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I ask because you are vehemently convinced the religious are corrupt. Numerous people sent this video to me today. It was made three months ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCGfE9yMnXc ~Ann   | ||
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If you believe this Ann….?  | |||
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Ann decided some time back that rational thought and a fact-based world just weren't her "thing" and crawled deep into the most laughable conspiracies and off-the-wall bullshit there is on offer; there she pitched her tent. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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The video was posted 17 hours ago The time in PA yesterday when the shooting started was 6:15 PM I checked the time in Butler PA now - 2:40 PM That's over 20 hours since the event. I would have to see proof that the guy with the visions/prophesy did the video 3 months ago, but waited to post it after it happened. Occam's Razor: "The simplest explanation is usually the best one." Occam was a philosopher. His explanation certainly applies to mystics or mysticism. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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"Wackadoodle" pretty well covers it, I think. Bill. | |||
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Wow. There's no way I'm going to watch that more than once, but I believe he said Trump would have an awakening or a re awakening and fervently turn to Jesus. I'm certainly all for it, but I think I'll stand by and cautiously wait and see. If yesterday was similar to the Apostle Paul's road to Damascus moment that'd be nice, but,......  | |||
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And living in your tent: Joe Biden on 7.8.2024: "We’re done talking about the debate, it’s time to put Trump in a bullseye." ~Ann | |||
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You mean like trump supporters did to HRC in 2016? https://thehill.com/blogs/blog...sign-at-trump-event/ Are you so seriously crazy and/or stupid that you really think President Biden had something to do with the attempt on trump's life?  -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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I have never seen a hunting related post from mangine/vagine/whatever. Nothing. It political posts. This goes for a few others. Much like they claim dht did on 6 Jan was incitement so was what haiesnudfig, daughter showering dear leader potatoe said. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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I have, he's a hunter, a shooter and my fellow Alaskan. As to your second paragraph,.... huh what? | |||
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DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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Thanks for the catch on the spelling BFF I fixed it. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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I guess it baffles me that any gun owner would support it vite for the blue team. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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I know lots here. I have neighbors and friends that have big rifles, shoot big moose, run jet boats in skinny, rocky rivers and vote blue.  In the same vein , ( and I'll emphasize I do not want to insult my friends here,it baffles me that any Christian , patriotic, American man would vote for Trump. Nevermind his failures as POTUS previously, Trump with his own words called for the suspension of the Constitution, has advocated military tribunals for his fellow citizens and will pardon January 6th convicts. Me? I will never, ever be associated with, support or vote for that kind of person for any government seat. | |||
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The cult is alive & well. | |||
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I 100% agree with Scott here. I am a hunter, shooter, outdoorsman etc. and even though I do not like Biden at all and think he is unfit for office, I in good conscious cannot vote for Trump for the same reasons that Scott said. So with that said if I want my vote to count for something I will have to plug my nose and vote for Biden, as repulsive as that is it is my only choice. I know people have told me I can just not vote for the presidency or vote someone else, well for me that doesn't work because I have always told people that if you don't vote then I do not want to hear complaints from you on the politicians. If you can't take the time or moral energy to cast your vote then I do not have to listen to you so my own morals are I have to pick one of the two major candidates and vote for them, at least then I can have the right to bitch when I vote wrong and that is a pretty good bet that I will be wrong! | |||
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It's quite settling (for lack of a better word) to me to see there are several real conservatives herein and they speak up. I more than hope such numbers/ratio represents something in the population of conservatives. It's not just that, given the crisis, you would vote Dem. That just says that you recognize the depth of it. Whatever deemed damage that Biden or progressives can be fixed. The most important thing is to get rid of Trump, and of course I mean by vote. There is a valid conversation going on that in order to fix GOPer/MAGA ism losing at the polls is the best and really only way. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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https://youtube.com/shorts/3zj...?si=CLMzbgIxPUDDZmRs These kids are great! Watch them talk about and imitate Donald Trump, ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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It's quite settling (for lack of a better word) to me to see there are several real conservatives herein and they speak up. There are still folks around who behave with integrity, a quality sadly lacking and undervalued in government circles. | |||
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I'm pretty sure I would enjoying sharing a camp with either Scott or MtElkHunter. | |||
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Any true conservative independent minded rural associated personal-freedom-loving person that can’t see that any Republican, regardless of their personal flaws, in control of the executive branch is superior to any Democrat in executive control… …1) I have to question whether they fit the description above… …or 2) I have to question their intelligence. Spend a week on my ranch in South Texas and you will vote for a spotted hog for POTUS as long as he is Republican. Well, I take that back. First you would have to see the stark difference of a period when any (R) has been in control for a while for comparison. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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I'm freedom loving, for sure. How is it that Trump, regardless of his personal flaws, going to affect my personal freedom or yours? Trump's personal flaws are a minor thing compared to Trumpism as a whole. One example I can think of quickly is that I hold onto hope that someday I can fish in clean rivers in south Georgia. That's a long shot with either party in control, but it ain't gonna happen for sure with republicans. I could probably think of several things, re freedom. But for another example, I would like to have freedom derived from the knowledge that my government, at the top, is acting in ways that serve the country as a whole, and all, and perhaps the world, and not the worrying knowledge that my governance, from the top, is utterly corrupt, nothing they do or say can be trusted as truth or otherwise. Trumpism and Trump in particular are absolutely untrustworthy. They have earned it. I know that Trumpsters FEEL that way now, and FEEL that Trump can fix it. So, I know how you FEEL. The fact is that the way you FEEL is not reality as I know it. There's way too many lies behind those FEELINGS. I would like the freedom to say, sincerely, that your FEELINGS are not my problem. But, in fact, you have somehow made it my problem. The burden on the country of untrustworthiness is absolutely anti-freedom. The "stark difference" you mention, I take it that you mean in the future, for comparison. That's what we are worried about. In control for a while. If say, 2/3 of your goals are accomplished. We don't have to wait, or speculate. All we have to do is listen to what advocates of Trumpism say now. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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You can see above that trumps personal flaws aren't mentioned. It's Trump's professional/ political flaws that draw a no vote. | |||
