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Basically he flipped off the United States Congress. Y’all good with that? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | ||
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He wants to speak his piece in public, same as Trump. TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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I am. He was invited to testify privately or publicly, and accepted publicly. Republicans, realizing they couldn't lie about what he said as easily if every word was on C-SPAN, reneged. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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He didn’t say anything and got up and left. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Actually, he admitted to a reporter that his father WAS on the phone with him on his 'business' calls. Seems like all that crack is bad for your brain cells.  ~Ann   | |||
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He made himself available for questioning, and left just before Marjorie Sporkfoot again showed nude pictures stolen off his laptop. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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When you make yourself available for questioning…you don’t get up and walk out. But, these stunts do drive nails in the Democratic presidential coffin for sure. So good show Hunter! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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He probably should have just taken a page out of the Team Trump playbook and just not shown up like Roger Stone and Steve Bannon. Mike | |||
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The quotes that I read that were attributed to that woman representative from North Carolina during that meeting I found detestable. These people were obviously all dropped on their heads as babies. The seems to be no decorum in our institutions anymore. | |||
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Hard to find a bigger breach of "decorum" than showing nude pictures with no relevance. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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Best part is him showing up and his letter of acceptance of the Chairman's offer to testify publicly blocks any prosecution for Contempt, since proving "intent" is an element of that charge. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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Still waiting for Gym Jordan. Over 2 years now. | |||
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And: Scott Perry Mark Meadows Mo Brooks Andy Biggs Kevin McCarthy "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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But you were fine with him showing up with his film crew and flipping the bird to the US Congress? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Basically, Trump has been doing that non stop. Y’all good with that too??  | |||
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He only flips off the same ones I do.  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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I have a question for the lawyers. If a person was having a discussion, and trying to make a point, they pulled their jacket back and exposed a weapon. Is "brandishing" illegal? To give a silent threat? Hunter told a reporter the other day he takes calls his father makes, even when having a business meeting. Archer said VP Biden was put on speaker to talk weather and fishing with foreign business people. While that is not illegal. If Hunter was telling the foreigners he has access to Biden, and he "magically calls and puts him on the phone. Is that not "brandishing" Even if it is not illegal, does anyone think it should be done? Not just for a Pres. or VP, but cabinet officials and all. | |||
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Not only that he was breathing while Joe was breathing AT THE EXACT SAME TIME! "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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No he didn't. If anything, he flipped off the MAGA Morons who pretend to be Congressmen and women, but act like trash ... and I am very good with that. | |||
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I know jeffi would be fine with it, from either party correct? | |||
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Here is the kicker. The House subpoenaed Hunter Biden. He appeared. However, in a Court of law to hold a witness in contempt for non appearance, the witness has to be called to testify once they appear. Hunter Biden Appeared. He answered the subpoena. The members of the committee never called him and have him sworn. The Justice Department is not going to prosecute this if they refer it bc he does not get to be held in contempt if he is not called. They made a donkey show out of their horse show. He appeared. The subpoena is satisfied. The Committee never called him. So, it is on the Committee. Simply, sending a subpoena is not calling the witnesses. The subpoena just says: 1) You have to come, 2) you have to come at this day and time, and 3) the location. When the witness shows up, and you do not call them, you can’t move to contempt the witness based on the subpoena. The House may vote to hold in contempt and refer to the DOJ. The lawyers in the DOJ should laugh at the House. Greene should be held in contempt for showing the photograph, again, that has no probative value. Funny Dr. Easter respects a Senator challenging a witness to a fight in the Senate. However, his bunch cannot even follow basic procedure, shows immaterial, not relevant photographs, and it is the fault of the witness who appears. It is okay. Dr. Easter agrees w the ends which are to embarrass the son of a political opponent. It sure was not whether President Biden was influence peddling based on the hearing that actually took place. The means as in following simply procedure which was call the witness does not matter. | |||
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OK, no answer. I'll try again. Are you folks ok with relatives using political positions to further their business deals? We have the Biden family, son and brother. Trumps kids certainly benefitted, where is the line drawn? I would like to have congressional members, and family locked out of the stock market while in office, and war chests turned in to the general fund when they leave office. Lets see how many politicians make a career out of staying in washington then. | |||
