One thing watching from the outside that I dont understand?
I see these massive rallies for Harris or Trump, and seems like thousands show up, and each side seems to want to downplay the numbers that show for the other.

Over here if we held such events, maybe the core supporters and active party workers would go. 200 hundred people maybe.

Why are they so popular?

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Originally posted by shankspony:
One thing watching from the outside that I dont understand?
I see these massive rallies for Harris or Trump, and seems like thousands show up, and each side seems to want to downplay the numbers that show for the other.

Over here if we held such events, maybe the core supporters and active party workers would go. 200 hundred people maybe.

Why are they so popular?

I don't think you guys feel downtrodden.

Americans feel downtrodden, believe they are victims. Trump pledges to Make America Great Again. See? Apparently America is crummy now and Trump will save the downtrodden, rescue the victims. We're not great but Don will change that.

Obama brought "hope" because before Obama there was no hope.

Biden was going to Build Back Better because America wasn't built or was falling apart so Joe was going to build back and build it better than it was before.

The attendee's of the January 6th stunt were all victims of the stolen election and the BLM fellers were all victims of systemic oppression and racism.

We're all victims.

I had hope for Obama

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Originally posted by shankspony:
One thing watching from the outside that I dont understand?
I see these massive rallies for Harris or Trump, and seems like thousands show up, and each side seems to want to downplay the numbers that show for the other.

Over here if we held such events, maybe the core supporters and active party workers would go. 200 hundred people maybe.

Why are they so popular?

Sports team culture here.

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I see these massive rallies for Harris or Trump, and seems like thousands show up, and each side seems to want to downplay the numbers that show for the other.

For whatever reason, they seem important. I've never been to one.

Trump up plays the numbers at his rallies.

Anyway:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...mNb?ocid=socialshare

Harris crowd size 'speaks volumes' as Trump's gloomy message loses favor to joy, hope messaging

Political rallies are nothing but glorified and organized hooligans!

Cult member top-ups.

I had a bookkeeper in my office some years back who asked for time off to attend some big Jehovahs Witness rally, he was some sort of church elder.

When he got back, I asked him how his rally was; the guy was absolutely glowing..told me he felt “so invigorated!”.

Poor bastard spent half his income on rolls and rolls of Watchtowers and Awake pamphlets. I think he was my first one-on-one experience with a ‘surrendered mind’. Well educated, meticulous accountant, but a zombie puppet to his cult. Now I see it all over; a surrendered mind under every red hat.

Ahh, spoken like a half blind Trudeau ass kisser.
Look at the crowds Bernie Sanders got promising free everything. They were crowds who had never done anything, but expecting everything back.

Yeah the crowds are pretty even come republican or democrat.
Are the members who show up for Harris Zombies too?

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
I had hope for Obama

We all did....he wasted a great opportunity.....



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Originally posted by theback40:
Ahh, spoken like a half blind Trudeau ass kisser.
Look at the crowds Bernie Sanders got promising free everything. They were crowds who had never done anything, but expecting everything back.

Well written!

Well, rallies are a good place for politicians to say something.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...Ljp?ocid=socialshare

Republican Mayor Of Mesa, Arizona Endorses Kamala Harris For President

Republican Mayor John Giles recently endorsed Kamala Harris for President in 2024, saying that Americans must join together in order to stop Donald Trump.

What is behind rallies?

I don’t know. I suspect freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, and people engaging in the political process have something to do with it.

You all are free to assemble on my porch anytime. Especially if you bring beer.

I would bring Bourbon.

I might bring a Single Malt Sherry Cask.

I do not drink beer.

I promised a buddy, I would drink one beer w him on my birthday in two weeks.

Last year, I got a McCallan 18 year as a gift. I poured him 2 ounces. He smelled it and gave it back.

I will choke down a beer just bc he would not even try Scotch.

Question, can you guys sell alcohol on election days? KY and TN do not allow alcohol sales on election days. I vestige of a bygone era.

Alcohol sales every day of the year I think. No different too any other product. Beer, Wine, Cider etc available at supermarkets. Whisky Rum etc mostly at liquor shops.

In my mind…one would have to be a nut to stand in line for hours to listen to any politician.

If John Wayne were reincarnated and made a new movie…I would be hard-pressed to stand in line more than 30 minutes to see it on the big-screen. And that is saying something!

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Originally posted by frankinthelaurels:
NOTHING MORE THAN A SICK SHIT SHOW !!! HAVE YOU LISTENED TO THAT SICK PRICK LATELY, HE'S GONE OFF THE DEEP DEEP END !!

Are you speaking of Timi? Cause Kami is a she. Get the pronouns right!

I do have to ask Frank…why always bold and all caps? I am interested to know — or are you just a certifiable nut as we all suspect?

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Originally posted by ledvm:
In my mind…one would have to be a nut to stand in line for hours to listen to any politician.

If John Wayne were reincarnated and made a new movie…I would be hard-pressed to stand in line more than 30 minutes to see it on the big-screen. And that is saying something!

Then you must be an advocate for mail in ballots.

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Originally posted by shankspony:
One thing watching from the outside that I dont understand?
I see these massive rallies for Harris or Trump, and seems like thousands show up, and each side seems to want to downplay the numbers that show for the other.

Over here if we held such events, maybe the core supporters and active party workers would go. 200 hundred people maybe.

Why are they so popular?

It is bizarre.

I wouldn't walk across the street to see Harris or trump.

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Originally posted by ledvm:
In my mind…one would have to be a nut to stand in line for hours to listen to any politician.

