I say otherwise.

When Biden failed to reach out to Laken’s parents when she was murdered, called her Lincoln in the SOTU, then made a public apology for calling the animal that bashed her skull an “illegal” in the SOTU…

…he sealed Georgia for Trump this go-round.

The things you think are important!

Wow, those are important policy concerns. I bet people all over America will vote with those three issues foremost in mind.

quote:

…he sealed Georgia for Trump

Georgia has long been sealed for Trump.

MTG is from Georgia. It's hard to imagine she was actually elected. But there she is.

quote:

called her Lincoln in the SOTU

I want to see any politician name, starting with MTG, 1 student from the Uvalde massacre.

More important was he having her photo and having negotiated through the Senate a real tool to do something about.

The tool your ilk and President Trump killed.

The common sense consensus is both Biden and Trump are unfit for office!

The MAGA arsehole, Cadet Bone Spur, is unfit for anything except an Orange Suit!

quote:

Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

quote:

…he sealed Georgia for Trump

Georgia has long been sealed for Trump.

MTG is from Georgia. It's hard to imagine she was actually elected. But there she is.

The new face of the GOP:

quote:

Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
The things you think are important!

Wow, those are important policy concerns. I bet people all over America will vote with those three issues foremost in mind.

It is not a national election. It is the amalgamation of 50 state elections. Georgia is an important one and it will have a major impact there.

For your election edification.

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:
I say otherwise.

When Biden failed to reach out to Laken’s parents when she was murdered, called her Lincoln in the SOTU, then made a public apology for calling the animal that bashed her skull an “illegal” in the SOTU…

…he sealed Georgia for Trump this go-round.

If the POTUS needs to reach out to the parents of every murder victim you better elect a small army of people to the office as it will sadly be a full time job for all of them.

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
The things you think are important!

Wow, those are important policy concerns. I bet people all over America will vote with those three issues foremost in mind.

It is not a national election. It is the amalgamation of 50 state elections. Georgia is an important one and it will have a major impact there.

For your election edification.

No, it is a national election with federal laws that apply across all 50 states. It is the only national election we have.

quote:

Originally posted by LHeym500:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
The things you think are important!

Wow, those are important policy concerns. I bet people all over America will vote with those three issues foremost in mind.

It is not a national election. It is the amalgamation of 50 state elections. Georgia is an important one and it will have a major impact there.

For your election edification.

No, it is a national election with federal laws that apply across all 50 states. It is the only national election we have.

It is a National Election with federal laws. But it is not a national election or it would be won by popular vote.

But you knew what I meant.

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by LHeym500:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
The things you think are important!

Wow, those are important policy concerns. I bet people all over America will vote with those three issues foremost in mind.

It is not a national election. It is the amalgamation of 50 state elections. Georgia is an important one and it will have a major impact there.

For your election edification.

No, it is a national election with federal laws that apply across all 50 states. It is the only national election we have.

It is a National Election with federal laws. But it is not a national election or it would be won by popular vote.

But you knew what I meant.

No, all 50 states and each citizen votes. The most direct route to the EC is through the popular vote.

The election is national. The EC is a limitation on pure democracy. Make no mistake, we are a democracy. We have very few limitations on being a pure democracy now. With the S. Ct., allowing states to bind the electors to the popular vote, direct vote of Senators, universal suffrage limited only by majority age, laws designed to protect access to vote. Those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

All apply to make the Presidency our only national election.

You better take stock of the fact Rs cannot and do not win the popular vote.

Cows and grass of that big red map do not count.

quote:

Originally posted by LHeym500:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by LHeym500:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
The things you think are important!

Wow, those are important policy concerns. I bet people all over America will vote with those three issues foremost in mind.

It is not a national election. It is the amalgamation of 50 state elections. Georgia is an important one and it will have a major impact there.

For your election edification.

No, it is a national election with federal laws that apply across all 50 states. It is the only national election we have.

It is a National Election with federal laws. But it is not a national election or it would be won by popular vote.

But you knew what I meant.

No, all 50 states and each citizen votes. The most direct route to the EC is through the popular vote.

