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Israel just announced it would reopen humanitarian corridor. However, I concur in part being Netanyahu must resign as a condition of continued U.S. support. That is where I am on the issue. Gantz would be acceptable to me. I dissent in part being Hamas gets to remain a political unit in Gaza. https://www.ctpublic.org/2024-...-elections-in-israel Hamas was so stupid in its barbarism of Israel. All it did was give Netanyahu political life. | |||
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Has there been a reason expressed why Hamas continues to use mothers like Reem Homuda (30) as civilian human shields for their terrorism? This hospital that the IDF has attacked twice now,....did the Israelies attack it twice because the terrorists were not using it for shelter? Or was Hamas actually using the hospital for cover? If Hamas and the rest of the world cared at all for the Palestinian civilians in Gaza they would encourage/ force Hamas to accept defeat and withdraw. It seems obvious to me that Hamas and the rest of the world care nothing for the Palestinians, the outcry is thinly veiled hate for Israel. | |||
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Were the schools, hospitals and homes bombed by America in Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq housing terrorists? Or nationals defending their homes against crimes committed by foreign invaders?? | |||
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So, you are justifying Hamas hiding behind pregnant women in order to defend their homes. Cool! But, see, that's why "total war", scorched earth is the only way to fight war. The West look like idiots using Rules of Engagement when the Caliphate hides behind pregnant women in hospitals and kindergarten classrooms. I guess we should be thankful that someone as high up the food chain as you are justified Netanyu's methods.  | |||
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Hey, when you’re “Gods Chosen People” and the rest of the planet’s population is simply organic detritus, you can do what you want. It worked just fine for Adolf, and Trump already has about 30% of Americans on board with the concept of preeminent superiority so you have to admit it’s effective. | |||
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What Hamas has done is a crime against humanity! No questions about it. But let us not forget the continuous killing, and destroying of Palestinians homes. To make way for new illegal colonies for imported people just because they are Jews! The Zionist entity is the most racist colonizing force in the world! Peace will NEVER happen until the Palestinians get their rights returned to them. Living in a glorified concentration camp in your own country is not acceptable by anyone! Except some Westerners who are still reeling from all the guilt THEY have visited on innocent Jews! They are making the Palestinians pay for their crimes! | |||
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Saeed, per you the zionists are not racist. You repeatedly state you are both semites. The zionists are either tribal or religious bigots, not racist. | |||
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Are Jews and Palestinians, who I think are Arabs, the same race? Certainly, both are human. | |||
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The problem is for the last 70+ years there is two sets of rules when it comes to war. One set for America and one for our opponents. America tries to take the high ground when it comes to the rules of engagement and how we conduct a war. We don't always succeed but at least we try. Our enemies have a completely different set of rules. They can do just about anything like murder, rape etc. and because it is against Americans it is ok. Middle eastern Arab counties are particularly bad about this because America is considered the big bad devil and highest respect you can get is to kill Americans in any form or fashion. This double standard is very evident in the attitude of Arabs today. Arabs want nothing more than the total elimination of Israel but when Israel tries to take out Hamas then Israel is bad. Until the Arabs learn to be more tolerant of other people and religions the whole middle east is going to remain just a big cesspool of ignorant, intolerant, terrorist supporting people. | |||
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And the American set of rules why we find ourselves in perpetual war. It's horrendous. America has permanent military bAses in half the nations on earth and we find ourselves just barely doing enough to tamp down the raging inferno instead of drowning it out. Nobody fear American war anymore because the fighting is a long way from being over and we trip and stumble all over ourselves to pass out bandaids and hot chocolate to our sworn enemies. Why not attack America? The Taliban got Humvees, M4's and Blackhawks out of the deal.  | |||
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The Palestinians are only killing themselves, so long as they allow themselves to be human shields for the terrorists, Hamas. If I were in a hospital with Hamas hiding in the basement, I'd be smart enough to stagger or crawl my way to a different location. The human shield strategy shouldn't be allowed to succeed. Hamas is responsible for the civilian deaths, no one else. | |||
