https://www.foxnews.com/politi...im-godspeed-2nd-term

No penalty and judge gives Trump a "wet kiss". Oooops, sorry, our bad. I hope Trump sues the ever living crap out of New York and wins.

You are not familiar w collateral consequences.

And what did you expect the judge to say. A judge is a neutral, third party arbitrator of law who gave Trump way too much rope on this process anyway.

The rest of us would have been thrown in jail on the contempts.

A wish Trump Godspeed as well in his second and last term.

You mean like filing fake charges, and fake prosecuting someone and attempting to bankrupt them for political gain? That kind of collateral? The judge is a contemtable Democrat hack. Wow, the DA didn't like the way Trump had to pay off a blackmailer who violated their NDA. A non-crime. So trivial that there is no punishment other than enormous legal fees. All contrived to prevent Trump from running for President. What drivel.

quote:

Originally posted by LHeym500:
You are not familiar w collateral consequences.

And what did you expect the judge to say. A judge is a neutral, third party arbitrator of law who gave Trump way too much rope on this process anyway.

The rest of us would have been thrown in jail on the contempts.

A wish Trump Godspeed as well in his second and last term.

No, collateral consequences are those privileges and rights one is disqualified from when one is convicted of a felony.

The charges are not fake and the consequences are very much real.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
No, collateral consequences are those privileges and rights one is disqualified from when one is convicted of a felony.

The charges are not fake and the consequences are very much real.

You have to bear in mind that it doesn't matter to magats what trump did or is guilty of. The poor little fellow has only been persecuted is all.

The charges are, pardon the pun, trumped up.

A tax violation that the IRS refused to pursue.

A election violation that the FEC refused to pursue.

A misdemeanor charge that the changed by creative changes to a felony to resurrect it from a statute of limitations limitation.

There were real crimes that Trump deserved his day in court over, such as the classified documents cases, and his issues with claiming find me some votes, but these NYS charges were flat out lawfare.

Who was harmed?

It wasn’t much of a tax harm if the IRS refused to go after it- and even then hit him for an inappropriate deduction - repayment and fines.

The NY voters weren’t particularly harmed. They pretty much didn’t vote for him in either of the two prior elections and it sure didn’t seem to hurt him once this came out… he did better in NY this time once it was out than in 2020.

Yes, they are real charges and carry real penalties. That makes this exercise on the part of the state even more egregious.

A guy was a cad, and paid for a NDA from a stripper.

Who lives such a virtuous life that having your behaviors publicly displayed out of any context by someone who doesn’t like them wouldn’t cause issues?

Pretty much any politician could have things pulled out of their records and made to look bad out of context. Should that be considered fraud on the voters? I think one could do that with ANY NYS politician. That it was done only to Trump says mountains about this situation.

Dr. Butler, you're forgetting that NY has its own income tax, and so NY citizens were defrauded too.

You seriously object to NY enforcing its own tax laws against those who commit fraud?

How much tax money are we talking here?

How many folks are prosecuted for hiding their NDA payment as a business expense as felonies?

If NY had a tax loss, you demand payment of the amount, you demand a fine, and you go from there. Felony tax fraud usually is much more than hiding one NDA payment in your business expenses… isn’t it? Putting a questionable deduction in is a felony (much less 20+ felonies) how often?

I don’t have an issue with pursuing tax delinquents and such- but most of the time it’s tax court, isn’t it?

Did NYS even say “look at this. We are auditing you and you are going to pay” or did they just go to felonies in district court? Did they not announce all of this in public to get political action or were they actually trying to ensure Trump paid his “fair share” of taxes?

Wasn’t it raised to a felony because it was felt to be an act done to further a crime?

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
Dr. Butler, you're forgetting that NY has its own income tax, and so NY citizens were defrauded too.

You seriously object to NY enforcing its own tax laws against those who commit fraud?

awwww... from white-super-majority Idaho, Rolly-the-headless-elitist has an opinion .. come on, guys, let's let it be fully expressed before we laugh at him ...

you done, rolly? you mean the lack of tax income started these proceedings? of course not, as you are a liberal elitist, but not an outright liar - you, too, can admit it was investigation of a man, not of a crime ....

see how that goes against your oath to uphold the law?

poor little sweetness, honey, bless your heart

quote:

Originally posted by crbutler:
The charges are, pardon the pun, trumped up.

