Two war criminals, one the American pedo president and the other Putin are going to meet in Alaska to iron out Ukraine's surrender terms.

Typical TACO president, yesterday was the deadline for Putin to agree to a ceasefire or his allies will face tariffs.

Well, I didn't see any China tariffs yesterday.'

The world laughs at Trump and Putin is playing him like a fiddle.

And he gave Gaza to NitanHitler!

Let's just go on the record now:

1. Putin will play Trump like a fiddle and Trump will leave the meeting praising Putin and his willingness to deal, his commitment to peace, etc.

2. Putin will end up being able to retain most, if not all, of what he gained militarily in the invasion.

3. Trump will end up condemning Zelensky for refusing to enthusiastically jump on board and will threaten and/or pull support for Ukraine.

Trump just wants to be able to declare that he ended the war, he could care less about the terms and whether it preserves Ukraine sovereignty. He needs something to get the conversation off of Epstein. Anyone that thinks Trump is headed to Alaska to lay down the law to Putin and play a tough hand . . . well they well deserve their status as a MAGAt.

TACO

Reminds me of his deal with Afghanistan, where he cut the formal Afghan government out of the meetings where he surrendered them to the Taliban. We were told that there would be some time before the takeover, that the Afghan army would continue to fight with the guys who would in months be taking over command, their weapons, and their paychecks. Biden finished the job by keeping to the agreement, and the rest is history.

Next he'll inform the Palestinian Authority of their new exile destination by social media post, and cut a seaside resort deal with Bibi. I idly wonder what Henry Kissinger would have thought about this.

I'd almost forgotten about the ICC warrant, not to be honored on US soil.

Peace, in our time...

just a question is trump giving back alaska to russia? the followers of the cult of the supreme leader might approve it lol

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Originally posted by Saeed:
And he gave Gaza to NitanHitler!

From my far removed seat it looks to me like Israel took Gaza. I didn't see a whole lot of giving.

I wish Trump every success in meeting with Vlad and ending the war. I think engagement and diplomacy is good. I hope i can look forward to more engagement between Trump and DPRK. Isolation and the cold shoulder doesn't seem to work.

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by Saeed:
And he gave Gaza to NitanHitler!

From my far removed seat it looks to me like Israel took Gaza. I didn't see a whole lot of giving.

I wish Trump every success in meeting with Vlad and ending the war. I think engagement and diplomacy is good. I hope i can look forward to more engagement between Trump and DPRK. Isolation and the cold shoulder doesn't seem to work.

without your weapons that will not have been that easy ...

Putin is meeting Trump in Alaska Monday, will he be bringing the Red Army.

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Originally posted by medved:

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by Saeed:
And he gave Gaza to NitanHitler!

From my far removed seat it looks to me like Israel took Gaza. I didn't see a whole lot of giving.

I wish Trump every success in meeting with Vlad and ending the war. I think engagement and diplomacy is good. I hope i can look forward to more engagement between Trump and DPRK. Isolation and the cold shoulder doesn't seem to work.

without your weapons that will not have been that easy ...

How can there be diplomacy when Ukraine is not parting, permitted a voice?

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by medved:

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by Saeed:
And he gave Gaza to NitanHitler!

From my far removed seat it looks to me like Israel took Gaza. I didn't see a whole lot of giving.

I wish Trump every success in meeting with Vlad and ending the war. I think engagement and diplomacy is good. I hope i can look forward to more engagement between Trump and DPRK. Isolation and the cold shoulder doesn't seem to work.

without your weapons that will not have been that easy ...

How can there be diplomacy when Ukraine is not parting, permitted a voice?

I think any talk is a good talk. The opportunity to look at someone over a glass of water instead of thru a rifle sight is a good opportunity. We have put quite a bit of money into Ukraine. I wouldn't call it a purchase, but it's certainly an investment. I'm comfortable with speaking to my opponent about my investment without the investment being there.

The Czechs would have disagreed with you.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
The Czechs would have disagreed with you.

and it works so good in palestine.

The Checks as well as the Palestinians and Ukraine don't remotely matter just like the Kurds, Armenians and other.

What matters to me is North American peace, prosperity and security.

