And, the White House ain't happy about it.

https://www.axios.com/2025/04/...e-day-sellers-report

Let em do that. The worst possible outcome for me would be cutting into my wife's Amazon addiction. Just like shipping, handling, taxes, and other fees being displayed, I couldn't care less about it being display. If I agree on the price to purchase, it is what it is.

If it does cut down on my wife's addiction to online shopping, there should be a carbon offset!!!

And Amazon says it's a false story
https://abcnews.go.com/Politic...curing/?id=121230740

No, the worst possible outcome is inflation due to piss poor policy. I just paid my first tariff bill today(that is a tax for the local mental midgets), total and utter

My client paid an additional 4500$ on his purchases.

Why did it piss off president shit for brains? It’s a new way to a wealthy America. Other countries have been ripping us off for too long.

Arizona Tea has cost the same since 1992. .99 cents. Some folks aren’t swallowed whole by greed.

I have no issue with putting the tariff amount on the information…

But I would also like to have mandated the price you are out the door be what has to be advertised and listed. No listing the price absent taxes or other charges. No including mail in rebate in the advertised price.

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
No, the worst possible outcome is inflation due to piss poor policy. I just paid my first tariff bill today(that is a tax for the local mental midgets), total and utter

My client paid an additional 4500$ on his purchases.

You're lucky he didn't cancel.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
And Amazon says it's a false story
https://abcnews.go.com/Politic...curing/?id=121230740

Doesn't say it was a false story. Says trump made a call to Bezos.

"President Donald Trump called Amazon founder Jeff Bezos Tuesday following a report that Amazon was planning to display how much tariffs are increasing prices on products, two sources with knowledge of the conversation told ABC News.

The call came shortly after senior administration officials informed the president of the reported plans by Amazon.

Following their call, Amazon released an updated statement.

"The team that runs our ultra low cost Amazon Haul store considered the idea of listing import charges on certain products. This was never approved and is not going to happen." CNN was the first to report news of the call."

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Originally posted by crbutler:
I have no issue with putting the tariff amount on the information…

But I would also like to have mandated the price you are out the door be what has to be advertised and listed. No listing the price absent taxes or other charges. No including mail in rebate in the advertised price.

You may not have an issue with it and I could care less if you do or not. Apparently, your fearless leader did. There's no way the orange shit-gibbon wants folks to know exactly how much his hair-brained tariff scheme is costing consumers on a product by product basis.

I want the increase shown, and more.
Just got prices for fertilizers. It comes in from canada by rail to a border town. New price for potash, up $40 a ton with tariffs. What is the price of phosphates? No change, only on potash.
I want to know why it is a pick and choose. And what is given up on the left hand, and taken on the right hand. There is a lot going on, and they seem to think we have no right to know. Yes, this same thing goes on with every trade deal, not just tariffs, but I want things out front where we can see them all.

Gee Mike he’s every bit as much your fearless leader as he is mine.

I’m unimpressed with how Trump is dealing with the economy as well.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by crbutler:
I have no issue with putting the tariff amount on the information…

But I would also like to have mandated the price you are out the door be what has to be advertised and listed. No listing the price absent taxes or other charges. No including mail in rebate in the advertised price.

You may not have an issue with it and I could care less if you do or not. Apparently, your fearless leader did. There's no way the orange shit-gibbon wants folks to know exactly how much his hair-brained tariff scheme is costing consumers on a product by product basis.

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Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
No, the worst possible outcome is inflation due to piss poor policy. I just paid my first tariff bill today(that is a tax for the local mental midgets), total and utter

My client paid an additional 4500$ on his purchases.

You're lucky he didn't cancel.

To cancel he would have had to forfeit 45K in rifles, he was not happy about the extra he will be paying. The same guy has over 250K overseas that he needs to bring in, not happy at all about the extra 10%. These are his guns I am bringing in as a service, not guns I had bought and sold to a client. I do both so it can become confusing.

For the record, I did not make a penny more than I would have pre-tariffs, all the extra went straight to uncle Donald.

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Originally posted by crbutler:
Gee Mike he’s every bit as much your fearless leader as he is mine.

I’m unimpressed with how Trump is dealing with the economy as well.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by crbutler:
I have no issue with putting the tariff amount on the information…

But I would also like to have mandated the price you are out the door be what has to be advertised and listed. No listing the price absent taxes or other charges. No including mail in rebate in the advertised price.

