His dare someone stand up to President Trump, and the fake conservatives.

If only Sen. Tillis had been this politically brave to prevent Sen. Hegseth.

Too bad he is not brave enough to fight Trump’s threats to primary him.
I might get beat, but I would not run away.

Trump and his garbage must defeated at the ballot box.

Given that Tillis only won by 2 percent, a MAGA fool might swing the seat D.

North Carolina is always unpredictable. Gov. Cooper is popular and would be a very strong candidate for the Senate. Competing for an open seat rather than running against a two-term incumbent. Good stuff.

And, good for Tillis. Abdicating his seat has given him the freedom to call out trump on his bullshit big beautiful bill which is nothing more than welfare for millionaires. Tax cuts given to those that don't need it at the expense of healthcare for the poor.

Yes and no. Food for him growing spine. However, the decision to run away is weak.

I’d tell Trump to pick his man and meet me in Salem, Charlotte, Hope Mills, and Parkton.

Over 80 percent of the counties in NC are rural. Let’s see how Trump does running someone who tried to bully their champion.

The problem is the state party is weak.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Yes and no. Food for him growing spine. However, the decision to run away is weak.

I’d tell Trump to pick his man and meet me in Salem, Charlotte, Hope Mills, and Parkton.

Over 80 percent of the counties in NC are rural. Let’s see how Trump does running someone who tried to bully their champion.

The problem is the state party is weak.

trump beat Biden and Harris in NC. And, Tillis was never that strong of a candidate. Barely won his first term and his opponent in the second election got caught banging an aid a few weeks before the vote. Not sure how much support he would muster among trump republicans in NC.

He is a 2 percent candidate. The problem is not being moderate.

It is weak to not fight for the seat.

You can beat me, but I’m not going to put my gloves in my bag and go home.

I’ll make you spend every dime in the primary.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
... Tax cuts given to those that don't need it at the expense of healthcare for the poor.

Dems voted down an amendment that would have started a fix on this

Band aid on a heart cut open.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Band aid on a heart cut open.

Double current funding is hardly a bandaid. Increasing taxes on 25x millionaires is hardly a bandaid. It would have benefited a huge, impactful win...

Nothing is static. You just agreed nursing home care will be cut. That is healthcare.

Band aid to cover their scheme.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Nothing is static. You just agreed nursing home care will be cut. That is healthcare.

Band aid to cover their scheme.

Oh, sorry I didnt line out that I was referring, again, to the dem voted down amendment that would have created a fix. What did you say the other day" God throw me out of heaven " or some such corn porn?

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Nothing is static. You just agreed nursing home care will be cut. That is healthcare.

Band aid to cover their scheme.

Lots of elderly folks rely on Medicaid to fund their nursing home expenses. I wonder what's going to happen to those folks when Medicaid stops that funding?

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Nothing is static. You just agreed nursing home care will be cut. That is healthcare.

Band aid to cover their scheme.

Oh, sorry I didnt line out that I was referring, again, to the dem voted down amendment that would have created a fix. What did you say the other day" God throw me out of heaven " or some such corn porn?

I'm not sure what amendment you're talking about. I'm sure it had some sort of add-ons or requirements that was guaranteed to make it a non-starter but would allow the republicans to say what you're saying right now in an effort to stave off blame for giving the rich tax cuts at the expense of the poor's healthcare. Which is exactly what is happening.

In true politico fashion the cuts come in 2026. Why do you guys think Trump Team wants this done so soon? That is to prevent this massive shell game of wealth redistribution up to the powerful from being an election issue.

That is what this bill is wealth redistribution up with the burden reduced to the Second Estate.

If this is not done now, with Holidays, recesses, Congress cowards having to hear from constituents, time makes the bill more a burden.

Do it now, fast, no one has time to digest it. The cuts come later, folks forget, and we can get through the election.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Nothing is static. You just agreed nursing home care will be cut. That is healthcare.

Band aid to cover their scheme.

Lots of elderly folks rely on Medicaid to fund their nursing home expenses. I wonder what's going to happen to those folks when Medicaid stops that funding?