The election is national. The EC is a limitation on pure democracy. Make no mistake, we are a democracy. We have very few limitations on being a pure democracy now. With the S. Ct., allowing states to bind the electors to the popular vote, direct vote of Senators, universal suffrage limited only by majority age, laws designed to protect access to vote. Those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

All apply to make the Presidency our only national election.

You better take stock of the fact Rs cannot and do not win the popular vote.

Cows and grass of that big red map do not count.

The way to win the Presidency is to get 270 electoral votes.

As Karl Rove is fond of saying: “It’s not a national election…it is 50 state elections.”

And because of the Biden’s idiocy over Laken and her murderer…GA’s electoral votes are in the bag.

Carry on with your nonsensical rant…no one is listening.

Speaking of nonsensical rants, this thread certainly fits the bill.

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by LHeym500:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by LHeym500:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
The things you think are important!

Wow, those are important policy concerns. I bet people all over America will vote with those three issues foremost in mind.

It is not a national election. It is the amalgamation of 50 state elections. Georgia is an important one and it will have a major impact there.

For your election edification.

No, it is a national election with federal laws that apply across all 50 states. It is the only national election we have.

It is a National Election with federal laws. But it is not a national election or it would be won by popular vote.

But you knew what I meant.

No, all 50 states and each citizen votes. The most direct route to the EC is through the popular vote.

The election is national. The EC is a limitation on pure democracy. Make no mistake, we are a democracy. We have very few limitations on being a pure democracy now. With the S. Ct., allowing states to bind the electors to the popular vote, direct vote of Senators, universal suffrage limited only by majority age, laws designed to protect access to vote. Those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

All apply to make the Presidency our only national election.

You better take stock of the fact Rs cannot and do not win the popular vote.

Cows and grass of that big red map do not count.

The way to win the Presidency is to get 270 electoral votes.

As Karl Rove is fond of saying: “It’s not a national election…it is 50 state elections.”

And because of the Biden’s idiocy over Laken and her murderer…GA’s electoral votes are in the bag.

Carry on with your nonsensical rant…no one is listening.

Explaining to you why you are wrong with facts that you cannot attack is never a rant.

The most direct path to the EC is to win the popular vote. A sea of foes and grass in red counties do not count.

Kind of.

If Trump wins every state but CA, MA, NY, and MN by 1 vote each, and Biden wins those 4 by 100%, Biden wins the popular vote by a landslide, but loses the election.

The votes are cast indirectly… you really are voting state by state for electors.

Maybe Biden’s gaffe solidified GA for Trump… although it seemed GA was in Trump’s favor before he did that.

Honestly I don’t think the SOTU changed anything. The folks who hate Trump could care less, and the folks who hate Biden are just using the gaffe to justify their opinion.

Here I think it’s rather interesting. It’s very early, but the traditional GOP voters are very disenchanted with Trump, and a lot of the traditional democrats are very upset with Biden.

What I’ve been saying about voting for anyone else is actually becoming a strong statement here, although MN is always an odd duck… hell we elected Jesse “the body” Ventura as governor.

quote:

Originally posted by LHeym500:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by LHeym500:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by LHeym500:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
The things you think are important!

Wow, those are important policy concerns. I bet people all over America will vote with those three issues foremost in mind.

It is not a national election. It is the amalgamation of 50 state elections. Georgia is an important one and it will have a major impact there.

For your election edification.

No, it is a national election with federal laws that apply across all 50 states. It is the only national election we have.

It is a National Election with federal laws. But it is not a national election or it would be won by popular vote.

But you knew what I meant.

No, all 50 states and each citizen votes. The most direct route to the EC is through the popular vote.

The election is national. The EC is a limitation on pure democracy. Make no mistake, we are a democracy. We have very few limitations on being a pure democracy now. With the S. Ct., allowing states to bind the electors to the popular vote, direct vote of Senators, universal suffrage limited only by majority age, laws designed to protect access to vote. Those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

All apply to make the Presidency our only national election.

You better take stock of the fact Rs cannot and do not win the popular vote.

