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For Voter ID proof of Citizenship in Arizona!!! Dems are $HITTING THEMSELVES!!!...https://www.foxnews.com/politics/scotus-gives-partial-victory-gop-trying-enforce-proof-citizenship-vote-arizona
 
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Actually, you seem to be the one shitting himself.

After you get cleaned up, educate yourself on how rare it is for undocumented people to vote in the US. It's just another lie spread by trump and the Republicans. Fear, doom, gloom, intolerance and hate. GOP talking points.

https://www.usnews.com/news/po...ut-noncitizen-voting

>>>>Almost all available data says that noncitizen voting in federal elections, though not unprecedented, is incredibly rare.

In 2016, North Carolina audited its elections and found that 41 legal immigrants had cast ballots despite not yet being citizens out of 4.8 million votes cast. The state’s election board found that the votes made no difference in any state election.

Georgia’s Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger conducted an audit of the state’s voter rolls in 2022 and found that 1,634 had attempted to register but all were caught and none were actually registered.

A recent study in Arizona, first reported by The Washington Post, found that less than 1% of noncitizens in the state attempted to register and that even in those instances the vast majority were believed to be mistakes.

The Brennan Center for Justice, a nonpartisan law and policy institute based in the nation’s capital, surveyed 44 election officials located in some of the most populated and immigrant-heavy areas after 2016 and found 30 incidents out of 23.5 million votes cast.

Sean Morales-Doyle, director of the voting rights program at the center, says that on the rare occasions that it does happen, “it's caught and prosecuted, and in most of those circumstances, it turns out that the person who registered to vote did so by accident.”

Yet despite the data proving otherwise, The Voting Rights Lab, a liberal group tracking voting legislation, says that since the 2020 election, nine states have enacted new laws targeting the issue and legislation is currently active in 16 states.


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3 days of the dnc and you think this one guy has the patent on doom and gloom?


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If it is so rare Mike…why do your brethren fight so hard against ID laws?

Damn 2020

We use IDs for damn near everything else “important” in our lives.

Why in Sam Hill can’t we all agree that you should have a valid legal ID to vote? I just don’t get it.


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Say, didn't the faithful have something to say about the DNC requiring ID for entry?


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3 days of the dnc and you think this one guy has the patent on doom and gloom?


What I have seen of the DNC speakers has been a message of unity, hope, and a plan.

President Obama did especially well.
The Sherriff last night did especially well.

AOC was poor.

I have no problem with the general concept of a is to vote law.

One might argue that a needless law as positioned by MM does not need passing.

We have to show ID here in KY.
 
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Considering illegal aliens number up into the millions, even a small number voting will have an impact. Vote for the candidate that has America and your best interests at heart.
 
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If it is so rare Mike…why do your brethren fight so hard against ID laws?

Damn 2020

We use IDs for damn near everything else “important” in our lives.

Why in Sam Hill can’t we all agree that you should have a valid legal ID to vote? I just don’t get it.


Because making it harder to vote is Un-American?

Do you have any sort of evidence or facts that refutes the assertion that it rarely happens Lane? It's a stupid talking point...as evidenced by the fact that you are talking about it and it hardly ever happens.

Roll it out. Show us all your evidence that undocumented folks vote in US elections. Damn man, don't look like an idiot without facts or proof. Give us facts and proof. coffee


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Today Ohio turned over referral for 600 iah illegals voting. Not statistically significant but also not near zero


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Today Ohio turned over referral for 600 iah illegals voting. Not statistically significant but also not near zero


8,000,000 voters in Ohio in the last general election.

600 doesn't seem like a very well-organized conspiracy to sway the election.

More like some dumb-asses who didn't realize they weren't qualified to vote.

I'd also be interested in who did that Ohio referral and how many of those folks were really not qualified to vote. I guess we'll see at some point.


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Sounds like a good idea to make it totally, federally, illegal... as some areas are allowing illegals to vote in locals.

Hmm, if only congress would pass a law, I'd think everyone could agree with it..well, except 198 dems


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Sounds like a good idea to make it totally, federally, illegal... as some areas are allowing illegals to vote in locals.

Hmm, if only congress would pass a law, I'd think everyone could agree with it..well, except 198 dems


It's already illegal. I guess the republicans, for political purposes, can try to pass a law that already exists but I'm not certain what that would accomplish.