Maybe there is money to rehabilitate bridges for the elderly. Assisted living runs about $150K per year in places. Dog kennels are cheaper, bridges cheaper yet.

I idly wonder how much of Trump's electorate is old enough to need it.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Nothing is static. You just agreed nursing home care will be cut. That is healthcare.

Band aid to cover their scheme.

It must be exhausting, running around like your head is cut off to move those goals posts and topics

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Originally posted by TomP:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Nothing is static. You just agreed nursing home care will be cut. That is healthcare.

Band aid to cover their scheme.

Lots of elderly folks rely on Medicaid to fund their nursing home expenses. I wonder what's going to happen to those folks when Medicaid stops that funding?

Maybe there is money to rehabilitate bridges for the elderly. Assisted living runs about $150K per year in places. Dog kennels are cheaper, bridges cheaper yet.

I idly wonder how much of Trump's electorate is old enough to need it.

But certain states shell out enormous amounts of taxpayer money to feed, house, educate and provide medical care all free of charge for ILLEGALS.

Twain, not nearly as exhausting as trying to Eden’s Trump policy.

This bill harms healthcare for disabled, older, and low income folks. It harms funding for they care. Bottom of the line.

I get it. You see yourself as part of the class benefiting.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Twain, not nearly as exhausting as trying to Eden’s Trump policy.

This bill harms healthcare for disabled, older, and low income folks. It harms funding for they care. Bottom of the line.

I get it. You see yourself as part of the class benefiting.

You don't "get" anything. I am a proponent of doubling rural care and raising taxes in everyone making $25m plus. Must you always be this taxing, or do you just need a strawman for a dolly?

I raised the stink about dems voting down the above amendment ... you are just standing in the shadows, throwing stones

I get very well that you have defended this political action.

I also get you did not deny the position.

I also get that there is no evidence that such doubling at this point in time will offset Medicaid loss over time.

I also get that this bill harms healthcare in many ways: funding to rural care to aid for by Medicaid, HIV/Aids funding, along tee care to Seniors, care to disabled folks.

Trump called all this waste and frauds in calls to House hold outs today.

It may pass. So be it. The policy is bad for citizens while enriching our Second Estate.

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:

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Originally posted by TomP:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Nothing is static. You just agreed nursing home care will be cut. That is healthcare.

Band aid to cover their scheme.

Lots of elderly folks rely on Medicaid to fund their nursing home expenses. I wonder what's going to happen to those folks when Medicaid stops that funding?

Maybe there is money to rehabilitate bridges for the elderly. Assisted living runs about $150K per year in places. Dog kennels are cheaper, bridges cheaper yet.

I idly wonder how much of Trump's electorate is old enough to need it.

But certain states shell out enormous amounts of taxpayer money to feed, house, educate and provide medical care all free of charge for ILLEGALS.

No. They don't. As pointed out to you previously about a dozen times. There might be some states that are providing benefits but I guess that's a local matter voters can decide for themselves. Some folks have some compassion and understanding regarding why workers come here illegally....so they can work and take care of their families.

Even Google AI knows it.

>>>Generally, undocumented immigrants are not eligible for most federal welfare programs in the United States. This includes programs like SNAP (food stamps), Medicaid, SSI, and TANF. While they may be eligible for some limited emergency services like emergency Medicaid, they are largely excluded from receiving ongoing, means-tested benefits.<<<<

The above makes a fatal assumption. President Trump May have been elected by a collation of voters who do not need it. However, he is the President of all. The Congress is a balancing act of competing interests, that is tasked with the distribution of resources.

Debate within the bodies, debate within the populace directed at the bodies, and personal judgment are the factors to reach the “greater good” in distributing and muster these resources.

That system does not work when folks vote to pass a bill only to go on TV ask the sister body to defeat it. That system does not work when members of the body reject the above to satisfy a seperate branch of government.

It does not work when a President decides to enrich a class that enjoys political and economic power at the expense of everyone else.

