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While I am not watching congressional hearings on these cabinet appointees I have heard enough snippets from various media sources that make me cringe and wonder how these most unprofessional people got elected. This is a fact check for RFK Jr. RFK Jr. Falsely Attacked for Stating Scientific Fact on Vaccine Responses by Race Senator Alsobrooks calls RFK Jr.'s views "dangerous"—while ignoring well-documented scientific evidence. Multiple studies ~Ann | ||
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Is all your information from wacko conspiracy theorists? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_A._McCullough | |||
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The OP would be the last person I would depend on for “separating the wheat from the chaff.” Remember her sources include “Sundance” from “The Conservative Treehouse”. Chaff is their stock and trade. Mike | |||
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In a different discussion I posted an article authored by someone who can be trusted to tell Truth. He is so reliable that I didn't cross corroborate his statements of facts. But of course, they can be fact checked. Here's the post and it includes the schit Ann is mixed up about.
************* Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis "Stupid is as stupid does". Forest Gump "Fascist is as fascist does". Magine Enigam D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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I guess you are too wacko to read the studies. ~Ann | |||
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was a dem till like 5 months ago -- more dem voters voted for him to be the 2024 candidate than they did for quemala -- he was a "dem dude" till late 2024 - and the dems applauded him opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Prove the articles/studies are wrong. ~Ann | |||
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Just look no further than that pumpin that you cherish so much. Give me a home where the buffalo roam and I'll show you a house full of buffalo shit. | |||
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Anybody familiar with RFK's past ought to oppose his appointment. It's ridiculous. He's nuts. It's not even a discussion other than in the minds of the trumptards. Google him. Whackjob. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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Did you forget, you posted it. Prove it is correct. Or just continue throwing shit against the wall hoping something sticks. Mike | |||
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The big picture RFKjr brings is that America eats poorly is fat and unhealthy — and he is correct. He is unconventional and doesn’t fit into any mold but might just be the person who can affect some change. If you can give Rachel Levine a chance…surely you could muster the open mindedness to give Kennedy a chance. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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aww, mike .. we know you are just covering you misogyny, but YOUR claim is the studies are fake -- should be easy for you to do -- step up, honey .. and you might consider not following ann around, posting after everything ... what were you comments about a dog? .. oh, and all this WHILE you slurp up every kookie post ME makes, without comment or challenge? you bias is showing, honey -- opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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. . . good to see Daisy is still around. Good boy. Sit. Hopefully Joshua, Naki, Jeffive or Steve will come along for you to play fetch with. Mike | |||
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yeah .. there you go, honey --- can't face reality, so you revert to name calling ... and calling a person you KNOW by "misgendering" .. honey, that stuff was tired in 3rd grade -- but yeah, misogyny, as you obviously see the female as lesser awww.. tissue? opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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His postions on vaccines are not supported by fact. He knows this as he has 180, reversed when faced w his prior vaccine comments. This part is correct; The big picture RFKjr brings is that America eats poorly is fat and unhealthy — and he is correct. The problem is I see RFK jr selling out to those special interest and senators. This one thing does not outweigh the danger of other positions. Now, he is going over, and has hoped he would have spent his time trying to break big ag and Parma. I do not see it happening. | |||
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He's a nut. Been disparaging vaccines that prevent illness for years. Falsely links vaccines to autism. It's not about him being "unconventional", it's about him being a nut. But, that's perfect for this administration and your support of it. https://www.washingtonpost.com...t-years-misled-race/ -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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Bill Cassidy, a practicing physician for 30 years and a GOP Senator on the committee conducting the RFK Jr confirmation hearings says he is struggling with the nomination. Sometimes the Kool Aid is too bitter even for members of the GOP to swallow. Cassidy seems to be particularly leery of RFK Jr’s sudden conversion that vaccines are okay. Let’s just be honest RFK Jr has been a nut for decades. Mike | |||
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Love it! Daisy seems upset that she is being treated exactly as she treats others. Such a sad old rat dog. Who was that coined the name Fifi? That's right, it was you honey. It would be hard to be more of a hypocrite than Daisy is. | |||
