Remember when I said the Supreme Court precedent preventing states from banning birth control was the next target of the Organized Christian Evangelicals.

Dr. Easter said it would not happen.

Well, a Texas Judge has already struck down a Fed Law permitting Teens access to Contraception wo parental consent. This Texas Judge’s ruling is in direct violation, no wiggle room, to the Supreme Court case Carey v. Population Services International that declared minors have a right to contraception wo parental consent.

Again, let us relitigate all the culture war issues we done lost. That will make people vote for us.

https://www.dallasnews.com/new...eens/?outputType=amp


Now, Texas Judge has done it again striking Down provisions of the Affordable Care Act that require coverage to pay for contraception and things like Diabetes prevention, cancer screenings, and HIC treatment.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/a...e-program-for-minors

I cannot say too much. KY Legislature just told doctors Thou Myst De-Transition your patients regardless of what the medical community, the child’s parents, or the child wants.

We are your Republic Legislators. We know what is best.

We should be ashamed of ourselves. The usual folks will be so proud.

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Well, a Texas Judge has already struck down a Fed Law permitting Teens access to Contraception wo parental consent. This Texas Judge’s ruling is in direct violation, no wiggle room, to the Supreme Court case Carey v. Population Services International that declared minors have a right to contraception wo parental consent.

Parents should be involved in all medical decisions for under age minor children!

That will stop them from screwing!

Or not.

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Well, a Texas Judge has already struck down a Fed Law permitting Teens access to Contraception wo parental consent. This Texas Judge’s ruling is in direct violation, no wiggle room, to the Supreme Court case Carey v. Population Services International that declared minors have a right to contraception wo parental consent.

Parents should be involved in all medical decisions for under age minor children!

I know a couple of women who were abused as children by family members who STRONGLY disagree with you.

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Well, a Texas Judge has already struck down a Fed Law permitting Teens access to Contraception wo parental consent. This Texas Judge’s ruling is in direct violation, no wiggle room, to the Supreme Court case Carey v. Population Services International that declared minors have a right to contraception wo parental consent.

Parents should be involved in all medical decisions for under age minor children!

Unless they have been declared emancipated minors by the court.

The courts can get involved in letting individuals be free of parental authority.

Coincidentally what exactly are we talking about here?

Probably hormonal contraceptives.

They do have side effects, you know.

To the best of my knowledge condoms (make and female) are not regulated. If a kid has money, they can buy them, and no law is involved there. Kind of hard to regulate that.

Now, there is an indirect way that even with these laws the parents can find out.

They are paying the bills. Even PP submits them.

The billing is coded to service (by law).

They just need to get their billing statements and work backwards.

Same way that your government knows your supposedly private health information.

HIPPA gives them that right.

Parents involved in all medical decisions? Except gender dysphoria. We have a legislature that knows best.

And not for north control for the reasons the Supreme Court has stated.

If I were the aggrieved party in the Texas Case, I would not appeal and Give this Supreme Court a chance to overturn another 50 year old precedent that extended rights.

The District Judge has a really mandatory obligation to follow clear precedent by the Supreme Court. Then the other side can appeal. That is the appropriate path to get the issue back before the Appellate Courts.

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Well, a Texas Judge has already struck down a Fed Law permitting Teens access to Contraception wo parental consent. This Texas Judge’s ruling is in direct violation, no wiggle room, to the Supreme Court case Carey v. Population Services International that declared minors have a right to contraception wo parental consent.

Parents should be involved in all medical decisions for under age minor children!

I know a couple of women who were abused as children by family members who STRONGLY disagree with you.

Yep, pretty much everyone knows some extreme outlier.....

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You are pretty naive if you think sexual abuse within the family is an extreme outlier. Common as cat shit.

Caligula had it off with all his sisters in Roman times!

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Caligula had it off with all his sisters in Roman times!

It's the USA's fault!

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Well, a Texas Judge has already struck down a Fed Law permitting Teens access to Contraception wo parental consent.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Well, a Texas Judge has already struck down a Fed Law permitting Teens access to Contraception E wo parental conse wo parental consent.

Of course you are supporting this, something you said would never happen. The culture war must continue!

