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Border Czar! Tom Holman is the man!!!!! Kamala, was, and will remain, A joke! | ||
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Defying our Constitution as applied by the S. Ct., does not make one a msn. It makes one part of a tyrannical regime. You have never answered how many undocumented migrants you employed or sub-contracted when you worked in construction. I doubt you will now. We give you slack because you only did what you had to make a living. President Bush and President Regan were understanding of your plight. I will be also in honor of that conservative viewpoint. | |||
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Not as much as THE MAGA FUCKWIT and his South African boyfriend!  | |||
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Dipshit! I have always answered! You and lil mikey just don't like my answer.... None, zero, not a one!!!! I did exactly what I had to do to make a living! Run an honest business with well qualified employees that had a good reason to make the company profitable and efficient. And then there is you....A government employee....leeching off the American taxpayer..... | |||
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See that was not so hard. Zero it is. I’ll leave with President Regan’s position: It is audio. Therefore, you do not have to read. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dNBflfuOeeM I agree with President Regan. I hate to see such a strong, conservative as yourself disapprove of President Regan’s position. | |||
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Yeah, I really like the Trump admins border work. Sure and of course if a law is broken there should be a firm check but if not, full speed ahead and damn the torpedos. I've seen Jtex mention several times that he didn't hire illegals. In my construction experience trades like electricians and plumbers aren't filled as much with migrant workers as are roofing, concrete and drywall. I have no reason to think Jtex would be dishonest on this topic or anything other. | |||
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Again, damning the torpedoes is not permitted under our laws. One must follow the rules to muck with folks. The rules are not being followed by the Executive. Between the state and people, the state must use good means to the ends. This S. Ct., majority, like every majority before it they has touched this question, has stayed due process rights apply. Besides that, President Regan gives the outline of a real solution. This is not. I accept his answer as it relates to his business. I reject his view of undocumented migrants as a whole and Thor usefulness to our society in general. I’ll stand w President Regan on that. | |||
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And again, if a law is broken there should be a firm check. Can you read? President Reagan wasn't wrong about anything in the 1980's, but that was 40 some years ago don't you think? In 21st century America how do you think Reagan would have handled Haiti and Mexican Drug Cartels? I can give you a hint, Reagan sent Airborne to visit Noreiga in Panama. Again your need to argue seems to blind you. | |||
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Don't forget Grenada. Reagan was fond of weak targets. | |||
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All I can say is my property went from a dangerous s**t-hole to being able to be used for fun again…almost at the blink of an eye. Tom Holman and President Trump  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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I'll second that, Doc! | |||
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Well, you'd be wrong about that, at least in Texas. The folks that work in the trades in construction here that require licensure are typically citizens. The folks that work as their helpers typically are not. The reality is that JTex, his squawking and whining to the contrary, made his living working on Texas construction sites that have contractors who employ lots of undocumented workers. Anybody that denies this is either a liar or has no experience in the construction industry in Texas. I've worked many many cases involving injuries and deaths on construction sights, commercial and residential. I've seen literally dozens of instances where a subcontractor, after executing a subcontract with the GC, farms out the whole job to crews made up largely or entirely of undocumented workers. This is not the exception. It is the rule. Especially in the trades you mention Scott: roofing, utilities, concrete work, framing, etc. I sued an electrical contractor a few years back where an undocumented helper was electrocuted because lock-out/tag-out procedures were completely ignored by the electrical subcontractor's sub-subcontractor who had been hired to do the work the sub contracted with the GC to do. The reason was because literally no safety training had been provided or documented to have been provided to the workers. The reality is that you can walk onto any commercial or residential construction site in Texas and that site will be filled with undocumented workers. They work cheap and thereby increase the profit margins for the subcontractors. That is reality. And poor dumb Jim can deny it until the cows come home but he knows I am correct. | |||
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No! You aren't! Residential yes, commercial? No. | |||
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I won't argue with you, I'm not familiar with Texas other than my week in South Padre, (pretty cool!) I've been corresponding for years with Jtex and certainly more than a couple with you and I'm of the opinion that you and he are honest. If J says he didn't employ illegals I believe him. That others have and do is fine, but I don't think either of of have any reason to question J's honesty. | |||
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What I infer from MM is that Jtex can honestly say he did not employ undocumented, illegal workers. However, had Jtex contracted sub-contractors, Jtex would know those subcontractors were using undocumented, illegal workers. That this practice was so widespread, Jtex would not be able to engage subcontractors that did not use undocumented, illegal workers. That this practice benefited Jtex bottom line. That is what I read, MM stating. That has not been responded to by Jtex. That would be a different fact pattern than what I asked. | |||
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You argue for the pure joy of arguing. That ain't bad, but,......Dude. | |||
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Would that be like an illegal immigrant twice removed? Give me a home where the buffalo roam and I'll show you a house full of buffalo shit. | |||
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I’m not arguing for the joy of it. I’m explaining MM critique. If I’m wrong MM will correct me. Nothing exists in a vacuum. Now, Jtex disputes MM’s assertion la as they relate to commercial. Okay, that assumes Jtex work was pure commercial and commercial did not engage subcontractors that employed undocumented, migrant workers. Again, MM is stating general contractors, the assumption is Jtex was a general contractor, had to engage subs he knew or should know were using undocumented, illegal workers. A reactive thst made Jtex bottom line better. A practice given the nature of the industry they could not be avoided. In that scenario both individuals could be telling the truth. One is not exclusive to the other. So, let us ask, did Jtex engage subcontractors he knew or reasonably believed to be using undocumented, illegal labor. In our road construction business undocumented w was not possible due to union issues. However, we would subcontract out Minsk task like taking down fences or clearing undergrowth. Those suns could have used undocumented, illegal labor. If we want to stop undocumented, illegal workers we are going to have to break the industry sectors that employ them. The cost benefit analysis for some is not their. Much like the tariff issue. The harm is worse than the argued measures. Again, I agree with President Regan on this issue. Others do not. | |||
