This is totally on Biden and the Democrats and their vitriol They have done everything they can to destroy Trump and they have proven that the only thing that will stop him from trying to save this country is to kill him. They tried. They failed.

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Originally posted by lavaca:
This is totally on Biden and the Democrats and their vitriol They have done everything they can to destroy Trump and they have proven that the only thing that will stop him from trying to save this country is to kill him. They tried. They failed.

“Save the country “??

I like your sense of humor!

If you were China, Iran, Russia or Hamas, who would you rather be the leader of your enemy?

Biden, who might wander off into traffic like a toddler or someone who gets shot in the ear and gives a fist up with blood on his face?

After the debate, commentators said our enemies were watching, which is why Democrats are running from Biden. They were watching today as well and the contrast between Biden and Trump couldn't be more stark.

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Originally posted by lavaca:
If you were China, Iran, Russia or Hamas, who would you rather be the leader of your enemy?

Biden, who might wander off into traffic like a toddler or someone who gets shot in the ear and gives a fist up with blood on his face?

After the debate, commentators said our enemies were watching, which is why Democrats are running from Biden. They were watching today as well and the contrast between Biden and Trump couldn't be more stark.

Sadly, very sadly, your enemies don’t have to do anything.

YOU are your worst enemy.

YOU got yourselves into a situation where hardly anyone trusts you.

Non stop adventurism.

Non stop starting wars.

Non stop sticking your nose in other peoples affairs.

What has that got you?

You are supposed to set an example for others.

Right now, with your current political situation, which YOU have brought upon yourself, make you no different to Zimbabwe, Nigeria, Iran or China!

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by lavaca:
If you were China, Iran, Russia or Hamas, who would you rather be the leader of your enemy?

Biden, who might wander off into traffic like a toddler or someone who gets shot in the ear and gives a fist up with blood on his face?

After the debate, commentators said our enemies were watching, which is why Democrats are running from Biden. They were watching today as well and the contrast between Biden and Trump couldn't be more stark.

Sadly, very sadly, your enemies don’t have to do anything.

YOU are your worst enemy.

YOU got yourselves into a situation where hardly anyone trusts you.

Non stop adventurism.

Non stop starting wars.

Non stop sticking your nose in other peoples affairs.

What has that got you?

You are supposed to set an example for others.

Right now, with your current political situation, which YOU have brought upon yourself, make you no different to Zimbabwe, Nigeria, Iran or China!

Bla, bla, bla,......

The left and democrats have made us look like Zimbabwe and nigeria!

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by lavaca:
If you were China, Iran, Russia or Hamas, who would you rather be the leader of your enemy?

Biden, who might wander off into traffic like a toddler or someone who gets shot in the ear and gives a fist up with blood on his face?

After the debate, commentators said our enemies were watching, which is why Democrats are running from Biden. They were watching today as well and the contrast between Biden and Trump couldn't be more stark.

Sadly, very sadly, your enemies don’t have to do anything.

YOU are your worst enemy.

YOU got yourselves into a situation where hardly anyone trusts you.

Non stop adventurism.

Non stop starting wars.

Non stop sticking your nose in other peoples affairs.

What has that got you?

You are supposed to set an example for others.

Right now, with your current political situation, which YOU have brought upon yourself, make you no different to Zimbabwe, Nigeria, Iran or China!

Bla, bla, bla,......

The left and democrats have made us look like Zimbabwe and nigeria!

Oh the Right did a fine job of the same on J the 6th 2021. Neither side is without blame in our current political mess.

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by lavaca:
If you were China, Iran, Russia or Hamas, who would you rather be the leader of your enemy?

Biden, who might wander off into traffic like a toddler or someone who gets shot in the ear and gives a fist up with blood on his face?

After the debate, commentators said our enemies were watching, which is why Democrats are running from Biden. They were watching today as well and the contrast between Biden and Trump couldn't be more stark.

Sadly, very sadly, your enemies don’t have to do anything.

YOU are your worst enemy.

YOU got yourselves into a situation where hardly anyone trusts you.

Non stop adventurism.

Non stop starting wars.

Non stop sticking your nose in other peoples affairs.

What has that got you?

You are supposed to set an example for others.

Right now, with your current political situation, which YOU have brought upon yourself, make you no different to Zimbabwe, Nigeria, Iran or China!

