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More disastrous gain of function debauchery. Current Bird Flu Outbreak is Man-Made USDA Serial-Passage Gain-of-Function Research Extended Host Range to Migratory Waterfowl, Cattle, Sea Mammals Peter A. McCullough, MD, MPH Jan 02, 2025 By Peter A. McCullough, MD, MPH The current H5N1 highly pathogenic avian influenza outbreak can be traced back the the USDA Poultry Research Center in Athens, Georgia, as the proximal origin. The strain that likely emerged through gain-of-function serial passage experiments in mallard ducks spread in the wild to sea mammals and then cattle. US government research most probably expanded the host range and created the problem we have now. Fortunately it is a mild strain when occasional human infection occurs which is usually from hand contact to the eye resulting in conjunctivitis. We have seen no human-to-human spread and there has never been a human US fatality due to H5N1. Entire article, graphs, data at these two links: C D And [URL= Proximal Origin of Epidemic Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza H5N1 Clade 2.3.4.4b and Spread by Migratory Waterfowl]Origin[/URL] ~Ann  | ||
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Another article: The Reputations of Researchers at the Erasmus Institute & National Poultry Research Center Reviewing the literature on researchers experimenting with H5N1. John Leake Jan 01, 2025 On September 19, 2011, Scientific American published an article titled What Will the Next Influenza Pandemic Look Like? As the authors noted: Mysterious mutations Topping the worst-case scenario list for most flu experts is a pandemic of H5N1, the "bird flu" which has killed about six in 10 people who have gotten it—a total of at least 550 people since 2003—and has laid to waste hundreds of millions of domestic fowl and wild birds. Fortunately, so far, it has not been transferred from human to human and has passed to us only via direct contact with animals. But any flu can change rapidly, mutating in each new host. So researchers wonder: Could the dreaded H5N1 ever morph into a disease that could spread among people, via a cough or sneeze, to attach to nasal or tracheal membranes, as the seasonal flu does every year? To help answer this question, Ron Fouchier, also of Erasmus Medical Center, and his team "mutated the hell out of H5N1" and looked at how readily it would bind with cells in the respiratory tract. What they found is that with as few as five single mutations it gained the ability to latch onto cells in the nasal and tracheal passageways, which, Fouchier added as understated emphasis, "seemed to be very bad news." The variety that they had created, however, when tested in ferrets (the best animal model for influenza research) still did not transmit very easily just through close contact. It wasn't until "someone finally convinced me to do something really, really stupid," Fouchier said, that they observed the deadly H5N1 become a viable aerosol virus. In the derided experiment, they let the virus itself evolve to gain that killer capacity. To do that, they put the mutated virus in the nose of one ferret; after that ferret got sick, they put infected material from the first ferret into the nose of a second. After repeating this 10 times, H5N1 became as easily transmissible as the seasonal flu. The lesson from these admittedly high-risk experiments is that "the H5N1 virus can become airborne," Fouchier concluded—and that "re-assortment with mammalian viruses is not needed" for it to evolve to spread through the air. And each of these mutations has already been observed in animals. Many scientists agreed with Ron Fouchier that he had done “something really, really stupid.” Continues Here. ~Ann | |||
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Let the theories, mis/disinformation and denials begin. We saw how the Trump admin handled the pandemic last time and how the crazies in the public responded. Now Trump has nominated a real nutz case the head public health, and real anti-vaxer. Trump plans to pull out of WHO, and I don't yet know what he will do about CDC, but surly it won't be good. =============================================== https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/s...n-summary/index.html CDC: H5 Bird Flu: Current Situation, December 30, 2024 https://edition.cnn.com/2024/1...-analysis/index.html We ‘have our head in the sand’: Health experts warn US isn’t reacting fast enough to threat of bird flu By Meg Tirrell, CNN 6 minute read Updated 9:29 PM EST, Fri December 27, 2024 The US hasn’t learned lessons from the Covid-19 pandemic that it could use to mitigate the threat of pathogens like H5N1 bird flu that keep showing signs of their own pandemic potential, health experts told CNN Friday. “We kind of have our head in the sand about how widespread this is from the zoonotic standpoint, from the animal-to-human standpoint,” Dr. Deborah Birx , the White House Coronavirus Response Coordinator under President Donald Trump, said on “CNN Newsroom” with Pamela Brown. Birx called for much wider-spread testing of farm workers who make up the majority of identified cases in the US, noting the country is heading into an even higher-risk period as seasonal flu begins to circulate. That raises the possibility a person could get infected with both seasonal flu and H5N1 and the viruses could swap gene segments, Birx said, giving the bird flu virus more tools to better infect humans, a phenomenon known as reassortment. A spokesperson for the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention pushed back on Friday, telling CNN in a statement that the “comments about avian flu (H5N1) testing are out of date, misleading and inaccurate.” “Despite data indicating that asymptomatic infections are rare, CDC changed its recommendations back in November to widen the testing net to include testing asymptomatic people with high-risk exposure to avian flu, and during the summer, it instructed hospitals to continue subtyping flu viruses as part of the nationwide monitoring effort, instead of the normal ramping down of surveillance at the end of flu season,” the spokesperson said. (There's more) ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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Please enlighten us on your thoughts here. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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My thought is that enlightenment is impossible for some people, so it's futile. That's why I say let the circus begin. How about you telling us that the best solution is let it run amuck for the sake of herd immunity - the sooner the better. ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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Trumped screwed up! As he undoes! He is screwing things up before he is started now!  | |||
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I remember Trump wanting to block planes from that part of china coming in. The Dems screamed bloody murder. We ended up blocking everyone from everything before we got done. | |||
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Did I say that?  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Based on what you said before, that's what I expect you to say. ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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Trump listened to the government paid 'experts' which included Fauci and Birx and MORE. Trump isn't an epidemiologist, they are and who any president in office would have listened to as did 0biden. I cannot understand your heroism for these liars and their weaponizing of a host of viruses. They fucked up the country and the world with this. Not Trump. Anyway, their labs are there in Georgia. Good luck.