Cows and grass of that big red map do not count.

The way to win the Presidency is to get 270 electoral votes.

As Karl Rove is fond of saying: “It’s not a national election…it is 50 state elections.”

And because of the Biden’s idiocy over Laken and her murderer…GA’s electoral votes are in the bag.

Carry on with your nonsensical rant…no one is listening.

Explaining to you why you are wrong with facts that you cannot attack is never a rant.

The most direct path to the EC is to win the popular vote. A sea of foes and grass in red counties do not count.

quote:

Originally posted by crbutler:
Kind of.

If Trump wins every state but CA, MA, NY, and MN by 1 vote each, and Biden wins those 4 by 100%, Biden wins the popular vote by a landslide, but loses the election.

There is no such thing as a "national popular vote" - there are the various state and territory votes, which generally state which way the state is going to vote.

It's not called for in the constitution, and is a happenstance not an effective fact //

and the libs will come along crying about it -- show me in the constitution where there is a national popular election for ANY federal office ... just one .. i'll be here, doing something kinda productive while we wait

Wrong.

There is a national popular vote. It gets tabulated every year.

It just has no legal standing as to who becomes president.

quote:

Originally posted by jeffeosso:

quote:

Originally posted by crbutler:
Kind of.

If Trump wins every state but CA, MA, NY, and MN by 1 vote each, and Biden wins those 4 by 100%, Biden wins the popular vote by a landslide, but loses the election.

There is no such thing as a "national popular vote" - there are the various state and territory votes, which generally state which way the state is going to vote.

It's not called for in the constitution, and is a happenstance not an effective fact //

and the libs will come along crying about it -- show me in the constitution where there is a national popular election for ANY federal office ... just one .. i'll be here, doing something kinda productive while we wait

quote:

Originally posted by crbutler:
Kind of.

If Trump wins every state but CA, MA, NY, and MN by 1 vote each, and Biden wins those 4 by 100%, Biden wins the popular vote by a landslide, but loses the election.

The votes are cast indirectly… you really are voting state by state for electors.

Maybe Biden’s gaffe solidified GA for Trump… although it seemed GA was in Trump’s favor before he did that.

Honestly I don’t think the SOTU changed anything. The folks who hate Trump could care less, and the folks who hate Biden are just using the gaffe to justify their opinion.

Here I think it’s rather interesting. It’s very early, but the traditional GOP voters are very disenchanted with Trump, and a lot of the traditional democrats are very upset with Biden.

What I’ve been saying about voting for anyone else is actually becoming a strong statement here, although MN is always an odd duck… hell we elected Jesse “the body” Ventura as governor.

quote:

Originally posted by LHeym500:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by LHeym500:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by LHeym500:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
The things you think are important!

Wow, those are important policy concerns. I bet people all over America will vote with those three issues foremost in mind.

It is not a national election. It is the amalgamation of 50 state elections. Georgia is an important one and it will have a major impact there.

For your election edification.

No, it is a national election with federal laws that apply across all 50 states. It is the only national election we have.

It is a National Election with federal laws. But it is not a national election or it would be won by popular vote.

But you knew what I meant.

No, all 50 states and each citizen votes. The most direct route to the EC is through the popular vote.

The election is national. The EC is a limitation on pure democracy. Make no mistake, we are a democracy. We have very few limitations on being a pure democracy now. With the S. Ct., allowing states to bind the electors to the popular vote, direct vote of Senators, universal suffrage limited only by majority age, laws designed to protect access to vote. Those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

All apply to make the Presidency our only national election.

You better take stock of the fact Rs cannot and do not win the popular vote.

Cows and grass of that big red map do not count.

The way to win the Presidency is to get 270 electoral votes.

As Karl Rove is fond of saying: “It’s not a national election…it is 50 state elections.”

And because of the Biden’s idiocy over Laken and her murderer…GA’s electoral votes are in the bag.

Carry on with your nonsensical rant…no one is listening.

Explaining to you why you are wrong with facts that you cannot attack is never a rant.

The most direct path to the EC is to win the popular vote. A sea of foes and grass in red counties do not count.