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I think he's nuttier than a squirrel turd in general.....but his ideas on American health are spot on!!!! What they have been doing to the American food supply for the last 50 years is a crime. He showed us that quite a few of our most self righteous senators are firmly in the pocket of big pharma...... | |||
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I would really like RFK Jr to be successful at something good for us all. Poor guy has a bad starting place, bad aptitude, and bad top-down network. His luck ain't too good either. ************* Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis "Stupid is as stupid does". Forest Gump "Fascist is as fascist does". Magine Enigam D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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I thought Cassidy did a good job of stating his concerns with RFK Jr’s positions. Cassidy said he approaches the vaccine issue using the preponderance of the evidence to reassure those considering vaccines. On the other hand, RFK Jr uses selective evidence to cast doubt. We see that all the time here as well. There can be 99 studies supporting a concept and 1 study reaching an alternative conclusion and there will be a group here that dismiss the 99 studies and tout the 1 study. Mike | |||
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He also uses selective evidence to affirm doubt, and conspiracy theory. I can't offhand define what healthy skepticism is. I can give examples. But RFK Jr ain't got it. Okay, this video was posted before. I don't remember the thread. But if I'm gonna appeal to authority on healthy skepticism, this was one special guy: https://youtu.be/YT7kNBmZB7M?si=wBM4MUtBSHSqLYWP Carl Sagan's Final Message: Be Skeptical and Question Those in Authority ************* Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis "Stupid is as stupid does". Forest Gump "Fascist is as fascist does". Magine Enigam D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Ann is being a typical brainwashed political supporter. Her side does exactly the same thing, and she never utters a word! | |||
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You don't like the messenger but you won't prove the studies in the article wrong with your own source. Says a lot. You just like to run your mouth. Provide studies and data to prove what is listed in the article is wrong. ~Ann | |||
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He says all of his children are vaccinated. Is that an anti-vaxxer then? ~Ann | |||
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Here's an example of RFK Jr taking screened information or studies as confirmation bias for his theories. I searched for it, and found several examples. None were as concise as I wanted but this comes close. https://youtu.be/mRKxXmsvG7M?s...pOO67-ZHQ5XQll&t=201 Here's another: https://youtu.be/UOyjjY-E2YY?s...6ViVoeylGJfw9p&t=241 and another: https://youtu.be/Van_lgahM10?s...eQfOaThNNPPXIl&t=148 This article is old news, published in ScientificAmerican. It's headed as "opinion" but it's based on the fact of something RFK Jr said. https://www.scientificamerican...ong-they-are-deadly/ August 14, 2023 5 min read Racist COVID Claims Spread by RFK, Jr., and Other Demagogues Are Deadly False claims about racial susceptibility to COVID by Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., and others are dangerous and reveal a widespread misunderstanding of our shared vulnerability to disease https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/15...vaccine-antisemitism RFK Jr. repeats unfounded Covid-19 claims while defending himself from antisemitism accusations By Aaron Pellish and Liz Brown-Kaiser, CNN 4 minute read Updated 3:00 PM EST, Fri December 15, 2023 ************* Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis "Stupid is as stupid does". Forest Gump "Fascist is as fascist does". Magine Enigam D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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That’s the hypocrisy and danger of his prior public position we are talking about. | |||
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Okay, here's something on the author of the "published" research in the OP: Nicolas Hulscher, MPH https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Nicolas-Hulscher I read some of the stuff quickly. I see where Ann got the notion that Bird flu got started in a lab in Athens Georgia "Proximal Origin of Epidemic Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza H5N1 Clade 2.3.4.4b and Spread by Migratory Waterfowl The proximal origins may be the USDA Southeast Poultry Research Laboratory (SEPRL) in Athens, Georgia, and the Erasmus medical center" This has been shown to be wrong. Also: https://science.feedback.org/r...im-nicolas-hulscher/ Verdict: Inaccurate Claim: New research from Japan shows COVID-19 vaccines have “negative efficacy” Source: Substack, Nicolas Hulscher, 2025-01-06 https://answers.library.american.edu/faq/405403 ================================================== ResearchGate is a business that hosts open access research. It is neither a publisher nor a journal. It is a popular hub on the web for sharing academic publications. There is no editorial review board, nor does ResearchGate require that articles be peer reviewed, although they may be. Since it is an academic social network with no provision for vetting the articles, evaluate each source carefully. If you choose to use an article found on ResearchGate, https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/researchgate/ ResearchGate – Bias and Credibility Researchgate - Pro Science - Credible Factual Reporting: High - Credible - Reliable PRO-SCIENCE These sources consist of legitimate science or are evidence-based through the use of credible scientific sourcing. Legitimate science follows the scientific method, is unbiased, and does not use emotional words. These sources also respect the consensus of experts in the given scientific field and strive to publish peer-reviewed science. Some sources in this category may have a slight political bias but adhere to scientific principles. See all Pro-Science sources. Overall, this is a Pro-Science source; however, caution is needed as some Predatory Research may slip through the cracks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ResearchGate ************* Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis "Stupid is as stupid does". Forest Gump "Fascist is as fascist does". Magine Enigam D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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"He says all of his children are vaccinated. Is that an anti-vaxxer then?" Good for me, but not for thee syndrome. | |||
