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Originally posted by Saeed:
This is nothing but a sad, sick joke.

What is not understood about ILLEGAL people coming into the country!

IT IS A CRIME!

So was the invasion of the Capitol.

But each side of you lot sees it differently!

JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous.

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Originally posted by JudgeG:
I guess it doesn’t matter that you have heard (from her own mouth) that Nancy Pelosi acknowledged that she’s the one who failed in her responsibility in protecting the Capital, that Liz Cheney tried to suppress Nancy’s confession, that Twitter refused to transmit the POTUS’ call for non-violence, etc.

You have the absolute right to feel whatever you wish about Trump (or the left wing idiots who flooded California with illegal aliens), but after the examples of BLM/Antifa in Minneapolis and the breaches of the Capital, condemning Trump’s deployment of the Guard and securing Gov’t property by Marines is nothing but hypocrisy.

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Originally posted by LongDistanceOperator:
Hello? Judge G? Are you there?

JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous.

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Originally posted by JudgeG:
https://cha.house.gov/2024/6/n...-6-hbo-footage-shows

Also, note that Liz Cheney hid this evidence.
Furthermore there is compelling sworn evidence from whistleblowers that Trump offered the Guard to Pelosi and the Sgt of Arms of the House on June 5th to protect the Capital on 6th.

It’s been there for you to see for months… kinda like Biden’s mental deterioration, but it seems hating Trump “trumps” simple inquiry and facts if they get in the way of hate.

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Originally posted by LongDistanceOperator:
Hello? Judge G? Are you there?

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Originally posted by MLindsay:
Well I really do not know what is the truth, all I know is the video I saw she straight out said it was her fault. I also saw a interview with the head of the Capital Police that said the job was the speaker of the house's to call out the National Guard. Hell I do not know

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
Why would it be the Speaker's job to mobilize the NG? Is there Constitutional authority for that?

The Speaker of the House isn't even in the right branch of government. It's the executive's job to call out the NG, not the legislative branch's job.

Under your scenario, "Judge," what if the Speaker tells the NG one thing, and the president another? The buck stops with the president.

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Originally posted by LongDistanceOperator:
Hello? Judge G? Are you there?

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Originally posted by MJines:
Some of y’all make me chuckle with your efforts to spin information a Second Grader can understand. So Trump sees some rioters on television burning cars a continent away, and he believes that he has the authority to call in the NG. On the other hand, he sees rioters invading the US Capitol outside his window, and it was someone else’s job to call out the NG. The only difference between the two situations is that Trump wanted to call out the NG in LA, in DC he was happy to watch his faithful trash the Capitol and assault the police.

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by MJines:
Some of y’all make me chuckle with your efforts to spin information a Second Grader can understand. So Trump sees some rioters on television burning cars a continent away, and he believes that he has the authority to call in the NG. On the other hand, he sees rioters invading the US Capitol outside his window, and it was someone else’s job to call out the NG. The only difference between the two situations is that Trump wanted to call out the NG in LA, in DC he was happy to watch his faithful trash the Capitol and assault the police.

One's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter!

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Originally posted by JudgeG:
If that’s how you feel you need to spin it, have at it. You’re in the vast minority, though. Yep, Trump and you and I didn’t see fire bombs, deadly concrete blocks thrown and paid for and trucked in rioting equipment being handed out to illegals and rioting minions in L.A. Pelosi was in charge of Capital security and refused Guard troops.

Jan 6 became a riot when the fences were breached. Pelosi has admitted (then retracted) her failure to do her job. California’s sanctuary state agenda and Biden’s open borders are the core problems. All those are facts. Wishing otherwise is fantasy. “No” is a perfectly good word, btw.

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Pelosi was in charge of Capital security

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Originally posted by JudgeG:
I guess it doesn’t matter that you have heard (from her own mouth) that Nancy Pelosi acknowledged that she’s the one who failed in her responsibility in protecting the Capital, that Liz Cheney tried to suppress Nancy’s confession, that Twitter refused to transmit the POTUS’ call for non-violence, etc.