You may not have an issue with it and I could care less if you do or not. Apparently, your fearless leader did. There's no way the orange shit-gibbon wants folks to know exactly how much his hair-brained tariff scheme is costing consumers on a product by product basis.

I'm not "unimpressed", I am appalled. And, he is not my "fearless leader", he is a dangerous enemy who appears to be intent on destroying our economy, the rule of law and our trade relations with every other country in the world because he is a clueless fucking idiot.

Who on earth is going to ever trust us going forward when they realize that every four years morons like you might elect another idiot like trump?

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Who on earth is going to ever trust us going forward when they realize that every four years morons like you might elect another idiot like trump?

The same people that don't trust us because idiots like you will vote for a cadaver like creepy joe

You are right Jim. The bane of our existence are those that support Trump or Biden . . . the idiots in the electorate on both the right and the left.

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Originally posted by MJines:
You are right Jim. The bane of our existence are those that support Trump or Biden . . . the idiots in the electorate on both the right and the left.

Eww, that hurt.

What a complete jerk and bad person Jines is for speaking the truth. DRG should whip out the ban stick. Jines words hurt me.

The numbers say sleepy Joe did all right. He as a cadaver is 100 times preferable to your fascist prick.

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Originally posted by LongDistanceOperator:
Why did it piss off president shit for brains? It’s a new way to a wealthy America. Other countries have been ripping us off for too long.

If tariffs are a good idea and they are paid by foreign countries, the white house would LOVE to have them listed on amazon purchases.

Either they're lying, or they are stupid. Or both. Not at least one.

Why do other countries have these terrible tariffs? And for years.

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Originally posted by tomahawker:
Why do other countries have these terrible tariffs? And for years.

They don't dumb ass. They have duties, just like us, but not blanket tariffs like that moron Trump instituted. We now have tariffs and duty and charges some of the highest taxes on imported goods in the world.

Pull your head out of your ass and you might be able to see what is happening around.

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Originally posted by tomahawker:
Why do other countries have these terrible tariffs? And for years.

. . . another conservative for higher taxes. Must be thrilled to see the level of government borrowing going up 3X over the next three months too. And I can only imagine how giddy you are over higher bond yields that just increase the cost of servicing the national debt. So much winning . . .

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by MJines:
You are right Jim. The bane of our existence are those that support Trump or Biden . . . the idiots in the electorate on both the right and the left.

Eww, that hurt.

What a complete jerk and bad person Jines is for speaking the truth. DRG should whip out the ban stick. Jines words hurt me.

No shit. Hunter Thompson was right - as long as we are willing to elect the lesser of two evils, the evils will get worse.

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Originally posted by TomP:

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by MJines:
You are right Jim. The bane of our existence are those that support Trump or Biden . . . the idiots in the electorate on both the right and the left.

Eww, that hurt.

What a complete jerk and bad person Jines is for speaking the truth. DRG should whip out the ban stick. Jines words hurt me.

No shit. Hunter Thompson was right - as long as we are willing to elect the lesser of two evils, the evils will get worse.

trump is the evil of 2 lessers.

Tariffs are a duty. What do we do with a 918 billion dollar trade deficit? We all here would like to see that lowered.

. . . tariffs are a tax. Sounds like you are fine paying higher taxes. Do a little homework.

According to Yale(damn uppity educated folks anyway), the US now has some of the highest import taxes on the planet.

https://budgetlab.yale.edu/res...d-2025-through-april

"The April 2nd action is the equivalent of a rise in the effective US tariff rate of 11 ½ percentage points. The average effective US tariff rate after incorporating all 2025 tariffs is now 22 ½%, the highest since 1909."

A tariff or import tax is a duty.

Semantics at this point. Back to the adult world, what to do with almost a trillion dollar deficit?

What you need to do is have a consensus that deficits are not allowed and stick to it.

Look at how unhappy the political class was when we had the spending increase moratorium.

Trump’s idea of tariffs to fund the government was tried before. It worked until we got in to shooting wars (civil war and WWI, notably).

With the modern social safety net, there has been a worldwide incapability of living within means wherever they have democratic voting. Everyone demands their fingers get part of the pie.