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The Palestinians and Hamas are only disposable pawns in the big game. The Arabs game is to get rid of Israel period. It does not matter how or who they have to sacrifice to get it done. Hamas may not be the brightest people but even they would have known what Israel would do after they attached. It was basically committing suicide. The real question is why. The only reasonable answer I can come up with is that Hamas was played and convinced there was a good end game for them and that they would come out better. This had to be done and sponsored by some outside influence, most likely Iran and other Arab countries. My guess is that the Arab world was hoping Israel would be outraged at what happened and would go way overboard and try to wipe Hamas off the face of the map and thus make mistakes and get world opinion turned farter against them. The sad part is it appears to be working only too well and that the Palestinians are getting killed and Israel is alienating itself, two pawns of the big game and they are both losing. | |||
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I am surprised at the anti semitism. I know full well it's Biblical, it's historical and has always been a part of current events and culture that I'm aware of. This anti Semitism seems more powerful and widespread. That there's any anti Israel umbrage after what Hamas did and was well documented on October 7th makes me question sanity. That there's any pro Hamas, pro Palestinian protesting in the United States such a short time after 9/11 and our decades of Middle East entanglements is mind blowing. I love my neighbor so id never want to see it, but I can imagine with horror picking up some of these American women pro Palestine protestors, dropping them off in Tehran, handing them back their signs and bullhorns and telling them to get after it! I doubt the Iranians would use guns, but the sticks and whips would be bloodied quickly and there'd be a few arranged marriages that evening. | |||
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The best, best as in they gave some kind of number, was that Hamas had 4 battalion sized number of forces around Rafah. That has to reduced. I have no problem with the offensive. I have a problem w shooting hostages coming out w hands up and shirts off to show they have no bombs. I have a problem with this side convoy getting shot up when the organization coordinated with the IDF and did not debate from that coordination. Two IDF Officers were fired today over that. I have a problem with this kill all of them and make it Israel. A) That will mot work. B) That will destabilize the region and leave Israel isolated fighting a two front insurgency. C) Will create a less secure Israel. I also have a problem with Netanyahu agreeing to Hamas to receive funding do as to prevent a moderate party from taking power. I have a problem w Netanyahu’s Government using this crisis to expand settlement on the West Bank. A two state solution is and should remain U.S. Policy. Israeli and Israeli War Cabinet members have similar concerns. https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/...ion-amid-war-on-gaza https://foreignpolicy.com/2024...-netanyahu-strategy/ https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/0...l-grip-on-power-intl And Pew Research on Netanyahu. https://www.pewresearch.org/sh...-in-israeli-society/ I gave multiple sources for the position Israelis and War Cabinet official former IDF Grantz has problems with Netanyahu. I would still give munitions and other support. My policy subject to Congress would be to condition such aid upon a government devoid of Netanyahu. Now, Congress passed an aid package so that condition, I would follow the Act of Congress as Congress controls the purses. However, as president my stated position would be known. I have no idea what these cease-fire deals have consisted of. I will say no negotiated settlement needs to be endorsed or supported by the U.S. that permits Hamas to continue to exists as a political entity within Gaza/Palestine. Sure should not accept there be pressure led into such an arrangement. Hamas gets the Nazis treatment with it being banned as a matter of law alone its symbols. Leaders of Hamas who had planning or execution of October 7 sent to Israel for protection. They can always try to flee. Those goals are non-negotiable from my point of view of humanity and US Policy. | |||
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Don't confuse anti Zionism with anti Semitism. There is a world of difference. Some of things done to innocent Jews all over the world right now makes my blood boil! It is NOT acceptable. THEY are not responsible for the Zionists crimes in Palestine. But this event certainly has raised eye brows of the injustices being done to the Palestinians. And about time too. Israel has been growing like an unchecked cancer. Building colonies on stolen Palestinian lands. Time to wake up! | |||