You have the absolute right to feel whatever you wish about Trump (or the left wing idiots who flooded California with illegal aliens), but after the examples of BLM/Antifa in Minneapolis and the breaches of the Capital, condemning Trump’s deployment of the Guard and securing Gov’t property by Marines is nothing but hypocrisy.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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Pelosi was in charge of Capital security

Please show your source of the speaker's alleged responsibility.

The Constitution? A statute? Where does anything say the speaker is responsible for capitol security?

I feel like I'm talking to a couple children.

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The District of Columbia (D.C.) is managed by a mayor-council government with a unique structure due to its status as a federal district. Residents elect a mayor and a 13-member council, but Congress retains ultimate authority over the district, including the power to review and overturn local legislation.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
1. Home Rule:
The Home Rule Act of 1973 granted D.C. residents the right to elect their mayor and council.
This allows D.C. to govern its local affairs, including passing and enforcing local laws and managing its budget.
However, Congress retains the power to review and overturn local legislation and intervene in local affairs, demonstrating a unique balance of power.
2. Branches of Government:
Executive Branch:
The mayor is the head of the executive branch, responsible for enforcing D.C. laws, overseeing city services, and managing the district's budget.
Legislative Branch:
The 13-member council is responsible for passing legislation and overseeing the budget.
Judicial Branch:
D.C. has two courts: the Superior Court (trial court) and the D.C. Court of Appeals (highest court).
3. Congressional Oversight:
Congress retains significant authority over D.C., including the power to review and potentially overturn local laws.
All D.C. bills must go through a Congressional review period before they become law.
Congress also has the power to set D.C.'s budget.
4. Key Agencies and Offices:
Office of the City Administrator: Responsible for the day-to-day management of the District government.
Office of Budget and Performance Management: Manages the District's budget and performance planning.
Department of General Services: Manages District-owned and leased property.
Government Operations Cluster: Provides financial and resource management services.
In essence, D.C. operates under a system where local governance is balanced with significant federal oversight, reflecting its unique status as a federal district within the United States.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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Pelosi was in charge of Capital security

Please show your source of the speaker's alleged responsibility.

The Constitution? A statute? Where does anything say the speaker is responsible for capitol security?

I feel like I'm talking to a couple children.

Sure, venerable jimmy.. we forget you can't learn the Google

Congress, not the executive rules DC

quote:

The District of Columbia (D.C.) is managed by a mayor-council government with a unique structure due to its status as a federal district. Residents elect a mayor and a 13-member council, but Congress retains ultimate authority over the district, including the power to review and overturn local legislation.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
1. Home Rule:
The Home Rule Act of 1973 granted D.C. residents the right to elect their mayor and council.
This allows D.C. to govern its local affairs, including passing and enforcing local laws and managing its budget.
However, Congress retains the power to review and overturn local legislation and intervene in local affairs, demonstrating a unique balance of power.
2. Branches of Government:
Executive Branch:
The mayor is the head of the executive branch, responsible for enforcing D.C. laws, overseeing city services, and managing the district's budget.
Legislative Branch:
The 13-member council is responsible for passing legislation and overseeing the budget.
Judicial Branch:
D.C. has two courts: the Superior Court (trial court) and the D.C. Court of Appeals (highest court).
3. Congressional Oversight:
Congress retains significant authority over D.C., including the power to review and potentially overturn local laws.
All D.C. bills must go through a Congressional review period before they become law.
Congress also has the power to set D.C.'s budget.
4. Key Agencies and Offices:
Office of the City Administrator: Responsible for the day-to-day management of the District government.
Office of Budget and Performance Management: Manages the District's budget and performance planning.
Department of General Services: Manages District-owned and leased property.
Government Operations Cluster: Provides financial and resource management services.
In essence, D.C. operates under a system where local governance is balanced with significant federal oversight, reflecting its unique status as a federal district within the United States.

Do you need jello, pudding, or a nap?

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
It says congress rules DC

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Originally posted by JudgeG:
The House Sgt. at Arms, the corresponding Senate officer, the Capital Architect (and ex officio) may request the deployment of thr Guard if the POTUS doesn’t so act on his own motion. I believe the chief of capital police requested troops in anticipation, but was refused by Pelosi, et Al before that request ever got to the president. As you know, he had already offered the troops on 5 January.

That’s why Nancy admitted culpablity (and then hid that evidence).

In any event, there was plenty of fault to go around. Do you want me to.