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Its both for me, personal and policy flaws, no way I can support Trump. | |||
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I am not actually a fan of trump. However when I see what the blue team has to offer I would rather vote for a syphillitic whore than anything the blue team has to offer. I am often reminded of what an old GF told me when Obama was running for his first term and I commented that “we are faced with the lesser of two evils”. She corrected me “we are faced with the evil of two lessers”. What saddens me is that this is what we are faced with and all that we can come up with on either side. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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First off, I am totally an independent, I am not a republican or a democrat. I vote for the person and not the party. Even thou I am an independent, when I look back at my voting I side with the conservative republicans about 80% of the time. I see to many people who are so party aligned so that they will only vote for the candidate in their party. As an independent I can see a lot of good and bad in party's ideals in both parties. Neither one is perfect, also neither one is horrible. As Lane pointed out that if I spent a week on his ranch I would be voting republican, well I grew up on a Ranch in Montana and not Texas and we were raised to judge a man or woman by his/her word and actions not by what groups or affiliations they belong to. I know some people who belong to organizations that I do not and will never support, however, the people are honest, good people and even though we may have different views I respect and support them. The flip side is I also know people who have the same views as me but are lying, cheaters assholes that I do not respect or support. These are the type of people who I do not or will ever support or respect and do not associate with. I consider Trump in the latter group. This was not always the case. I voted for Trump in the last two elections, however, after all I have seen of Trump in the last few years, my own morals and ethics tell me I cannot support him. Trump is the kind of person who I would not go out of my way to piss on his grave so if that is the case how in the world can I cast my vote for him. As I said in my previous post I do not like Biden and wish there was anyone else but there is not so Biden gets my reluctant vote. | |||
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Exactly. Anyone who can’t see that makes me scratch my head. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Lane, then for you the ends justify the means. In other words, you do not care about who you vote for as long as in the end a republican wins. | |||
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What I care about more than anything is to keep 10,000’s of people from walking through, trashing, and making my south Texas ranch unsafe. Trump did an excellent job at that. But in a way you are correct. A Dem is a rubber stamp to bloated idiotic bureaucracy that runs the country. Having ANY Republican in there brings some sensible change to that. Trump is by no means perfect. But, he also hasn’t enriched himself on selling our country for the last 50 years either. When it comes to personal qualities I see zero evidence that Biden is superior. Beyond that I do happen to agree with 80+% of Trumps policy. I agree with 0% of Biden’s. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Lane we will have to agree to disagree on this one. My analogy of this in hunting lingo is the hunter that has to get the trophy at all costs. Even if you have to violate moral, ethical or even legal things, the goal is to get the trophy. As long as the hunter gets his trophy how he got it makes no difference. I disagree with this thought process. I would and have not taken trophy's because the path to get them was not moral or ethical. To me the path is more important than the end result. That is my personnel choice and I know that a lot of people do not see it that way, but it is the way I have lived my whole life, and I am not about to change now even if the other choice is painful. | |||
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I don't have any doubt that you would vote for a spotted hog.  -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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How many times have we heard and used the phrase "lesser of two evils"? https://youtu.be/Y-aPp7Kiiyg?si=mGVut5LMucsaca3M The Lesser of Two Weevils - Master and Commander ============================================== It probably means nothing anymore re politics, except perhaps comparing Trump and Vance: https://youtu.be/4pYSjxZfB6A?si=newT3PUo7LLdnRMU The Snake - We know a NeverTrumper when we see one, Donald. He may have shed his skin but the bite is coming. https://youtu.be/40BCMaQDRPk?si=_nGxKbK2dHa2-Qpr&t=59 RNC Night 2: Haley Endorses Trump | Babydog’s Big Moment | Rudy Takes A Tumble ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Please read my whole post again where I go on to explain we are caught with the EVIL OF TWO LESSERS. You have the reading comprehension cactus. You are a show in for a cabinet post of the doddering fool wins. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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Your prerogative sir. But it’s mine to question your judgement. BTW…the hunting trophy scenario is a poor analogy as I am in total agreement with you about that and see zero correlation. There is too much at stake with this election and leaving a Democrat in the executive branch is worse than painful…it is equivalent to suicide. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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I'm sorry to read that you FEEL that way. Emotional passion is a strong driver in the opinions and actions of cultist extremists. Don't you agree that explains a lot? ============================================ BTW, MtElkHunter just gave a practical example of the end justifies the means rationale. It is a good example comparison with Trumpism, IMO. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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This election is not about the guy in the Whitehouse. What important is the se rate races as tut will decide the makeup of the USSC for over a generation. The doddering old fool or Cheeto Jesus is not that important. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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Your agreement confirms my assessment of it having zero correlation. Thank you. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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The bureaucracy runs the country (sadly) and the executive branch commands the bureaucracy. Getting rid of a Democratic controlled executive branch is the most important. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Yea, for sure full implementation of Project 2025 would be practically impossible with a "Democratic controlled executive branch". ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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