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Read the last paragraph of your quote, he most certainly does feel he knows what is best for married people, he said so. These people need to mind their own damn business. I don't want his religion or input on my personal life, I can make those choices myself. | |||
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Has nothing to do with religion steve.....just moral responsibility.... Something you leftists don't understand.... As you display constantly. Curiosity thing.... God only plays when you can damn him? What's with that steve? When a real man ( notice is said real man) creates a life he is responsible to turn that life into a productive citizen, not a burden to society...... A small life lesson to you steve, that's easier done in a nuclear family. Once you create that life, if you are a real man, then sometimes doing something that takes guts and grit are more important than what "feels good". Steve, real men understand and embrace that responsibility. But you need to actually be a real man......it takes efforts and guts, some would sat grit..... | |||
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Vance in his book called his Grandfather a “violent drunk.” Vance also claims that his Grandmother set his drunk Grandfather onnfire. Vance then used his grandfather as an example of making the marriage work when asked his position on divorce. Speaking to Pacifica Christian High School in 2021, he claimed that divorce inflicts terrible harm on children and that it would be better for people in unhappy marriages to stay together, even if said marriages are “violent.” Vance told the audience: “My grandparents had an incredibly chaotic marriage in a lot of ways. But they never got divorced. They were together to the end, till death do us part—that was a really important thing to my grandmother and my grandfather. That was clearly not true by the ’70s or ’80s. And I think that probably, I was personally, and a lot the kids in my community who grew up in my generation, personally suffered from the fact that a lot of moms and dads saw marriage as a basic contract, right? Like any other business deal, once it becomes no longer good for one of the parties or both of the parties, you just dissolve it and go on to a new business relationship. But that recognition that marriage was sacred I think was a really powerful thing that held a lot of families together. And when it disappeared, unfortunately, I think a lot of kids suffered.” So, young women make sure you stay with those violent drunks like Vance’s grandfather. Vance also voted against vitro fertilization protection. How dare couples use science to have a child. | |||
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Jim...choke on a satchel of Richards you self righteous ass. There are no responsibilities that I have which I have not met in this world. Take your fake morals and shove them where the sun don't shine. | |||
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The last paragraph of my post was not from Vance. It was from a study published by the N.I.H. You may know them as the National Institutes of Health. | |||
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Steve, you're floundering, and that leftist vitriol dude, even saint Joe said we need to stop that.......stop digging dude....I bet you have a black friend too.....put down the shovel! | |||
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Jim...go pound sand you prick. | |||
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"The best scientific literature to date suggests that, with the exception of parents faced with unresolvable marital violence, children fare better when parents work at maintaining the marriage. Consequently, society should make every effort to support healthy marriages and to discourage married couples from divorcing." This was the paragraph I was referring to Ben, he quite clearly states he knows best. | |||
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Ummm... That is the quote from the N.I.H. | |||
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How about posting a link so I can read it in context? You sure can't tell two different people are speaking from what you posted. | |||
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The truth shall set you are steve. Quit digging, you have a chance, its not too late..... | |||
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What would a MAGAt like you know about truth? Pound sand Jim....that is my truth you prick. | |||
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If NIH ( govt agency) said it its good advice, if an eeeeeviiiiilll republican said it...its antithetical to the well being of mankind..... | |||
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4240051/ | |||
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You guys...  OOPS!!! I gues you will next argue about who has the biggest hammer!!!  | |||
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Your post on page 1 was very confusing, I did not realize you were only quoting Vance in the first paragraph then switched to the NIH without saying so. Now I follow your post. I still don't think the Government should make divorce harder, or get involved in IVF or any of the other bat shit crazy stuff the social conservatives are doing. Jesus in public schools etc.... Why does JD or the NIH no better than I do if I should stay married or not? I do not need someone else making my choices for me. | |||
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I guess data and statistics play a major role. I agree with you on so much - mostly that the Federal Government should not have an interest or a role in how I and my family live our lives. I believe that the involvement of the Fed. Govt. should be hardly noticeable on a day to day basis. But, that said, the truth is the truth and properly compiled and conveyed statistics are what they are like it or not. Curiously, would your opinion have been different knowing it wasn't a JD Vance quote and maybe from someone you politically support? Would your disdain have been so marked? | |||
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I did answer steve. I guess just not in terms you could understand. My response says: Trump has some good qualities to emulate and some bad qualities to stay the hell away from — much like the majority of men he will meet in life. Hope you are able to comprehend now.  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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You did not answer, you dodged the question because you don't want to give an answer. Let me help since your tongue is tied. Trump is a lying, cheating, whore chasing fraud who is no kind of role model for your boy. That wasn't so hard was it? | |||
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My own father said "you can learn in a company of three - good things to emulate and bad things to avoid" Maybe he didn't coin that himself but it's true - as long as you are the one in the middle!! | |||
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Hmmmmm..... Will he put down the shovel? Tic toc tic toc..... | |||
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The issue is the same, my disdain for others inserting themselves into someone's private life runs quite consistent. I think Vance is a total asshole with flexible morals, as long as it might advance his career, he is good with it. Not my cup of tea but to answer your question, yes my disdain would be the same for anyone feeling they know better than a married couple if divorce is correct for them. | |||
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Don't you have an appointment with a dick? | |||
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To use Vance’s own words when asked folks are better off staying committed to “violent” and chaotic marriages. The kids worse off when such marriages end. A lot of folks on here do not want Vance’s views of divorce to become law. | |||
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The homo thing again steve???? You seem to have a fixation???? | |||
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More JD Vance quotes on trump: “I think most people are not very ideological, and Trump, while I find him loathsome, touches a legitimate nerve. You should read David Frum’s piece in the Atlantic on the Republican revolt. But I’m not surprised by Trump’s rise, and I think the entire party has only itself to blame,” Vance messaged McLaurin. “We are, whether we like it or not, the party of lower-income, lower-education white people, and I have been saying for a long time that we need to offer those people SOMETHING (and hell, maybe even expand our appeal to working-class black people in the process) or a demagogue would. We are now at that point. Trump is the fruit of the party’s collective neglect.” Feeding the lower-education white folks.  https://abovethelaw.com/2024/0...is-political-career/ -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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https://youtu.be/4pYSjxZfB6A?si=newT3PUo7LLdnRMU The Snake - We know a NeverTrumper when we see one, Donald. He may have shed his skin but the bite is coming. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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I mean, it's one thing to pick a VP who you've had some legit political disagreements with....it's another to pick one who has described you as "loathsome" and Hitler. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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