That would be true if only those who either love or hate Trump were voting, but there's a large number of voters who are somewhere between, and for those voters the "Biden is senile" narrative died with the SOTU.

And the as. Ct., has allowed states to bind those electors to the will of the popular vote in states.

And thus it is the amalgamation of 50 state votes in the accumulation of electors. The popular vote of the overall nation is totally meaningless except for the whiners.

quote:

Originally posted by crbutler:
Wrong.

There is a national popular vote. It gets tabulated every year.

It just has no legal standing as to who becomes president.

quote:

Originally posted by jeffeosso:

quote:

Originally posted by crbutler:
Kind of.

If Trump wins every state but CA, MA, NY, and MN by 1 vote each, and Biden wins those 4 by 100%, Biden wins the popular vote by a landslide, but loses the election.

There is no such thing as a "national popular vote" - there are the various state and territory votes, which generally state which way the state is going to vote.

It's not called for in the constitution, and is a happenstance not an effective fact //

and the libs will come along crying about it -- show me in the constitution where there is a national popular election for ANY federal office ... just one .. i'll be here, doing something kinda productive while we wait

terms, Doc -- please show me, in the constitution, where there is an actual legal thing called "the national popular election" . there isn't .. there is a tally of votes, which has no standing and no power, just like adding up who wore brown shoes vs black shoes -- it doesn't mean a thing.

Umm. Really?

Near as I heard the SOTU address was pretty much not watched by anyone.

In particular the non politics watching crowd that is the majority of voters... you know, the folks that only worry about politics after labor day every 4th year?

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:

quote:

Originally posted by crbutler:
Kind of.

If Trump wins every state but CA, MA, NY, and MN by 1 vote each, and Biden wins those 4 by 100%, Biden wins the popular vote by a landslide, but loses the election.

The votes are cast indirectly… you really are voting state by state for electors.

Maybe Biden’s gaffe solidified GA for Trump… although it seemed GA was in Trump’s favor before he did that.

Honestly I don’t think the SOTU changed anything. The folks who hate Trump could care less, and the folks who hate Biden are just using the gaffe to justify their opinion.

Here I think it’s rather interesting. It’s very early, but the traditional GOP voters are very disenchanted with Trump, and a lot of the traditional democrats are very upset with Biden.

What I’ve been saying about voting for anyone else is actually becoming a strong statement here, although MN is always an odd duck… hell we elected Jesse “the body” Ventura as governor.

quote:

Originally posted by LHeym500:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by LHeym500:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by LHeym500:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
The things you think are important!

Wow, those are important policy concerns. I bet people all over America will vote with those three issues foremost in mind.

It is not a national election. It is the amalgamation of 50 state elections. Georgia is an important one and it will have a major impact there.

For your election edification.

No, it is a national election with federal laws that apply across all 50 states. It is the only national election we have.

It is a National Election with federal laws. But it is not a national election or it would be won by popular vote.

But you knew what I meant.

No, all 50 states and each citizen votes. The most direct route to the EC is through the popular vote.

The election is national. The EC is a limitation on pure democracy. Make no mistake, we are a democracy. We have very few limitations on being a pure democracy now. With the S. Ct., allowing states to bind the electors to the popular vote, direct vote of Senators, universal suffrage limited only by majority age, laws designed to protect access to vote. Those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

All apply to make the Presidency our only national election.

You better take stock of the fact Rs cannot and do not win the popular vote.

Cows and grass of that big red map do not count.

The way to win the Presidency is to get 270 electoral votes.

As Karl Rove is fond of saying: “It’s not a national election…it is 50 state elections.”

And because of the Biden’s idiocy over Laken and her murderer…GA’s electoral votes are in the bag.

Carry on with your nonsensical rant…no one is listening.

Explaining to you why you are wrong with facts that you cannot attack is never a rant.

The most direct path to the EC is to win the popular vote. A sea of foes and grass in red counties do not count.

That would be true if only those who either love or hate Trump were voting, but there's a large number of voters who are somewhere between, and for those voters the "Biden is senile" narrative died with the SOTU.