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so, high lort (sp) regulator , you imagined it, even to say, you made it up, and then tried to pin it on someone else? it's your strawman, make it march -- btw, i realized you may not be familiar with the term "strawman" i suggest you look it up opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I don’t know that serial passage research is the same as gain of function research. I would agree that the experiment is unnecessary because we know that these viruses do exactly what is claimed in that report, but science does require you retest beliefs… and I’m not against gain of function research - but it should be done in a lab with proper protocols involved. I do feel it’s more likely that either the US or Western Europe is more likely to do it safely than Eastern Europe, China, India, or, god forbid, the Middle East. As to Trump, he started us on the path that led us to the shutdowns and “quarantine” and was the one who authorized the research and development of the vaccine. The democrats own vaccine mandates and the extreme prolongation of the lockdowns that were not really a quarantine. The way the Chinese did it was much more a quarantine- much shorter time blocks with monitoring, and MUCH stricter. No “exceptions” for certain reasons and much more forceful enforcement. And note that it didn’t stop the disease there either- just prolonged and slowed the curve- which, if you believe their data did result in lower overall mortality rates. If there is legitimate proof that USDA released the virus, it will come out. | |||
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Your thought???? Those "some people" are morons like you old woman! | |||
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Yep! And Nancy prophesy insisted on the celebration for Chinese new year to continue..... . | |||
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what did good ole joe call him? xenophobe .. yeah, that's it opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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There is a lesson here. Don't put a Level 4 pathogen facility in the same labor market as a Level 2. TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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 Thats the reply I wished to see when I opened this thread. Anne, Info wars is not your friend. Their very goal is in the title. Wars of information. Nothing in that says truth. We on the right need to argue our point of view with factual information/sources, as Doc has done. I get the feeling Alex Jones thinks we are all morons who will pay for his next house. | |||
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Then you have poor reading comprehension and/or memory. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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If this turns into something major, the worst thing we can do is react based on our covid experiences. Treat each event anew and react according to how virulent and deadly it is. | |||
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my dearly departed MiL couldn't tell a computer chip from a lay's chip, and griped about EVERYTHING, and wasn't as much of an "old woman" as some posters here. though she did have the sense to say "what does that mean" when confronted with a new concept, rather than wallow in ignorance... opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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So you're saying that your deceased MIL was a real woman! I'm proud for ya Jeff. Mangina,is,just a wannabe old woman.....estrogen treatments and all.... | |||
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Jim, i aint judging and "they" ARE woke, so... opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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I just judge them by their words...... They put them out there.... | |||
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Now Shanks, why should we or anyone think that next time, suddenly, the attitude of the crazies, well demonstrated already, will become rational? OH -- I almost forgot we may have RFK Jr. and Trump to guide us. Nothing to worry about.  ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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I think that's a massive simplification. Let's face it, the govt of the day handled Covid poorly and have created much mistrust. People knew it at the time but had no proper way to address that. Here our left wing govt of those times has been found too have acted illegally, and is hiding from that by saying we all had a choice. We didn't. That kind of thing is going to create real problems when a virus of real lethality comes along. people have understandably lost Fatih in the bureaucracy. | |||
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Ya think! When they asked Fauci where the 6 ft rule came about.... He said " well, ha-ha, it just sort of appeared, there was no basis for it, just everyone went with it". very scientific, for sure. | |||
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ME, Just FYI…you are one of the “crazies.” ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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"massive simplification" The "lost Fatih in the bureaucracy" shows up in several forms. Trump winning the election for sure. The question is, was the faith lost before or after or during the pandemic? I think it was in decline long before, and the dis/misinformation spew and belief caused further decline. And Trump certainly didn't help = Shine a bright light up your ass and drink Clorox. The problem is that too many people just make up shit, and believe other's BS too. The next pandemic will be a repeat of the last one, probably worse, entirely depending on the severity of the disease. The science will still be valid, and the public denials and distrust will still be the same as demonstrated already, maybe more so. Does anyone really think RFK Jr. is about instilling Trust, in anything? ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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ME- did you take the clot shots? ~Ann | |||
