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Like the below article mentions.....many republicans would much prefer to lose with fake dignity than win....
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But....if you want more tampons in boys restrooms, more illegal aliens.... More economic malaise....by all means don't vote Trump. He wasn't my choice in the primary, I was firmly behind DeSantis...but as of now there are only two choices. | |||
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Truly sorry to hear about your economic issues Jim. I have not seen much economic malaise since Trump shut the economy down during Covid. The recovery has treated me very well. I hope things improve for you soon | |||
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Dignity as far as the MAGA ARSEHOLE is concerned??? Hahahahaha! | |||
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Any article that starts out lamenting the fact that Greg Gutfeld is "one of the few remaining conservative voices at FOX News" deserves to be used as asswipe, not to be read. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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to think, i would have thought greg's tax return would have said "comic" - opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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In reply to Gutfield, id remind him that we have experience with Trump. President Trump failed with corona, failed in DPRK, failed in Afghanistan. Because of Trump's combative style, Trump failed to achieve consensus domestically and internationally. Trumps name calling oddly enough put off other "rulers" he should have been allying with. Looking forward with the above as a resume, Trump has previously called for the suspension of the Constitution, has said he'd pardon January 6th convicts and has supported the idea of military tribunals for his fellow Americans. Gutfield is no more or less than a sniveling, cowardly talking head like Carlson and hell no, I'm not voting for Trump. | |||
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If Trump had the intelligence and ability to come across as reasonably conservative, both fiscally and socially, he could easily win this election. He does not have that ability, because he doesn't have the intelligence. He is already looking for excuses for his loss, for something to blame other than his own failings. If we get stuck with Kamala, it will be Trump's fault and the fault of his followers for refusing to run a decent candidate. Bill | |||
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Honest question - seriously - Let's unpack that - wanted to block travel from China - Biden called him xenophobic (was a little distracted by the impeachment) - Rolled out a huge mobile hospital to NYS, unused put hospital ships in NYC, unused started operation warp speed, creating new therapeutics for an prior unknown "novel" virus - was said it could take 5 years to dev a vax .. still might, as it's not a vax, but it's been pushed on the majority of americans issued (regardless of veracity) guidance on how to prevent the spread - so, in failing corona, what could he have done MORE for it? oh, this past 2 weeks, more people i know or co-workers, are stilling getting it, and one I don't know, good ole joe, are getting it - even triple vaxxed ... So, what could have, with the knowledge in the moment, gone better? and, of course, more americans died from covid under biden's watch than trumps - that's a result of time, not of presidential effort, but it's measurable Trump didn't kill 10-15k people by forcing active covid cases into nursing homes and THEN under report the deaths - THIS is failing opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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People have short memories. Especially here. ~Ann | |||
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Exactly I have been saying this for a while now! | |||
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Does any one name in particular come to mind? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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I wrote in Rick Perry in my Primary. But make no mistake, I definitely support him in the General over Kami and Timi! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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https://natlawreview.com/artic...rosecutions-are-rise I think it said 17% of the distributions were fraudulent? Yes ann, especially here people have, | |||
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PPP loan scammers? while trumps signature is on the label, it has nancy's pawprints all over it - but what could trump have done "better" in your opinion, but based on information available at the time? wanna talk abject failures of gummit spending? let's try solyndra opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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What we should have done: Warned the public a virus is circulating — be warned to limit your exposure and take precautions. Spent money on the development of treatment strategies and vaccines. Offered vaccines to people with warnings to take at your own discretion. But most of all…carry on life as normal as possible. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Not exactly as Sen. McConnell told a group of us he voted for it because it was necessary. So, no it was not a Dem thing. It was a bipartisan thing. | |||
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Snort. | |||
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Its not a short memory.....its a selective memory! | |||
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Well, Scott mentioned the vaccine… It is a vaccine, just not a particularly useful one nor one that achieved the hype it was claimed to do. | |||
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Never bring a knife to a gunfight. Dems and msm are a vicious cadre hell bent on destroying any person with an opposing view point. Win an important election or position…expect to be brought up on legal charges. Nice guys finish last has never been more apropos. Until Democrats take control of the party BACK from loan forgiveness, tampons for boys, free drug paraphernalia, defund the police, open borders, animal rights freaks, anti hunting freaks, lunatic left and the msm propaganda arm, Trump and all his assholishness are just what the Doctor ordered. Pun intended Lane! | |||
