And Dr. Easter says no citizens are harmed do due process rights and checks and balances required by the Constitution as amended shot not matter.

Well, we are now deporting US citizens.

https://www.politico.com/news/...onald-trump-00311631

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna203124

Trump should be removed from office via impeachment immediately.


Oh yes, you fools that would allow the Executive to destroy citizenship via fb executive order. This child was as much a IS Citizen as anyone from Texas and myself.

Just when you think Trump can't go any lower....he does.

What a complete POS.

Well, he did say “home grown are next”.

Haven’t you seen how some 2 year olds behave?

Would you support not allowing the little girl to remain with her mother and sister?

OK, That was funny tumbleweed!

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Would you support not allowing the little girl to remain with her mother and sister?

I support her father having a chance to assert her citizenship. Her mother cannot make that decision in a vacuum with federal agents taking mother away.

You are in Hell and do not even recognize it.

The little girl is a US Citizen. Her mother has no legal representation. Her father is a U.S. Citizen. Everyone has a right to have this adjudicated in court, with counsel (including a GAL for the minor), and both parents legal custody asserted.

I support deporting all deportable aliens. I certainly support a 2 year old girl being left with her mother and her sister.

I support US citizens not being removed. I support a dispute be a non citizen mother and citizen father concerning citizen daughter being adjudicated in court beaten the parents.

I do not support fed agents bring the only contact to make the decision in a matter of minutes.

You are in Hell morally, intellectually, and legally.

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Originally posted by ledvm:
I support deporting all deportable aliens. I certainly support a 2 year old girl being left with her mother and her sister.

There are acts that are at once legal and wrong.
I think this may be one of them.

Mom said she wanted to take the girl with her, in a hand written note, in spanish - Dad wasn't present.

Dad can always file for custody.

Some folks will deny a parent's rights just to feel good - Mom wanted her baby -- what was ICE supposed to do? family separation? rip a 2 year old from her mother's arms?

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Mom said she wanted to take the girl with her, in a hand written note, in spanish - Dad wasn't present.

Dad can always file for custody.

Some folks will deny a parent's rights just to feel good - Mom wanted her baby -- what was ICE supposed to do? family separation? rip a 2 year old from her mother's arms?

Went just as it should have.

Lane,
It's always amazing to me, when people from other states that have lower population than TX has illegals, offers to opine on the illegals problem - There's more illegals in some square miles of Houston than were sent to NYC, but in NYC, they are a problem and a drain on economics - but when the problem, with it's consequences, are handled, they skyscream -- must be exhausting

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Originally posted by ledvm:
I support deporting all deportable aliens. I certainly support a 2 year old girl being left with her mother and her sister.

You would support deporting your own mother if Trump said it was a good idea

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Lane,
It's always amazing to me, when people from other states that have lower population than TX has illegals, offers to opine on the illegals problem - There's more illegals in some square miles of Houston than were sent to NYC, but in NYC, they are a problem and a drain on economics - but when the problem, with it's consequences, are handled, they skyscream -- must be exhausting

Agreed

Question is, was her father contacted?

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Lane,
It's always amazing to me, when people from other states that have lower population than TX has illegals, offers to opine on the illegals problem - There's more illegals in some square miles of Houston than were sent to NYC, but in NYC, they are a problem and a drain on economics - but when the problem, with it's consequences, are handled, they skyscream -- must be exhausting

Agreed

Yawn, has zero to go with this Citizen grind removed from the United States so any regard for their citizenship nor her citizen father.

The above has zero to do with the fact the mother was forced to make a decision on hours so representation in custody of the Feds.

It amazes me how the Texas contingent, all of you, line up to give the Executive power it does not constitutionally hold. The law, the courts, folks constitutional rights be damned.

M Shy: The father was actively trying to get into court. They is why their is a court case.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Mom said she wanted to take the girl with her, in a hand written note, in spanish - Dad wasn't present.

Dad can always file for custody.

Some folks will deny a parent's rights just to feel good - Mom wanted her baby -- what was ICE supposed to do? family separation? rip a 2 year old from her mother's arms?

Went just as it should have.

No it did not.