Bla, bla, bla,......

The left and democrats have made us look like Zimbabwe and nigeria!

Where were YOU when they did this?

Last stupid criminal adventure was by the GOP!

Bush 2 was lead by Cheney!

I don’t remember they were democrats!

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Oh the Right did a fine job of the same on J the 6th 2021. Neither side is without blame in our current political mess.

Comparing the skirmish of 6th June to what happened yesterday?

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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Oh the Right did a fine job of the same on J the 6th 2021. Neither side is without blame in our current political mess.

Comparing the skirmish of 6th June to what happened yesterday?

I sure am, both politically motivated violence, both an embarrassment.

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by fulvio:

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Oh the Right did a fine job of the same on J the 6th 2021. Neither side is without blame in our current political mess.

Comparing the skirmish of 6th June to what happened yesterday?

I sure am, both politically motivated violence, both an embarrassment.

Exactly!

But, those with their heads up Trump’s arse don’t like the truth!

Donald Trump is a flawed human being just like I am. But, he loves traditional America and Americans. His policies are generally quite good for America. The man is a fighter and no quitter. Few men have guts and stamina to hold up to what the bureaucracy/establishment/left has thrown at him. And yes, our international enemies fear the man.

I join my friend David in standing by him.

I do not believe Trump loves the country. His handling of his election defeat and attempt to keep lower proved that.

Trying to kill him at at a campaign rally and killing others is not justified and his an attack on us all.

We have witnessed an attempted assassination and the murder of at least one citizen.

Can we leave this nonsense to the side for at least a day? Obviously, the answer to that is not.

He is not just flawed his actions post election are inexcusable. The response is debate and voting. The answer is not and can not be violence.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
I do not believe Trump loves the country. His handling of his election defeat and attempt to keep lower proved that.

Trying to kill him at at a campaign rally and killing others is not justified and his an attack on us all.

We have witnessed an attempted assassination and the murder of at least one citizen.

Can we leave this nonsense to the side for at least a day? Obviously, the answer to that is not.

He is not just flawed his actions post election are inexcusable. The response is debate and voting. The answer is not and can not be violence.

+1

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...3d35e7aa33f766&ei=36

Trump shooting souvenir T-shirts already on sale after assassination attempt
Story by Holly Bancroft • 49m • 2 min read

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Can we leave this nonsense to the side for at least a day? Obviously, the answer to that is not.

Absolutely not. There is too much at stake. President Trump is no quitter and neither am I. I recently read a good essay on how when all else fails you in life…grit will carry you through and how through the course of history it was the grittiest people who were the most successful. President Trump has grit.

You will not find any violence or recommendation for violence in any of my posts.

I do not share your views of what is good for our country.

I admire Trump’s grit, commitment, and vision for America.

Did he really say this? To me worse than the assassin's bullets.

Joe Biden on 7.8.2024: "We’re done talking about the debate, it’s time to put Trump in a bullseye."

Those are pretty ugly words and not presidential. I also see reports that more SS detail for trump had been requested numerous times and was denied. Wonder if there will be any consequences to follow?

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
Did he really say this? To me worse than the assassin's bullets.

Joe Biden on 7.8.2024: "We’re done talking about the debate, it’s time to put Trump in a bullseye."

Those are pretty ugly words and not presidential. I also see reports that more SS detail for trump had been requested numerous times and was denied. Wonder if there will be any consequences to follow?

Actually, there have a lot more violent threats from GOP members and supporters.

You are being typical of the voters.

Everything wrong is done by the other side!

Here's an article that IMO puts things into the proper perspective:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...f15bf95a5034d&ei=156

The Atlantic

The Gunman and the Would-Be Dictator
Opinion by David Frum • 1h • 6 min read

(excerpt)

Fascist movements are secular religions. Like all religions, they offer martyrs as their proof of truth. The Mussolini movement in Italy built imposing monuments to its fallen comrades. The Trump movement now improves on that: The leader himself will be the martyr in chief, his own blood the basis for his bid for power and vengeance.