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My answer was directed at the implication that Hunter Biden did something to be held in con by Congress. He did not giving the failure to call him once he appeared. As for your question, in a word No. Did this hearing establish or try to establish that? In a word, no. Is Hunter Biden charged w crime concerning illegal influence? In a word, no. He is charged w tax evasion and a felony firearm possession charge while being a user of illegal drugs. | |||
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Still not answering what I asked. Do people think this kind of thing is OK? I do not, must be with your skating, you think it's fine. Jeffi does, so that makes two of you. | |||
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You asked if I was okay w folks using political relatives to further business deals. I said no. I also point out this hearing today did not establish or try to establish Presidential Biden engaged in criminal influence peddling for his son. I also point out Hunter Biden is not charge w anything that criminally resembles illegal influence peddling. He is charged w tax evasion and a felony gun charge. I have no problem w a subpoenaed witness leaving when they appear and are not called. That is on the party subpoenaing. Call him. If he then leaves, contempt him. If Congress wants to pass a law tightening or sharping laws against influence peddling that would criminalize behavior I am all for it. You are assuming Hunter Biden and President Biden engaged in some illegal influence peddling scheme. The DOI has brought no such charges, and this hearing established no evidence nor testimony of such. Greene did embarrass herself and all of us again. Her efforts are detrimental to the Committee’s goal. | |||
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I don't think Members of Congress should be LESS accountable for ignoring Congressional subpoenas than a private citizen, nor should being a Republican grant immunity. If the House wants their subpoenas taken seriously they should start by referring their own Members for Contempt. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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You're spot-on as usual, my friend. Would anybody want to do business with Hunter Biden if he wasn't Joe Biden's son? Shit, I wouldn't buy a used car from him. Are there a lot of people that think he has stroke because of who his dad is and he's capitalized on that? No doubt. Has Joe Biden personally participated in it or done anything besides being Hunter Biden's dad? I haven't seen anything that indicates that is the case. Change my mind. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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All the usual suspects are coming out. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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It was a mockery ok. Glad to hear you approve. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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So why didn't they call him as a witness when he answered the subpoena by showing up? Why did they let him go once they had him? | |||
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It was a mockery by the Committee that never called him. Greene showing no probative value pictures. Same level as the Senator from Oklahoma. They did not call him. He can go. They did not call him, because they did not want to have a hearing on influence peddling which is what they are supposed to be investigating. They just wanted to embarrass. In doing so, they again demonstrated that can’t run a lemonade stand. If they had called him, I would say contempt him. The DOJ would have to prosecute the referral. The Committee in their stupidity failed to procedural close the gate. | |||
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They did not call him as they had no idea that he coming that day and probably weren’t prepared. It was not scheduled. Congress as well as all courts keep and maintain order by adhering to schedules (in case you didn’t know  ). They had subpoenaed him for another date in which he did not show. The mockery is made by Hunter. What he did may be technically legal but it was certainly unbecoming of the son of the POTUS. If any other person besides me were making this argument…you too would agree it was unbecoming of the son of the POTUS to pull such a political stunt. If it were a Trump…you would also be screeching.Again Hunter used his status to flip the bird to the US Congress. Some here are totally fine with that. No run of the mill ordinary person would get away with such. Hunter is a miscreant and the US Gvt facilities and actually eggs on his bad behavior. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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That beats anything I've seen in a long time. A Trump voter talking about "unbecoming" behavior! What a hoot! Lane, take this show on the road! | |||
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No idea he was coming? LOL! A subpoena lists the date, time, and location for the witness to appear. They issued the subpoena. They knew exactly when and where Hunter was supposed to appear. It's their own incompetence that left them unprepared to take his testimony. | |||
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You forgot about Chelsea Clinton being appointed President of the Clinton Global Initiative with a million dollar salary at age 21 right out of college. | |||
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Congressional hearings have become partisan hatchet jobs, more and more. I dont get worked up over contempt of congress charges as some do. Heym gets goose pimples talking about "the letter of the law" I'm more about morality. I find the money deals, even though legal, wrong. I'm not the only one, it dwindles the trust people have in their elected officials. Are they there to do the peoples business, or their own business? | |||
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It is my understanding…correct me if I am wrong Roland…that the subpoena date had come and gone and was not the date of his appearance. This appearance was out of the clear blue and a pure stunt. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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All I have to say is that when congress loses the ability to call people before them to answer questions…they have really lost their ability to make informed decisions. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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