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Posts: 10211 | Location: Dillingham Alaska | Registered: 10 April 2006Reply With Quote
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We will see, I'm not so sure either of those count as winning.
 
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True, we will see if it works.

I think you and I favor both. Preservationist public land policy has been a disaster and as I've said before, I'd happily invade Mexico with their cooperation in order to eradicate the drug cartels.
 
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Surprised to see you buying into this nonsense.

Any thoughts about operational or tactical plans to invade Mexico and eradicate the drug cartels that would have any hope of succeeding?

Airborne drops? Armored invasion? US troops permanently stationed in Mexico to interdict drug trafficking routes? In a country with a 2,000 mile border with the US?

What's the plan? We've spent billions trying to control drug trafficking within our own borders with pretty much zero success. We're going to go to Mexico and control it? I don't think so.



 
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very good repetition before saving canadians from trudeau ... it is a putine way and i can guarantee again that it will not work ... too much too loose for your country ...
 
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Surprised to see you buying into this nonsense.

Any thoughts about operational or tactical plans to invade Mexico and eradicate the drug cartels that would have any hope of succeeding?

Airborne drops? Armored invasion? US troops permanently stationed in Mexico to interdict drug trafficking routes? In a country with a 2,000 mile border with the US?

What's the plan? We've spent billions trying to control drug trafficking within our own borders with pretty much zero success. We're going to go to Mexico and control it? I don't think so.


I'm tired of headlines like "Sinaloa Cartel in Butte Montana" and "Venezuelan gang in Aurora Colorado ". I shouldn't have to read that stuff, we shouldn't, it should never be allowed to become a topic.

For all the obvious reasons tactics shouldn't be left to guys like me. You wanna go fly fishing? I'm your boy. Military strategery? You better look elsewhere.

But since you asked, were I POTUS I'd ask my staff to return a plan to eliminate the Cartels within 30 days; a) maximum destruction, b) medium destruction, c) minimum destruction, all three options complete operations also within 30 days.

I'd fly myself to Mexico City and ask the Mexican president to pick one and I'd say Go! before even leaving Mexico City limits.

Id emphasize that I'd get it over and done with. You wanna impeach me? Fine. Put me in prison? Fine. I'd be the President that would do what it took to eliminate the Cartels and suffer the consequences.

Another Dillingham girl died last week down in the Lower 48, I don't think she was 25.

I've run out of mercy.
 
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very good repetition before saving canadians from trudeau ... it is a putine way and i can guarantee again that it will not work ... too much too loose for your country ...


That's all well and fine, id expect nothing more from you than to waddle around and do nothing.
 
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The drug war is stupid and it always has been. Drugs should be treated the same way as alcohol. Legalize it, tax it and take the profit out of it for foreign entities like the cartels. The cartels cease to exist when that happens.



 
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The drug war is stupid and it always has been. Drugs should be treated the same way as alcohol. Legalize it, tax it and take the profit out of it for foreign entities like the cartels. The cartels cease to exist when that happens.


I wouldn't say you are wrong, but I'd like to kill them all first. Big Grin
 
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I have no issue with these in a vacuum. The issue is Trump is irredeemable politically to me. However, yes as to these policies.
 
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I have no issue with these in a vacuum. The issue is Trump is irredeemable politically to me. However, yes as to these policies.


Ain't nobody said either one of us gotta vote for him or donate to his campaign. Big Grin
 
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We're going to launch drones strikes into a neighboring sovereign country, and fantasize they won't object?

What about the inevitable innocent civilian deaths?

There is no vacuum. Do you think these drug cartels stay in isolated compounds in the desert?
 
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very good repetition before saving canadians from trudeau ... it is a putine way and i can guarantee again that it will not work ... too much too loose for your country ...


That's all well and fine, id expect nothing more from you than to waddle around and do nothing.


more than welcome to please you but i do know it is easy to please a trump supporter ...
 
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Article plainly mentions Mexican cooperation.

What about collateral damage? Hamas operates out of Kindergarten classrooms and hospitals so they should be left alone?
Cartels operate out of civilian infrastructure so we should send flowers? I don't think so.

Eliminate the terrorists and encourage the civilians to not allow it to happen again.
 
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Come on, Scott. You really think Mexico is going to cooperate in collateral damage to its citizens?
 
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Article plainly mentions Mexican cooperation.

What about collateral damage? Hamas operates out of Kindergarten classrooms and hospitals so they should be left alone?
Cartels operate out of civilian infrastructure so we should send flowers? I don't think so.

Eliminate the terrorists and encourage the civilians to not allow it to happen again.


you cannot stop yourself to bring hamas in anything ... remember you did not say a thing or push trump and as you elected him you will considered as a fan of him when he will fall down ... most of the world doesnt not look as friendly ... leaving alone on your own territory with no goods coming from your neighbours might be harder when we will find new market ... and once gone it will hard to try to be nice again.

i imagine you will make sure that what trump is doing will never happen again otherwise you are not better than him ...
 
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The drug war is stupid and it always has been. Drugs should be treated the same way as alcohol. Legalize it, tax it and take the profit out of it for foreign entities like the cartels. The cartels cease to exist when that happens.