Biden and the Dems let illegals (dangerous ones at that) run roughshod over Texas and me personally for 4 years.

Trump shut it down easily in a matter of weeks.

I will never forget what the Democrats did. I will never get over it. And I will fight with all my resources to keep them out of power and illegals out (and in-country ones deported).

Right now, that means supporting President Trump.

Your responses are their own rebuttal.

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Would you support not allowing the little girl to remain with her mother and sister?

Her father is here dirtbag!

I suppose the mother was also a gang member; that's why she didn't get due process but was just whisked away like human garbage.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
I suppose the mother was also a gang member; that's why she didn't get due process but was just whisked away like human garbage.

oh, little jimmy, it would have cost you NOTHING to not make up garbage, now, wouldn't it?

that's YOUR strawman .. if you get mad about it, go assault the author

oh, that's right, you can't stand being PROVEN wrong, REPEATEDLY, and have me on ignore -- such a man

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Biden and the Dems let illegals (dangerous ones at that) run roughshod over Texas and me personally for 4 years.

Trump shut it down easily in a matter of weeks.

I will never forget what the Democrats did. I will never get over it. And I will fight with all my resources to keep them out of power and illegals out (and in-country ones deported).

Right now, that means supporting President Trump.

Exactly how I feel
Biden was and is a dirtbag for allowing southern border to become our national nightmare
Again, you come here illegally you get to hell out any which way and this due process is nuts because we don’t have enough courts and judges to cover it for decades for all the illegals so maybe all the judges fighting Trump should be rerouted to due process courts and if you allow all them illegals to stay here, they ( those judges ) should house them and feed them for 5 years from their own salaries

i expect libbies will be screaming at the sky over arresting "nearly" 800 illegals in FLA -

oh, i am quoting fox. Why, do you ask? You mean it's not on lefty media?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/nea...operation-tidal-wave

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Originally posted by 300shooter:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Would you support not allowing the little girl to remain with her mother and sister?

Her father is here dirtbag!

Little girl belongs with her momma and sisters. Her momma wanted her…enough said.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by 300shooter:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Would you support not allowing the little girl to remain with her mother and sister?

Her father is here dirtbag!

Little girl belongs with her momma and sisters. Her momma wanted her…enough said.

Deporting US citizens is simply disgusting...just like Trump. What a POS.

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by 300shooter:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Would you support not allowing the little girl to remain with her mother and sister?

Her father is here dirtbag!

Little girl belongs with her momma and sisters. Her momma wanted her…enough said.

Deporting US citizens is simply disgusting...just like Trump. What a POS.

Would you strip her away from her mother and her sisters?

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by 300shooter:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Would you support not allowing the little girl to remain with her mother and sister?

Her father is here dirtbag!

Little girl belongs with her momma and sisters. Her momma wanted her…enough said.

Deporting US citizens is simply disgusting...just like Trump. What a POS.

Would you strip her away from her mother and her sisters?

Why deport the mother??

Isn’t a US citizen allowed to sponsor her family to become citizens?

No excuse whatsoever for this.

Deporting criminals is great!

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by 300shooter:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Would you support not allowing the little girl to remain with her mother and sister?

Her father is here dirtbag!

Little girl belongs with her momma and sisters. Her momma wanted her…enough said.

Deporting US citizens is simply disgusting...just like Trump. What a POS.

Would you strip her away from her mother and her sisters?

I would show some empathy and due process, father's have rights as well.

Trump is a POS.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by 300shooter:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Would you support not allowing the little girl to remain with her mother and sister?

Her father is here dirtbag!

Little girl belongs with her momma and sisters. Her momma wanted her…enough said.

Deporting US citizens is simply disgusting...just like Trump. What a POS.

Would you strip her away from her mother and her sisters?

No. I'd like to think I'd walk away and find something else to do with my morning...

https://apple.news/AyVq00wF_Q-2zMyPC7ADNRQ

They’d ate actually 2 YS citizen children. The Administration has chosen to debt. Thst is not going to go over well with the Court.

The Judge is clear it happened in the 2 year old case.

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Originally posted by TomP:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by 300shooter:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Would you support not allowing the little girl to remain with her mother and sister?

Her father is here dirtbag!