Vlads time should have been over a long time ago. If Ukraine is the instrument to topple Vlad I'm for it. Otherwise that can continue to muddle on just like they always have. Gaza is a haven for Islamic Terrorism, a refuge for "Death to America ". If Israel is the instrument to topple Islamic Terrorism I'm for it.

Trump has my best wishes in his meeting with Vlad.

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Originally posted by Scott King:
The Checks as well as the Palestinians and Ukraine don't remotely matter just like the Kurds, Armenians and other.

What matters to me is North American peace, prosperity and security.

Vlads time should have been over a long time ago. If Ukraine is the instrument to topple Vlad I'm for it. Otherwise that can continue to muddle on just like they always have. Gaza is a haven for Islamic Terrorism, a refuge for "Death to America ". If Israel is the instrument to topple Islamic Terrorism I'm for it.

Trump has my best wishes in his meeting with Vlad.

you should says what matters to you is usa peace as your president has done nothing good for canada or mexico ...

i wish you the best but so far the support of your country despite wording in the news differently will not end well (to sum up trump is supporting putin )... only supporters of trump and putin can see good while the rest of the world is seeing nothing good in that meeting ... thus the reason there is a meeting in europe including ukraine ...

palestinians are not all islamic terrorists as your claim will mean now that all usa inhabitants are trump supporters: i do hope you can see the analogy ...

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Originally posted by Scott King:
The Checks as well as the Palestinians and Ukraine don't remotely matter just like the Kurds, Armenians and other.

What matters to me is North American peace, prosperity and security.

Vlads time should have been over a long time ago. If Ukraine is the instrument to topple Vlad I'm for it. Otherwise that can continue to muddle on just like they always have. Gaza is a haven for Islamic Terrorism, a refuge for "Death to America ". If Israel is the instrument to topple Islamic Terrorism I'm for it.

Trump has my best wishes in his meeting with Vlad.

It mattered bc by not including the Czechs we had WWII.

Israeli is just prolonging their war and becoming less secure, more isolated by the day.

You are just wrong.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by Scott King:
The Checks as well as the Palestinians and Ukraine don't remotely matter just like the Kurds, Armenians and other.

What matters to me is North American peace, prosperity and security.

Vlads time should have been over a long time ago. If Ukraine is the instrument to topple Vlad I'm for it. Otherwise that can continue to muddle on just like they always have. Gaza is a haven for Islamic Terrorism, a refuge for "Death to America ". If Israel is the instrument to topple Islamic Terrorism I'm for it.

Trump has my best wishes in his meeting with Vlad.

It mattered bc by not including the Czechs we had WWII.

Israeli is just prolonging their war and becoming less secure, more isolated by the day.

You are just wrong.

From the guy that believed the Afghans weren't all Taliban and wouldn't instantaneously revert two seconds after America left?

And not only that but thought America should remain in Afghanistan forever?

Trump's capitulation to Putin will read like Chamberlin's "negotiations" with Hitler. One thing has not changed in the last 85 years or so, you still can't bargain with an imperialistic madman.

Peace in the bigger picture is what brought America our prosperity in the postwar era, it very much matters to well being of the USA.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by Scott King:
The Checks as well as the Palestinians and Ukraine don't remotely matter just like the Kurds, Armenians and other.

What matters to me is North American peace, prosperity and security.

Vlads time should have been over a long time ago. If Ukraine is the instrument to topple Vlad I'm for it. Otherwise that can continue to muddle on just like they always have. Gaza is a haven for Islamic Terrorism, a refuge for "Death to America ". If Israel is the instrument to topple Islamic Terrorism I'm for it.

Trump has my best wishes in his meeting with Vlad.

It mattered bc by not including the Czechs we had WWII.

Israeli is just prolonging their war and becoming less secure, more isolated by the day.

You are just wrong.

the czechs and slovaks have/had a great wording about betrayal munich 1938 made by dalladier chamberlain and hitler/mussolini ... about us without us ... something to think about again and again ...

You all realize it was the British empire (including Canada) and France who gave Czechoslovakia to Hitler. The US had no involvement in that.

Are there some concerning parallels? Yes.