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It’s easier said than done. Hamas has the guns and as a civilian you have the choice of Hamas guns being pointed at you or Israeli guns pointed at you. If you have half your leg blown off on an air strike you can go to hospital for life saving treatment or stay where you are and bleed out. Not much of a choice. Gaza is a pretty small place. Estimates of the number of Hamas tunnels vary but 500km is an often used figure. If the place is riddled wit that many tunnels it’s not as easy as you think to get away from being a human shield when Israel is trying to destroy the tunnel network, and that’s if you even know there are tunnels under your house or village. | |||
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 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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What a choice of words. Israel is like a cancer. Ok! Got it! | |||
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You say your aid would be conditional to the removal of Netanyahu. So Israel holds free and fair elections, N is duly elected just like trump or Biden was, Israel is a Sovereign State and you want to install the puppet government you like. Wow Man. Is there a point down the road in your plan where the citizens of Israel get to elect their own Ruler? | |||
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Sheikh Saeed, you're not actually recommending Hamas as therapy, are you? . | |||
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America's leaders want to make this America's fight. The only real question is, which side will American troops be fighting for? This is the sort of problem Globalists have gotten the USA into. Intractable, infinity wars. | |||
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Netanyahu is Israel’s Trump. Trump plus 80 IQ points. For some people it is not hard to hold two thoughts at the same time, ie, Hamas’s attack was an act against what one hope is the current rules of humanity and Israel’s killing 33,000 civilians is a horrendous act of war crimes. Many Israeli’s are against the wholesale slaughter of innocent civilians, yet Netanyahu continues the wholesale massacre . Folks, it’s no longer about Hamas. It’s about Bibi remaining in power. If Israel’s war on humanity ends, Bibi is gone and will probably be prosecuted for crimes, like Trump, he has been able to avoid for years. Last week, Netanyahu ordered an attack on the Iranian embassy in Syria. Bibi wants a wider war in the middle east I believe that Biden has shown a lack of moral clarity. | |||
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Adolf Hitler Of The 21st Century! NitanHitler, and ALL his criminal supporters in the West, are nothing but CRIMINALS AGAINST HUMANITY!  | |||
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Has Hamas offered a reason why they've not surrendered in the face of so many of their human shields killed? Me for one, if a guy was shooting at me id prefer to shoot back at him instead of the toddler he's hiding behind. I bet the IDF feels similarly. The impression I have that Hamas cares nothing for their Palestinian human shields grows stronger daily. | |||
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https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/30...a-war-cec/index.html It seems that over the last 20 years America has taken 2000 Palestinian refugees. Saeed, how many do you have inside your gates? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...in%20Israel%20proper. Speaking of benevolence, Israel has 1/4 million Palestinians living in Israel proper. | |||
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There is no such thing as ISRAEL PROPER. IT IS PALESTINE! Has always been. And will be in the future! Zionism will not last. Nazism did not, and Zionism will disappear too. The whole world has been shown what Zionism is. NitanHitlet is it is New Adolf! | |||
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So if I understand you correctly you're a, "From the River to the Sea!" kinda guy? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...0Italy%20and%20Japan. Of the Seven Super Powers I'm not sure I see a whole lotta promotion of The Caliphate. I'd wish you best of luck at erasing Zion and Zionism, but of course I wouldn't mean it. | |||
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Dang it! The UAE slashed funding to UNRUA and the Palestinians by 98% in 2021. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...pse%20in%20relations. But why?!?!?!?!  | |||
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Scott, King Lowe knows best!  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Yawn: Netanyahu, has direct control over a war who has caused by his forced hand the death of US citizens and the hostages. If Congress wants to give him aid so condition, as President I would sign it. My position would be as above for the reasons stated above. Hostages, Allowing funding to go to Hamas to prevent a moderate party from obtaining political power, The attack on an aid convey clearly marked that coordinated with the IDF and did not deviate from that coordination. That also killed US citizens. The illegal, yes illegal, expansion of settlement on the West Bank. His non-commitment to a two state solution. The crimes he was on trial for prior to reelection. The attempt to destroy Court review. When Netanyahu wants to conduct his administration thusly, he has lost international legitimacy. He can be duly elected Israel. That does not demand Us policy support his efforts. I know that is complicated for De. Easter’s 3 grade civics mind, but the U.S. has no obligation to support another nation’s policy choices. Only, the use of our still hegemonic power can have any info on this situation. Now, not using it is an option as well. Without direction by spending bill from Congress m, you have my position and the why. Hamas was legitimately elected back when President Bush was the Chief Magistrate. He insisted on the elections; even after being informed Hamas would win the vote. Are we advocating the U.S. policy slums be that Hamas stay in power because they won a fair election? No, you two do not. Nothing, except a treaty or Congress control of the purse, requires us to support a Netanyahu administration. | |||