A tax violation that the IRS refused to pursue.

The IRS is allergic to rich people's lawyers, they only pursue the poors.

A election violation that the FEC refused to pursue.

The FEC is useless, by design. The Republican Commissioners will never vote to even investigate a Republican.

A misdemeanor charge that the changed by creative changes to a felony to resurrect it from a statute of limitations limitation.

It was a felony because the misdemeanor was committed to cover up another crime, the effort to keep material information from being disclosed to voters just before the election.

There were real crimes that Trump deserved his day in court over, such as the classified documents cases, and his issues with claiming find me some votes, but these NYS charges were flat out lawfare.

Who was harmed?

Every voter in the United States.

It wasn’t much of a tax harm if the IRS refused to go after it- and even then hit him for an inappropriate deduction - repayment and fines.

The NY voters weren’t particularly harmed. They pretty much didn’t vote for him in either of the two prior elections and it sure didn’t seem to hurt him once this came out… he did better in NY this time once it was out than in 2020.

Yes, they are real charges and carry real penalties. That makes this exercise on the part of the state even more egregious.

A guy was a cad, and paid for a NDA from a stripper.

The Nominee from the Party of Family Values was covering up the fact that he was banging a porn star while his rented trophy wife was home with his infant son.

Who lives such a virtuous life that having your behaviors publicly displayed out of any context by someone who doesn’t like them wouldn’t cause issues?

We just buried a guy whose greatest sin was "lusting in his heart". A reasonably virtuous life should be the minimum requirement to run for President.

Pretty much any politician could have things pulled out of their records and made to look bad out of context. Should that be considered fraud on the voters? I think one could do that with ANY NYS politician. That it was done only to Trump says mountains about this situation.

Do you at least insist on a condom when you ride Trump's dick?

You brainwashed dipshit cult members. I’m sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but most of the world does not worship your dumbass orangutan god the way you do. Also, a democrat politician in NYC was tried and convicted for the same thing. I tried to find his name, but it gets lost in all the results for your dipshit cult leader.

quote:

Originally posted by crbutler:
How much tax money are we talking here?

How many folks are prosecuted for hiding their NDA payment as a business expense as felonies?

If NY had a tax loss, you demand payment of the amount, you demand a fine, and you go from there. Felony tax fraud usually is much more than hiding one NDA payment in your business expenses… isn’t it? Putting a questionable deduction in is a felony (much less 20+ felonies) how often?

I don’t have an issue with pursuing tax delinquents and such- but most of the time it’s tax court, isn’t it?

Did NYS even say “look at this. We are auditing you and you are going to pay” or did they just go to felonies in district court? Did they not announce all of this in public to get political action or were they actually trying to ensure Trump paid his “fair share” of taxes?

My former dentist served six months in prison for tax fraud.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

quote:

Originally posted by crbutler:
How much tax money are we talking here?

How many folks are prosecuted for hiding their NDA payment as a business expense as felonies?

If NY had a tax loss, you demand payment of the amount, you demand a fine, and you go from there. Felony tax fraud usually is much more than hiding one NDA payment in your business expenses… isn’t it? Putting a questionable deduction in is a felony (much less 20+ felonies) how often?

I don’t have an issue with pursuing tax delinquents and such- but most of the time it’s tax court, isn’t it?

Did NYS even say “look at this. We are auditing you and you are going to pay” or did they just go to felonies in district court? Did they not announce all of this in public to get political action or were they actually trying to ensure Trump paid his “fair share” of taxes?

My former dentist served six months in prison for tax fraud.

yes, because he didn't report months, if not years, of income - obvious IRS tax fraud -- it's COMMON for dentists to not report cash income, to the point of being a stereotype in triathlon mind space

you really are kind of thick, aren't you? well, you have your boytoy fifi to commiserate with .. Schadenfreude, it's real

Jeffive wrote:
“It was a felony because the misdemeanor was committed to cover up another crime, the effort to keep material information from being disclosed to voters just before the election. “

Just curious. What statute precedent did the jury find a unanimous verdict to enable the imposition of felony charges. Here’s a hint. The judge’s instructions said a unanimous verdict to invoke the felony statutes wasn’t necessary. Bizarre justice by a hack .

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

quote:

Originally posted by crbutler:
The charges are, pardon the pun, trumped up.

A tax violation that the IRS refused to pursue.