The 2024 election was already shaping up as a symbolic contest between an elderly and weakening liberalism too frail and uncertain to protect itself and an authoritarian, reactionary movement ready to burst every barrier and trash every institution. To date, Trump has led only a minority of U.S. voters, but that minority’s passion and audacity have offset what it lacks in numbers. After the shooting, Trump and his backers hope to use the iconography of a bloody ear and face, raised fist, and call to “Fight!” to summon waverers to their cause of installing Trump as an anti-constitutional ruler, exempted from ordinary law by his allies on the Supreme Court.

Other societies have backslid to authoritarianism because of some extraordinary crisis: economic depression, hyperinflation, military defeat, civil strife. In 2024, U.S. troops are nowhere at war. The American economy is booming, providing spectacular and widely shared prosperity. A brief spasm of mild post-pandemic inflation has been overcome. Indicators of social health have abruptly turned positive since Trump left office after years of deterioration during his term. Crime and fatal drug overdoses are declining in 2024; marriages and births are rising. Even the country’s problems indirectly confirm the country’s success: Migrants are crossing the border in the hundreds of thousands, because they know, even if Americans don’t, that the U.S. job market is among the hottest on Earth.

Yet despite all of this success, Americans are considering a form of self-harm that in other countries has typically followed the darkest national failures: letting the author of a failed coup d’état return to office to try again.

One reason this self-harm is nearing consummation is that American society is poorly prepared to understand and respond to radical challenges, once those challenges gain a certain mass.

For nearly a century, “radical” in U.S. politics has usually meant “fringe”: Communists, Ku Kluxers, Black Panthers, Branch Davidians, Islamist jihadists. Radicals could be marginalized by the weight of the great American consensus that stretches from social democrats to business conservatives. Sometimes, a Joe McCarthy or a George Wallace would throw a scare into that mighty consensus, but in the past such challengers rarely formed stable coalitions with accepted stakeholders in society. Never gaining an enduring grip on the institutions of state, they flared up and burned out.

Trump is different.

His abuses have been ratified by powerful constituencies. He has conquered and colonized one of the two major parties. He has defeated—or is on the way to defeating—every impeachment and prosecution to hold him to account for his frauds and crimes. He has assembled a mass following that is larger, more permanent, and more national in reach than any previous American demagogue. He has dominated the scene for nine years already, and he and his supporters hope they can use yesterday’s appalling event to extend the Trump era to the end of his life and beyond.

The American political and social system cannot treat such a person as an alien. It inevitably accommodates and naturalizes him. His counselors, even the thugs and felons, join the point-counterpoint dialogue at the summit of the American elite.

Trump is the three-time nominee of the Republican Party; it’s awkward and strange to treat him as an insurrectionist against the American state—though that’s what Trump was and is.

The despicable shooting at Trump, which also caused death and injury to others, now secures his undeserved position as a partner in the protective rituals of the democracy he despises. The appropriate expressions of dismay and condemnation from every prominent voice in American life have the additional effect of habituating Americans to Trump’s legitimacy. In the face of such an outrage, the familiar and proper practice is to stress unity, to proclaim that Americans have more things in common than that divide them.

Those soothing words, true in the past, are less true now.

Nobody seems to have language to say: We abhor, reject, repudiate, and punish all political violence, even as we maintain that Trump remains himself a promoter of such violence, a subverter of American institutions, and the very opposite of everything decent and patriotic in American life.

The Republican National Convention, which opens this week, will welcome to its stage apologists for Vladimir Putin’s Russia and its aggression against U.S. allies. Trump’s own infatuation with Russia and other dictatorships has not dimmed even slightly with age or experience. Yet all of these urgent and necessary truths must now be subdued to the ritual invocation of “thoughts and prayers” for someone who never gave a thought or uttered a prayer for any of the victims of his own many incitements to bloodshed. The president who used his office to champion the rights of dangerous people to own military-type weapons says he was grazed by a bullet from one such assault rifle.

(there's more)

Repug GOPers are going to spin/twist all this to enhance their narratives, all the while righteously and farcically lamenting the polarization in the country.

Basically, they are saying believe like us, support our movement, then division will be resolved.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...8e12787aa4766c&ei=62

Republicans Try to Blame Democrats, the Media, CRT, DEI for Shooting
Story by Peter Wade • 2h • 4 min read

Not long after the attempt to assassinate former president Donald Trump, Republicans began to blame the Democrats; the media; diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) efforts; and critical race theory as responsible for the shooting.

