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15 July 2025, 19:59
LHeym500
Trump Administration erasing history
So “erasing” monuments to leaders of a slave rebellion is destroying history. We should respect history.

However, erasing a trans and bi people from a monument against violence is…

https://www.erininthemorning.c...le-trump-now-erasing
15 July 2025, 20:23
tomahawker
No parent or grandparent hopes and prays for gay/trans/bi offspring. It does not happen. Read period. Doctor, farmer, ball player yes. And of course healthy. Healthy hail and hardy. No I don’t think gay/bi/trans should be illegal, not at all. Yes I would love any child born to my family but to say I would be proud they’re gay…no. Folks hope and pray for healthy babies.
15 July 2025, 21:04
LHeym500
Most parents just wish for their children to be safe and healthy.

If you are not a parent of a gay person how do you know what all those parents want.

You are the reason why that monument matters. Here we have the Fed government erasing trans and gay folks who resisted violence and did so peacefully.

Like the Tuskegee Airmen were erased by this Regime.

The only history these types want preserve are the testaments to the Lost Cause Myth.

Again, it’s history. You can’t erase history is the argument of the pro Slave Rebellion monuments. Well, this is history.

Being gay is not unhealthy. I know a lot of proud parents of gay people. Gay people as a class are a lot more “healthier” than you infected w hate.
16 July 2025, 00:27
tomahawker
Stop it. No one here is hating. Be proud they’re courageous smart successful and happy. But no one is proud their offspring is gay/bi/trans. That’s not hating that’s reality. It’s not normal it will never be normal. And if it is we will go extinct. Again love them and cherish them. It’s just not something to be celebrated. First steps, first day of school, graduation, promotion…you get the point.
16 July 2025, 00:41
LHeym500
The people I’m thinking about their parents worth not change them. Your live is not with much.


The people I’m thinking about are second in virtue only to the embodiment of the Messiah.

They are much better human beings than you and I.

I used to say, “I wish I had a magic wand and could make gayness disappear.”

I was wrong. This monument teaches I was wrong. It is more wrong to censor, edit or then the Monuments to the Lost Cause lie.

Funny, when the logic is applied to something else.

There is nothing wrong w these people. However, there is a lot wrong w you.

These people are not a disease, they are not a burden, they are not a problem, they are not some insect to hide in the dark corners of society as a class. They are human beings. They are US citizens just like you and me.

Citizens that have been attacked, killed, harmed, legislated against, vilified who as Daniel said, “Have done no hurt.”

However, hurt sure has been visited upon them.
16 July 2025, 01:17
tomahawker
Sure.
16 July 2025, 01:39
jeffeosso
Wow. We managed to wrap lost cause myth into this? Dang

As a parent of a gay child, who officiated at their wedding. Mind your business

Acceptance ≠ cause for celebration

However, I celebrated their marriage and having someone to love them. I had little more say in the matter than what you ate for breakfast

Some folks are forever meddling


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16 July 2025, 04:02
jeffeosso
quote:
Originally posted by LHeym500:


Citizens that have been attacked, killed, harmed, legislated against, vilified who as Daniel said, “Have done no hurt.”



do you often use a book of fables in your law practice? I wasn't aware that Kentucky was a theocracy.. live and learn, i guess


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16 July 2025, 06:57
LHeym500
Dabbles? Violence against our Gay, Trans, and by citizens are not tables.

Welcome to the liars club.

Now, I’ve called you a lier.

Those monuments to the Slavers Rebellion are part of the Lost Cause Myth.

When communities and folks started to question them folks on here and in public yelled, “You cannot erase history.”

This monument and the violence it stands in defiance of is history.

https://www.congress.gov/118/m...0-20240321-SD011.pdf

I remember not long ago here posting the story of a young trans student forced to you the boys bathroom only to be beaten to death by he peers.

https://www.hrc.org/news/honor...after-school-beating

Anyone who calls this violence fable is telling lies.
16 July 2025, 07:54
jeffeosso
quote:
Originally posted by LHeym500:
Dabbles? Violence against our Gay, Trans, and by citizens are not tables.


1 no one but you said dabbles
2 no one but you said tables
3 do better
4 go reread my comment on fables. You might need to diagram it


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the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
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16 July 2025, 22:21
TomP
quote:
Originally posted by LHeym500:
So “erasing” monuments to leaders of a slave rebellion is destroying history. We should respect history.

However, erasing a trans and bi people from a monument against violence is…

https://www.erininthemorning.c...le-trump-now-erasing


Selective erasure. Restoring Confederate monuments is OK with MAGA.
It probably should be, along with those for MAGA's detractors.


TomP

Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right.

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16 July 2025, 22:40
Scott King
I have less than no interest in ultra small fractions of our nation having national monuments and recognition. This is ridiculous.

We remove the recognition of real persons and moments like Jeffersons Birthday and Washington's birthday to stand up and salute Juneteent and Stonewall. Roll Eyes nilly

National holidays, monuments, memorials etc should be for and represent the nation, not the fringe.
16 July 2025, 22:52
jeffeosso
Yeah, reestablishing confederate statues and led by the fed seems a dumb idea


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476AR,
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17 July 2025, 07:19
JTEX
There is something terribly wrong with little lord fontleroy.....


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17 July 2025, 07:22
jeffeosso
quote:
Originally posted by JTEX:
There is something terribly wrong with little lord fontleroy.....


.