There is election day.

Each state tallies up the votes.

The media talks about total vote tallies, and a certain subset of folks get agitated about it.

We are more or less agreeing, but face it, everyone talks about it come the following day. While its unofficial and meaningless to who becomes the president, I think the average person knows exactly what is meant by it.

Heck, you are not really voting for a person, but rather you are voting for a slate of electors since the electors are actually who meet to elect the president.

quote:

Originally posted by jeffeosso:

quote:

Originally posted by crbutler:
Wrong.

There is a national popular vote. It gets tabulated every year.

It just has no legal standing as to who becomes president.

quote:

Originally posted by jeffeosso:

quote:

Originally posted by crbutler:
Kind of.

If Trump wins every state but CA, MA, NY, and MN by 1 vote each, and Biden wins those 4 by 100%, Biden wins the popular vote by a landslide, but loses the election.

There is no such thing as a "national popular vote" - there are the various state and territory votes, which generally state which way the state is going to vote.

It's not called for in the constitution, and is a happenstance not an effective fact //

and the libs will come along crying about it -- show me in the constitution where there is a national popular election for ANY federal office ... just one .. i'll be here, doing something kinda productive while we wait

terms, Doc -- please show me, in the constitution, where there is an actual legal thing called "the national popular election" . there isn't .. there is a tally of votes, which has no standing and no power, just like adding up who wore brown shoes vs black shoes -- it doesn't mean a thing.

quote:

Originally posted by crbutler:
Umm. Really?

Near as I heard the SOTU address was pretty much not watched by anyone.

In particular the non politics watching crowd that is the majority of voters... you know, the folks that only worry about politics after labor day every 4th year?

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:

quote:

Originally posted by crbutler:
Kind of.

If Trump wins every state but CA, MA, NY, and MN by 1 vote each, and Biden wins those 4 by 100%, Biden wins the popular vote by a landslide, but loses the election.

The votes are cast indirectly… you really are voting state by state for electors.

Maybe Biden’s gaffe solidified GA for Trump… although it seemed GA was in Trump’s favor before he did that.

Honestly I don’t think the SOTU changed anything. The folks who hate Trump could care less, and the folks who hate Biden are just using the gaffe to justify their opinion.

Here I think it’s rather interesting. It’s very early, but the traditional GOP voters are very disenchanted with Trump, and a lot of the traditional democrats are very upset with Biden.

What I’ve been saying about voting for anyone else is actually becoming a strong statement here, although MN is always an odd duck… hell we elected Jesse “the body” Ventura as governor.

quote:

Originally posted by LHeym500:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by LHeym500:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by LHeym500:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
The things you think are important!

Wow, those are important policy concerns. I bet people all over America will vote with those three issues foremost in mind.

It is not a national election. It is the amalgamation of 50 state elections. Georgia is an important one and it will have a major impact there.

For your election edification.

No, it is a national election with federal laws that apply across all 50 states. It is the only national election we have.

It is a National Election with federal laws. But it is not a national election or it would be won by popular vote.

But you knew what I meant.

No, all 50 states and each citizen votes. The most direct route to the EC is through the popular vote.

The election is national. The EC is a limitation on pure democracy. Make no mistake, we are a democracy. We have very few limitations on being a pure democracy now. With the S. Ct., allowing states to bind the electors to the popular vote, direct vote of Senators, universal suffrage limited only by majority age, laws designed to protect access to vote. Those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

All apply to make the Presidency our only national election.

You better take stock of the fact Rs cannot and do not win the popular vote.

Cows and grass of that big red map do not count.

The way to win the Presidency is to get 270 electoral votes.

As Karl Rove is fond of saying: “It’s not a national election…it is 50 state elections.”

And because of the Biden’s idiocy over Laken and her murderer…GA’s electoral votes are in the bag.

Carry on with your nonsensical rant…no one is listening.

Explaining to you why you are wrong with facts that you cannot attack is never a rant.

The most direct path to the EC is to win the popular vote. A sea of foes and grass in red counties do not count.