The IRS is allergic to rich people's lawyers, they only pursue the poors.

A election violation that the FEC refused to pursue.

The FEC is useless, by design. The Republican Commissioners will never vote to even investigate a Republican.

A misdemeanor charge that the changed by creative changes to a felony to resurrect it from a statute of limitations limitation.

It was a felony because the misdemeanor was committed to cover up another crime, the effort to keep material information from being disclosed to voters just before the election.

There were real crimes that Trump deserved his day in court over, such as the classified documents cases, and his issues with claiming find me some votes, but these NYS charges were flat out lawfare.

Who was harmed?

Every voter in the United States.

It wasn’t much of a tax harm if the IRS refused to go after it- and even then hit him for an inappropriate deduction - repayment and fines.

The NY voters weren’t particularly harmed. They pretty much didn’t vote for him in either of the two prior elections and it sure didn’t seem to hurt him once this came out… he did better in NY this time once it was out than in 2020.

Yes, they are real charges and carry real penalties. That makes this exercise on the part of the state even more egregious.

A guy was a cad, and paid for a NDA from a stripper.

The Nominee from the Party of Family Values was covering up the fact that he was banging a porn star while his rented trophy wife was home with his infant son.

Who lives such a virtuous life that having your behaviors publicly displayed out of any context by someone who doesn’t like them wouldn’t cause issues?

We just buried a guy whose greatest sin was "lusting in his heart". A reasonably virtuous life should be the minimum requirement to run for President.

Pretty much any politician could have things pulled out of their records and made to look bad out of context. Should that be considered fraud on the voters? I think one could do that with ANY NYS politician. That it was done only to Trump says mountains about this situation.

Do you at least insist on a condom when you ride Trump's dick?

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

Do you at least insist on a condom when you ride Trump's d*ck?

DSM 4 and 5 agree that homophobia and fixation are both treatable - get help, macho

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:

quote:

Originally posted by crbutler:
The charges are, pardon the pun, trumped up.

A tax violation that the IRS refused to pursue.

The IRS is allergic to rich people's lawyers, they only pursue the poors.

A election violation that the FEC refused to pursue.

The FEC is useless, by design. The Republican Commissioners will never vote to even investigate a Republican.

A misdemeanor charge that the changed by creative changes to a felony to resurrect it from a statute of limitations limitation.

It was a felony because the misdemeanor was committed to cover up another crime, the effort to keep material information from being disclosed to voters just before the election.

There were real crimes that Trump deserved his day in court over, such as the classified documents cases, and his issues with claiming find me some votes, but these NYS charges were flat out lawfare.

Who was harmed?

Every voter in the United States.

It wasn’t much of a tax harm if the IRS refused to go after it- and even then hit him for an inappropriate deduction - repayment and fines.

The NY voters weren’t particularly harmed. They pretty much didn’t vote for him in either of the two prior elections and it sure didn’t seem to hurt him once this came out… he did better in NY this time once it was out than in 2020.

Yes, they are real charges and carry real penalties. That makes this exercise on the part of the state even more egregious.

A guy was a cad, and paid for a NDA from a stripper.

The Nominee from the Party of Family Values was covering up the fact that he was banging a porn star while his rented trophy wife was home with his infant son.

Who lives such a virtuous life that having your behaviors publicly displayed out of any context by someone who doesn’t like them wouldn’t cause issues?

We just buried a guy whose greatest sin was "lusting in his heart". A reasonably virtuous life should be the minimum requirement to run for President.

Pretty much any politician could have things pulled out of their records and made to look bad out of context. Should that be considered fraud on the voters? I think one could do that with ANY NYS politician. That it was done only to Trump says mountains about this situation.

Do you at least insist on a condom when you ride Trump's dick?

Do you swallow ?

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There were real crimes that Trump deserved his day in court over, such as the classified documents cases, and his issues with claiming find me some votes, but these NYS charges were flat out lawfare.

Shut up. His lawyers spent all their time & effort to keep it OUT of a court room. American citizens are the ones who deserved his day in court because his documents BS openly defied federal law.

. . . if his punishment is just having to be a convicted felon, I’m fine with that.

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Originally posted by JudgeG:
Jeffive wrote:
“It was a felony because the misdemeanor was committed to cover up another crime, the effort to keep material information from being disclosed to voters just before the election. “

Just curious. What statute precedent did the jury find a unanimous verdict to enable the imposition of felony charges. Here’s a hint. The judge’s instructions said a unanimous verdict to invoke the felony statutes wasn’t necessary. Bizarre justice by a hack .