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The problem RFK Jr has with the Committee now (same for Tulsi) is that they are essentially asking the Committee members to ignore everything that they have said for years and believe that they have had some Damascus road conversion. Nevermind what I have said for years publicly, my beliefs now are dramatically different. The MAGAts will buy that crap. Most intelligent people not so much. Mike | |||
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You mean like Justice Ketanji Jackson's confirmation hearing? She was confirmed 53/47 McDonnell votes to confirm, Pothole Pete but votes no on Pete Hegseth? Does that make sense to you? Face it Washington is broken, both sides. Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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It does to me, but I can see why it doesn't click for you or any other Trump voter. Character matters to me. What did Pothole Pete ever do to compare to the history of abuse by Hegseth? | |||
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His experience as a mayor of a small town doesn't qualify him to be Transportation Sec. He was picked because he's a gay man, period. Hegseth's career as a highly educated and decorated combat soldier far outweighs Pothole Pete's accomplishments of taking maternity leave as a male cabinet secretary. The anonymous accusations on Hegseth are just that, anonymous. Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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nah, headless -- the only thing that matters to you is party affiliation -- here's YOUR thoughts on the matter
opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Steve, Buttigieg had not taken that leave when he was being debated for approval by the Senate. I get that RFK Jr is saying different things than he used to advance his positions. I have issues with him on that. Does he truly believe his statements? It appears not, given his commentary. I too have issues with him. He’s obviously a hypocritical mouthpiece. I get the point that we eat badly and don’t exercise enough. My point to those supporting him on that is: Pretty much everyone agrees it’s a problem. But if you are anti vaccination mandates, how can you be for mandates on food and exercise? Michelle Obama was for trying to convince people to eat right and exercise more… and got quite a bit of flack about her husband’s and her hypocrisy on that. So it’s bad when it was Michelle Obama but good when it’s RFK Jr and Trump? Do you want to make some food mandates that will raise prices 20% or more (this is essentially what banning high fructose corn syrup would result in- there would be a lot of downstream unintended consequences. Are you for giving more money in food stamps to allow the poor to make different choices (even though I’m sure they just will buy more bad crap with the extra money rather than buy the same amount of better choices…) | |||
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Dr. Butler, I’m aware of the timing, my point was that he was absolutely less qualified for his position, that Hegseth is for his. Pothole was a DEI nominee, period. This may surprise you, I hope RFK doesn’t get confirmed. His views are just to edgy to make health decisions for all of America. I think Tulsi is probably just qualified but could perhaps get over her skis pretty quick. That’s a job that there really isn’t any training for. Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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If the allegations are anonymous, that's because Hegseth buys their silence. The affidavit of his sister-in-law is not anonymous. Why pick on Pete because he's gay? I don't hear you demanding to know if there is a more qualified gay person than Hegseth. Why do gay hires so concern you? | |||
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So all the "allegations" about Biden being a pedo are true, simply because his daughter said he took showers with her? And as to gay cabinet, SCOTUS, VP's or any other position within the federal government. I want the best, most qualified person for the job. If that person is gay, I literally don't give one singe shit. But when a person is appointed or nominated BECAUSE they're black or gay or a woman, then I have issues. Trump had Rick Grinnell (Gay) as a foreign policy adviser and guess what..... https://www.ebar.com/story.php...y_treasury_secretary Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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I don't think much of the recent interpretation of DEI by some Dems and private entities, but nothing in your posts have convinced me that Pete was appointed because he was gay, or that he wasn't qualified for the position. Again, I don't agree with DEI as now being applied. An organization I belong to (Science Fiction & Fantasy Writers of America) has been handing out grants to BIPOC and other minority writers solely because of their status as such. I've objected to the policy, and some now consider me a radical conservative. | |||
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So Roland.... You approve of DEI until it affects you....how...uhm...liberal.... | |||
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