If John Wayne were reincarnated and made a new movie…I would be hard-pressed to stand in line more than 30 minutes to see it on the big-screen. And that is saying something!

Well, let's not go too far....I might stand in a line for that.

I watched The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance the other night for the umpteenth time. I never tire of the restaurant scene where John Wayne says to Valance: "I said you, Liberty. You pick it up."

That’s my steak, Valance.

Note the period and not the exclamation point.

Very underrated piece of venoms in its time.
Ford had to shoot it on a back lot bc the Studio would not give him a budget.
I think it was only nominated for best black and white cinematography.

I agree on standing in line for any politician.

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That’s my steak, Valance.

https://youtu.be/fikOfVm4_9g?si=a0V0IkN_7-Swbj6y

John Wayne's Coolest Scenes #16: Steak, "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" (1962)

https://youtu.be/XpuY92TOnZo?si=cpUPzYP1cvNf2AEr

Tom Doniphon shoots Liberty Valence (from The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence)

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
In my mind…one would have to be a nut to stand in line for hours to listen to any politician.

If John Wayne were reincarnated and made a new movie…I would be hard-pressed to stand in line more than 30 minutes to see it on the big-screen. And that is saying something!

Then you must be an advocate for mail in ballots.

Negative. The worst thing that ever happened to our election system.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
In my mind…one would have to be a nut to stand in line for hours to listen to any politician.

If John Wayne were reincarnated and made a new movie…I would be hard-pressed to stand in line more than 30 minutes to see it on the big-screen. And that is saying something!

Well, let's not go too far....I might stand in a line for that.

I watched The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance the other night for the umpteenth time. I never tire of the restaurant scene where John Wayne says to Valance: "I said you, Liberty. You pick it up."

Points we have in common!

My other John Wayne favorite....from Big Jake:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-7OGoBMDVc

I agree. One of my favorite scenes is in the Searchers which the camera slightly below Duke.

You see the anger build. The physical fire of the ranch like a fire go from embers to a blaze inside him.

The camera cuts. Ethan is in shadow. There is a red tint in the ski reflecting the two fires one of the ranch and one a man’s soul. the camera is lower. Duke looks like a Roman’s General on his mount rendered to sculpture. The hand goes back. The buckskin rifle slip just glides off in the breeze.

The imagery for me invoked a knight, El Cid, himself, has unsheathed his sword.

Big Jake scene is good too.

My other top 5 scene is The Shootist.

Lauren Bacall’s character is given Duke a flogging for killing the two men who came into his room at night to Duke for the fame of it.

“I'm a dying man, scared of the dark.”


I watched the Searchers 500 times if I watched it once growing up. It was not until I was in college that I realized the reason Ethan stopped Martin from seeing Martha. I always thought Ethan did not want Martin to see Martha’s charred body. No, it was because she had been raped, and probably physically mutilated concerning Martha’s genitalia.

A tell for this is when he finds the older girl’s body, “ What do you want me to do spell it out for ya! Draw you a picture! As long as you live never ask more.”

Another harsh fact is that Debbie is Ethan’s daughter.

In the original script and filming, the Climax is Ethan about to kill Debbie. The wind picks up as Ethan looks at her over the Colt, “You look just like your mother.” Ethan throws away the devil and picks up Debbie and carries her. Ford cut it to what you see in the film.

The original is better. It does away with a critique that Ethan’s switch is too sudden and not coherent. However, the cut really provides no knew information. Debbie lives believing her dad was her father. The viewer should know the relationship among Ethan, Martha, and Debbie by this point. The touches shared between Ethan and Martha. Martha holding (smelling) Ethan’s coat. Ethan when he rides down on the ranch shouting Martha’s name.

Martin being told, “Ethan will put a bullet in her brain. I tell you, Martha would have wanted it.” Ethan believes Martha would have wanted it as much as Ethan thinks he must.

It is a theme replayed in later Duke movies. Chis bring one. A brother leaving, a love given to another brother more suited to provide love and stability. The what is best is for me to ride away knowing my love is “better” to be w my brother. The ultimate shoe of love. The sacrifice of love, so the other person can have a better life.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
My other John Wayne favorite....from Big Jake:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-7OGoBMDVc

We just got back from South Texas. We have Big Jake on Blue Ray disc in our Airstream. We watched it the night before we left down there. It is one of my favorites as well.

The prior night it was Hatari.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
My other John Wayne favorite....from Big Jake:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-7OGoBMDVc

We just got back from South Texas. We have Big Jake on Blue Ray disc in our Airstream. We watched it the night before we left down there. It is one of my favorites as well.

The prior night it was Hatari.

Love Hatari. Great movie.

The Shootist too. His last and maybe one of his best.

I'll pretty much watch any JW movie. The Cahill movies were great too. Him and Katherine Hepburn. Classic. And, it doesn't get any better than True Grit. "I mean to kill you in one minute Ned. Or see you hanged in Fort Smith at Judge Parkers' convenience. Which will it be?....Fill your hand, you son of a bitch"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs1U7U9sgXA

The end of Chisum:

Wrong, Mr. Pepper. Because no matter where people go, sooner or later there's the law. And sooner or later they find God's already been there.

Let’s break out the Winchesters.

I am not going to see the Sheriff, the Governor, or even the President of the United States. I am going to going to see you.

Sadly, Duke, who just had a lung removed, was disheartened that an obvious stuntman had to be used in the last fight.

Haunts me like John Wayne walking away.