Do you have a graph that shows how many insurrections have invaded the Capitol since Trump left office? Or maybe one that shows the number of Trump bibles sold daily since they hit the market?

whataboutism much?

I was thinking a graph showing both criminal and civil court cases that Trump has been involved in and outcomes of cases would informative

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
whataboutism much?

Coming from the guy who claims a sit in is the equivalent of J the 6th?

Damn Jeffe, you missed your calling as comedian.

So we just need another pandemic that kills a million Americans to make you happy?

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
I was thinking a graph showing both criminal and civil court cases that Trump has been involved in and outcomes of cases would informative

Or maybe copies of the indictments containing those 91 felony charges?

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/front...gainst-donald-trump/

I’d like to see whose ass all that data came out of, and some assurances that it wasn’t just some MAGATs wet dream plotted on “Hunters Laptop”.

I would venture a guess that the graph is fairly accurate.

Nobody on the right seems to be bragging about the money they've made in the markets under Biden. Wonder why? Those charts are looking pretty good in spite of all their doomsday conspiracies.

I do not have any symptom from the wing of the Party that killed, did not allow a vote on border security support led and passed by Senate Republicans.

Dr. Easter is the picture boy for a party hack and political dishonesty.

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
whataboutism much?

Coming from the guy who claims a sit in is the equivalent of J the 6th?

Damn Jeffe, you missed your calling as comedian.

Maybe a graph to show how many Americans killed or injured by illegals
Maybe a graph to show the amount of drugs coming across the border
Maybe a graph to show amount of taxpayers $ spent dealing with illegal immigrants, don't forget the $2.4 billion Hochul wants to spend in New York

and more whataboutism

show me a chart of covid deaths under Trump and Biden --

or one of all the new vax designed and made under biden vs trump..

i'll wait

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
and more whataboutism

show me a chart of covid deaths under Trump and Biden --

or one of all the new vax designed and made under biden vs trump..

i'll wait

Not sure what illegal immigration has to to do with Covid vaccines. Seems like a different agrument.

Wow! I post a chart on illegal immigration…a damning chart at that…and not a single relevant reply.

It is very relevant that your wing of the GOap lead by the person you are voting for killed a fix to your chart.

Joshua quit showing your ignorance. No sane conservative would have supported that bill. Yes while Lankford is superior to a Democrat, I question his conservatism. It was a bad bill and resides exactly where it should…in file 13.

The primary drafter was a conservative.

The Border Patrol supported it.

It would be have passed but for President Tru p not wanting President Biden get a win.

You are a lier and a hypocrite.

Let the House vote on it.

It was a strong, good bill they could pass with both Dem and GOP votes.

You are the problem not President Biden.

You are a party hack.

A bipartisan bill supported by the Border Patrol. Even if it was not ideal, why wouldn't you pass it and then work on efforts to improve it? That's an improvement over the current situation. The answer . . . Orange Jesus went up to the top of Mt Sinai and God told him to tell the GOP not to pass the bill since OJ liked having immigration as an election issue (maybe his only election issue). You don't like the continuing situation at the border, go look in the mirror.

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Originally posted by zebrazapper:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
and more whataboutism

show me a chart of covid deaths under Trump and Biden --

or one of all the new vax designed and made under biden vs trump..

i'll wait

Not sure what illegal immigration has to to do with Covid vaccines. Seems like a different agrument.

True enough, but it does seem to be the same argument that Jeffe has been making for the last few days. I would sum it up as "look over there", but that is just my opinion, I don't speak for Jeffe

Your chart is spot on.

I don't see any of the libs here offering to house and feed these illegals.

This inspired me to send a 4 figure check to the Trump and Ted Cruz campaign effort.

Close the border to illegal immigration. Legal immigration is fine - go through the legal process. We welcome legal immigrants here in Texas.

We like to ship the illegals to states that want them, then cry when they are asked to take a few thousand when we have absorbs well over 2 million in Texas.

Trump will fix this within days of being sworn in.

Get ready for it as Biden has zero chance of being elected.

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by zebrazapper:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
and more whataboutism

show me a chart of covid deaths under Trump and Biden --

or one of all the new vax designed and made under biden vs trump..

i'll wait

Not sure what illegal immigration has to to do with Covid vaccines. Seems like a different agrument.

True enough, but it does seem to be the same argument that Jeffe has been making for the last few days. I would sum it up as "look over there", but that is just my opinion, I don't speak for Jeffe

Weird -- i called Mike out for his "Whataboutism" in the FIRST POST past the OP where HE was asking for additional, unrelated graphs, and you want to make me calling out that issue as ME having that issue .. then I went with the flow of the thread...

but, hey, you do you, boo
when will you be calling out Mike for the EXACT same thing? oh, you won't

I see there is absolutely no attribution to the source of that graph. The link goes to the same thing “This alone could sink Biden” or words to that effect.

