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This is surprising and sad part of US history.

He seems to have been a remarkable man.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry...er_email_o63gt2jcad4


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Readjuster_Party

The Readjuster Party was a bi-racial state-level political party formed in Virginia across party lines in the late 1870s during the turbulent period following the Reconstruction era that sought to reduce outstanding debt owed by the state.[2] Readjusters aspired "to break the power of wealth and established privilege"[3] among the planter elite of whites in the state and to promote public education. The party's program attracted support among both white people and African-Americans.

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The reconstruction era was terrible. The struggles and attitudes and determined ideology to disenfranchise blacks politically and culturally lasted way beyond the civil war.

Lincoln had the right ideas, but that was all fucked when Johnson succeeded him.

In an odd turn, the Readjuster Party is closely akin to what the Democrat party is today. And the Republican party is NOT the party of Lincoln. The shift happened when the southern democrats (racists and conservative) migrated to the Republican party in the 60's & 70's. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Southern-strategy

Some attitudes never change through the generations.


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You do like to forget history!

Remember your past murdering the original inhabitants?

Slaughtering their bison to starve them?

What is forging some silly so called hero?? rotflmo


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Regarding history.

If an individual today traced his/her ancestry back to presumably a beginning, what are the numbers of couples surviving through the years leading directly to you?

Let's presume 300,000 years ago for a nice round number that some scientists say was the beginning of homo sapiens. Presume a generation is 25 years. 300,000 divided by 25 = 12,000 individuals as great grandparents. Divide that by 2 to get couples, man and woman = 6,000 couples.

So, what are the odds?

Homo sapiens
https://humanorigins.si.edu/ev...species/homo-sapiens

Throughout history there have been wars, famines, conquests, genocides, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...in_the_United_States

History of Native Americans in the United States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Ukraine

History of Ukraine

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The history of Ukraine is especially interesting, because it seems to me that you support the recent Russian invasion of Ukraine.


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Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal.



 
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Regarding history.

If an individual today traced his/her ancestry back to presumably a beginning, what are the numbers of couples surviving through the years leading directly to you?

Let's presume 300,000 years ago for a nice round number that some scientists say was the beginning of homo sapiens. Presume a generation is 25 years. 300,000 divided by 25 = 12,000 individuals as great grandparents. Divide that by 2 to get couples, man and woman = 6,000 couples.

So, what are the odds?

Homo sapiens
https://humanorigins.si.edu/ev...species/homo-sapiens

Throughout history there have been wars, famines, conquests, genocides, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...in_the_United_States

History of Native Americans in the United States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Ukraine

History of Ukraine

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The history of Ukraine is especially interesting, because it seems to me that you support the recent Russian invasion of Ukraine.


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Our mom was Eve.

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I read a while back that about 70,000 years ago, humanity hit a genetic bottleneck. Something reduced our population to perhaps a thousand humans. Predation? Disease? Some larger, tougher primate?

We were a species threatened with extinction. All of us are lucky we're here.

And geneticists have identified a single woman they call "Eve," who's the mother of all humanity; every person alive can trace their genes to her.
 
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Originally posted by Saeed:
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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
Regarding history.

If an individual today traced his/her ancestry back to presumably a beginning, what are the numbers of couples surviving through the years leading directly to you?

Let's presume 300,000 years ago for a nice round number that some scientists say was the beginning of homo sapiens. Presume a generation is 25 years. 300,000 divided by 25 = 12,000 individuals as great grandparents. Divide that by 2 to get couples, man and woman = 6,000 couples.

So, what are the odds?

Homo sapiens
https://humanorigins.si.edu/ev...species/homo-sapiens

Throughout history there have been wars, famines, conquests, genocides, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...in_the_United_States

History of Native Americans in the United States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Ukraine

History of Ukraine

==========================================================

The history of Ukraine is especially interesting, because it seems to me that you support the recent Russian invasion of Ukraine.


Our dad was Adam
Our mom was Eve.

End of story! jumping


And Jesus was the only begotten son of Adam and Eve’s direct creator. She how religious assertions are not argument winners.
 
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The history of Ukraine is especially interesting, because it seems to me that you support the recent Russian invasion of Ukraine.



I see that Saeed didn't correct me on my statement above.

Note that I didn't state it as a fact, only my observation.