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For Voter ID proof of Citizenship in Arizona!!! Dems are $HITTING THEMSELVES!!!...https://www.foxnews.com/politics/scotus-gives-partial-victory-gop-trying-enforce-proof-citizenship-vote-arizona


Proof of citizenship? What is that? Driver's licenses are issued to non-citizens.

If you don't have a US passport to show to the poll workers, you can't vote?
 
Posts: 7018 | Location: Coeur d' Alene, Idaho, USA | Registered: 08 March 2013Reply With Quote
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The allegation is stupid.

600 people may have tried to vote illegally in an election where 8 million people cast votes.

I'm all for voter election integrity but this is an issue?


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If it is so rare Mike…why do your brethren fight so hard against ID laws?

Damn 2020

We use IDs for damn near everything else “important” in our lives.

Why in Sam Hill can’t we all agree that you should have a valid legal ID to vote? I just don’t get it.


Because making it harder to vote is Un-American?

Un-American? Harder? Are you really that dumb? First off…EVERY serious American has ID — EVERY ONE! And, the Founding Fathers (you know guys who conceived the idea of America) realized 250 years ago that you needed “contributors” to dictate who ran America if you wanted it to survive.

Do you have any sort of evidence or facts that refutes the assertion that it rarely happens Lane?

If it rarely happened Mike…there would be no fight. The old saying; “where there is smoke…there is fire has merit.

It's a stupid talking point...as evidenced by the fact that you are talking about it and it hardly ever happens.

Roll it out. Show us all your evidence that undocumented folks vote in US elections. Damn man, don't look like an idiot without facts or proof. Give us facts and proof. coffee

lol
Are you done there Mike? You didn’t have a coronary did you?

The fact is that it is illegal. Can’t hurt to have more protection in place to protect the sacred right to vote. Unless…

…you plan on violating that law.


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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EVERY serious American has ID — EVERY ONE!


And so do many non-citizens, legal and otherwise.
 
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If it is so rare Mike…why do your brethren fight so hard against ID laws?

Damn 2020

We use IDs for damn near everything else “important” in our lives.

Why in Sam Hill can’t we all agree that you should have a valid legal ID to vote? I just don’t get it.


Because making it harder to vote is Un-American?

Un-American? Harder? Are you really that dumb? First off…EVERY serious American has ID — EVERY ONE! And, the Founding Fathers (you know guys who conceived the idea of America) realized 250 years ago that you needed “contributors” to dictate who ran America if you wanted it to survive.

Do you have any sort of evidence or facts that refutes the assertion that it rarely happens Lane?

If it rarely happened Mike…there would be no fight. The old saying; “where there is smoke…there is fire has merit.

It's a stupid talking point...as evidenced by the fact that you are talking about it and it hardly ever happens.

Roll it out. Show us all your evidence that undocumented folks vote in US elections. Damn man, don't look like an idiot without facts or proof. Give us facts and proof. coffee

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Are you done there Mike? You didn’t have a coronary did you?

The fact is that it is illegal. Can’t hurt to have more protection in place to protect the sacred right to vote. Unless…

…you plan on violating that law.


Evidence of undocumented workers voting where it made any sort of a difference? Like 600 voting in a state where 8 million votes were cast? Waiting to see what you have. Nada so far.

Truly, buddy. You have to up your game.


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EVERY serious American has ID — EVERY ONE!


And so do many non-citizens, legal and otherwise.


In Texas, the ID tells the tale. In AZ…not sure. Maybe that is why they say proof of citizenship.


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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EVERY serious American has ID — EVERY ONE!


And so do many non-citizens, legal and otherwise.


In Texas, the ID tells the tale. In AZ…not sure. Maybe that is why they say proof of citizenship.


Got to keep the vote down, right Lane?

Letting people vote would be...like what the Democrats want.


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Got to keep the vote legal. Wink


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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At least you abandoned your Un-American mantra! rotflmo


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J. Lane Easter, DVM

A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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Mike, you are smarter than your post.
Yes 600 illegal votes matter.
Bush beat Gore by 538 votes out of 6 million votes in Florida. That was the actual number after repeated recounts done after Gore conceded.
Yes, it does indeed matter.
 