No source material, nothing to show that it wasn’t thrown together by an utterly partisan nutjob, or perhaps Tucker Carlson over a bottle of vodka that he brought back from his highly suspicious trip to Moscow.

Sources and verification please, or else it’s simply more MAGAt bullshit.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by zebrazapper:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
and more whataboutism

show me a chart of covid deaths under Trump and Biden --

or one of all the new vax designed and made under biden vs trump..

i'll wait

Not sure what illegal immigration has to to do with Covid vaccines. Seems like a different agrument.

True enough, but it does seem to be the same argument that Jeffe has been making for the last few days. I would sum it up as "look over there", but that is just my opinion, I don't speak for Jeffe

Weird -- i called Mike out for his "Whataboutism" in the FIRST POST past the OP where HE was asking for additional, unrelated graphs, and you want to make me calling out that issue as ME having that issue .. then I went with the flow of the thread...

but, hey, you do you, boo
when will you be calling out Mike for the EXACT same thing? oh, you won't

I have battled MM for his position of the border not bring a crisis. However, unlike Dr. Easter he does not complain about, and act in bad faith for a solution. You may not like his stats, but they are accurate.

Mike would and did accept a bi-partisan legislative solution.

Dr. Easter is the one screaming this had to stop while supporting those who block the solution.

The GOP, MAGA wing does not care about the border. They care about obstruction to permit a political crisis to continue for electoral gain. The goal is not border security. The priority is seeing President Trump re-elected.

A border security bill passed with no/partisan votes would be a tremendous blow to this end game.

Thus, De. Easter has no integrity. Of course, we have known this since Jan 6. He states the election was legitimate. He implies the rules were broken to allow President Biden to win. This is false and established in Federal and State Supreme Courts across the U.S. He presses the voter harvesting lie.

Therefore, he is a lier and a party hack.

He does not care about border security. He cares that the Christian Nationalists candidate is elected.

Therefore, he can take his non-source map, and false outrage and choke on it.

I know who he is. As Rick said in Casablanca, “Ge is lucky the bar is open to him.”

Oh, and Texas date lawyers admitted yesterday in court the new attempt to take Federal power was, “ perhaps too far.”

In court, when the opposition concedes that perhaps the other maids is right that is a bad sign.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/0...igration-5th-circuit

Instead, of getting behind a real solution. Texas GOP is busy creating constitutional crisis to destabilize the border and intra government relations just to win an election.

Attack the poster, look over there, change the topic, anything but outrage that our president is failing our country in the simplest of manners.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by zebrazapper:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
and more whataboutism

show me a chart of covid deaths under Trump and Biden --

or one of all the new vax designed and made under biden vs trump..

i'll wait

Not sure what illegal immigration has to to do with Covid vaccines. Seems like a different agrument.

True enough, but it does seem to be the same argument that Jeffe has been making for the last few days. I would sum it up as "look over there", but that is just my opinion, I don't speak for Jeffe

Weird -- i called Mike out for his "Whataboutism" in the FIRST POST past the OP where HE was asking for additional, unrelated graphs, and you want to make me calling out that issue as ME having that issue .. then I went with the flow of the thread...

but, hey, you do you, boo
when will you be calling out Mike for the EXACT same thing? oh, you won't

For the record, I disagree with MM about the border and think it should be secured.

Yes, I thought it was comical that you were calling out anyone for whataboutism after our debate on on sit ins.


Maybe I have a weird sense of humor Jeffe, struck my funnybone though. Seemed to me that comparing the J 6th violent attack on the Capital to a sit in is a fairly dramatic example of whataboutism, but as always, that is just my opinion.

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This inspired me to send a 4 figure check to the Trump and Ted Cruz campaign effort.

So how Trump Bibles have you sprung for?

Peddling them door to door yet?

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by zebrazapper:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
and more whataboutism

show me a chart of covid deaths under Trump and Biden --

or one of all the new vax designed and made under biden vs trump..

i'll wait

Not sure what illegal immigration has to to do with Covid vaccines. Seems like a different agrument.

True enough, but it does seem to be the same argument that Jeffe has been making for the last few days. I would sum it up as "look over there", but that is just my opinion, I don't speak for Jeffe

Weird -- i called Mike out for his "Whataboutism" in the FIRST POST past the OP where HE was asking for additional, unrelated graphs, and you want to make me calling out that issue as ME having that issue .. then I went with the flow of the thread...

but, hey, you do you, boo
when will you be calling out Mike for the EXACT same thing? oh, you won't

For the record, I disagree with MM about the border and think it should be secured.