Trump wants a peace Prize. Well, giving up part of Ukraine to Putin and then forcing Ukraine to agree isn’t likely to accomplish that.

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Originally posted by crbutler:
You all realize it was the British empire (including Canada) and France who gave Czechoslovakia to Hitler. The US had no involvement in that.

Are there some concerning parallels? Yes.

Trump wants a peace Prize. Well, giving up part of Ukraine to Putin and then forcing Ukraine to agree isn’t likely to accomplish that.

Yes, I do, that is why I mentioned Chamberlin, he was the British PM.

My point was that Putin will not be satisfied with part of Ukraine, just like Hitler was not satisfied with Poland.

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My point was that Putin will not be satisfied with part of Ukraine, just like Hitler was not satisfied with Poland.

That's one point.

Another is why doesn't Trump know that, or worse - he does know that.

Assuming Trump knows, then what are the implications.

Putin is Trump's friend, where is the mystery? Anything for a friend.....

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Putin is Trump's friend, where is the mystery?

Uhhh? The mystery? Let me explain the obvious with some questions.

Is the friendship mutual?

Why does Trump consider Putin a friend, if that's so?

Does Putin have friends?

Does Trump have friends?

What other explanation is more logical given the evidence?

And so forth.

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by crbutler:
You all realize it was the British empire (including Canada) and France who gave Czechoslovakia to Hitler. The US had no involvement in that.

Are there some concerning parallels? Yes.

Trump wants a peace Prize. Well, giving up part of Ukraine to Putin and then forcing Ukraine to agree isn’t likely to accomplish that.

Yes, I do, that is why I mentioned Chamberlin, he was the British PM.

My point was that Putin will not be satisfied with part of Ukraine, just like Hitler was not satisfied with Poland.

hitler played with usa/uk and soviet union and got what he wanted for a while then the usa of the time declared war to nazi germany because of japanese attack to your soil not because of what nazis did to europe before ...

now you have a president that is cheering putin and willing to negociate the same way europe has done in the past and that did not work and putin will play trump puppet for a while then will continue the war and will expand with baltic states and finland ... mark my words ...

and let s not forget that the ex allies of usa that are part of nato are not very happy with trump speeches and positions...

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now you have a president that is cheering putin and willing to negociate the same way europe has done in the past and that did not work and putin will play trump puppet for a while then will continue the war and will expand with baltic states and finland ... mark my words ...

How? Exactly how is Vlad going to accomplish any of your predictions?

3 years in and Vlad cant defeat Ukraine. Yes the same Ukraine that was globally recognized as a "Top Ten" most fucked up nation ever. And Vlad can't beat em.

Vlads aircraft carrier is permanently in port, his tanks get cases of whirly gigs, his bombers are turbo prop and his soldiers are moronic cretins. So how?


Vlad is a paper tiger. The Great Russian Bear has no teeth.

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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now you have a president that is cheering putin and willing to negociate the same way europe has done in the past and that did not work and putin will play trump puppet for a while then will continue the war and will expand with baltic states and finland ... mark my words ...

How? Exactly how is Vlad going to accomplish any of your predictions?

3 years in and Vlad cant defeat Ukraine. Yes the same Ukraine that was globally recognized as a "Top Ten" most fucked up nation ever. And Vlad can't beat em.

Vlads aircraft carrier is permanently in port, his tanks get cases of whirly gigs, his bombers are turbo prop and his soldiers are moronic cretins. So how?


Vlad is a paper tiger. The Great Russian Bear has no teeth.

you should talk to your friends in finland and baltic states how is it going there and there is no threats ...

in giving breaks to putin you are helping him to recover but again you can think what you want on what i write and not seeing anything because it is me ...

in thinking because they are not able to put down ukraine they are weak is wrong as well it is only because ukraine dealt in the past with the russians that they know what is their fate if they are loosing.

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by medved:

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by Saeed:
And he gave Gaza to NitanHitler!

From my far removed seat it looks to me like Israel took Gaza. I didn't see a whole lot of giving.

I wish Trump every success in meeting with Vlad and ending the war. I think engagement and diplomacy is good. I hope i can look forward to more engagement between Trump and DPRK. Isolation and the cold shoulder doesn't seem to work.

without your weapons that will not have been that easy ...