That would be true if only those who either love or hate Trump were voting, but there's a large number of voters who are somewhere between, and for those voters the "Biden is senile" narrative died with the SOTU.

quote:

NEW YORK – March 8, 2024 – An estimated 32.2 million people watched President Joe Biden’s 2024 State of the Union address on Thursday, March 7, according to Nielsen.

Link

I find this disheartening,

5% of viewers were aged 18-34.

While I normally agree with Lane, I don't think Biden survived the SOTU. He failed miserably. Normally, the incumbent gets a big bump after the SOTU. Biden didn't. No move in the polls whatsoever. So I guess that could be described as "surviving" the SOTU, that's about all he did. He should have got a huge bump. He clearly turned it into a political speech rather than an actual SOTU, and he failed miserably. "Survived" is the best he could call it.

We are a Republic, Thank God, and not a pure democracy, and Biden can't carry the majority of the states. So while the Dims will clearly carry some of the most populous states, such as California and New York, maybe we just need to kick those states out. They'd be happier and the rest of the country would be happier.

quote:

Originally posted by LHeym500:
I find this disheartening,

5% of viewers were aged 18-34.

That is because the remainder of them
were on Tik-Tok
getting their daily brainwashing

quote:

Originally posted by LHeym500:
I find this disheartening,

5% of viewers were aged 18-34.

Missed the SOTU. Glad I was in Argentina killing doves instead!

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:
I say otherwise.

When Biden failed to reach out to Laken’s parents when she was murdered, called her Lincoln in the SOTU, then made a public apology for calling the animal that bashed her skull an “illegal” in the SOTU…

…he sealed Georgia for Trump this go-round.

Speaking of Georgia....let's remember why we're talking about it:

Transcript: Highlights of Trump’s Call With the Georgia
Secretary of State

Background: In a leaked telephone conversation, President Trump pressured
Secretary of State Brad Raf ensperger of Georgia, a fellow Republican and the state’s
top elections of icial, on Jan. 2 to overturn the election results in his state, reciting
debunked claims of election fraud.

You can listen to excerpts from the recording, which was obtained by The New York
Times, in this seven-minute audio clip, and follow along in the transcript below. You
can find the full transcript and recording here.

Directions: As you listen, highlight, underline or take notes about what you notice
and wonder about the conversation. Which lines stand out to you? What questions do
you have? If you’re in a classroom context, share at least one thing you noticed and
one thing you wondered with the class or a partner. Then, read the featured article.
_______
Excerpt #1
TRUMP: We have, we have, we have won this election in Georgia based on all of this.
And there’s, there’s nothing wrong with saying that, Brad. You know, I mean, having
the, having a correct — the people of Georgia are angry and these numbers are going to
be repeated on Monday night, along with others that we’re going to have by that time,
which are much more substantial even. And the people of Georgia are angry, the
people of the country are angry. And there’s nothing wrong with saying that, you
know, um, that you’ve recalculated. And there’s nothing wrong with saying that, you
know, um, that you’ve recalculated because the 2,236 and absentee ballots, I mean,
they’re all exact numbers that were, were done by accounting firms, law firms, etc. And
even if you cut ’em in half, cut ’em in half and cut ’em in half again, it’s more votes
than we need.