Jim,
one has to ADMIT there's a problem before healing begins

but, according to his press releases, he's NEVER wrong .. even on the price of a dozen eggs


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
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18 July 2025, 00:08
LHeym500
Guilty, of calling out hypocrisy.
18 July 2025, 03:11
jeffeosso
quote:
Originally posted by LHeym500:
Guilty, of calling out hypocrisy.


yeaaaaaah

I stand behind my original post -- let us know when you can factually defend yourself .. like your LIES about the 2017 tax cuts

quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by JTEX:
There is something terribly wrong with little lord fontleroy.....


.


Jim,
one has to ADMIT there's a problem before healing begins

but, according to his press releases, he's NEVER wrong .. even on the price of a dozen eggs


you might notice, i called out your BEHAVOIRS and called them lies ... i didn't label you a "lier"


opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
18 July 2025, 18:40
Magine Enigam
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:

you might notice, i called out your BEHAVOIRS and called them lies ... i didn't label you a "lier"



Well, that's friggin interesting.

Trying to make distinctions you don't understand. I think it shows that you paid attention to something I said, past.

It's nice to know that I have influenced you, but I can do so little with your understanding a principle.

BTW, for your edification: ed·i·fi·ca·tion
/ˌedəfəˈkāSH(ə)n/
nounformal
the instruction or improvement of a person morally or intellectually.
"the idea that art's main purpose is to supply moral uplift and edification"

What's the difference in calling someone a liar and saying he tells lies?

AI Overview
Punishing Fallacies: Part 2: Detecting a distinction without ...
"A distinction without a difference" describes a situation where two things are presented as being different, but in reality, they are essentially the same and have no practical or meaningful distinction. It's a situation where language or a perceived difference obscures the fundamental sameness of the things being compared.

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Just remember, jeffee, we're here to help you, both morally and intellectually.


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“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
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Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


19 July 2025, 05:08
M.Shy
Ultimately, everyone who is expecting and raising children, hopes for normal healthy growing up with some fear of kids getting into alcohol, drugs or turning weird aka gay, lesbian or weird transgender and there is a reason…we want continuation of our genes and these turnouts usually don’t allow that particular procreation
Nothing more, nothing less

And yes, we still gonna love them but nowhere near as if they turned out normal


Never been lost, just confused here and there for month or two
19 July 2025, 06:12
JTEX
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by JTEX:
There is something terribly wrong with little lord fontleroy.....


.


Jim,
one has to ADMIT there's a problem before healing begins

but, according to his press releases, he's NEVER wrong .. even on the price of a dozen eggs


Agreed! The little lord is a college edumacated, gubmint employee!!!

How could he be wrong???? animal
19 July 2025, 06:24
jeffeosso
quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
quote:
you might notice, i called out your BEHAVOIRS and called them lies ... i didn't label you a "lier"



Well, that's friggin interesting.

Trying to make distinctions you don't understand.


you misspelled "I" in the don't understanding -

with your, uhm, interesting vocabulary, it's good to see you trying to expand your understanding of the english language

Had you EVER worked for a large company in a leadership role, you would received any number of compelled trainings - at least one of them would have been labeled something like "effective communication" or "tough conversations" where you are highly coached to stay away from addressing the person, rather their behaviors, except in special cases where nothing but direct speech can get the message over --

so "you are acting like a jerk" discusses actions, which can be corrected, as we assume adults are willing to address bad behaviors. The near same sentence of " you are a jerk" is a direct and personal appraisal of behaviors presented.

even phrases that are more direct, "i believe you are acting like an imbecile" is a totally different statement than "you are an imbecile"

but it's so cute that you can leverage google and AI to improve yourself --

keep trying, maggie

incoming "ignored post" -- as your behaviors in the past have indicated that you will act like a child when faced with anything even remotely personal ..poor little thang, bless your heart

i wonder what could go wrong?



opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club

Information on Ammoguide about
the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR
What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR.
476AR,
http://www.weaponsmith.com
19 July 2025, 08:58
lavaca
Why is how anyone else chooses to live their life any of your business as long as it doesn't affect yours? My two cents.
19 July 2025, 19:32
LHeym500
Lavaca, that is great.

The issue is this Regime erases entire class of folks from a monument dedicated to honoring their peaceful stand for legal recognition, decriminalization of their lives, and violence.

I find that rich. The Regime is headed by the man and supported by folks who told us, “Communities that decided to remove or reallocate statues that were part of the Lost Cause Myth need not erase history.” That Regime is now erasing history.
19 July 2025, 19:58
Magine Enigam
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:

you might notice, i called out your BEHAVOIRS and called them lies ... i didn't label you a "lier"


I quoted you, pivot man.


*************
“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


19 July 2025, 20:06
Magine Enigam
History erased, memory muddled, lies for no reason just habitual ---

https://youtube.com/shorts/epo...?si=a6HClnHPLMykJmSP

Trump loses track of the details of his own family and presidency

============================================

He should use teleprompter.


*************
“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


20 July 2025, 10:02
crbutler
I am not a fan of the erasing history part of things.

I thought removal of confederate names and statues was beneath our government.

I also think the same of Trump's behavior.

While I don't think Harvey Milk did anything worthy of getting a naval ship named after him, once the government did so, that's the end of it in my book.

The Tuskegee airmen deserve recognition and are part of our history. Trump removing it from an airforce web page does not remove the history. That those guys despite the lack of education and equal access in society volunteered and were able to perform in combat and have one of the best records in the ETO is certainly worth celebrating.

But I am also willing to admit that if you are not covering the air war in Europe in WWII in your history class, then there really is no reason to talk about the red tail squadron. Bringing up the Tuskegee airmen without discussing what they were actually doing and how it fit in from a military perspective just to make some point about racism is not history.