"The greatest threat to our nation right now is that we are horribly divided," Johnson told Jake Tapper on CNN's State of the Union Sunday. "But again, in general, we share the same goals. Why are we so divided? Well, there are political figures, there are political groups. I would argue that's what identity politics is about. That's what critical race theory is about. So there are people who are purposely trying to divide us for political advantage. Resist. Don't let them get away with it, and again, start talking to each other. That's part of the problem."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...3d35e7aa33f766&ei=94

Trump’s Allies Quickly Respond To Shooting With Conspiracy Theories, Attacks On Political Enemies
Story by Hunter Walker • 8h • 4 min read

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:
Donald Trump is a flawed human being just like I am. But, he loves traditional America and Americans. His policies are generally quite good for America. The man is a fighter and no quitter. Few men have guts and stamina to hold up to what the bureaucracy/establishment/left has thrown at him. And yes, our international enemies fear the man.

I join my friend David in standing by him.

Putin, Kim and Xi fear him? Really? Putin loves him. After all, he believes Putin over his own CIA…

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:
Donald Trump is a flawed human being just like I am. But, he loves traditional America and Americans. His policies are generally quite good for America. The man is a fighter and no quitter. Few men have guts and stamina to hold up to what the bureaucracy/establishment/left has thrown at him. And yes, our international enemies fear the man.

I join my friend David in standing by him.

Well written Doc!

Biden needed four people to pick him up from his bicycle wreck! Trump needs six secret service agents to hold him back after being shot!!!!!

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Can we leave this nonsense to the side for at least a day? Obviously, the answer to that is not.

Absolutely not. There is too much at stake. President Trump is no quitter and neither am I. I recently read a good essay on how when all else fails you in life…grit will carry you through and how through the course of history it was the grittiest people who were the most successful. President Trump has grit.

You will not find any violence or recommendation for violence in any of my posts.

I do not share your views of what is good for our country.

I admire Trump’s grit, commitment, and vision for America.

Grit, guts, commitment..... All of the above!


Comatose Joe needs to understand commitment,,,,,, commitment to assisted living!

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Originally posted by jdollar:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Donald Trump is a flawed human being just like I am. But, he loves traditional America and Americans. His policies are generally quite good for America. The man is a fighter and no quitter. Few men have guts and stamina to hold up to what the bureaucracy/establishment/left has thrown at him. And yes, our international enemies fear the man.

I join my friend David in standing by him.

Putin, Kim and Xi fear him? Really? Putin loves him. After all, he believes Putin over his own CIA…

Funny how Putin didn't invade when trump was President.....

Your spiel is old and weak.......

Mangina, mangina, mangina......without cut and paste you would have nothing..... Poor old woman!

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Originally posted by lavaca:
This is totally on Biden and the Democrats and their vitriol They have done everything they can to destroy Trump and they have proven that the only thing that will stop him from trying to save this country is to kill him. They tried. They failed.

Right, a registered republican who belonged to a gun rights group.

And was out in the open with his rifle for 25 min.

If this guy was an assassin Trump would be dead instead, he's just an old demented convicted felon asshole with 1/2 an ear.

For quite a while, Trump with all his "grit" has made a lot of mileage with his supporters by playing the victim. I expect now will be no different.

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Originally posted by jdollar:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:
Donald Trump is a flawed human being just like I am. But, he loves traditional America and Americans. His policies are generally quite good for America. The man is a fighter and no quitter. Few men have guts and stamina to hold up to what the bureaucracy/establishment/left has thrown at him. And yes, our international enemies fear the man.

I join my friend David in standing by him.

Putin, Kim and Xi fear him? Really? Putin loves him. After all, he believes Putin over his own CIA…

Jerry,
I used to think you had some sense. Lately, I have come to believe you stayed in Cali to long. Maybe you should have stayed out there with your people???

And maybe you should take a good long look at your flawed individual.To recap, a narcissist, egomaniac, sexual abuser, philanderer, convicted felon with 2-3 more cases yet to come to trial. Top secret documents in the bathroom of a golf resort. Do you really thing Putin, Kim and Xi fear him?

Let's take a look at who injects violence into American politics:

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Link

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He didn't look like a victim yesterday.