How can there be diplomacy when Ukraine is not parting, permitted a voice?

I think any talk is a good talk. The opportunity to look at someone over a glass of water instead of thru a rifle sight is a good opportunity. We have put quite a bit of money into Ukraine. I wouldn't call it a purchase, but it's certainly an investment. I'm comfortable with speaking to my opponent about my investment without the investment being there.

if you think you will win in investing in a war there is a lot wars that should tell you first there is no winner and only losers and secondly an investment means nothing if you think about getting your money back in the ukraine war you will have a bad surprise but like the tariffs nothing new ...

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Originally posted by medved:

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by medved:

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by Saeed:
And he gave Gaza to NitanHitler!

From my far removed seat it looks to me like Israel took Gaza. I didn't see a whole lot of giving.

I wish Trump every success in meeting with Vlad and ending the war. I think engagement and diplomacy is good. I hope i can look forward to more engagement between Trump and DPRK. Isolation and the cold shoulder doesn't seem to work.

without your weapons that will not have been that easy ...

How can there be diplomacy when Ukraine is not parting, permitted a voice?

I think any talk is a good talk. The opportunity to look at someone over a glass of water instead of thru a rifle sight is a good opportunity. We have put quite a bit of money into Ukraine. I wouldn't call it a purchase, but it's certainly an investment. I'm comfortable with speaking to my opponent about my investment without the investment being there.

if you think you will win in investing in a war there is a lot wars that should tell you first there is no winner and only losers and secondly an investment means nothing if you think about getting your money back in the ukraine war you will have a bad surprise but like the tariffs nothing new ...

OK, so what I'm getting from all this is that english isn't even a second or third language for you.

Your gibberish in empty prophesy means nothing. Vlad has demonstrated no ability, no capability. Is Vlad a threat, I and everyone else thinks so. Can Vlad succeed? He hasn't shown so.

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by medved:

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by medved:

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by Saeed:
And he gave Gaza to NitanHitler!

From my far removed seat it looks to me like Israel took Gaza. I didn't see a whole lot of giving.

I wish Trump every success in meeting with Vlad and ending the war. I think engagement and diplomacy is good. I hope i can look forward to more engagement between Trump and DPRK. Isolation and the cold shoulder doesn't seem to work.

without your weapons that will not have been that easy ...

How can there be diplomacy when Ukraine is not parting, permitted a voice?

I think any talk is a good talk. The opportunity to look at someone over a glass of water instead of thru a rifle sight is a good opportunity. We have put quite a bit of money into Ukraine. I wouldn't call it a purchase, but it's certainly an investment. I'm comfortable with speaking to my opponent about my investment without the investment being there.

if you think you will win in investing in a war there is a lot wars that should tell you first there is no winner and only losers and secondly an investment means nothing if you think about getting your money back in the ukraine war you will have a bad surprise but like the tariffs nothing new ...

OK, so what I'm getting from all this is that english isn't even a second or third language for you.

Your gibberish in empty prophesy means nothing. Vlad has demonstrated no ability, no capability. Is Vlad a threat, I and everyone else thinks so. Can Vlad succeed? He hasn't shown so.

it is always the same when you are not getting the way you want you came always with the same gibberish story ... and yes you are right this is only my 4th language but doesnt mean you are not getting the message ...

good on you to think that putin is weak and good on you to think your supreme leader will fix the wars and you will get your money back as an investment ... now let s see how it goes on the 15th ...

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
Trump's capitulation to Putin will read like Chamberlin's "negotiations" with Hitler. One thing has not changed in the last 85 years or so, you still can't bargain with an imperialistic madman.

Peace in the bigger picture is what brought America our prosperity in the postwar era, it very much matters to well being of the USA.

The big difference to me is that when the English and French capitulated to Hitler, they did so from a substantial position of weakness relative to Germany. When Trump caves to Putin he will be doing so from a position of strength relative to Russia. Not sure how to explain that, e.g., authoritarian leader envy, Putin has pictures, Trump is just a fool. Probably a bit of all of the foregoing.