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I rest my case. ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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Do any culprits come to mind?  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Yes. But in your case at least it has some basis in reason. But let's not ignore the fact that you chose to just ignore what Trump said about bright light up the arsh and bleach. I suppose you were too occupied with "science" up to your arm pit in a horses arsh. ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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I think my point was lost on you Maggie. When you want to see someone who just makes shit up…look in the mirror. You posted proof above for us all to judge you on. Did Trump say drink bleach? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Ingestion of Lysol by indigenous people in Alberta was so commonplace that some bureaucrats had suggested that the makers of Lysol do something to "make it less palatable". A spokesman for the company said, "It already tastes pretty bad." I heard of no reports on the effects of Lysol consumption on the corona virus. In general, the street people all have immune systems which will stop a charging moose, so maybe there is some benefit. Regards, Bill | |||
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Your article link is blocked to me. Anyway: I think Trump should have called his suggestion a gene pool cleanser rather than something for the coronavirus. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/0...0UJ-y&smid=url-share Trump’s Suggestion That Disinfectants Could Be Used to Treat Coronavirus Prompts Aggressive Pushback Responding to the criticism from public health officials around the country, the president said he was playing a trick on reporters. https://www.poison.med.wayne.e...fstf0pkacdxmz943u1hs At least 5 states report an increase in calls to poison control after Trump’s ‘disinfectant’ COVID-19 remarks ************* “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984 https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp Degenerate 1:1 1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it". Degenerate 1:2 2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf." Degenerate 1:3 3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done." "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. "Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus | |||
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This might be TMI, too scientific for some of you but it is cogent as the problem is world wide. Waterfowl migrate 2X a year. They are naturally attracted to other waterfowl resting on the ground, etc. They have regular travel routes. In my experience as a poultry farmer even vaccination for Marek's Disease is seriously problematic. It's caused resistance and the virus responsible for the disease mutates making it ineffective but created new strains. I thus do not vaccinate my birds for Marek's. I have to get my poultry tested yearly since I cross state lines with birds and also ship live birds all over the USA. Look for stuff like African swine fever to become a sudden problem Stateside too. For laboratories to play around and create other strains of virus's under the guise of 'gain of function' is something I have never agreed with. Someone always sets these things loose. ~~~~~~~ French Authorities Mandate Self-Amplifying mRNA Injections and a Third Booster Dose for Ducks Against Bird Flu Risks of viral mutations, breakthrough infections, and human health concerns from mRNA residues in meat are ignored by public health officials. Nicolas Hulscher, MPH Jan 04, 2025 By Nicolas Hulscher, MPH Esteemed researcher Hélène Banoun has just published an article titled, Duck vaccination against bird flu in France, that provides a comprehensive overview of the reckless mass avian influenza duck vaccination campaign. Here are the key points: 1. Introduction to Duck Vaccination Campaign in France France is the only country mandating vaccination of ducks against H5N1 avian influenza for farms with over 250 ducks. The vaccine campaign was launched in autumn 2023, targeting 61 million ducks annually, using both CEVA's self-amplifying mRNA vaccine and Boehringer's subunit vaccine. Farms with fewer than 250 ducks are prohibited from vaccinating. Despite being the only nation enforcing mass duck vaccination, no evidence exists of stringent safety measures to prevent vaccine residues in meat, nor transparency in pharmacokinetic studies. 2. Vaccine Types and Selection Process Two vaccines were tested and approved: Boehringer Ingelheim's subunit vaccine: Traditional inactivated H5 subunit vaccine. CEVA's self-amplifying mRNA vaccine: Encapsulated in ferric nanoparticles, contains squalene, and requires precise storage. Initially, only Boehringer's vaccine was approved due to logistical constraints with CEVA's storage requirements. In 2024, authorities purchased doses from both companies. The introduction of CEVA's mRNA vaccine in food-producing animals raises significant concerns due to the lack of biodistribution and pharmacokinetic studies, as well as potential squalene toxicity in humans. 