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As history has proven…every time a US Admin rebuked Israel…they were wrong. Netanyahu will seek out and destroy Hamas…the world will be a better place… …despite King Lowe’s failure to understand and support.  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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History has not proven that, and the U.S. does not have a history of rebuking Israel. The best example I can give of that is Bush pushing for Gaza-Palestinian elections. Our History is very pro Israel as it should be. It does not need to be pro-Netanyahu. | |||
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You should read more. A few nuclear reactors went out of commission despite our chastisement. Other examples as well. I know quite a few Israeli nationals…all stand with Netanyahu. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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What makes me wonder is the call for Regime Change inspite of centuries of documented historical failures. Herod The Great of Christs time, The Vichy government of France and then whoever we put in Afghanistan. The Russians installed a Ruler in Afghanistan, so did we, look who took back over in seconds. Heym tries to neuter his stance by saying "if Congress sent me the bill I'd sign it" what the heck does Congress have to do with anything? Not a single one of them is an Israeli voter?!?!?!?! I think it returns again to the ignorance of Americans in global politics and culture with a healthy dose of American arrogance. There's a reason Vlad is still in charge in Russia, a reason Kim Chow Mein is still a Ruler in DPRK and no it's not because the entire countries are idiots. For some reason N is still in charge in Israel and if I remember right that's been the case on and off for a decade or more. As far as I can tell Israel has been on the offense and not defensive since October 7th and the casualties are Palestinian/ Hamas, not Jew. I read that Israel is pulling troops out of Gaza and the plan to go at Rafa is still active. It seems obvious to me that's a good plan since Hamas hasn't surrendered and still uses pregnant women to hide behind. If there's any Regime Change to be made it seems the removal of Hamas is the obvious one. As I pointed out above, Saeed really doesn't mind, his cousins and uncles cut their budget to his "Palestine" by 98%!The installation of Mohammed Reza Pahlavi should have been the last time we moved people on and off the throne. | |||
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I don't know if there was ever a chance of a two state solution but, if there was....Oct. 7 ended it for the foreseeable future. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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US money is a congressional responsibility. If congress puts conditions on its disbursement to foreign nations, I don’t know that the president has to follow them as foreign policy is the privilege of the executive branch… but congress can elect to not send money at all. This is another example of Biden’s ineptitude. He told Israel and the world we backed Israel no matter what back in October. We are now trying to change our minds. I don’t think we should be telling Israel who their leader should be. If we disagree with their war, we can say so, and we can withhold funds unless the law precludes it… but unless we are willing to hypocritically defend a bunch of terrorists, we are stuck with whoever Israel elects. Who knows, Israel is a democratic nation, they may well boot Netanyahu… but that’s their decision, not ours. Given our experiences in the Middle East, we certainly have no right to lecture how to win a war long term there. Biden’s attempts to help Ukraine are likewise problematic. He’s not been at all receptive to providing oversight with how our money is being used there. Ukraine is highly corrupt- even Zelensky admits to problems there- and while throwing money at it without regulatory oversight in the short term is sometimes necessary, the fighting over it now because “they need the funds” strikes me as just more evidence of his ineptitude. Not that Trump’s recommendations wouldn’t work, but somehow Ukrainian capitulation doesn’t strike me as a good end result. I do think that the Ukrainian war is more a European problem than ours, but it is ours also. I don’t have a great answer as to how to get the EU to pick up a more appropriate share of the bill, especially since we are in deficit spending ourselves. | |||
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