Yes, I thought it was comical that you were calling out anyone for whataboutism after our debate on on sit ins.


Maybe I have a weird sense of humor Jeffe, struck my funnybone though. Seemed to me that comparing the J 6th violent attack on the Capital to a sit in is a fairly dramatic example of whataboutism, but as always, that is just my opinion.

I've never seen any posts by Jines advocating that the border shouldn't be secured?

I'm the one says we should to let them in. Which is way different than saying the border ought not be secured.

You fucking idiots. These people do the jobs Americans won't do. They bus our tables, mow our lawns, build our homes and apartments, pick our crops and on and on and on. They don't come here to do crime. They come here to work and support their families.

Why can you asshats not understand that? And, why can you asshats not understand it's a positive for the US?

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by zebrazapper:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
and more whataboutism

show me a chart of covid deaths under Trump and Biden --

or one of all the new vax designed and made under biden vs trump..

i'll wait

Not sure what illegal immigration has to to do with Covid vaccines. Seems like a different agrument.

True enough, but it does seem to be the same argument that Jeffe has been making for the last few days. I would sum it up as "look over there", but that is just my opinion, I don't speak for Jeffe

Weird -- i called Mike out for his "Whataboutism" in the FIRST POST past the OP where HE was asking for additional, unrelated graphs, and you want to make me calling out that issue as ME having that issue .. then I went with the flow of the thread...

but, hey, you do you, boo
when will you be calling out Mike for the EXACT same thing? oh, you won't

For the record, I disagree with MM about the border and think it should be secured.

Yes, I thought it was comical that you were calling out anyone for whataboutism after our debate on on sit ins.


Maybe I have a weird sense of humor Jeffe, struck my funnybone though. Seemed to me that comparing the J 6th violent attack on the Capital to a sit in is a fairly dramatic example of whataboutism, but as always, that is just my opinion.

I've never seen any posts by Jines advocating that the border shouldn't be secured?

I'm the one says we should to let them in. Which is way different than saying the border ought not be secured.

You fucking idiots. These people do the jobs Americans won't do. They bus our tables, mow our lawns, build our homes and apartments, pick our crops and on and on and on. They don't come here to do crime. They come here to work and support their families.

Why can you asshats not understand that? And, why can you asshats not understand it's a positive for the US?

You seem unhappy. You are not wrong, good luck finding a white guy to do my yard, at least the way i want it. The guys coming in from Africa and the middle east wont be trimming my hedges. Are there good illegals? of course. Are there bad ones? of course. On the whole I think its hard to say illegal immigration is a positive. Cesar Chavez might have had this one right.

From the "You Can't Make This Shit Up" Department:

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A Texas National Guard member was arrested and charged with human smuggling near the U.S.-Mexico border after he allegedly turned around at a Border Patrol checkpoint, then led state troopers on a high-speed chase that ended when police deployed road spikes, according to authorities and Kinney County court records.

Texas Department of Public Safety troopers arrested Savion Amari Donovan Johnson, 26, Sunday afternoon on Highway 90 in Kinney County after they pursued him at speeds of more than 100 miles per hour for 15 miles, according to arrest affidavits. He stopped mid-chase to drop off a young Hispanic man before speeding past cars on the wrong side of the highway, the affidavits said.
...

Johnson’s arrest was first reported Wednesday by NewsNation, which also reported that he had been deployed to Eagle Pass as part of the state’s multibillion-dollar border initiative, Operation Lone Star.

Link

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by zebrazapper:

quote:

Originally posted by jeffeosso:
and more whataboutism

show me a chart of covid deaths under Trump and Biden --

or one of all the new vax designed and made under biden vs trump..

i'll wait

Not sure what illegal immigration has to to do with Covid vaccines. Seems like a different agrument.

True enough, but it does seem to be the same argument that Jeffe has been making for the last few days. I would sum it up as "look over there", but that is just my opinion, I don't speak for Jeffe

Weird -- i called Mike out for his "Whataboutism" in the FIRST POST past the OP where HE was asking for additional, unrelated graphs, and you want to make me calling out that issue as ME having that issue .. then I went with the flow of the thread...

but, hey, you do you, boo
when will you be calling out Mike for the EXACT same thing? oh, you won't

For the record, I disagree with MM about the border and think it should be secured.

Yes, I thought it was comical that you were calling out anyone for whataboutism after our debate on on sit ins.


Maybe I have a weird sense of humor Jeffe, struck my funnybone though. Seemed to me that comparing the J 6th violent attack on the Capital to a sit in is a fairly dramatic example of whataboutism, but as always, that is just my opinion.