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EVERY serious American has ID — EVERY ONE!


And so do many non-citizens, legal and otherwise.


In Texas, the ID tells the tale. In AZ…not sure. Maybe that is why they say proof of citizenship.


Got to keep the vote down, right Lane?

Letting people vote would be...like what the Democrats want.


They may "want" that.. say, how many registered voters got to vote for quemala? Oh, that's right


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In November, as many registered voters in each state that want to vote for VP Harris shall.

I hope she wins.
 
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In November, as many registered voters in each state that want to vote for VP Harris shall.

I hope she wins.

Great of you to be so supportive of the November election

Which wasn't the question. Quemala never polled above 3% and didn't pull a single delegate, the only time she faced voters in the presidential primary.

Hint: the answer is zero in 2024. Not one

Delegates "pledge" including the nebulous " super delegates


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Quemala never polled above 3% and didn't pull a single delegate, the only time she faced voters in the presidential primary.

Hint: the answer is zero in 2024. Not one



Man, you just can't get over Harris's replacement of Biden, can you? Even though you say you're voting third party. What business is it of yours how the Dems pick their candidate?

What do you think the Dems should have done when Biden pulled out? Concede the election to Trump? LOL!
 
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Dems fight TOOTH AND NAIL to Stop Voter ID and or Proof of Citizenship to Vote!!! WHY?
 
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In November, as many registered voters in each state that want to vote for VP Harris shall.

I hope she wins.

Great of you to be so supportive of the November election

Which wasn't the question. Quemala never polled above 3% and didn't pull a single delegate, the only time she faced voters in the presidential primary.

Hint: the answer is zero in 2024. Not one

Delegates "pledge" including the nebulous " super delegates


The question was when do registered voters get to vote for the VP? That would be in December.

The DNC delegates per DNC rules get to vote on the nominee.
 
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In November, as many registered voters in each state that want to vote for VP Harris shall.

I hope she wins.

Great of you to be so supportive of the November election

Which wasn't the question. Quemala never polled above 3% and didn't pull a single delegate, the only time she faced voters in the presidential primary.

Hint: the answer is zero in 2024. Not one

Delegates "pledge" including the nebulous " super delegates


The question was when do registered voters get to vote for the VP? That would be in December.

The DNC delegates per DNC rules get to vote on the nominee.


Wow, the mental gymnastics required to dodge such a simple question.

So, per your statement, it's December?

The answer is no one voted for quemala to be the 2024 presidential candidate during any relevent primary process, even an abridged process.

I know you have heard thus before, but sometimes you are too smart for your own good.. it looks ridiculous


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Let here from an insider as to the "blink primary" from Newsom

https://x.com/ggreenwald/statu...1415000%2Fframe.html


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I do not know why this thing made it December, the election is obviously November.

My answer is my answer. I know it to be accurate. There was no way to have a primary in each state bf the convention and election.

DNC, like RNC, rules control absent legislation to bind delegates from the states. The delegates chose the candidate per their rules when the President withdrew.

That is how simple it is. The DNC through state delegates are not mandated to nominate a candidate who drops out; even one who one the delegates through the state primaries.

If someone wants to say the timing of the withdrawal was pre planned, done intentionally to get the nomination on VP Harris, I think that is ridiculous. However, I can’t prove them wrong other than President Biden says no. I think that trumps the speculation to the contrary. Others will disagree.

I do know, if the RNC is being honest, the Trump campaign is getting out raised and is now worried. I like that because I am going to reject the GOP as it is currently engaging in politics. I also see nothing unconstitutional about VP Harris.

I wonder if Newsom now wishes he round have primaries President Biden. It might have positioned him to be the pick had President Biden withdrew, or it could have made the DNC delegates angry at him for making timings more difficult.
 
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Mitchell,

Those are the ones they caught. How many others? How many felons are voting? And we all know felons illegals are going to vote for the Dims. I understand why the Dims don't want any controls, but in close elections, we do. It makes no sense for me to have to show my ID to get onto a plane, buy tobacco or alcohol, get into many commercial buildings, get licensed to practice law, rent a car, check into a hotel, get medical treatment, But not to vote?

Mike, the only reason you don't want that is because there is fraud going on.
 
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