3. Vaccine Efficacy and Viral Shedding Viral shedding continues for up to 14 days, even in vaccinated ducks. In trials, vaccinated ducks still excreted the virus in significant amounts, posing ongoing risks for viral mutation and transmission. Vaccination fails to prevent virus shedding effectively, undermining the justification for mandatory mass vaccination and raising the risk of silent virus propagation. 4. Risks of Vaccine-Induced Mutations Vaccination can drive viral evolution, favoring more virulent or vaccine-resistant strains, as seen in China with H5N1. Incomplete protection encourages silent spread, where infected but vaccinated birds show minimal symptoms while still excreting the virus. Evidence suggests that vaccination does not prevent the emergence of more pathogenic variants, contradicting the core objective. 5. Breakthrough Infections on Vaccinated Farms Despite widespread vaccination, outbreaks occurred in vaccinated flocks in late 2024, including confirmed cases in Landes and Eure. Affected areas implemented strict containment measures, including mass culling and trade restrictions. Breakthrough infections undermine the credibility of the vaccination strategy, as the measures required to contain outbreaks mirror those used before vaccination campaigns began. 6. Regulatory and Ethical Concerns The French Ministry of Agriculture mandated a third dose for mulard ducks, despite only two doses being approved under the vaccine's ATU (Temporary Use Authorization). The introduction of off-label dosing protocols creates significant ethical and liability concerns, exposing veterinarians and producers to potential legal repercussions. 7. Human Health Risks from mRNA Vaccine Residues CEVA’s self-amplifying mRNA may persist in duck tissues due to lipid nanoparticle (LNP) encapsulation, which protects mRNA from gastric degradation Poorly cooked duck meat could theoretically deliver intact mRNA particles to consumers, raising concerns about inadvertent human “vaccination”. No biodistribution or pharmacokinetic studies have been conducted to assess these risks. The absence of pharmacokinetic studies represents a grave regulatory failure, as the long-term risks of mRNA ingestion remain unknown. 8. Broader Implications Poultry vaccination is not accepted internationally for export, limiting market access for French producers. Vaccination campaigns continue without evidence of significant improvement in outbreak control. France risks economic and public trust damage while pursuing a strategy unsupported by international best practices. Conclusion The compulsory duck vaccination program in France reveals significant scientific, ethical, and regulatory concerns: Limited vaccine efficacy with persistent viral shedding. Risk of viral mutation driven by vaccination pressure. Human health risks associated with mRNA residues in duck meat. Breakthrough infections proving the campaign's limitations. Legal ambiguities regarding off-label vaccination practices. This paper indicates that mass animal avian influenza vaccination campaigns must never be initiated in the United States as is currently being pushed for by ‘experts’. The large number of risks far outweigh any theoretical benefits. Nicolas Hulscher, MPH Epidemiologist and Foundation Administrator, McCullough Foundation www.mcculloughfnd.org Please consider following the McCullough Foundation and Nicolas Hulscher on X (formerly Twitter) for further content. https://petermcculloughmd.subs...-amplifying/comments ~Ann | |||
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The link works for me and I don't subscribe to that paper. Is lying a thing for you? ~Ann | |||
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Let me help you out. You are promoting and disseminating “disinformation.”   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Not for viruses I know, but im always depressed at the tons and tons of antibiotics that get poured into farm animals. | |||
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His conclusions are every bit as problematic as the practices he is attacking. The mandatory duck vaccination campaign in France is problematic in that it has not been tested yet- it may well be a forerunner of a worldwide standard... if it works out. I don't know that viral mutation is driven by vaccine use- rather a successful mutation will be selected for a bit more quickly- its not causative of mutation. The mutations will happen regardless, and be found in the wild. Human health risks from mRNA are a canard. We eat mRNA all the time. His comment that the lipid nanoparticle encapsulation protects from gastric (acid) degradation is true. That eating this meat that is cooked and then digested is likely to allow the vaccine to enter your bloodstream and be "immunizing" people to avian flu seems a bit off- or else we would be giving mRNA vaccines orally. Has it been extensively studied? No. Should it be? Sure. Breakthrough infections proving limitations? Yes. But in a similar vein should we pull all antibiotics off the market because they have a defined rate of failure, and are known to cause some biological "downstream" effects? Has this selfsame arbiter of what is appropriate said as much about the wholesale use of antibiotics in feed or veterinary use? Legal ambiguities? Come on. His paper did not indicate that mass avian influenza vaccination campaigns should never be pursued. It at best indicated that there are some areas that should be looked at a bit more closely before something becomes a official policy course of action. He in his conclusion shows that he is not a very competent scientist- he's every bit as much of an overstater as the folks that pushed mandatory vaccination for covid were. His bread is buttered by making hyperbolic antivaccine claims. | |||
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