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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
this is one of the DUMBEST things Trump had ever argued -

Here's the text of the POTUS oath

Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:— "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

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Section 3
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
this is one of the DUMBEST things Trump had ever argued -

Here's the text of the POTUS oath

Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:— "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
this is one of the DUMBEST things Trump had ever argued -

Here's the text of the POTUS oath

Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:— "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Yep! Slo joe swore the same oath......and yet our border is wide open....


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apprehensions

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
this is one of the DUMBEST things Trump had ever argued -

Here's the text of the POTUS oath

Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:— "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Yep! Slo joe swore the same oath......and yet our border is wide open....


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Strange that apprehensions have gone WAY up under "Slo Joe"...

Link

Almost like the border isn't "wide open".

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

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apprehensions

Funny that you use that word.

BTW, the link you posted has a pop-up requesting permission for cookies. I didn't click on it, but I think I know what it shows.

"Apprehensions" means arrests in your context..

But it has other meanings/definitions:

1. suspicion or fear especially of future evil : foreboding

2. the act or power of perceiving or comprehending something
the result of apprehending something mentally : conception

So, a deficiency in #2 will result in #1. That explains JTEX very well.

It also works the other way around. Acute, accurate perception, comprehension, based on facts and evidence is exactly why people like JTEX trigger #1 in rational people.

It's only logical.

That little mind puzzle to start the day is probably over JTEX's head.

He'll probably understand this: Every time I see one of his posts I think of it as a #1 dump in cyberspace, and there's plenty more where that came from.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Well, I do not see the Judge adjudicating President Trump guilty of the crime of insurrection. I am not sure that Congress has passed a Fed Act so defining, penalizing “insurrection” as a crime.

The Judge has opined that President Trump actions appear to fit the meaning of insurrection under the 14th Amendment.

That is a far cry from ruling he has committed a crime. In fact, we could go into all the reasons we know that has not happened.

The Judge even says do in the opinion stating it is for Congress to address.

The reason this matter has started out in state court is because it is a question of the Constitution applied to a state matter being election qualification in Colorado.

I can cite the controlling precedent, if anyone wishes that no body reads, but state remedies must be exhausted before the Federal Courts become open to these types of constitutional challenges. A major exception that has evolved from this since I graduated law school is this business of running to Fed Courts not to adjudicate the issues, but to enjoin the state court action while the matter works it way through the courts.

The sad state of affairs is President Trumps has made it necessary to codified the President’s oath, an oath o read as more onerous upon the taker than the oath taken by other Fed government officials, into the Federal Penal Code.

I do not believe absent evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that President Trump conspired w the Proud Boys snd Oath Keepers plans that he has committed the act of treason or sedition.

I believe he failed to defend the Constitution, the Election, Congress as a body, and the General Government. Absent the oath being codified in a penal code. Those are political sins. The answer was to impeach him in the House and convict in the Senate.

The GOP failed in its duty to so expunge this man because they fear his base at the polls. They all need to be defeated in the market place of ideas and ballot box.

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By the way, what you complain about is a misdemeanor undrr current Federal Law.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Well, I do not see the Judge adjudicating President Trump guilty of the crime of insurrection. I am not sure that Congress has passed a Fed Act so defining, penalizing “insurrection” as a crime.

The Judge has opined that President Trump actions appear to fit the meaning of insurrection under the 14th Amendment.

That is a far cry from ruling he has committed a crime. In fact, we could go into all the reasons we know that has not happened.

The Judge even says do in the opinion stating it is for Congress to address.

The reason this matter has started out in state court is because it is a question of the Constitution applied to a state matter being election qualification in Colorado.

I can cite the controlling precedent, if anyone wishes that no body reads, but state remedies must be exhausted before the Federal Courts become open to these types of constitutional challenges. A major exception that has evolved from this since I graduated law school is this business of running to Fed Courts not to adjudicate the issues, but to enjoin the state court action while the matter works it way through the courts.

The sad state of affairs is President Trumps has made it necessary to codified the President’s oath, an oath o read as more onerous upon the taker than the oath taken by other Fed government officials, into the Federal Penal Code.

I do not believe absent evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that President Trump conspired w the Proud Boys snd Oath Keepers plans that he has committed the act of treason or sedition.

I believe he failed to defend the Constitution, the Election, Congress as a body, and the General Government. Absent the oath being codified in a penal code. Those are political sins. The answer was to impeach him in the House and convict in the Senate.

The GOP failed in its duty to so expunge this man because they fear his base at the polls. They all need to be defeated in the market place of ideas and ballot box.