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:

quote:

Originally posted by crbutler:
The charges are, pardon the pun, trumped up.

A tax violation that the IRS refused to pursue.

The IRS is allergic to rich people's lawyers, they only pursue the poors.

A election violation that the FEC refused to pursue.

The FEC is useless, by design. The Republican Commissioners will never vote to even investigate a Republican.

A misdemeanor charge that the changed by creative changes to a felony to resurrect it from a statute of limitations limitation.

It was a felony because the misdemeanor was committed to cover up another crime, the effort to keep material information from being disclosed to voters just before the election.

There were real crimes that Trump deserved his day in court over, such as the classified documents cases, and his issues with claiming find me some votes, but these NYS charges were flat out lawfare.

Who was harmed?

Every voter in the United States.

It wasn’t much of a tax harm if the IRS refused to go after it- and even then hit him for an inappropriate deduction - repayment and fines.

The NY voters weren’t particularly harmed. They pretty much didn’t vote for him in either of the two prior elections and it sure didn’t seem to hurt him once this came out… he did better in NY this time once it was out than in 2020.

Yes, they are real charges and carry real penalties. That makes this exercise on the part of the state even more egregious.

A guy was a cad, and paid for a NDA from a stripper.

The Nominee from the Party of Family Values was covering up the fact that he was banging a porn star while his rented trophy wife was home with his infant son.

Who lives such a virtuous life that having your behaviors publicly displayed out of any context by someone who doesn’t like them wouldn’t cause issues?

We just buried a guy whose greatest sin was "lusting in his heart". A reasonably virtuous life should be the minimum requirement to run for President.

Pretty much any politician could have things pulled out of their records and made to look bad out of context. Should that be considered fraud on the voters? I think one could do that with ANY NYS politician. That it was done only to Trump says mountains about this situation.

Do you at least insist on a condom when you ride Trump's dick?

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Sklansky of Stanford told AFP that Merchan's instructions are not a departure from the norm.

"It is common in criminal cases for juries to be told that they don't have to agree unanimously on the details of how a charged crime was committed," he said.

Ric Simmons, a professor of law at The Ohio State University who previously worked as a prosecutor in New York County, agreed (archived here).

"None of these rules were made up by the judge or the district attorney," Simmons told AFP in a May 29 email. "This is standard New York state law that was passed by the legislature and approved by appellate courts decades ago and which has been applied in exactly this way in tens of thousands of falsifying business records cases before Trump."

Simmons and Eliason likened the case to the way burglary is prosecuted.

Such convictions require proof that the defendant knowingly entered or remained unlawfully on a property with the intent to commit another crime, such as theft. A prosecutor does not have to specify what other crime the defendant planned to commit -- and jurors can disagree, so long as they all believe beyond a reasonable doubt that the person intended to commit a crime.

"Literally, hundreds of thousands of New Yorkers have been convicted of burglary under these rules," Simmons said.

Link

Funny, the NY Appellate Court saw no reason to halt sentencing.

The issue is w the man and not the charges.

There are real consequences here. I am fine with that. I would have offered to divert the charges had it been assigned to me to prosecute given it is the lowest felony and no prior criminal history w no injuries to persons. Of course, Trump would still had to have accepted that.

Ultimately it was all bullshit
Dems loved it bc they all have TDS
Pure and simple

Ultimately, it was all correct until a Court of Last Resort says the charges were as a matter of law inappropriate.

A area such challenge will come will be through palpable error over Trump’s lawyers not objecting to some questions asked to Daniels.

If you cannot cite caselaw they makes this prosecution and conviction a violation of controlling precedents in NY your opinion is baddd on emotion and not knowledge.

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Ultimately it was all bullshit

Every American here ‘should’ be appalled at how the government manufactured a case to hurt a political opponent.

I mean really…everyone here ‘knows’ (or you are obtuse) that is what was done.

If you condone it…you are part of the problem.

quote:

Originally posted by M.Shy:
Ultimately it was all bullshit
Dems loved it bc they all have TDS
Pure and simple

This is what I'm talking about when I use the term "court of public opinion" and "belief in Fiction". It's what got Trump elected. The significance of that can't be overstated.