IMO, the Russian Invasion of Ukraine is the greatest atrocity, and significance in recent times, and Putin should be held personally responsible in the worst possible way. There is no way to rationalize it as good.


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Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal.



 
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Originally posted by LHeym500:
She how religious assertions are not argument winners.


I assume you either meant "see" or "shows"

But this will age like milk


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But this will age like milk


Please explain why religious assertions are argument winners, or wieners, your choice?


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Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal.



 
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Originally posted by LHeym500:
She how religious assertions are not argument winners.


I assume you either meant "see" or "shows"

But this will age like milk


See.

A practitioner of Islam asserting a tenant of the big 3 religions as truth for the matter asserted. Only to have a major religious tenant presented as truth for the matter asserted that the practitioner of Islam does not believe in as truth.
 
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Amazing how people are so willing to judge people by today's standards, whatever they might be since we can't even agree on that, but not view it through the prism of what was the situation of the time. I'm not just talking about the times surrounding the Civil War, but go back. I'm not just talking about the North American slave trade, which was deplorable, but go back. The Masai k consider
 
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The original point was about the mentioned General as a visionary leader AT THAT TIME IN HISTORY.

Nothing to do with current values and mind sets.

The article also refers to Johnson undoing the good work of Lincoln. It also discussed the historical issues around Reconstruction.

Not much has changed at the fundamental level.


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Yes Naki, and my posts were intended to reinforce or add to your points. I have a habit of doing that when I like someone's post and points.

I presumed that your reason for the post in the first place was to provoke or inspire thought.

The civil war was such trauma for those who lived in the South that it seemed like fresh memory all around when I was young. It may not be such today, but I still remember the general sorrow, dread and mourning of the old folks in my youth. That sorrow was handed down like a mantle of grief over generations. I'm sure it faded with time, but the degree of it so many years later informs me of how awful it was among the living survivors at the time. The term Yankee was very pejorative. No one I knew ever wanted to visit NY, for example. That even influenced my travel desires towards the west and NW.

It took many years for me to understand some things about it.

Anyway, to embellish your points, I looked back and forward with the civil war in the center of time. Human atrocities are throughout history and still happening recently and today.

So, I agree with your sentence:

"Not much has changed at the fundamental level."

Except that now we have more capable weapons.

First thing We need is for visionaries like William Mahone to succeed.

There are too many "visionaries" with ill intent, malevolent, that prevail. Do I need to name a few who are running amuck today?


*************
Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal.



 
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If anyone really wants to get a sense of difficulties, survivors, challenges of yesteryear in the USA read this article:

It's difficult to choose just one slot of time but I think the life of Andrew Jackson is a good depiction. This seems like a good prequel to the civil war era.

Frankly I think Andrew Jackson would not be proud of being Trump's hero.

Jackson is not my hero either, but I share this article just because it represents how tough times were, and turmoil.

It also shows the origins of the Democrat Party, and how much it has changed compared to now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Jackson
Andrew Jackson


Search: is Andrew Jackson Trump's hero?

https://www.google.com/search?...wtcB&sclient=gws-wiz


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Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans.

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal.



 
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Spot on Sir ! clap


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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
Yes Naki, and my posts were intended to reinforce or add to your points. I have a habit of doing that when I like someone's post and points.

I presumed that your reason for the post in the first place was to provoke or inspire thought.

The civil war was such trauma for those who lived in the South that it seemed like fresh memory all around when I was young. It may not be such today, but I still remember the general sorrow, dread and mourning of the old folks in my youth. That sorrow was handed down like a mantle of grief over generations. I'm sure it faded with time, but the degree of it so many years later informs me of how awful it was among the living survivors at the time. The term Yankee was very pejorative. No one I knew ever wanted to visit NY, for example. That even influenced my travel desires towards the west and NW.

It took many years for me to understand some things about it.

Anyway, to embellish your points, I looked back and forward with the civil war in the center of time. Human atrocities are throughout history and still happening recently and today.

So, I agree with your sentence:

"Not much has changed at the fundamental level."

Except that now we have more capable weapons.

First thing We need is for visionaries like William Mahone to succeed.

There are too many "visionaries" with ill intent, malevolent, that prevail. Do I need to name a few who are running amuck today?


"When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick."
 
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Naki has to dig deep to find a Democrat that regretted his decisions


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Information on Ammoguide about
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What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
 
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