Bullet for Grizzly

21 February 2015, 18:43

smokepole paul

Bullet for Grizzly

What bullet would you use? I shoot a .50 caliber Omega.

Been looking at 250-340 grains in Barnes, Swift, Precision Dead Center and Hornady MonoFlex.

22 February 2015, 09:28

Idaho Ron

I would use my slightly hardened paper patched Lee 500 S&W bullet. It weighs 460 grains and is a tack driver. I pushed one through a elk shoulder and found the bullet in her hip. I have seen a lot of animals killed with that bullet and that is thee only one that I have found.

22 February 2015, 20:09

bearit

Not that I've ever gone grizzly hunting.....of the bullets you mention I'd trust the Swift or call Wideners reloading supply for some .451 Nosler 300gr.Partition PP...I believe they still have some.....bearit....

22 February 2015, 21:49

smokepole paul

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll check with them.

23 February 2015, 06:16

sharpsguy

You need to shoot a hardcast 500 or so grain bullet like a Maxi Ball or that hardcast 460 grain bullet for the 500 S&W. Learn to paper patch if you have to, but stay away from the lightweight jacketed cup and core bullets.

You want to be sure you can shoot all the way through both shoulders or from chest to bung hole end to end if need be. You won't reliably get there with a 350 grain bullet.

Last week we were hunting bison, and a friend shot a 3 year old bull in the chest with a 500 grain cast bullet pushed by 70 grains of 2f black powder using a 45-70 Sharps. The meat processor found the bullet in the bull's pelvis. It had penetrated 72 inches of bison front to rear by actual measurement. the 30-1 alloy bullet had lost 4 grains of weight.

25 February 2015, 03:47

bearit

smokepole paul....If you would decide to go with non cup and core bullets you can use whatever .458 bullet you have confidence in with a MMP orange sabot. My 25" barrel MZ gets about 2025fps. with a 300gr. over the max of Blackhorn 209....a fair amount of snot with a good bullet....regards ....bearit....

25 February 2015, 04:43

smokepole paul

quote:
Originally posted by bearit:
smokepole paul....If you would decide to go with non cup and core bullets you can use whatever .458 bullet you have confidence in with a MMP orange sabot. My 25" barrel MZ gets about 2025fps. with a 300gr. over the max of Blackhorn 209....a fair amount of snot with a good bullet....regards ....bearit....

Thanks bearit....This will help. That's honking velocity for a 300 gr. bullet. I'll give it a try.

01 March 2015, 15:49

waterrat

This was killed with a 525 penetrator is what the huner told me,I can't remember if it was 45 or 50 cal but the rifle was a Gonic? Short hunt and we never yakked too much. The bear was 8' just up the crik on Fog Lake.

01 March 2015, 15:53

waterrat

Wrong pic,,I'll try again.

No luck,,in photobucket hell for a bit.

05 March 2015, 02:56

bearit

smokepole paul....did Wideners come through with the partitions?....If you need some others to try .451 and .458 300gr. to 500gr. PM me....regards....bearit....

05 March 2015, 17:37

Seasons44

I would have no problem using this bullet for grizzly, it has proven it self many times already, best of both worlds, added trauma and penetration.

https://cuttingedgebullets.com...ction&key=MZL_50_250

05 March 2015, 18:13

smokepole paul

I haven't heard of this one. Thanks for posting it...I'll give them a try.

05 March 2015, 23:24

Seasons44

quote:
Originally posted by smokepole paul:
I haven't heard of this one. Thanks for posting it...I'll give them a try.

I have been extremely impressed with this bullet, accuracy is outstanding and terminals are second to none.

15 March 2015, 23:29

Biebs

Cutting Edge bullets are top shelf, from VLD target bullets to big African open-nose and solids.

18 May 2015, 20:55

L. David Keith

What Seasons44 said; Cutting Edge Bullets produce drastic trauma on big game. They proved themselves in Africa on all dangerous game and here is evidence of their effectiveness on medium game (deer). Bullet used was a .45 caliber CEB Raptor pushed by 100 grains of 777 powder (loose) at 120 yards. The photo below reveals what just one of the petals did to the off side shoulder blade.

This next photo shows damage caused underneath the front facing shoulder. Main body of the CEB exited the far side but was snapped back into the wound channel by the elastic membrane. Buck dropped in his tracks.

Good luck on your Griz hunt. LDK

20 May 2015, 06:18

bearit

It's starting to get too expensive to read this thread....Okay already I'll have to get a few Raptors to test at max velocity in my MZ rifles...Thank you smokepole paul for starting this thread.....bearit....

20 May 2015, 08:24

smokepole paul

quote:
Originally posted by bearit:
It's starting to get too expensive to read this thread....Okay already I'll have to get a few Raptors to test at max velocity in my MZ rifles...Thank you smokepole paul for starting this thread.....bearit....

No problem bearit. I've enjoyed the information that's been posted.

20 December 2015, 07:01

Atkinson

What you shoot grizzly with is important no doubt but having a second rifle or two extra would be my advise..I would feel more comfortable with at least two 54 calibers on hand. I visualize myself trying to load a muzzle loader with a bear doing 40 miles an hour to eat my lunch!.

31 January 2016, 01:01

Underclocked

I think you may wish you had another rifle other than an Omega when you to shooting 400+ grain bullets with heavy charges.

05 March 2016, 06:13

Atkinson

I would use the same bullet I used for elk some years ago, It was a very heavy hard cast simi wadcutter specifically for my rifle. The bullets were made for me by a close friend, now deceased, who was a Muzzle loading fanatic, and a hell of a gunsmith..I think they were 500 gr. bullets but wouldn't swear to it..I know they sure would lay a elk, moose or bear down in a hurry..He shot a lot of elk and Moose with a round patch ball in his 50 and 54, If he needed more he woul drag out the demon, a 64 cal. or his 4 bore double..I shot the 4 bore once and only once..I vow it was grizzly medicine.