The war on drugs is only stupid because of liberal idiots like yourself lil mikey!

If I was in charge without leftist oversight it would have been over in months!

You leftie lawyer types need your repeat customers so you fight like he'll to keep the drugs coming!


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I have no issue with these in a vacuum. The issue is Trump is irredeemable politically to me. However, yes as to these policies.


The only issue you have is that you are a leftie, elitist....period! You have no answers, no solutions, just leftist whinging!


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Come on, Scott. You really think Mexico is going to cooperate in collateral damage to its citizens?


I dunno, do you think Mexico approves of the collateral damage currently being perpetrated on its citizens by the cartels?
Do you want to Google civilian Mexican deaths at the hands of the cartels or should I?
 
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Article plainly mentions Mexican cooperation.

What about collateral damage? Hamas operates out of Kindergarten classrooms and hospitals so they should be left alone?
Cartels operate out of civilian infrastructure so we should send flowers? I don't think so.

Eliminate the terrorists and encourage the civilians to not allow it to happen again.


you cannot stop yourself to bring hamas in anything ... remember you did not say a thing or push trump and as you elected him you will considered as a fan of him when he will fall down ... most of the world doesnt not look as friendly ... leaving alone on your own territory with no goods coming from your neighbours might be harder when we will find new market ... and once gone it will hard to try to be nice again.

i imagine you will make sure that what trump is doing will never happen again otherwise you are not better than him ...


Sorry what? I don't speak gibberish.
 
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We're going to launch drones strikes into a neighboring sovereign country, and fantasize they won't object?

What about the inevitable innocent civilian deaths?

There is no vacuum. Do you think these drug cartels stay in isolated compounds in the desert?


Who cares? Mexico does nothing, except take cartel money!

Do you think carpet bombing Berlin was wrong?

Drugs, coming in from Mexico, have killed more Americans than Hitler did!

Mexico is nothing more than a gaping chest wound on our southern border. They are a failed state ruled by narco terrorists.


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Article plainly mentions Mexican cooperation.

What about collateral damage? Hamas operates out of Kindergarten classrooms and hospitals so they should be left alone?
Cartels operate out of civilian infrastructure so we should send flowers? I don't think so.

Eliminate the terrorists and encourage the civilians to not allow it to happen again.


Scott, we are of the same mind here. Mayheeco can go along....or go away.....


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Article plainly mentions Mexican cooperation.

What about collateral damage? Hamas operates out of Kindergarten classrooms and hospitals so they should be left alone?
Cartels operate out of civilian infrastructure so we should send flowers? I don't think so.

Eliminate the terrorists and encourage the civilians to not allow it to happen again.


you cannot stop yourself to bring hamas in anything ... remember you did not say a thing or push trump and as you elected him you will considered as a fan of him when he will fall down ... most of the world doesnt not look as friendly ... leaving alone on your own territory with no goods coming from your neighbours might be harder when we will find new market ... and once gone it will hard to try to be nice again.

i imagine you will make sure that what trump is doing will never happen again otherwise you are not better than him ...


Sorry what? I don't speak gibberish.


He's an idiot!

Don't forget HE elected Justine trudeau......


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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
The drug war is stupid and it always has been. Drugs should be treated the same way as alcohol. Legalize it, tax it and take the profit out of it for foreign entities like the cartels. The cartels cease to exist when that happens.


The war on drugs is only stupid because of liberal idiots like yourself lil mikey!

If I was in charge without leftist oversight it would have been over in months!

You leftie lawyer types need your repeat customers so you fight like he'll to keep the drugs coming!


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Not months, days. Launch the attack, secure the beachhead, end of major hostilities, end of operation.

Return to quarters and stand up like a man for the consequences of your actions.
 
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Article plainly mentions Mexican cooperation.

What about collateral damage? Hamas operates out of Kindergarten classrooms and hospitals so they should be left alone?
Cartels operate out of civilian infrastructure so we should send flowers? I don't think so.

Eliminate the terrorists and encourage the civilians to not allow it to happen again.


Scott, we are of the same mind here. Mayheeco can go along....or go away.....


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Well, I don't want Mexico to go away, but the time is well passed for them to be a good neighbor like Greenland. Big Grin

We can work with Mexico to eradicate the Cartels. As I've mentioned elsewhere, I favor the pacification of Haiti. Unlike Mexico, Haiti is a failed state and we are remiss to ignore it.

I say partner with Mexico, ( insist if we must,) and force a lasting safety. In Haiti, send a Marine division, secure the beach, secure the Capital, end major operations, end all hostilities. Keep the rent we owe Cuba for Guantanamo Bay and give the place back to Cuba. Move the base there to Haiti and make it a protectorate and never leave.
 
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https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/front...of-mexicos-drug-war/

Ten years ago Rolland, ten years ago.

I see that current estimates are 30k civilian Mexicans killed annually.

Regardless their acquiesce we shouldn't send in drones or Special Forces or two dozen B52's?

Our influence in Mexico is well overdue.
 
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and in the same token your truly dictator is organizing a military parade in dc for his birthday ... you all voted for ...
 
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