Yes, he has been persecuted unjustifiably by Democrat politicians, but he has prevailed, and will prevail.

Even a very biased judge in NYC has realized that the ridiculous conviction in NY cannot stand. Do you think I'm wrong -- why was the sentencing initially scheduled for right before the RNC? Why did the judge postpone it after the Supreme Court's ruling on presidential immunity? The judge may be biased, but he's not stupid. He knows that conviction cannot stand.

This is a demonstration of Trump's character. It couldn't be scripted. Again, it's in stark contrast to the Democrats.

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Originally posted by jdollar:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:
Donald Trump is a flawed human being just like I am. But, he loves traditional America and Americans. His policies are generally quite good for America. The man is a fighter and no quitter. Few men have guts and stamina to hold up to what the bureaucracy/establishment/left has thrown at him. And yes, our international enemies fear the man.

I join my friend David in standing by him.

Putin, Kim and Xi fear him? Really? Putin loves him. After all, he believes Putin over his own CIA…

Putin has had a field day under the Biden administration.
Can you explain why this is the reality?

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Originally posted by jdollar:
And maybe you should take a good long look at your flawed individual.

I have stated he is flawed. I am flawed as well. You might be the last perfect individual out there Jerry.

To recap, a narcissist, egomaniac, sexual abuser, philanderer,

Like I have said…few people are as pure as you.

convicted felon with 2-3 more cases yet to come to trial.

We’ll see how all the lawfare comes out in the wash.

Top secret documents in the bathroom of a golf resort.

The stuff he had…he was allowed/supposed to know. It was precedent for former Presidents to keep docs. They shouldn’t and I hope it stops but what he did was the norm. This administration just went off the reservation.

Do you really thing Putin, Kim and Xi fear him?

100%! Putin did nada under his watch…NADA!!!

Move back to Cali and quit pretending.

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Originally posted by Jefffive:
Let's take a look at who injects violence into American politics:

Link

Link

Link

You are a moron. From Kathy Griffin to little Tommy Crooks we can see all we need to know.

Little jefive is nothing more than a communist agitator who will one day burn in the hellfires if eternal damnation.

Ignore him and all the other agitprop

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Originally posted by jdollar:
And maybe you should take a good long look at your flawed individual.To recap, a narcissist, egomaniac, sexual abuser, philanderer, convicted felon with 2-3 more cases yet to come to trial. Top secret documents in the bathroom of a golf resort. Do you really thing Putin, Kim and Xi fear him?

Good post Jerry, I would add to it a reminder that Trump also tried to steal the last election.

Putin and Xi are doing everything they can to put Trump back in office, just like the last two election cycles. They do not fear Trump but eagerly await his potential return.

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Putin and Xi are doing everything they can to put Trump back in office, just like the last two election cycles.

There is really zero credible evidence of that.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Putin and Xi are doing everything they can to put Trump back in office, just like the last two election cycles.

There is really zero credible evidence of that.

Possibly true if you happen to live in a state of denial.

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Putin and Xi are doing everything they can to put Trump back in office, just like the last two election cycles.

There is really zero credible evidence of that.

Possibly true if you happen to live in a state of denial.

Denial of what? There is nothing credible to deny. Are you speaking of reports of some group of Russian trolls are posting BS on social media?

off to an early morning business meeting. I'll see what I can dig up when time permits.

Easy enough to Google though.

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Originally posted by Huvius:

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Originally posted by jdollar:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Donald Trump is a flawed human being just like I am. But, he loves traditional America and Americans. His policies are generally quite good for America. The man is a fighter and no quitter. Few men have guts and stamina to hold up to what the bureaucracy/establishment/left has thrown at him. And yes, our international enemies fear the man.

I join my friend David in standing by him.

Putin, Kim and Xi fear him? Really? Putin loves him. After all, he believes Putin over his own CIA…

Putin has had a field day under the Biden administration.
Can you explain why this is the reality?

Really?

What sort of a field day has he had? His army is mired down in a quagmire of a war with no end in sight thanks to US support of Ukraine...driven by Biden. Of course, if it was up to trump, we'd stop providing the Ukrainians the means to defend themselves from Putin's illegal invasion and we could just tell the Ukrainians to surrender.

Field day, my ass. Putin has trump wrapped around his little finger.