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Originally posted by MJines:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
Trump's capitulation to Putin will read like Chamberlin's "negotiations" with Hitler. One thing has not changed in the last 85 years or so, you still can't bargain with an imperialistic madman.

Peace in the bigger picture is what brought America our prosperity in the postwar era, it very much matters to well being of the USA.

The big difference to me is that when the English and French capitulated to Hitler, they did so from a substantial position of weakness relative to Germany. When Trump caves to Putin he will be doing so from a position of strength relative to Russia. Not sure how to explain that, e.g., authoritarian leader envy, Putin has pictures, Trump is just a fool. Probably a bit of all of the foregoing.

And THE ORANGE MAGA TURD had proven himself to be bought.

As NitanHitler did by ordering him to bomb Iran!

. . . it has been clear for months now that the Mossad has enough dirt on Trump that he is nothing more than an organ grinder’s monkey for Israel.

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

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Putin is Trump's friend, where is the mystery?

Uhhh? The mystery? Let me explain the obvious with some questions.

Is the friendship mutual?

Why does Trump consider Putin a friend, if that's so?

Does Putin have friends?

Does Trump have friends?

What other explanation is more logical given the evidence?

And so forth.

Sarcasm is not your first language I presume.

Neither of them, Trump nor Putin, knows the meaning of the word friendship. They both view people as a means to an end.

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

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Putin is Trump's friend, where is the mystery?

Uhhh? The mystery? Let me explain the obvious with some questions.

Is the friendship mutual?

Why does Trump consider Putin a friend, if that's so?

Does Putin have friends?

Does Trump have friends?

What other explanation is more logical given the evidence?

And so forth.

Sarcasm is not your first language I presume.

Neither of them, Trump nor Putin, knows the meaning of the word friendship. They both view people as a means to an end.

You all seem to forget one important fact.

Not long ago, Don Junior was in TV announcing that they do NOT need American banks.

Because they are getting all their money from Russia!

You think Russian banks would give THE MAGA ARSEHOLE preferential treatment if it wasn’t sanctioned by Putin??

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by Saeed:
And he gave Gaza to NitanHitler!

From my far removed seat it looks to me like Israel took Gaza. I didn't see a whole lot of giving.

I wish Trump every success in meeting with Vlad and ending the war. I think engagement and diplomacy is good. I hope i can look forward to more engagement between Trump and DPRK. Isolation and the cold shoulder doesn't seem to work.

I would agree with you if I thought this was about anything other than satisfying trump's burning desire to be awarded a Nobel Peace Prize...and his willingness to say or do just about anything to get one. trump doesn't give two shits about ending the war in Ukraine. It's just like everything else with him: what he can get out of it for himself.

He hasn't even invited Zelensky. It's hard to see how you end a war when one of the countries fighting it isn't included in peace talks.

Unlike trump, some Euro leaders understand that peace talks without Zelensky are a waste of time. Kind of like anybody with an IQ above 75.

https://www.npr.org/2025/08/10...alaska-ukraine-talks

Europeans should not have tagged along when the CIA installed Zelensky

I idly wonder if Trump can make his mind up whether he wants the full experience of being a wartime president and hero of his country, or getting a Nobel Peace Prize. If there was a way to do both, it would fit his contradictory style.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by Saeed:
And he gave Gaza to NitanHitler!

From my far removed seat it looks to me like Israel took Gaza. I didn't see a whole lot of giving.

I wish Trump every success in meeting with Vlad and ending the war. I think engagement and diplomacy is good. I hope i can look forward to more engagement between Trump and DPRK. Isolation and the cold shoulder doesn't seem to work.

I would agree with you if I thought this was about anything other than satisfying trump's burning desire to be awarded a Nobel Peace Prize...and his willingness to say or do just about anything to get one. trump doesn't give two shits about ending the war in Ukraine. It's just like everything else with him: what he can get out of it for himself.

He hasn't even invited Zelensky. It's hard to see how you end a war when one of the countries fighting it isn't included in peace talks.

I don't know why this meeting Alaska is being seen as a final solution. Everyone agrees that Ukraine is sovereign, they'll have to approve any finality.