It's been over a decade since I sold my heavily used TC-Renagade 50cal percussion.

I had planned at the time to buy either a 50 or 54cal Flintlock, thing was I was moving from NJ to PA...

Well otherthings intervened...

I'm finally seriously shopping for a flint gun for PA's flint only season and was looking at a Lyman Stalker... Anyone have any comments on these?

One of the local stores has a demo54cal on the shelf, I know that there's more stuff available for the 50's, but You gotta love the heavier hitting 54's... Hell I'd buy a 58cal flinter if they made one....

AllanD

Welcome to PA , What area are you now in ? Green mountain makes barrels for many flinters check them out .

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Originally posted by concho:
Welcome to PA , What area are you now in ? Green mountain makes barrels for many flinters check them out .

your "welcome to PA" is a bit belated, I've been here for 10 years

I don't need a barrel for a flinter I need a complete rifle.
I am not determined to be traditional enough
to buy a rifle with a curved brass buttplate though

I am enough of a traditionalist to actually use black powder...

AllanD

Yeah, the hooked buttplate is the least favorite feature of my Lyman Great Plains Rifle flintlock. I have a cousin who has been happy with his Lyman Trade Rifle but uses a caplock. It has a curved rather than hooked buttplate but I must admit the flat rubber pad on the Deerstalker looks much more comfortable than either.

Track of the wolf ! Go there for your rifle

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Originally posted by concho:
Track of the wolf ! Go there for your rifle

I'm not worried about where to go for a rifle
I'm concerned about my choice of rifle.

My local gunshop has a Lyman deerstalker
54caliber flintlock, and I basically wanted to know what everyone thinks of the Lyman.

When I started shopping for a flintlock
about a year ago the powerbelt bullets everyone swears by weren't available (or atleast I couldn't find them) in 54cal, but that ain't the case now, so since I'd rather have something bigger than a .50 anyway...

the powerbelts are now leagal in PA's flint season, so I see no reason to buy a specific slow twist patched-roundball rifle.

AllanD

I know a fellow in Wisconsin that has a couple of Lyman ML's. He says they are good shooters but also stress you read and understand the owners manual.

Al

I have a Lyman Great Plains Hunter percussion in .50 caliber and for the money I think it's very good rifle. They are available in .54 caliber flintlock, and they have a curved buttplate but that hasn't been a problem for me.

Well, thestore demo I'm looking at is the stalker model with the rubber recoil pad (which I intended to replace with a
grind to fit limbsaver).

Thing Is I see the Lymans trading from just below $600 to over $700 retail and this one can be mine for under $400

AD

Allan, those prices seem incredibly high!

96477 LYMAN GREAT PLAINS MUZZLELOAD: LON 54 CAL BP $175.00 BRASS FURNITURE,28in.,TANG PEEP SIGHT 93%
81509 LYMAN COUGAR MUZZLELOAD: LON 50 CAL BP $210.00 22, 97%
96843 LYMAN DEERSTALKER MUZZLELOAD: LON 50 CAL BP $225.00 LEFT HAND,24in.,ANIB 99%
88264 LYMAN TRADE RIFLE MUZZLELOAD: LON 50 CAL BP $250.00 ,UNFIRED IN BOX 95%

Those are used ones at KTP. Take a look on GunBroker and AuctionArms.

WOW... BTW I typed "retail" and meant MSRP which is usually 25% higher.

It never occoured to me to seach gunbroker.com.
And Black powder rifles can be shipped

But the only one found that was worty of note was:
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=44785872

and that's a percussion rifle... I suspect the ones you are pointing out are as well.

Show me a 54caliber Deerstalker flintlock and I'll get excited 54caliber flinters are about the hardest thing
to find "in-stock" let alone cheap....

I specifically NEED a flinter for the rules of the specific season I'm buying the rifle for.

and from what I've been able to find an unfired Lyman Deerstalker 54Flint for $350-ish is still a good deal.

AllanD

I bought my Lyman Great Plains 45 cap and ball as a kit from Wal-Mart. I believe the price was about $250.00 at the time a couple of years ago. If you can get an unfired Lyman Deerstalker 54Flint for $350-ish it sounds like a good deal to me.

That being said I shoot real well with my Lyman 3" 3shot groups at 100 yards off a bench rest. The only thing that I dont like about the Lyman is the trigger seems to be too heavy a pull. I have had better triggers on the TC Halken and CVA Halken I had, but the Lyman out shoots the others. It is a slow twist for round balls.

Good luck and let us know how well your flint lock shoots.

Allan, get excited. I sent you a private message.

You might not get it so here it is anyway:

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=000156033147

http://www.dnrsports.net/miva/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&S...ode=muzzleloaderslym

I got the PM and love it...

You just saved me $100
Which I will spend on a set of micrometer sights


AllanD