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…when they only tell us the science that serves the narrative that they are pushing? https://davidzweig.substack.co...ant-test-youve-never Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | ||
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Who is "they,' and why are you, a self-professed educator, on a mission to belittle science? | |||
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There was no science behind all the stupid things they brought for the Chink Virus. Stopped believing it soon after it all started and now facts are coming out to convince me I was right. | |||
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I believe that you have misunderstood my position. I am 100% pro science. I trust science. I trust scientists. The problem that I am trying to point out is that those who stand to profit by controlling the narrative are withholding science from us. That is what the article that I posted was about. Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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He is not belittling science…he is belittling the politics. “They” is the MSM and The Bureaucracy. Essentially the MSM is the mouthpiece of The Bureaucracy in present day USA. “The pen is mightier than the sword” and has replaced it as the tool for control. He (or “they” in this instance) who controls the narrative…controls the people. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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This is how science works when it comes to a populAtion’s medical issues, when time is of the essence. At the time that medical decisions about the efficacy of masks were being made the hospitals were overwhelmed and Americans were dropping like flies, there were a number of competing ideas. For example, some, even on this forum, were advocating the use of a horse medicine as a treatment. When the consequences are great in terms of human life, the most conservative approach is typically followed. It would be wise of us to do the same with global warming. What you’re missing Mr. Brown are several things, like the amount of time the scientists had to study the virus (after all it was new)and the human consequences if science followed a liberal policy was wrong and thinking that science when it comes to such matters operates in in a vacuum. | |||
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I'm always amazed when a grown-assed man claims he can't determine the truth, or the difference between fact and fiction, and keeps falling for BS. | |||
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Is that an attempt at writing a post without saying anything? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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I am not sure how you would be amazed as you serve as a living example. Some how you always find a way to arrive at the wrong conclusion. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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The decisions on the efficacy of masks was against commmon sense and known scientific knowledge, just as Lane and I tried to tell everyone at the very beginning. We did not tell everyone to not take precautions but hell the belief that masks were going to protect you was stupid | |||
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As is the outrage over being asked to wear a mask years after the fact. Makes about as much sense as continual harping about the "stolen" 2020 election. I try to look at the pandemic in a broad sense and compare our situation here in the States to that of other developed nations, we did not have it nearly as bad as many other countries. Were mistakes made? Of course they were. It was a very challenging public health situation involving a virus we had not dealt with. The Pandemic is now passed, I'm moving along in life, not rehashing things that annoyed me from several years ago. | |||
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skb, I am not outraged, I wore a mask when asked to but knew that it was of no use. Not looking at the history of decisions is foolish. | |||
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Elaborate. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sjy7pI1UdRw ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Lane, after your comment, I went back and read my post. Haha, I think there must have been a thought in that world salad I constructed. | |||
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The financial, political ,social and psychological effects are far from passed. "Moving on " is likening this sad episode in our nation's life to a dead animal in the roadway versus the long standing impacts that we as a nation will deal with for years to come. DuggaBoye-O NRA-Life Whittington-Life TSRA-Life DRSS DSC HSC SCI | |||
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You're correct, Dugga. Rightists certainly made their worldview clear during the so-deemed pandemic. And we are going to have to live with it for the foreseeable future. And now the spinning after the fact is beginning to become clearer, on many fronts. And it's scary effective. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Either that, or you figure out how to make the best of a bad situation and soldier on. That whole Lemonade out of Lemons thing. You cannot turn the clock back and change things so in my mind the best thing to do is proceed in the best way possible. I'm in a far better place than I was in 2019, I cannot speak for others. I see no need for the doom and gloom over the pandemic. Why? How is that helping in the least? | |||
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There was no good evidence that masking worked. Dr Fauci at first admitted such, but then revised his position, I suspect due to the chicken little “We gotta do SOMETHING!!!” crowd. There is a role for masking in bacterial infection as a part of surgery/procedures. The role of respirators and higher grade protection for viral infection is there. The unintended consequences of the pandemic response show that “just do SOMETHING!” Can and usually does have adverse consequences. The progressives strongly believe in just doing something about pretty much everything. The conservatives tend to resist any changes. Where I work, we just finally pulled the mandatory masking for employees. Strangely enough, the medical physicians had been unanimously telling admin it was useless for more than a year and a half. Some of us had been pointing to the studies done and the scientific evidence from the beginning… and saying either use N95 respirators or do nothing re masking. Of course, we were ignored. | |||