No, it’s not “just” the democrats. Clinton and the Gingrich GOP got the budget controlled. The GOP takes over, and they insist on spending more on their pet projects, even though they don’t increase revenue. Add in the GWOT and it’s an even bigger mess. Then get Obama who doesn’t cut the GWOT but also doubles down on more social spending… then Trumpy cuts taxes without cutting spending and then doubled down on social populism spending with Covid, giving Biden and the democrats free rein to double down on that…. Yet some here think Trump is fiscally responsible?

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Originally posted by tomahawker:
Tariffs are a duty. What do we do with a 918 billion dollar trade deficit? We all here would like to see that lowered.

We can't sell them what they want at prices that they are willing to pay so we'll just charge them more to dump their stuff? How much of that $918 deficit is for goods and services and how much is for tariff/duty/taxes differential?

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Originally posted by tomahawker:
Semantics at this point. Back to the adult world, what to do with almost a trillion dollar deficit?

Where was this concern when Bush 2 handed over a trillion dollar + deficit on his way out, or when trump jacked it right back up there as soon as he hit office? When have republicans in office ever worried about the deficit? What was it Reagan said? "These deficits aren't so bad, are they?"

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Originally posted by wymple:

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Originally posted by tomahawker:
Semantics at this point. Back to the adult world, what to do with almost a trillion dollar deficit?

Where was this concern when Bush 2 handed over a trillion dollar + deficit on his way out, or when trump jacked it right back up there as soon as he hit office? When have republicans in office ever worried about the deficit? What was it Reagan said? "These deficits aren't so bad, are they?"

Yeah. So, in obamas first year, regardless of obamas reckless spending, it was bushes fault

Same story with Biden, Trump's fault

But with Trump, II it's Trump's fault

Well, go ahead close enough, in this nutshell of your hypocrisy, explain how you blame the prior guy 2 of 3 times...

It's more l likely, than though unstated, that you blame Bush II for the 2001 meltdown as well.

Hmmm. What could be the factor? Hmmm

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Originally posted by tomahawker:
Semantics at this point. Back to the adult world, what to do with almost a trillion dollar deficit?

Taking away the tax beaks for the rich would be a good start.

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Originally posted by MJines:
You are right Jim. The bane of our existence are those that support Trump or Biden . . . the idiots in the electorate on both the right and the left.

Versus what? Voting for somebody that has zero chance of winning? That might make you feel all warm and fuzzy but you might as well not vote at all. I don't remember Biden trampling on the Constitution, ignoring court orders, appointing fucking idiots like Pam Bondi, etc etc etc.

Anybody thinking trump was the right choice hasn't been paying attention for the last 3 months. For that matter, the last 9 years.

i won't argue your subpoints - I haven't voted for a major party, in the general, in, well, decades - it's called CHOICE -- and if people don't start, a 3rd party will NEVER grow -

oh, as for "not paying attention" --trust me, I have been for far longer than 9 years, why do you think i won't vote for a major party president?

but, i get it, i am of that very slim part of the population that ALWAYS votes principal over party

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
i won't argue your subpoints - I haven't voted for a major party, in the general, in, well, decades - it's called CHOICE -- and if people don't start, a 3rd party will NEVER grow -

oh, as for "not paying attention" --trust me, I have been for far longer than 9 years, why do you think i won't vote for a major party president?

but, i get it, i am of that very slim part of the population that ALWAYS votes principal over party

I appreciate the contrarian arguments and will never begrudge anybody's choice. But, voting third party is meaningless (except to the extent it increases the likelihood of the election of one of the major party candidates you didn't vote for) and always has been in terms of ultimate outcome.

You can wish in one hand and shit in the other. You know the saying.

Or, you can continue to for principal over party, and increase the $, to the point here they are included in the debates - There's NO OTHER WAY that a third party can eventually become relevant than growth --

and i REFUSE to vote for the 2 party system and then have the lack of self to complain about one side of the coin doing different than I wanted -- what *I* want is another party, not the more oe less indistinguishable two

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Or, you can continue to for principal over party, and increase the $, to the point here they are included in the debates - There's NO OTHER WAY that a third party can eventually become relevant than growth --

and i REFUSE to vote for the 2 party system and then have the lack of self to complain about one side of the coin doing different than I wanted -- what *I* want is another party, not the more oe less indistinguishable two

And, how has that been working out for you so far?

disappointed that it's not growing 2-3% per year -- but it seems to grow a bit --

and usually, i couldn't stand to be in the same room with whoever wins .. i MIGHT have enjoyed tea and bbq with Bush I --