To give an analogy -- it's like driving down the road and seeing a tornado ahead on a collision course. Instead of changing direction, you just drive right into it due to some sort of false belief or denial.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

Every American here ‘should’ be appalled at how the government manufactured a case to hurt a political opponent.

I mean really…everyone here ‘knows’ (or you are obtuse) that is what was done.

If you condone it…you are part of the problem.

You took the same view of all the prosecutable cases against Trump. Why?

Was it because Trump lied about it and spun the facts, which you believe?

Or was it bias?

Which is more likely - the grand jury believed in fiction, or OTOH you choose to believe in fiction?

IMO, the evidence that we know suggests that the cases against Trump were not manufactured, and certainly not for political purpose. They were political because it couldn't be avoided, but the evidence suggests he did the deeds, especially re 1/6.

I am appalled that his deeds go unpunished, all because of Belief in Fiction in the court of public opinion.

quote:

Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

Every American here ‘should’ be appalled at how the government manufactured a case to hurt a political opponent.

I mean really…everyone here ‘knows’ (or you are obtuse) that is what was done.

If you condone it…you are part of the problem.

You took the same view of all the prosecutable cases against Trump. Why?

Was it because Trump lied about it and spun the facts, which you believe?

Or was it bias?

Which is more likely - the grand jury believed in fiction, or OTOH you choose to believe in fiction?

IMO, the evidence that we know suggests that the cases against Trump were not manufactured, and certainly not for political purpose. They were political because it couldn't be avoided, but the evidence suggests he did the deeds, especially re 1/6.

I am appalled that his deeds go unpunished, all because of Belief in Fiction in the court of public opinion.

I saw zero cases with merit and can/happily will argue that position with fact and precedent.

Every American should be appalled. If you condone it…you ARE part of the problem.

The problem is you.

And no you have not argued anything for years. You just spit unsupported partisan opinion.

You are either as dumb as you act. I doubt it. Or you do it intentionally to mislead fold which makes you a partisan lier.

quote:

Originally posted by LHeym500:
The problem is you.

And no you have not argued anything for years. You just spit unsupported partisan opinion.

You are either as dumb as you act. I doubt it. Or you do it intentionally to mislead fold which makes you a partisan lier.

Don't discount the distinct possibility that he is both that dumb AND a willing liar.

quote:

Or you do it intentionally to mislead fold which makes you a partisan lier.

I think that's it.

There's something odd about Lane and his posts.

I have never seen him admit being wrong or changing his mind about anything despite having lost practically all the arguments he participates in.

Very few people in real life are so filled with hubris. Trump, of course, is one of them too.

Words and ideas of ancient wisdom:

"Those who show hubris often experience a severe reversal of fortune, known as nemesis. The consequences serve as a reminder of human limitations and the dangers of arrogance. In the myth of Icarus, Icarus displays hubris when he ignores his father Daedalus's warnings and flies too close to the sun."

Trump, MAGA, the whole bunch of flying monkeys are flying too close to the sun.

kar·ma
[ˈkärmə]
noun
(in Hinduism and Buddhism) the sum of a person's actions in this and previous states of existence, viewed as deciding their fate in future existences.

That means that all MAGA will be reincarnated as toads, and Trump as a bull frog. Burrrpt

Where did all the Biden’s votes in 2020 go in 2024?
USPS I assume didn’t deliver this time around

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:

quote:

Originally posted by LHeym500:
The problem is you.

And no you have not argued anything for years. You just spit unsupported partisan opinion.

You are either as dumb as you act. I doubt it. Or you do it intentionally to mislead fold which makes you a partisan lier.

Don't discount the distinct possibility that he is both that dumb AND a willing liar.

that's a bit of self reflection on your part, aint it, fifi?

quote:

I saw zero cases with merit and can/happily will argue that position with fact and precedent.

There is no precedent for Trump's conduct.

quote:

Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

quote:

I saw zero cases with merit and can/happily will argue that position with fact and precedent.

There is no precedent for Trump's conduct.

other than the 99.99% congruence with history, you are almost right, headless

oh you meant treatment under the US Legal system? dang, you ALMOST made a cogent thought .. sooo close, elitist

posted 12 January 2025 01:28 Hide Post
I went and read the judge’s sentence. It is clear the sentence was influenced by DOJ policy that a setting president cannot be prosecuted and the immunity decision w Trump taking office. In part:

To be sure, it is the legal protections afforded to the Office of the President of the United States that are extraordinary, not the occupant of the office. The legal protections, especially within the context of a criminal prosecution afforded to the Office of the President, have been laid out by our founders, the Constitution, and most recently interpreted by the United States Supreme Court in the matter of Trump v. The United States, which was decided on July 1st, 2024.