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I'm under the impression that J was an electric contractor specifically in the oil industry. I may well could be wrong and it's getting pretty silly that you and I and others are arguing Jtex history. Jtex, obviously you are important to several of us here well beyond your imagination. You and MM as well as LHeym make sure and fasten your seatbelts in the morning, please stay current on your prescriptions and by all means do try to manage your carb intake. It's no longer a question, you three and others are needed here on the PF. | |||
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Thanks Scott. Little lord fontleroy, is like most lefties, he knows soooo much, that just isn't true.....and what he doesn't know? Well he just assumes it, to meet his agenda. Like proof reading his own posts....he's just too important for that, us lessor mortals just need to interpret his jibberish..... I was a "subcontractor". Electrical, commercial and light industrial. I can guarantee that I was on many more job sites than lil mikey in my 30 years in the construction industry. His experience, being a lawyer was with people that where in trouble so its easy to see his bias and limited experience. Usually people that get in trouble take shortcuts..... Hiring illegals, inadequate training on safety and craft.....inadequate supervision, that sort of thing. Yes I was at times on jobs where there were many illegals, mostly in the trades you mentioned. I took calling ICE and OSHA for inspections as a responsibilty. They where a safety hazard, the illegals.....to my employees! There typical lack of safety training and lack of ability to speak or understand English didn't allow them to understand or effectively communicate hazards put safety in jeopardy for all on site. | |||
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My unimportant opinion of JTEX just went up two points. That, and $4 at Starbucks... TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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That is heym to a T jtex. He assumes he is an expert in everything. | |||
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It is......sadly he's to dumb to even know what he doesn't know....ah the arrogance of youth and ignorance  | |||
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Kind of you Tom. . | |||
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So in your opinion JTex is responsible for vetting the legal status of a sub-contractor's workforce to determine who is legit or would that scrutiny fall under ICE and/or possibly the IRS? | |||
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Why couldn't he make the sub agree, when he lets the subcontract, that only citizens and legal residents may work on the project? Make the project owner responsible by statute to require such clause in the prime construction contract, and pass through the responsibility to the subs and suppliers. I've reviewed lots of construction contracts, and don't recall seeing such a clause. It might be illegal under the law of some states, but if there's a problem under federal law, I'm missing it. | |||
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Wow, little Jimmie, it's like a regional thing, maybe? I am unaware that alaska is a vast pool of illegal aliens. You mean little "all laws and regulations " or the superceding federal laws like an i9, or are you entirely unaware of s 1099 "employee" that none of that matters? Little Jimmie runs around, after seeing the elephant, grumbling that "there ain't no such animal" Jtex has laid out his area of work, which requires licenses and his work ethic, which requires all his employees to be legal. That's his practice. Do illegals lie snd present false papers, and some times make it through? Yeah. But, to soft handed men, that doesn't know a klien from a Pittsburgh tool, it all looks the same from the office. Ask the TSA about hiring hundreds of illegals? opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Post some pics or a video of all of this damage that they caused. Give me a home where the buffalo roam and I'll show you a house full of buffalo shit. | |||
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Even all the way out here in Timbuktu I'm well aware of the mess in the southern border, what else needs to be proven to you? I feel very comfortable taking Docs word on this. | |||
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The first video is from the Center for Immigration Studies in 2009, the year after the Sinaloa Cartel took over in Estado Libre y Soberano de Sonora. The second video is from the ABC Tucson affiliate and fast forwards 15 years to a ranch on the border in Central AZ. Keep in mind both these videos are from directly in the middle of the most heavily traveled drug corridor on the Southern border. As you might well imagine, the situation had not improved in the intervening decade and a half. '09-'24 | |||
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For as many times as he's mentioned it I thought he could post a pic or 2 of how trashy it got. As an aside he also appears to be tight with someone whose old man is POUS so maybe get some assistance getting it cleaned up. Maybe some of these migrants could be out cleaning up their messes as part of the cost of keeping them until their fate is decided. Give me a home where the buffalo roam and I'll show you a house full of buffalo shit. | |||
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I watched some ariel footage of the border under Biden. People waiting to get their number called to come in. Trash everywhere. Two black fellows with plastic grocery bags were walking along the border fence, picking up trash, diapers etc. Tie off a bag, start on another, in and around all the people tossing trash. If I could have, it would have been, " you two men, welcome to the USA" | |||
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I couldn't think of a better time to reinstitute FDR's depression-era Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC). And what a better place to start than in the Great Outdoors! They're not making anymore of it folks... . | |||
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He's exactly correct. I dont have any way of knowing if Jim employed undocumented workers or not. But, I do know he made his living in an industry that relies on undocumented workers for its existence. | |||
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There are undocumented workers in both industries. I worked a death case a few years ago where a jib crane collapsed during construction of a multi-story parking facility. Knocked the undocumented worker's head off. They found most of it down on the street. | |||
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So? Lil mikey? Did your mommy tell you that that made you special? Did she fix you some extra hotpockets??? . | |||
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Ok, let's you and me or more agree that Jtex's business was surrounded by corruption. That doesn't mean he was. That you two don't like each other and name call is just neato, but I think the two of us have no reason to question J's honesty. | |||
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I don't Know that I dislike lil mikey.....he is just soo certain of everything.....in an industry that he has "seen" from the edges... Now, the little lord? He's a selfrighteous, arrogant turd and a government employee.....I dont like him at all! | |||
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