More utter stupidity.

And when the teen birth rates skyrocket you will blame the liberals.

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Now, Texas Judge has done it again striking Down provisions of the Affordable Care Act

Hopefully…eventually…that whole terrible act will be ridded from our country so that maybe…just maybe…the healthcare industry can regain some sanity.

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Well, a Texas Judge has already struck down a Fed Law permitting Teens access to Contraception E wo parental conse wo parental consent.

Of course you are supporting this, something you said would never happen. The culture war must continue!

More utter stupidity.

And when the teen birth rates skyrocket you will blame the liberals.

I NEVER said that^^^wouldn’t happen. That was appalling to begin with.

I stated that contraception for adults and teens with parental consent would never be made illegal.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Well, a Texas Judge has already struck down a Fed Law permitting Teens access to Contraception E wo parental conse wo parental consent.

Of course you are supporting this, something you said would never happen. The culture war must continue!

More utter stupidity.

And when the teen birth rates skyrocket you will blame the liberals.

I NEVER said that^^^wouldn’t happen. That was appalling to begin with.

I stated that contraception for adults and teens with parental consent would never be made illegal.

What is appalling is your culture war.

It takes 2 to tango.

IE: There are two sides in every conflict.

My side did not draw first blood but hopefully we will continue to fight back…because when sanity fails to prevail…it is all over.

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Well, a Texas Judge has already struck down a Fed Law permitting Teens access to Contraception E wo parental conse wo parental consent.

Of course you are supporting this, something you said would never happen. The culture war must continue!

More utter stupidity.

And when the teen birth rates skyrocket you will blame the liberals.

I NEVER said that^^^wouldn’t happen. That was appalling to begin with.

I stated that contraception for adults and teens with parental consent would never be made illegal.

What is appalling is your culture war.

I'm afraid the culture war was started by your side 60 years ago. And people are finally getting to see the results and are fighting back.

Pathetic that you are trying to push your puritanical views on the whole country.

Pushback indeed. Did you see the redwave in 2022? You are fighting a war you lost decades ago. The vast majority of America has zero appetite for this puritanical bullshit.

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Well, a Texas Judge has already struck down a Fed Law permitting Teens access to Contraception E wo parental conse wo parental consent.

Of course you are supporting this, something you said would never happen. The culture war must continue!

More utter stupidity.

And when the teen birth rates skyrocket you will blame the liberals.

I NEVER said that^^^wouldn’t happen. That was appalling to begin with.

I stated that contraception for adults and teens with parental consent would never be made illegal.

What is appalling is your culture war.

I'm afraid the culture war was started by your side 60 years ago. And people are finally getting to see the results and are fighting back.

Exactly

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Originally posted by skb:
Pathetic that you are trying to push your puritanical views on the whole country.

Pushback indeed. Did you see the redwave in 2022? You are fighting a war you lost decades ago. The vast majority of America has zero appetite for this puritanical bullshit.

Pushback???

That is what I do.

Puritanical? Is that a joke? How about some sanity and moral decency.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:
Pathetic that you are trying to push your puritanical views on the whole country.

Pushback indeed. Did you see the redwave in 2022? You are fighting a war you lost decades ago. The vast majority of America has zero appetite for this puritanical bullshit.

Pushback???

That is what I do.

Puritanical? Is that a joke? How about some sanity and moral decency.

Moral decency...from the religious right? Now that is a good joke.

Teens have been screwing for hundreds of thousands of years, this will not stop them.

Moral decency my ass....

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:
Pathetic that you are trying to push your puritanical views on the whole country.

Pushback indeed. Did you see the redwave in 2022? You are fighting a war you lost decades ago. The vast majority of America has zero appetite for this puritanical bullshit.

Pushback???

That is what I do.

Puritanical? Is that a joke? How about some sanity and moral decency.

Like both Boebert and her son having children out of wedlock?

Like Trump raping women and boasting about it on national TV.

Like denying women their rights?

Your ilk has no moral decency my friend.

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Well, a Texas Judge has already struck down a Fed Law permitting Teens access to Contraception E wo parental conse wo parental consent.

Of course you are supporting this, something you said would never happen. The culture war must continue!