RAFFENSPERGER: Well, Mr. President, the challenge that you have is the data you
have is wrong. We, we talked to the congressmen, and they were surprised. But they —
I guess, there’s a person named Mr. Brainard that came to these meetings and
presented data and he said that there was dead people, I believe it was upward of
5,000. The actual number were two. Two. Two people that were dead that voted. And
so, that’s wrong, that was two.
_______
Excerpt #2
TRUMP: Now, do you think it’s possible that they shredded ballots in Fulton County?
Because that’s what the rumor is. And also that Dominion took out machines. That
Dominion is really moving fast to get rid of their, uh, machinery.
Do you know anything about that? Because that’s illegal, right?
RYAN GERMANY, lawyer for Georgia secretary of state’s office: This is Ryan
Germany. No, Dominion has not moved any machinery out of Fulton County.
TRUMP: But have they moved the inner parts of the machines and replaced them
with other parts?
GERMANY: No.
TRUMP: Are you sure, Ryan?
GERMANY: I’m sure. I’m sure, Mr. President.
_______
Excerpt #3
RAFFENSPERGER: Mr. President, the problem you have with social media, they —
people can say anything.
TRUMP: Oh, this isn’t social media. This is Trump media. It’s not social media. It’s
really not, it’s not social media. I don’t care about social media. I couldn’t care less.
Social media is Big Tech. Big Tech is on your side, you know. I don’t even know why
you have a side, because you should want to have an accurate election. And you’re a
Republican.
RAFFENSPERGER: We believe that we do have an accurate election.
TRUMP: No, no, you don’t. No, no, you don’t. You don’t have, you don’t have. Not
even close. You’re off by hundreds of thousands of votes.
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Excerpt #4
TRUMP: ... because, you know what they did and you’re not reporting it. That’s a
criminal — that’s a criminal offense. And you can’t let that happen. That’s a big risk to
you and to Ryan, your lawyer. And that’s a big risk. But they are shredding ballots, in
my opinion, based on what I’ve heard. And they are removing machinery and they’re
moving it as fast as they can, both of which are criminal finds. And you can’t let it
happen and you are letting it happen. You know, I mean, I’m notifying you that you’re
letting it happen. So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes,
which is one more than we have …
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Excerpt #5
TRUMP: So tell me, Brad, what are we going to do? We won the election, and it’s not
fair to take it away from us like this. And it’s going to be very costly in many ways. And
I think you have to say that you’re going to re-examine it, and you can re-examine it,
but re-examine it with people that want to find answers, not people that don’t want to
find answers. For instance, I’m hearing Ryan, and he’s probably, I’m sure a great
lawyer and everything. But he’s making statements about those ballots that he doesn’t
know. But he’s making them with such — he did make them with surety. But now I
think he’s less sure, because the answer is they all went to Biden, and that alone wins
us the election by a lot. You know, so.
RAFFENSPERGER: Mr. President, you have people that submit information, and
we have our people that submit information. And then it comes before the court, and
the court then has to make a determination. We have to stand by our numbers. We
believe our numbers are right.
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Excerpt #6
Trump: Well, under law, you’re not allowed to give faulty election results. OK? You’re
not allowed to do that, and that’s what you’ve done. This is a faulty election result. And
honestly, this should go very fast, you should meet tomorrow, because you have a big
election coming up, and because of what you’ve done to the president, you know the
people of Georgia know that this was a scam. And because of what you’ve done to the
president, a lot of people aren’t going out to vote. And a lot of Republicans are going to
vote negative, because they hate what you did to the president. OK, they hate it. And
they’re going to vote, and you would be respected if, really respected if this thing could
be straightened out before the election. You have a big election coming up on Tuesday.
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Excerpt #7
Trump: … I mean, look, that’s, you’d have to be a child to think anything other than
that. Just a child.
MITCHELL: How many ballots, Mr. Secretary, are you saying were processed then?
RAFFENSPERGER: We had G.B.I. thoroughly investigate that.
RYAN GERMANY, chief lawyer, Georgia secretary of state’s office: We had
our — this is Ryan Germany. We had our law enforcement officers talk to everyone
who was, who was there after that event came to light. G.B.I. was with them as well as
F.B.I. agents.
TRUMP: Well, there’s no way they could — then they’re incompetent. They’re either
dishonest or incompetent, OK?
MITCHELL: Well, what did they find?
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Excerpt #8
Trump: I would like you to, for the attorneys of, I’d like you to perhaps speak with
Ryan, ideally tomorrow, because I think we should come to a resolution of this before
the election, otherwise you’re going to have, you’re going to have people just not
voting. They don’t want to vote, they hate the state. They hate the governor, and they
hate the secretary of state. I will tell you that right now. And the only people that like
you are people that will never vote for you, you know that brand, right? They like you,
you know, they like you, they can’t believe what they found. They want more people
like you. So look, can you get together tomorrow, and Brad, we just want the truth. It’s
simple.

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