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Green energy a myth?
09 February 2025, 21:39
Bill LeeperGreen energy a myth?
Pressurizing for flow is what hills are for. In the absence of a hill, a tower will suffice. Storing water at elevation is better than using a bank of batteries. A DC pump, powered by solar, will pump whenever the sun shines enough to run the pump at all. The tank is filled (stored energy)eventually. Once the tank is full, the overflow goes to irrigation. The DG pumps do not pump a great deal of volume, but a few gallons a minute adds up over 8 hours (we get a hell of a lot more sunlight than that in the summer). An alternative, in some areas, would be to use a windmill to produce DC power to run the pump. Gravity is pretty consistent when it comes to producing pressure. A surge tank to smooth things out isn't a bad addition. I have done this in the past (minus the solar), and it works fine. Not using batteries means you are not contributing to the horrific pollution their manufacture creates; so your system is much more "green". When I set up the prototype system, the construction was even quite environmentally friendly, since I did everything by hand. This time, I will make liberal use of diesel powered machinery, so not quite so green! Regards, Bill.
10 February 2025, 00:32
Aspen Hill AdventuresI'm also considering adding one of these.
https://www.bisonpumps.com/I have two standard, electric deep wells/pumps on my property. A Bison made pump on one would be a bonus and a lot less complicated than solar.
~Ann
10 February 2025, 00:51
M.ShyLooks great Ann
Never been lost, just confused here and there for month or two
10 February 2025, 06:57
Magine Enigam https://www.msn.com/en-us/weat...542f655627b2e2&ei=17Scientist debunks renewable energy claim with historical analogy: 'Light bulbs did in fact replace candles'
Story by Mike Taylor • 1d • 3 min read
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“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serpDegenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".
Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."
Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis
O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.
"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus
10 February 2025, 17:42
JTEXquote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/weat...542f655627b2e2&ei=17Scientist debunks renewable energy claim with historical analogy: 'Light bulbs did in fact replace candles'
Story by Mike Taylor • 1d • 3 min read
Light bulbs did in fact replace candles.....
Because they worked! They did not require any government subsidies to be effective.....
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10 February 2025, 17:49
Steve Bertramquote:
Originally posted by JTEX:
quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/weat...542f655627b2e2&ei=17Scientist debunks renewable energy claim with historical analogy: 'Light bulbs did in fact replace candles'
Story by Mike Taylor • 1d • 3 min read
Light bulbs did in fact replace candles.....
Because they worked! They did not require any government subsidies to be effective.....
.
Are you sure about that Jim?
How did America become electrified? Especially rural America? Through the help of the Federal Government.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...he%20United%20States.
10 February 2025, 19:34
TomPBig Brother is watching, this popped up on my screen this morning...
https://www.rpssolarpumps.com/...m_D_BwE&gad_source=5Looks familiar, like what I see in Wyoming antelope country...
TomP
Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right.
Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906)
10 February 2025, 19:46
Magine EnigamBut, Tom, does it come with any govt subsidy?

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“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serpDegenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".
Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."
Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis
O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.
"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus
10 February 2025, 20:00
Aspen Hill Adventuresquote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
But, Tom, does it come with any govt subsidy?
If a subsidy (taxpayer money) benefits the American people I approve. Just think if farmers were never provided with power grid. None of you would be eating.
DOGE says the feds have spent 50 million $ on luxury hotels and meals for illegals. WTF? Why aren't you libs complaining about that?
~Ann
11 February 2025, 00:00
Magine Enigamquote:
DOGE says the feds have spent 50 million $ on luxury hotels and meals for illegals. WTF? Why aren't you libs complaining about that?
Show me that it's true, then I'll complain.
And how do you know that libs, somewhere, aren't complaining?
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“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serpDegenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".
Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."
Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis
O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.
"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus
11 February 2025, 00:05
Magine Enigamquote:
If a subsidy (taxpayer money) benefits the American people I approve. Just think if farmers were never provided with power grid. None of you would be eating.
Another fact tidbit:
"President Dwight D. Eisenhower signed the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956, which established the United States Interstate Highway System. He is often called the "Father of the Interstate System".
Explanation
Eisenhower believed that the country needed safer and faster highways to support national defense and the growing number of cars on the road.
He was inspired by his experiences in the 1919 Transcontinental Convoy and his observations of German autobahns during World War II.
The act authorized $25 billion for construction between 1957 and 1969.
Eisenhower also approved the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1958, which increased authorizations for Interstate construction."
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There was probably some "waste" in there somewhere.

*************
“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serpDegenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".
Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."
Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis
O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.
"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus
11 February 2025, 00:40
shanksponyRenewable on a small scale is getting too the stage where the initial larger outlay is competitive against commercial ongoing power prices.
It doesn't worry me, Ill take a change in system if its cheaper and reliable.
11 February 2025, 01:25
ANTELOPEDUNDEEquote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
quote:
If a subsidy (taxpayer money) benefits the American people I approve. Just think if farmers were never provided with power grid. None of you would be eating.
Another fact tidbit:
"President Dwight D. Eisenhower signed the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956, which established the United States Interstate Highway System. He is often called the "Father of the Interstate System".
Explanation
Eisenhower believed that the country needed safer and faster highways to support national defense and the growing number of cars on the road.
He was inspired by his experiences in the 1919 Transcontinental Convoy and his observations of German autobahns during World War II.
The act authorized $25 billion for construction between 1957 and 1969.
Eisenhower also approved the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1958, which increased authorizations for Interstate construction."
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There was probably some "waste" in there somewhere.
He wanted a better way to move the military from one end of the country to the other.
Give me a home where the buffalo roam and I'll show you a house full of buffalo shit.
11 February 2025, 01:30
ANTELOPEDUNDEEquote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
quote:
DOGE says the feds have spent 50 million $ on luxury hotels and meals for illegals. WTF? Why aren't you libs complaining about that?
Show me that it's true, then I'll complain.
And how do you know that libs, somewhere, aren't complaining?
Maybe there was a shortage of flophouses and how do we know they paid full price? WE NEED DETAILS.
BTW does doofus j trump think that there are 750,000 brand spankin new houses and apartments in Jordan just waiting for Palestinians to move in? And where is he going to get the labor to rebuild Gaza?
You're right, we need details not bullshit.
Give me a home where the buffalo roam and I'll show you a house full of buffalo shit.
11 February 2025, 01:36
RolandtheHeadlessquote:
And where is he going to get the labor to rebuild Gaza?
Trump is planning to award one of his companies the contract. Probably not a fixed-price contract, either.
11 February 2025, 02:03
jeffeossoquote:
Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
quote:
And where is he going to get the labor to rebuild Gaza?
Trump is planning to award one of his companies the contract. Probably not a fixed-price contract, either.
Got any proof, or did you mis-speak ?
Oh you MEANT to say that you imagine, rather than a declarative statement of fact
Do better
11 February 2025, 04:10
TomPquote:
Originally posted by shankspony:
Renewable on a small scale is getting too the stage where the initial larger outlay is competitive against commercial ongoing power prices.
It doesn't worry me, Ill take a change in system if its cheaper and reliable.
A rancher I met in Wyoming paid about $100K for a power line from the road five miles to his hay field. It was worth it to him not to haul diesel for a well pump. That field isn't going to be irrigated from solar panels, too big. Solar works for stock tanks, vs a Jacobs windmill.
TomP
Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right.
Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906)