trump goes after General Milley

30 January 2025, 19:39

450 Fuller

General Milley should be left alone in his retirement.
No officer is perfect, and he has to follow orders from above-however distasteful.

I stick to my comment that Harry Truman would quickly adjust some errors of the last administration,
along with those responsible. He had character.

We live in a democratic republic, and enjoy the right to disagree amicably. Divisiveness beyond
that is neither healthy for the individual nor our band of brothers.

To paraphrase Patrick Henry: I may disagree with you, but I will defend to the death your right to express your opinion.

Those who have difficulty with that underpining of our Constitution skipped civics class.
Then in a non sequitur, redeem yourselves by telling me the parties responsible for the assassination of John F. Kennedy.

30 January 2025, 20:01

Magine Enigam

quote:
non sequitur

Wow. You just expanded my vocabulary. And you messed up a favorite saying - "word-salad".

"Non sequitur Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster
The meaning of NON SEQUITUR is an inference that does not follow from the premises; specifically : a fallacy resulting from a simple conversion of a universal affirmative proposition or from the transposition of a condition and its consequent."

quote:
redeem yourselves

How about we maintain our redemption by not asserting stuff we don't know as fact.

Or at least make opinion distinct from fact, and/or how the two may connect.

For example, however, IMO, you redeemed yourself with the above post compared to the other one. It's rare to see that from AHs, so apparently you aren't an AH after all.

Another positive clue:

quote:
We live in a democratic republic

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“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
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Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

“When the rich rob the poor, it's called business ... When the poor fight back, it's called violence.” - Mark Twain

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus

30 January 2025, 23:28

ledvm

quote:
Originally posted by 450 Fuller:
General Milley should be left alone in his retirement.
No officer is perfect, and he has to follow orders from above-however distasteful.

I stick to my comment that Harry Truman would quickly adjust some errors of the last administration,
along with those responsible. He had character.

We live in a democratic republic, and enjoy the right to disagree amicably. Divisiveness beyond
that is neither healthy for the individual nor our band of brothers.

To paraphrase Patrick Henry: I may disagree with you, but I will defend to the death your right to express your opinion.

Those who have difficulty with that underpining of our Constitution skipped civics class.
Then in a non sequitur, redeem yourselves by telling me the parties responsible for the assassination of John F. Kennedy.

I think a slight demotion and loss of security clearance, and loss of security detail sends exactly the right message.

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J. Lane Easter, DVM

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No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.

31 January 2025, 00:06

jeffeosso

As i recall, the difference in retirement pay between 4 star and 3 star is less than 1k per month

31 January 2025, 00:33

LHeym500

quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
quote:
Originally posted by 450 Fuller:
General Milley should be left alone in his retirement.
No officer is perfect, and he has to follow orders from above-however distasteful.

I stick to my comment that Harry Truman would quickly adjust some errors of the last administration,
along with those responsible. He had character.

We live in a democratic republic, and enjoy the right to disagree amicably. Divisiveness beyond
that is neither healthy for the individual nor our band of brothers.

To paraphrase Patrick Henry: I may disagree with you, but I will defend to the death your right to express your opinion.

Those who have difficulty with that underpining of our Constitution skipped civics class.
Then in a non sequitur, redeem yourselves by telling me the parties responsible for the assassination of John F. Kennedy.

I think a slight demotion and loss of security clearance, and loss of security detail sends exactly the right message.

Your position is position on politics. You have provided no law nor regulation broken.

You only care that Gen Milley opposed Trump’s attempt to overthrow the election.

Thst is why you are wrong.

01 February 2025, 00:23

Baker458

I care that Milley was part of an operation to "woke" the US military and weaken it from within, whether from misguided ideas or bad intent.

His actions should be investigated (he now cannot plead the 5th). If he was following orders when he called his Chinese counterpart, then whoever gave that order should be investigated.

Officers above a certain rank are expected to refuse an order that is not legit.

01 February 2025, 03:33

Magine Enigam

quote:
Officers above a certain rank are expected to refuse an order that is not legit.

That's interesting. Where is that written? And who is to decide legit?

And another question that I would like to understand is who decided that "woke" is inherently weak?

01 February 2025, 21:10

LHeym500

All soldiers are suppose to not follow illegal, unconstitutional orders.

The point here is there is no law nor regulation that these two can point to that Gen. Milley broke in following the Sec of Defense’s order.

They are only mad because Gen. Milley opposed President Trump’s Jan 6 scheme.

President Trump has plenty of time to fire Gen. Milley for any reason or no reason.

02 February 2025, 00:40

LongDistanceOperator

quote:
Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
Milley undermined the chain of command and likely committed treason with his call to China telling them he would preemptively warn them of any attack.

He should be made an example of. I don’t want him in jail or anything like you idiots are always espousing but a demotion sounds about right and I damn sure don’t want to spend a red cent on any security for him.

Horseshit.

I guess you'll be OK with the next Dem administration pulling trump's SS detail? Asinine, childish, stupid behavior from trump.

I hope they do. According to trumps “logic”, there’s good reason for it. “He’s a dumb person” and he’s wealthy. He can afford his own security.

02 February 2025, 01:38

Magine Enigam

quote:
They are only mad because Gen. Milley opposed President Trump’s Jan 6 scheme.

He also called Trump a fascist.

02 February 2025, 02:00

ledvm

quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
quote:
They are only mad because Gen. Milley opposed President Trump’s Jan 6 scheme.

He also called Trump a fascist.

Proof he is a moron.

02 February 2025, 02:29

TomP

quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
quote:
Officers above a certain rank are expected to refuse an order that is not legit.

That's interesting. Where is that written? And who is to decide legit?

And another question that I would like to understand is who decided that "woke" is inherently weak?

This was decided decades ago at Nuremberg.
"Befehl ist Behfel" isn't good enough.

02 February 2025, 05:13

4WD

Mark Milley is the poster boy for the weak liberal WOKE Democrats.
He needs to be exposed for what he did to our military. Continue to embarrass him and bring disgrace to him .

02 February 2025, 05:51

Scott King

quote:
Originally posted by 4WD:
Mark Milley is the poster boy for the weak liberal WOKE Democrats.
He needs to be exposed for what he did to our military. Continue to embarrass him and bring disgrace to him .

You ain't good enough to shine his shoes.

This right here is the glory of the internet my friends, anonymous snivelers trying to stick their pointy chest out in front on real men.

03 February 2025, 22:02

4WD

quote:
Originally posted by Scott King:
quote:
Originally posted by 4WD:
Mark Milley is the poster boy for the weak liberal WOKE Democrats.
He needs to be exposed for what he did to our military. Continue to embarrass him and bring disgrace to him .

You ain't good enough to shine his shoes.

This right here is the glory of the internet my friends, anonymous snivelers trying to stick their pointy chest out in front on real men.

Scott King

You are out of touch.

Milley was once a American fighting man.
He got into the soft WOKE ultra liberal lifestyle and corruption. Just look and see what a big fat slob he is today. He can’t even get out of his office chair without breathing heavy. He’s just another has been, who decided to take the easy way with the WOKE Soros agenda and the easy corrupt money . He has done more to promote the WOKES in the military than any other single person. Scotty King sounds like you prefer TRANSGENDER in our military. Wow, at least we now know who you really are.