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All it would take is for a few democrats to NOT vote their party line...... That ain't gonna happen..... . | |||
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I do not think you would like that deal. Committee chairs and equal members on committee is what I am hearing to get Dens to cross the isle. How about the 20 withdrawing since McCarthy has 202? That is what Hannity asked Boebart who refused to answer. Say what you want about Sen. McConnell. The 20 are in for a reckoning when he gets back to DC next week and this is still going on. The Dems picked their party leader already. | |||
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There is no reason to believe that would happen prior to this stupidity. Make no mistake their demands are stupid. He came 90 percent to them. McCarty gave them everything they wanted in the impeachment for Jan 6, and obstruction of Jan 6 Committee. The Faction do not want a Speaker. They do not want to try to govern. They want a show with them as the stars for fundraising. They want to be the tail wagging the dog. That is what it has always been about a minority fringe derailing and harming the Party. | |||
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Thank you. I doubt JTex would like that deal. | |||
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Sometimes you like the system…sometimes you don’t. Don’t get me wrong…I am guilty of the same. The difference is that you hold yourself out as purist…always trusting the system. Well, let the system play out. It is working as designed. McCarthy can’t get the votes (I wish we had McCarthy over Ryan last go round)…an honorable non-egotistical person would withdraw. If he can’t get the votes now…he will never get them on a bill. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Not from McCarty. The 20 move or cut a deal with Dems. You realize how stupid the 1 vote to bring a motion to vacate is. Anytime a price if legislation is up that has something Dems do not like. They can bring over 200 motions to vacate and force a vote. At worst, that is 200 voters that kills a bill from getting debated and past. The Faction is that stupid. | |||
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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This is all about those 20 bozos wanting to stop funding the Government and shut it down every chance they get. This happens every time a Dem is in the White House and the GOP has the house of representatives. If they really cared about spending, how come they never pull this shit with a Republican in the White House? Zero integrity with those 20 buffoons. | |||
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They do complain about spending all the time. Spending needs to be cut. The last omnibus bill was a good example. Somebody needs to do something…the spending is nuts! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Muffled complaints with an R in the White House, rapid about cutting spending when a Dem is POTUS. They do not care about spending, they care about creating chaos and shutting down the Government so they can go on Fox and get more political contributions. This same group never offers solutions, just roadblocks for those who are trying to govern. I was hoping the GOP might change directions and I would be able to least consider casting my vote for an R in the next election cycle, from the looks of things they will just charge harder to the right leaving me no choice but to vote for others. | |||
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Passing a budget and living within that budget has always been a viable “solution” in my businesses. YMMV ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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The last infrastructure bill which President Trump campaigned on but could not deliver would have kept an inept R Governor in KY. That R lost the Republican Northern Counties Louie B Nunn county, because he agitated against an infrastructure bill. Lost by 5k votes. McCarty prior to this debacle gave the Faction everything. McCarty called for Congress to investigate Jan 6. He abandoned that for them. He refused to have Greene censored. He traded Liz Chaney for fools who have now made him a fool. The GOP cannot get their pants on. It has shown the GOP who allows people like these 20 in do not deserve power. Take the 20 and go form a new party. See how far you get. We do not need them. Nor anyone who supports them. | |||
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True enough but a thinking man does have to wonder why this same group was quiet as a church mouse when Trump was submitting record high deficit budgets to congress. A few muffled grumbles but nothing more during Trump's term, now they demand we shut the government down. This is pure political brinkmanship, nothing more. | |||
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None of these 20 have proposed a budget that would make votes to find the government and raise the debt ceiling unnecessary. Saying we want less spending is not legislation. It is not policy. At best, it is an unspecific goal. It is like a football coach saying, “ I want a touchdown.” However, he designs no plays to get the touchdown. | |||
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Proposing to actually have and operate within a budget is a plan. That plan has to be agreed upon before anything further can be done. Developing a budget to go to the floor is legislating. In reality, second to agreeing to live within a budget, it is the most important part of legislating. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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No it is not. Propose a budget, actually write one. They never have and never will. It is a goal. Do not tell me the what. Tell me the How. Legislation and legislating is the How. We use to call it governing. | |||
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Let us not ignore, most of these 20 are election deniers. | |||
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IOW, alt-reality zealots. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...4fa5b2e828acae302412 Adam Schiff: The fear is not being thrown off a committee — it's what the GOP-led House will do in the 2024 election Story by Sarah K. Burris • Yesterday 12:19 PM =============================================== The thing is maybe GOPers are not dysfunctional at all. Maybe they have a plan, and so far, have been practicing how to achieve it.  ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...4fa5b2e828acae302412 'A good deal for America': Robert Reich offers Dems a way to undermine GOP power during House speaker war Story by Meaghan Ellis • Yesterday 1:22 PM ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...4fa5b2e828acae302412 New research shows that Donald Trump's fascist attacks on democracy may have backfired Opinion by Chauncey DeVega • 14h ago ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Looks like McCarty has sold the last piece of cloth. Position over principle. He may have the job title, but not the stroke. Surely, this will end tomorrow. Election deniers deserve no place in Committees. | |||
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Mike, How would giving amnesty to illegal immigrants who are here in the US, solve the problem of illegals coming into the country? Maybe you can explain that to me, because it seems that it would actually encourage more to enter illegally.... Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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Unless a path to at least documentation is included for long term immigrants. The ones working here. There is no deal to be made on boarded security. I have written this before on here. Here is my deal: A new permanent visa program for long term migrants. They have to have no felony arrest, no gang association, and no misdemeanor drug conviction above possession of marijuana, current work sponsor, priority to families. This could be done through a combination of FBI and Immigration Administrative Law Judge with a timeline cap to come forward with application; A path to citizenship for those who pass the above and join the military at completion of a 4 year contract; A major spending package to hire Boarder Patrol Agents, Immigration Administrative Law Judges that hear Immigration cases, major equipment such a drones and helicopters with thermal capability, creation of a quick response doctrine to intercept those located by the drones and choppers; Hard cap on asylum seekers from Latin America that the President cannot ignore or change (this would have to be done country by country); Apply in country of origin for asylum (the argument here is no one is going to be able to access such in nowhere Latin America); Raise over stay of a temp visa to a Felony that becomes more punitive the number of times caught (currently not a Crime at all not even a misdemeanor); Make it after date certain a Class C Federal Offense for companies of more than 50 employees to knowingly hire undocumented workers or illegals (take your pick on words). Now, this is already a crime, but lower charge and not a priority) Again, tie money that the AG, ICE and FBI receive to arrest and prosecutions. This would make such prosecutions a priority. If AG dismisses x percentage of cases AG looses funding same as FBI and ICE not making arrest or inspections; Allow ICE and FBI inspections accesses to business to verify legal status to work for employees; After date certain, all employees have to maintain proof of eligibility to work either a work visa or SS card; And The overall migration scheme from Mexico for Mexican Nationals would need to be reworked. I forgot one: Those obtain permanent work status be permitted citizenship after 4 years. | |||
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