Jane Rosenberg/Reuters
New York State Judge Juan Merchan sentences President-elect Donald Trump as he appears remotely for a sentencing hearing at New York Criminal Court in New York City, Jan. 10, 2025, in this courtroom sketch.
Jane Rosenberg/Reuters

As with every other defendant in your position, it is my obligation to consider any and all aggravating or mitigating factors to inform my decision. Some of those aggravating factors have already been articulated in my Sandoval ruling at the start of this trial and by my recent written decisions on December 16th and January 3rd. Thus, they need not be repeated at this time. However, the considerable, indeed extraordinary legal protections afforded by the office of the Chief Executive is a factor that overrides all others.

To be clear, the protections afforded to the office of the president are not a mitigating factor. They do not reduce the seriousness of the crime or justify its commission in any way. The protections are, however, a legal mandate which, pursuant to the rule of law, this court must respect and follow. However, despite the extraordinary breadth of those protections, one power they do not provide is a power to erase a jury verdict.

It is clear from legal precedent -- which until July 1st was scarce -- that Donald Trump, the ordinary citizen, Donald Trump, the criminal defendant, would not be entitled to such considerable protections. I'm referring to protections that extend well beyond those afforded the average defendant who winds their way through the criminal justice system each day. No, ordinary citizens do not receive those legal protections. It is the Office of the President that bestows those far-reaching protections to the office holder, and it was the citizenry of this nation that recently decided that you should once again receive the benefits of those protections, which include, among other things, the Supremacy Clause and presidential immunity. It is through that lens and that reality that this court must determine a lawful sentence.

After careful analysis in obedience to governing mandates and pursuant to the rule of law, this court has determined that the only lawful sentence that permits entry of a judgment of conviction without encroaching upon the highest office in the land is an unconditional discharge, which the New York State Legislature has determined is a lawful and permissible sentence for the crime of falsifying business records in the first degree.

Therefore, at this time I impose that sentence to cover all 34 counts.


Trump’s pre-sentencing report is especially damning.

The judge did not pronounce a sentence of unconditional discharge because he felt the trial and charges were not just. His sentence reflects in his professional discretion what the rule of law requires given the American people have bestows a special status upon Trump. It is the legal status president that matters and not the man. That is the rule of law. The process is more important than the outcome.

When I write of the sphere of influence, I'm mostly thinking about the voice of reason. The flip side of course has influence too.

There are few people herein, IMO, that have influence for whatever it's worth, the voice of reason, like LHeym.

I for one appreciate him and what he stands for.

quote:

I have never seen him admit being wrong or changing his mind about anything despite having lost practically all the arguments he participates in.

That is hilarious. And I suppose you are the arbiter? No wonder you are a Merchan, and Joshua fan…you manufacture your own truths like they.

quote:

Originally posted by LHeym500:
The problem is you.

And no you have not argued anything for years. You just spit unsupported partisan opinion.

You are either as dumb as you act. I doubt it. Or you do it intentionally to mislead fold which makes you a partisan lier.

Joshua,
You are nothing but a youthful ideological idiot. You have never built, produced, engineered, manufactured, cured, managed, or invented anything. You can barely even write a coherent paragraph. If you start tomorrow, work real hard…you might be able to accomplish an inkling of what I have done in my career and I am only 60. I still have another decade of beating you in all walks of life to go. I do pray that you do one day come to your senses…if for no other reason than to spare the great state of Kentucky of harm you may inflict on my industry, colleagues, and friends their.

Make no mistake…you, your ilk, and your generation are part of the downfall of the USA.

You are no part of the solution and the epitome of the problem. The fact that you are not appalled at the mockery that Merchan and Bragg have made of your profession, not mention the disdain for the rule of law they have garnered…exemplifies that fact.

Nice bit of rhetoric there, ledvm, but it's empty of facts.

I agree--I've never seen you concede a point, no matter how minor.

I once saw a very knowledgeable expert witness demolished on the stand--without even realizing it. The witness disagreed with every question the opposing attorney asked--until he came off looking like a paid shill.