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Many here spent a lot of time belittling those of us who did not follow the herd over the 'rona. No, I don't have a PhD but I do have enough education in the right area that I knew the difference between the politics, the cash cow at hand and the real science. Much of what was called science was in fact, not. I think that caused a lot of lost lives and for sure damaged economies and school age children. I won't forget the mean spirited people here who participated in such horrid behavior. Really showed who and what you are. ~Ann   | |||
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could it possibly be that Anthony had no monetary interest in the test  DuggaBoye-O NRA-Life Whittington-Life TSRA-Life DRSS DSC HSC SCI | |||
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I think in a jaded manor, that there is nothing wrong with science, its trust in who is presenting the information too us. They are the ones wrecking our collective trust in science. | |||
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Bingo Shanks. I've said the same thing over and over. The science goes to a PR person, who tells the findings in what ever way they are told to say it. | |||
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If that's true, then take the "science" and send the exact same to the Heritage Foundation, Heartland Org, The members of the GOP science committee, and NASA, and CDC, then see what is promulgated by each. I think it's not what they are told to say. It's what they are compelled to say, for very different reasons. Do you think NASA or CDC, for example, are compelled to spin the science because of bias? ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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We would do well to recall to what extent we were lied to, by whom, and to what purpose. At the same time, it might be wise to look back on the last two presidential choices and try to avoid that again. Regards, Bill. | |||
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You idiots kill me. You attack the idea that a pandemic might be best prevented by keeping the folks with the virus from sneezing on other folks by using a mask. I get that the mask thing was a band-aid that might or might not have been effective. But, according to you idiots, the most important thing in a pandemic is to prevent you assholes from being told what to do by the government because it might infringe on your rights. Morons. Fuck you one and all. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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I cant speak for the US. But yeah In NZ it did not matter what the relevant authority told the govt. All information was presented by the govt and it is coming out that they discarded information that did not suit their policy and even despite being told so, broke the law to enforce their policy. | |||
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Yet, the goal of the scientists and the govt was caution on the side of the well being of citizens. The goal of the "individualists" was to protect their worldview, which was based in fomented distrust of govt control, and conspiracy theory thereof, be damned fellow citizens. It will be the same scenario next time. Each are compelled to do their duty, to serve fellow citizens, or to serve one's worldview bedamned fellow citizens. Extrapolate that!!!! ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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And factor in, follow the money. Funding, or threats of loosing it, will change the facts of the science reported. We know fauci went against cdc recommendation more than once. | |||
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I don't think it has been proven that Fauci did it for the money. As far as I know, that's just a claim. IMO, guys like Rand Paul, Mr. Asymto Matic, did harm. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Very true Ms. Ann. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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+1 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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+1 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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When are you ever going to figure out that you don’t have sense enough to get out of the rain!? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Who sends it to a PR person? All of it, or redacted? I think it's a direct "send" to NASA, for example. Are they PR persons? So, why bother to listen to doubt purveyors? Could bias affirmation be the answer? ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Kinda like Barr did with the Mueller Report? I get it. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/heal...fbc3d0c129016d&ei=21 Outgoing CDC director says the US is not prepared for the next pandemic ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Do you HAVE to discredit the science to abide your worldview? Why not just say I abide my worldview regardless of the science? ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...fbc3d0c129016d&ei=97 Why ‘lab-leakers’ are now turning their guns on the US government Story by Paul Nuki • 14h ago Even Mike Pompeo, the former US Secretary of State under whose watch reports of a lab leak first emerged, seemed reluctant to go down that route. Instead, he stayed true to the title of his recent book, Never Give An Inch and took to Twitter to declare: “The declassified Covid origins report confirms what we knew from the beginning: the only logical explanation is that the virus came from the Wuhan lab”. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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