More utter stupidity.

And when the teen birth rates skyrocket you will blame the liberals.

I NEVER said that^^^wouldn’t happen. That was appalling to begin with.

I stated that contraception for adults and teens with parental consent would never be made illegal.

What is appalling is your culture war.

What is truly appalling is people like ‘you’ sitting back and allowing our country to get in such shape.

Or people line you, creating a situation where a good number of young women will end up bearing the children of their abusers??

Not the kind of morales I believe in Lane.

Those kind of morales are repugnant.

And a Fed Judge in Texas had taken access to birth control away from adults.

And if privacy right allowing access to birth control for juveniles can be stepped, it can die adults.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Now, Texas Judge has done it again striking Down provisions of the Affordable Care Act

Hopefully…eventually…that whole terrible act will be ridded from our country so that maybe…just maybe…the healthcare industry can regain some sanity.

Do you think it will? What does sanity look like, in 2023?

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And a Fed Judge in Texas had taken access to birth control away from adults.

And if privacy right allowing access to birth control for juveniles can be stepped, it can die adults.

Baloney.

Any adult in Texas can go to a Dr. and get a prescription for any type birth control.

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Or people line you, creating a situation where a good number of young women will end up bearing the children of their abusers??

I just don’t believe that is the case.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:
Or people line you, creating a situation where a good number of young women will end up bearing the children of their abusers??

I just don’t believe that is the case.

Well, you do live in a fantasy world......

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Hopefully…eventually…that whole terrible act will be ridded from our country so that maybe…just maybe…the healthcare industry can regain some sanity.

What "sanity" did the health care industry have before AHCA? 45 million people with zero coverage and insurance companies denying claims as a standard practice. After AHCA was passed you couldn't find a single republican governor who actually wanted it gone, lip service or not.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
And a Fed Judge in Texas had taken access to birth control away from adults.

And if privacy right allowing access to birth control for juveniles can be stepped, it can die adults.

Baloney.

Any adult in Texas can go to a Dr. and get a prescription for any type birth control.

No, if you cannot get it covered, you do not get access that is what the other case does.

Huh?

Are you saying that a person cannot go to a doctor, pay cash for the visit, and then pay cash for their prescription in Texas (or any other state?)

If so, we have REALLY lost the plot.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
And a Fed Judge in Texas had taken access to birth control away from adults.

And if privacy right allowing access to birth control for juveniles can be stepped, it can die adults.

Baloney.

Any adult in Texas can go to a Dr. and get a prescription for any type birth control.

No, if you cannot get it covered, you do not get access that is what the other case does.

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Originally posted by crbutler:
Huh?

Are you saying that a person cannot go to a doctor, pay cash for the visit, and then pay cash for their prescription in Texas (or any other state?)

If so, we have REALLY lost the plot.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
And a Fed Judge in Texas had taken access to birth control away from adults.

And if privacy right allowing access to birth control for juveniles can be stepped, it can die adults.

Baloney.

Any adult in Texas can go to a Dr. and get a prescription for any type birth control.

No, if you cannot get it covered, you do not get access that is what the other case does.

Of course they can Dr. Butler.

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:
Or people line you, creating a situation where a good number of young women will end up bearing the children of their abusers??

I just don’t believe that is the case.

Well, you do live in a fantasy world......

Actually…I live more in the real world than most here.

I operate multi businesses. I employ a lot of people. I built all of my businesses from the ground up without a pot to piss in upon graduating from college — with a large debt which I managed to pay off expediently by working my ass off.

All of the above while becoming a board-certified equine orthopedic surgeon and rising to the top of my professional field.

You my friend live in the fantasy world. My life is operated on facts dictated by science and economics.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:
Or people line you, creating a situation where a good number of young women will end up bearing the children of their abusers??

I just don’t believe that is the case.

Well, you do live in a fantasy world......

Actually…I live more in the real world than most here.

I operate multi businesses. I employ a lot of people. I built all of my businesses from the ground up without a pot to piss in upon graduating from college — with a large debt which I managed to pay off expediently by working my ass off.

All of the above while becoming a board-certified equine orthopedic surgeon and rising to the top of my professional field.