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Originally posted by TomP:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Nothing is static. You just agreed nursing home care will be cut. That is healthcare.

Band aid to cover their scheme.

Lots of elderly folks rely on Medicaid to fund their nursing home expenses. I wonder what's going to happen to those folks when Medicaid stops that funding?

Maybe there is money to rehabilitate bridges for the elderly. Assisted living runs about $150K per year in places. Dog kennels are cheaper, bridges cheaper yet.

I idly wonder how much of Trump's electorate is old enough to need it.

A lot of the bridges here probably aren't safe to live under.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:

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Originally posted by TomP:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Nothing is static. You just agreed nursing home care will be cut. That is healthcare.

Band aid to cover their scheme.

Lots of elderly folks rely on Medicaid to fund their nursing home expenses. I wonder what's going to happen to those folks when Medicaid stops that funding?

Maybe there is money to rehabilitate bridges for the elderly. Assisted living runs about $150K per year in places. Dog kennels are cheaper, bridges cheaper yet.

I idly wonder how much of Trump's electorate is old enough to need it.

But certain states shell out enormous amounts of taxpayer money to feed, house, educate and provide medical care all free of charge for ILLEGALS.

No. They don't. As pointed out to you previously about a dozen times. There might be some states that are providing benefits but I guess that's a local matter voters can decide for themselves. Some folks have some compassion and understanding regarding why workers come here illegally....so they can work and take care of their families.

Even Google AI knows it.

>>>Generally, undocumented immigrants are not eligible for most federal welfare programs in the United States. This includes programs like SNAP (food stamps), Medicaid, SSI, and TANF. While they may be eligible for some limited emergency services like emergency Medicaid, they are largely excluded from receiving ongoing, means-tested benefits.<<<<

I think he is referring to state tax dollars and not Federally supplied tax dollars.

The classic danger of democracy
Vote yourself other peoples money instead of thinking and working all your life to secure yourself in golden years

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Originally posted by TomP:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Nothing is static. You just agreed nursing home care will be cut. That is healthcare.

Band aid to cover their scheme.

Lots of elderly folks rely on Medicaid to fund their nursing home expenses. I wonder what's going to happen to those folks when Medicaid stops that funding?

Maybe there is money to rehabilitate bridges for the elderly. Assisted living runs about $150K per year in places. Dog kennels are cheaper, bridges cheaper yet.

I idly wonder how much of Trump's electorate is old enough to need it.

You wanna put your old folks in dog kennels?

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Originally posted by M.Shy:
The classic danger of democracy
Vote yourself other peoples money instead of thinking and working all your life to secure yourself in golden years

Democrats do not want to hear that!!!!!!

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Originally posted by TomP:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Nothing is static. You just agreed nursing home care will be cut. That is healthcare.

Band aid to cover their scheme.

Lots of elderly folks rely on Medicaid to fund their nursing home expenses. I wonder what's going to happen to those folks when Medicaid stops that funding?

Maybe there is money to rehabilitate bridges for the elderly. Assisted living runs about $150K per year in places. Dog kennels are cheaper, bridges cheaper yet.

I idly wonder how much of Trump's electorate is old enough to need it.

You wanna put your old folks in dog kennels?

A nurse of my acquaintance worked for the Joint Commission surveying assisted living facilities. She refers to the bad ones as "dog kennels". I am at an age where these matters are no longer at arm's length; my friends are dying off and I idly wonder how long my carcass will continue to function.

I knew Tom P was being sarcastically illuminating in response to the advocacy for the BBB shown here.

We had a bill here in our state legislature some time ago. It was passed by the lower chamber when the Ds still had control. The bill requires nursing homes to have X a number of staff for every Medicaid patient.

There was a doctor who had an interest (operational) in a bunch of nursing homes here. One of the state’s biggest R donors owns a bunch of nursing homes. The bill does in the state Senate’s committee. The bill was assigned to the nursing home doc’s committee. He was a state Senator at the time.
He was added to the GOP ticket for Gov that lost.

That is the day I started to walk away from the fake, new age conservatives.

Magats don't need proof. Ever.