Bill, I agree that pols shouldn't use their kids as a spectacle, but that's not what Walz did.

His disabled son stood up spontaneously, crying and applauding out of pride for his dad. The father in Walz probably couldn't help but acknowledge his son.

He did what I would have done.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
I am not a Christian.. agnostic here, so that emotive argument doesn't work for or on me

Moral and good are undefined terms. While I could have missed it, I haven't seen horns or wings on any politicians.

A more compelling, but equally undefined, arguement would be ethical, which I ensure you that every politician I have ever observed has a high degree of "flexibility "

Remember when the gun grabber line was " if it saves ONE life" then when presented with murders, rapes, and other obnoxious crimes by illegsls are presented, that same crowd wants to talk percentages.

"Good" hahaha seriously, much like every " committee for public safety" that terms covers many sins.

But why listen to me, my 3rd party vote won't influence this election one way or the other

That's better--a post I can understand and agree with.

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Originally posted by Bill Leeper:
I doubt that anyone cares what I think, but I'm going to spout off anyway. I don't think political figures should make their kids part of the spectacle. I think putting your kids on display is just wrong.
For their part, opponents should probably leave them alone. Ann Coulter was stupid. So was Walz.
I don't think this election is going to be about class. Regards, Bill

Walz was stupid for bringing his son to the DNC where Walz was nominated to be the VP to the Dem candidate for POTUS? You'll need to explain that one. Bullshit.

What was stupid was Ann Coulter attacking his son. Despicable. What's even more stupid is that there is even a discussion or disagreement about that....but, here we are with the usual suspects trying to justify behavior that's not justifiable.

The truth Mike is that Walz and his wife ARE weird as hell — actually f***ing insane. What is even more insane is that a learned individual could defend that warped individual to even have a hand in running the country.

I didn’t know…Ann didn’t know he had a challenged son.

We all know now. We all will be careful. And his challenged son should be left alone.

But to Bill’s point…politics in the 21st century is a tough game. To make it tougher…Walz tried to play the part of a tough guy with his “weird” remarks about Vance.

While I don’t even like Coulter…your making a mountain out of a molehill. She didn’t know.

Walz.. his remarks about Vance and continuing the "sofa" lie is inexcusable. Frankly, even if Vance had, that is truly beneath contempt to bring to a publicized speech.. not far field of Jesse Jackson's remarks on a hit mic about Obama

Roland, just google it, it was before your time on AR

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Walz.. his remarks about Vance and continuing the "sofa" lie is inexcusable. Frankly, even if Vance had, that is truly beneath contempt to bring to a publicized speech.. not far field of Jesse Jackson's remarks on a hit mic about Obama

Roland, just google it, it was before your time on AR

I'm sure you have no problem excusing Trump repeating the Big Lie.

Selective outrage at its finest.

Jeff has condemned Trump’s post election behavior.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Why not when Trump has made fun of disabled people.

This is what the GOP has become.

Trump broke the Overton Window on that topic right ouf of its whitewashed frame...

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Jeff has condemned Trump’s post election behavior.

Was this before or after he had his conversion on the day that "they" tried to kill Trump?

Jeff sure seems all in on Trump these days.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Jeff has condemned Trump’s post election behavior.

Thanks Joshua

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Jeff has condemned Trump’s post election behavior.

Was this before or after he had his conversion on the day that "they" tried to kill Trump?

Jeff sure seems all in on Trump these days.

I am not familiar with that quote, but Jeff’s rejection of Trump has been from the beginning of Jan 6 and consistent.

If he says he is not voting for Trump, I have nothing to say that is not true. We should take him at his word he is not obligated to give as a tenant of our system is the ballot for each of us is personal, secret.

I mean they did try to kill Trump. They bring the feeble of thought who are moved by zealous language is politicians. President Biden never should have used the language. At least, he should have apologized.

Jeff’s post have not been pro Trump, vote for Trump. They have been anti Harris.

Now, one can argue that by attacking Harris one is building support for Trump. That may be a foreseeable consequence. The attacks on Harris will convince someone to vote Trump. That is ultimately on the individual so move. Jeff has not supported nor called for Trump to return to office in his recent post.

It appears to me that the discussion of Trump is pretty much over. I save an exception for juxtaposition of Trump to Harris. One being non supportive of Trump but objecting to Harris is indicative of where the conversation is for the speaker. There is simply nothing new to observe about Trump.

Again, thanks

I am voting third party, again, sigh. I am stuck voting third party because I find, on one hand, a candidate I can't support, and on the other side, a party I can't support.

Harris is an terrible choice for an appointed candidate, where the people didn't have a chance to vote for her and other options. Single choice is more of a dictatorship thing

Will I point out media bias, good and bad, heck, maybe. But what and how I choose to post and vote is controlled by literally 1 person

Jeff is the best of the "conservatives" in here. I still think he's lying & will definitely vote for trump. He's just attempting to look somewhat credible.

WALZ(STOLEN VALOR)