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Scott Not picking on you. I am not reading anything about what trump good have done better with the knowledge at hand at the time. I am open to hearing it opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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More than one way to answer I think. I'm skeptical that either you or I or any other regular guy has a handle of the "knowledge on hand". I think we know now the shutdown was a mistake, the vaccine didn't work as sold and corona certainly isn't going away. What did Trump's admin know then? Beats me. If anyone should have known anything right then and at that moment it was that the shutdown was suicidal for the kids and the working economy. I never did think there was any magic money tree, you just can't send everyone home to sit and do nothing, pay them for it and figure it'll all balance out. Specifically to PPP, if you can't administer a fund any better than to allow 20% fraud, maybe you shouldn't be a fund manager. What's really the point though,is that we don't hire these guys to try,btp make an effort,bto really mean to,bwe hire these guys to win. To succeed. As the Boss, you don't get to say, "Nancy wouldn't let me!" You don't get to cop out with the competition was mean, "I just didn't know!" Theres no gold star on the forehead for trying, no trophy for participation. Custer, Patton, Grant, Eisenhower were popular and remembered because they won. Washington beat King George, he succeeded. Churchill beat Germany,bye won. Trump didn't win,he lost. I don't care about his efforts, Trump was POTUS to, "Make America Great Again!". "Make" not "Try". He didn't. | |||
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We should have never shut down…fact. But if you think Trump did that wrong…just check out how Walz dove off the deep end wearing a lead deep diving belt. That guy is bat-shit crazy. He makes Kami look conservative. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Just for rebuttal The house controls the purse, and administers the funds and funding. The States decided lockdowns not trump Remember 2 weeks to flatten the curve? Trump gave NYS everything Andy the love gov asked for. Most of which he never used. But I ask again, if ANYONE else was in the POTUS what would they have done differently and better? The only "plan" I saw in this administration was to push the vax. That's it. The trump vax, that madcow first said she would never take, then famously demanded everyone take it. opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Again and as always, (I've said this several times to Jeff and it's obviously not going to sink in,) I flat refuse to accept or legitimize based on what others did. "W" did not win in Afghanistan. Period as in Period, all stop. Obama, (Hope!) did not win in Afghanistan. Period. That "W" had anything to do with anything is superfluous. Obama didn't win. Trump, (Make America Great Again!" did not win in Afghanistan. All stop. Biden,........ It a setup for failure to knee jerk point fingers across the aisle instead of taking the responsibility on ourselves to succeed. The argument I'm reading here is that somehow Trump earning a grade of F+ is superior to Bidens earned grade of F-. I'm not buying it. | |||
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There is no fake dignity to it. I would rather lose than win by the means Trump was trying to employ post election. Those means are against our Constitution. Neither Party is enshrined in our Common to self political power. I would rather live in a world where Dems could beat GOPers at the polls, than a world where a minority uses violence to impose a result. I would rather live in a world where a Dem wins than a world where a man who calls for the suspension of the Constitution welds political power. I would rather live in a world of bad policy instead of either a) illegitimate means taking power or b) a perfect world by my design. I would rather live in a world the limits legislative action against its people when the only controlling principle for legislation is, @ I think those people are gross bc my pastor said so, and you have to pray like I do.” | |||
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Yep, you would cut your nose off to spite your face. We learned that long ago. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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That, or Josh still has a functioning moral compass | |||
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By having a moral compass I take that you mean not protecting our borders from illegal invasion and drug smuggling? Not protecting our citizens from crime and destroying our economy. Got it! | |||
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I have one. It says try to keep a (D) away from executive power executive power. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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That's a great point!!! . | |||
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One of Us |
I was thinking more along the lines of not supporting a lying, cheating, philandering, felon that tried to steal a presidential election myself. | |||
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My moral compass on this matter is what I have written. | |||
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The president is neither an advocate nor a figurehead. The president is supposed to enforce the laws of the country as passed by congress, and administer the nation based on his policy beliefs as subjected to the constitution. He is not a figurehead as he has real power, albeit very narrowly defined. The place for advocacy is in court. | |||
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And vote for a lying, philandering, narcissistic seditionist who is a convicted felon. Only you could characterize that as indicative of a moral compass. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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