You my friend live in the fantasy world. My life is operated on facts dictated by science and economics.

I'm sure that will matter to a young lady who is being abused by a family member and unable to access contraception.

Self important much?

My diagnosis is that the good Doctor has no sense of reality.

Moral decency......right, and I'm the Pope.

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:
Or people line you, creating a situation where a good number of young women will end up bearing the children of their abusers??

I just don’t believe that is the case.

Well, you do live in a fantasy world......

Actually…I live more in the real world than most here.

I operate multi businesses. I employ a lot of people. I built all of my businesses from the ground up without a pot to piss in upon graduating from college — with a large debt which I managed to pay off expediently by working my ass off.

All of the above while becoming a board-certified equine orthopedic surgeon and rising to the top of my professional field.

You my friend live in the fantasy world. My life is operated on facts dictated by science and economics.

I'm sure that will matter to a young lady who is being abused by a family member and unable to access contraception.

Self important much?

My diagnosis is that the good Doctor has no sense of reality.

Moral decency......right, and I'm the Pope.

You and reality don’t belong in the same statement.

I on the other hand…sit on a school board as well as other boards and am very active in my community as well as local, state, and national politics in my neck of the woods.

My community locally, politically, and professionally knows me and I them. We all work well together.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:
Or people line you, creating a situation where a good number of young women will end up bearing the children of their abusers??

I just don’t believe that is the case.

Well, you do live in a fantasy world......

Actually…I live more in the real world than most here.

I operate multi businesses. I employ a lot of people. I built all of my businesses from the ground up without a pot to piss in upon graduating from college — with a large debt which I managed to pay off expediently by working my ass off.

All of the above while becoming a board-certified equine orthopedic surgeon and rising to the top of my professional field.

You my friend live in the fantasy world. My life is operated on facts dictated by science and economics.

I'm sure that will matter to a young lady who is being abused by a family member and unable to access contraception.

Self important much?

My diagnosis is that the good Doctor has no sense of reality.

Moral decency......right, and I'm the Pope.

You and reality don’t belong in the same statement.

I on the other hand…sit on a school board as well as other boards and am very active in my community as well as local, state, and national politics in my neck of the woods.

My community locally, politically, and professionally knows me and I them. We all work well together.

You know what is best for everybody.

Sounds about right.

Self-important as they come.

It is rare to meet someone with such a high opinion of themselves as you have Lane, humble you are not. Well, there is Trump.....

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:
Or people line you, creating a situation where a good number of young women will end up bearing the children of their abusers??

I just don’t believe that is the case.

Well, you do live in a fantasy world......

Actually…I live more in the real world than most here.

I operate multi businesses. I employ a lot of people. I built all of my businesses from the ground up without a pot to piss in upon graduating from college — with a large debt which I managed to pay off expediently by working my ass off.

All of the above while becoming a board-certified equine orthopedic surgeon and rising to the top of my professional field.

You my friend live in the fantasy world. My life is operated on facts dictated by science and economics.

I'm sure that will matter to a young lady who is being abused by a family member and unable to access contraception.

Self important much?

My diagnosis is that the good Doctor has no sense of reality.

Moral decency......right, and I'm the Pope.

You and reality don’t belong in the same statement.

I on the other hand…sit on a school board as well as other boards and am very active in my community as well as local, state, and national politics in my neck of the woods.

My community locally, politically, and professionally knows me and I them. We all work well together.

You know what is best for everybody.

Sounds about right.

Self-important as they come.

It is rare to meet someone with such a high opinion of themselves as you have Lane, humble you are not. Well, there is Trump.....

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How about some sanity and moral decency.

You shouldn't use words you don't understand, like "sanity" and "moral decency." You can make a joke of yourself like that.

If you claim to value sanity and moral decency, why do support Trump? End of story. There so much hypocrisy and bull-headed stupidity in the answer to that question.

I don't think you're natively stupid--I think you're being driven to stupidity by fear. You're afraid of one thing essentially: change. You've made it clear you want to turn the clock back to the '50s and '60s, before the civil rights era. A great time to be alive for white people, especially white bigots. (No black presidents). No so good for anyone else.