Little girl belongs with her momma and sisters. Her momma wanted her…enough said.

Deporting US citizens is simply disgusting...just like Trump. What a POS.

Would you strip her away from her mother and her sisters?

No. I'd like to think I'd walk away and find something else to do with my morning...

Hence the reason nothing ever got done. Today, we have doers.

As Pompey said after Sulla deposed the Republic, “Do not speak of law, to men with swords.”

When the result is reached against prescribed law, the result is invalid.

The term deported is currently trending for the Liberals only because it suits the occasion.

This 2 year old infant was reunited (is the proper term) with her mother because any court of law will always grant custody of an infant to its mother unless the mother is deemed unfit to raise the child.

What happens later once the child has attained an age to be considered eligible for parental custody is another matter for the court to decide.

So is the child being deported or is she just going with her mother to Mexico?

Is she being denied the right to stay in the US if she desires and is able to express it?

I’m all for her father filing for custody and having his daughter stay with him. Otherwise, isn’t this essentially like shared custody where mom has the kid at times in a different jurisdiction than the legal judgement is made?

I presume that the father and mother are not married.

The left needs to make up its mind… either we don’t separate parents from children, or we do.

If dad is not married to mom, then mom getting deported and taking the kid with her is not too problematic to me, as long as the daughter is not prohibited from being here.

As no one is going on about due process being violated here, it’s like any other dual citizen going from one country to another.

She was removed from this nation, without the consent or knowledge of her father who has as much legal right to the child as the mother until a court says otherwise.

Unless it’s changed recently, a child born out of wedlock in Georgia is conclusive presumed to be solely in the custody of the mother. While the father may have inchoate rights, he must establish them de juris or have effectively have none at all. Interestingly, he does have the duty of child support but no rights to visitation, etc. The father’s identity and parental status/rights can be presumed, however, by a claim and acknowledgment by the father (with the mother’s consent) on the birth certificate. I don’t think that’s a rare law. The report you posted says the child was born out of wedlock in Louisiana. That state has a similar law to Georgia’s.

Of course, the identity of the mother is obvious while the father’s identity can be disputed. The child here is two years-old, I believe… giving the punitive father plenty of time to establish his parental status. Did he do so, or did he let it slide until a crisis occurred.
I wonder. In any event, there’s no free lunch.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
She was removed from this nation, without the consent or knowledge of her father who has as much legal right to the child as the mother until a court says otherwise.

Fascinating of all the silly excuse THE MAGA FUCKWIT cheerleaders are making!

US CITIZEN.

PERIOD!

DEPORTED ILLEGALLY!

As the status of birthright citizenship currently exists (subject, perhaps to the “jurisdiction” claims/exceptions), the child is a U.S. citizen. The U.S. citizen child was not deported. The mother of the child had the option to take the child with her or leave the child with its father (who unfortunately had not established parental rights to date even though he’s had two years to do so). The mother, not the MAGA FUCKWIT, chose to take her U.S. citizen child with her. Does annyone deny that she had the right to do so if the father had never established parental identity and rights? And did she not have two other children who were not US citizens, both of which went with her back to Guatemala?

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Fascinating of all the silly excuse THE MAGA FUCKWIT cheerleaders are making!

US CITOZEN.

PERIOD!

DEPORTED ILLEGALLY!

Well, that and a harder read of the posted articles, changes everything
The mother was not married to the father..

Father had not been present in child's life, in the least

Since unmarried to each other, mother had sole custody

NBC article states father began attempts to gain custody

Mother was sole custodian and father was unknown to child

Side note, father couldn't be bothered to travel an unknown distance(not even his name is given, nor location nor background) and tried to nominate and unknown to child 3rd party as his "agent"

So, father had no custody, has chosen by action not to assert parental rights, and is unknown to the child

And the mother had sole custody

And some folks wanted to strip the child from her mother, create new rights for an unmarried absent father, traumatized the child and go against the sole custodian THE MOTHERs wishes, just to satisfy their own selfish wishes.

There appears to be only a genetic, not familial relationship between father and child AND the father was content with the situation

I'll stick with my first post on the matter...

Allow me to restate

Momma's baby, poppa's maybe