I've never seen any posts by Jines advocating that the border shouldn't be secured?

I'm the one says we should to let them in. Which is way different than saying the border ought not be secured.

You fucking idiots. These people do the jobs Americans won't do. They bus our tables, mow our lawns, build our homes and apartments, pick our crops and on and on and on. They don't come here to do crime. They come here to work and support their families.

Why can you asshats not understand that? And, why can you asshats not understand it's a positive for the US?

They also fix potholes on our roads in the middle of the night like the six killed when the bridge in Baltimore came down.

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Originally posted by zebrazapper:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

quote:

Originally posted by zebrazapper:

quote:

Originally posted by jeffeosso:
and more whataboutism

show me a chart of covid deaths under Trump and Biden --

or one of all the new vax designed and made under biden vs trump..

i'll wait

Not sure what illegal immigration has to to do with Covid vaccines. Seems like a different agrument.

True enough, but it does seem to be the same argument that Jeffe has been making for the last few days. I would sum it up as "look over there", but that is just my opinion, I don't speak for Jeffe

Weird -- i called Mike out for his "Whataboutism" in the FIRST POST past the OP where HE was asking for additional, unrelated graphs, and you want to make me calling out that issue as ME having that issue .. then I went with the flow of the thread...

but, hey, you do you, boo
when will you be calling out Mike for the EXACT same thing? oh, you won't

For the record, I disagree with MM about the border and think it should be secured.

Yes, I thought it was comical that you were calling out anyone for whataboutism after our debate on on sit ins.


Maybe I have a weird sense of humor Jeffe, struck my funnybone though. Seemed to me that comparing the J 6th violent attack on the Capital to a sit in is a fairly dramatic example of whataboutism, but as always, that is just my opinion.

I've never seen any posts by Jines advocating that the border shouldn't be secured?

I'm the one says we should to let them in. Which is way different than saying the border ought not be secured.

You fucking idiots. These people do the jobs Americans won't do. They bus our tables, mow our lawns, build our homes and apartments, pick our crops and on and on and on. They don't come here to do crime. They come here to work and support their families.

Why can you asshats not understand that? And, why can you asshats not understand it's a positive for the US?

You seem unhappy. You are not wrong, good luck finding a white guy to do my yard, at least the way i want it. The guys coming in from Africa and the middle east wont be trimming my hedges. Are there good illegals? of course. Are there bad ones? of course. On the whole I think its hard to say illegal immigration is a positive. Cesar Chavez might have had this one right.

I seem unhappy? You're the one with your panties all wadded up.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by zebrazapper:

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

quote:

Originally posted by zebrazapper:

quote:

Originally posted by jeffeosso:
and more whataboutism

show me a chart of covid deaths under Trump and Biden --

or one of all the new vax designed and made under biden vs trump..

i'll wait

Not sure what illegal immigration has to to do with Covid vaccines. Seems like a different agrument.

True enough, but it does seem to be the same argument that Jeffe has been making for the last few days. I would sum it up as "look over there", but that is just my opinion, I don't speak for Jeffe

Weird -- i called Mike out for his "Whataboutism" in the FIRST POST past the OP where HE was asking for additional, unrelated graphs, and you want to make me calling out that issue as ME having that issue .. then I went with the flow of the thread...

but, hey, you do you, boo
when will you be calling out Mike for the EXACT same thing? oh, you won't

For the record, I disagree with MM about the border and think it should be secured.

Yes, I thought it was comical that you were calling out anyone for whataboutism after our debate on on sit ins.


Maybe I have a weird sense of humor Jeffe, struck my funnybone though. Seemed to me that comparing the J 6th violent attack on the Capital to a sit in is a fairly dramatic example of whataboutism, but as always, that is just my opinion.

I've never seen any posts by Jines advocating that the border shouldn't be secured?

I'm the one says we should to let them in. Which is way different than saying the border ought not be secured.

You fucking idiots. These people do the jobs Americans won't do. They bus our tables, mow our lawns, build our homes and apartments, pick our crops and on and on and on. They don't come here to do crime. They come here to work and support their families.

Why can you asshats not understand that? And, why can you asshats not understand it's a positive for the US?

You seem unhappy. You are not wrong, good luck finding a white guy to do my yard, at least the way i want it. The guys coming in from Africa and the middle east wont be trimming my hedges. Are there good illegals? of course. Are there bad ones? of course. On the whole I think its hard to say illegal immigration is a positive. Cesar Chavez might have had this one right.

I seem unhappy? You're the one with your panties all wadded up.

Read your post. Read my post. I think you have me wrong.