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Kimmel made some comments that were untrue (the shooter was MAGA/Trump supporter) and the parent company fired or suspended (not really sure which as I’ve heard both) him, probably to protect themselves in case of a lawsuit.

I've been thinking about that remark and have a problem with it. Who has standing to sue over Kimmel's apparently false comments about the shooter's politics?

The shooter? Good luck on that one.

I can't think of anyone else who has standing to sue.

Of course, lack of standing hasn't stopped Trump from suing before. But his suits got tossed in early stages of the litigation.

https://youtu.be/WrZ4tY0Q6b0?si=_-a2dSneO-m2o4Vj

What the move to pull Kimmel off the air says about free speech under Trump

So the FCC is being used to silence any criticism??

Yeah, that's what seems to be happening, Saeed.

If the big media are censored and too cowardly to fight it, small forums like this one, where free speech is encouraged, will become more important.

If ABC wants to fire Kimmel as a private employer for his speech, some contractual creative control on Kimmel’s part notwithstanding, that is ABC’s right.

No one should be celebrating this Regime’s use of regulatory threat to force private employers’ hand over employee speech. That is what happened w Kimmel. Regulations before this Tyrant and this S. Ct., did not work that way. They existed in a larger, legal, non-capricious framework. They were not made up nor threatened based on the whim of the Executive (despite the lies the fake conservatives here will say).

Notice the Texas Contingent m/MAGA w who are so happy that Kimmel, South Park, Colbert getting pulled are the ones who are lionizing Kirk as a Martyr to Speech, Open Debate.

Go read the killer’s justification to his parents for killing Kirk. He cities more scripture than a Christmas Mass. Hence, why De. Easter’s view of religion and the state has to be designed in debate, the ballot box, and law.

I am hearing Trump is going to sign an Executive Order against Trans people.

NY Times is reporting the FCC Chief threatened Disney. Disney is ABC’s parent company.

That is a red flag.

To Kirk’s credit as a free speech absolutist when South Park made him a topic. He called it funny, he laughed, and sued conservatives have thick skin.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

I am hearing Trump is going to sign an Executive Order against Trans people.

It will probably be something like this:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/29...t-community-intl-cmd

Uganda passed one of the world’s harshest anti-gay laws. LGBTQ people describe living there as ‘hell’

By Larry Madowo and Bethlehem Feleke, CNN
6 min read
Updated 1:47 AM EDT, Thu June 29, 2023

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/w...ce-for-in-some-cases

Uganda’s new anti-gay legislation includes death sentence in some cases
World Updated on May 29, 2023 2:06 PM EDT — Published on May 29, 2023 10:56 AM EDT

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
NY Times is reporting the FCC Chief threatened Disney. Disney is ABC’s parent company.

That is a red flag.

There was some billion $ deal or merger at stake which required FCC's approval.

https://youtu.be/_VW2A0kYeLs?si=Ezm93ZUBR9WwUc_B&t=79

We Are All Jimmy Kimmel | The Easy Way Or The Hard Way | Trump Urges NBC To Cancel Fallon And Meyer…

The Late Show with Stephen Colbert

Sep 18, 2025 #Colbert #Comedy #Monologue
ABC yanked “Jimmy Kimmel Live” off the air following a threat from FCC chair Brendan Carr, and President Trump celebrated his administration’s success in blackmailing media companies in order to silence his critics.


https://youtu.be/ZdGLJly6P7c?si=SSqoZD-QuV6HM8KT

That nexstar and it's 32 affiliate ABC stations, said they were pulling Kimmels show has nothing to do with disneys decision? And it looks like that was before any FCC reaction.

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That nexstar and it's 32 affiliate ABC stations, said they were pulling Kimmels show has nothing to do with disneys decision?

That doesn't read like a question, even though you used a question mark at the end of the statement.

Some here must have never played connect the dots. Kimmel makes comments on Kirk. FCC chair says Kimmel needs to go one way or another. There is a multi-billion dollar deal pending involving networks that run Kimmel that would required FCC approval. Kimmel gets canned. All the foregoing takes place in a matter of 3-4 days. The FCC chair praises the action. I hope some of you are just feigning ignorance and are not really as obtuse as you come across.

I think this is very good:

https://youtu.be/FxeqrQY7CH0?si=_SvT3sEH4xrOXJor

Jimmy Kimmel and the First Amendment | Explainer

Hmm, let's connect these dots:

Recently, in this forum, someone used something Jon Stewart said several years ago to support his point.

I mentioned that IMO, Jon Stewart has changed his tune.

Well, here's an example:

https://youtube.com/shorts/Q2V...?si=ccpjXNa34T6zbxG1

Maybe he's next on Trump's cancellation list.

The quwstion was right there Kabob.
Do you think 32 networks dropping him, before the FCC said anything, might have something to do with disneys decision. How much clearer do you need?

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Originally posted by theback40:
The quwstion was right there Kabob.
Do you think 32 networks dropping him, before the FCC said anything, might have something to do with disneys decision. How much clearer do you need?

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

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That nexstar and it's 32 affiliate ABC stations, said they were pulling Kimmels show has nothing to do with disneys decision?

That doesn't read like a question, even though you used a question mark at the end of the statement.

So it was a quwstion? Now I understad.

ooh, I made a typo. you do understad it happens?

Yes, I understad it hoppens.

So why the prick reply?

If Disney had decided independently to drop Kimmel, why did the FCC Chair need to put his thumps on the scale?

Again, there is no and should be no legal remedy (barring a contract breach) for a private employer terminating an employee due to an employee’s speech. That is the state of our law.

However, when the President is on record that those who give him bad press can have their licenses pulled by the FCC, and the FCC Chair interjects himself in the manner he did w Kimmel we should all be concerned.

Except trump cant, he's doing his usual BS running off at the mouth. If the FCC tried, they would loose in court. You are always the one to say, let the courts decide.
Nexstar, that very night told disney they were dropping kimmel. His ratings were in the red with their affiliates.
The FCC didnt need to, nor should have got involved. Kimmel was going down, all on his own though.
If you can prove anything the FCC could have legally done, I'd like to see it. Everything I have read said no. That makes it hot air.

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Originally posted by theback40:
So why the prick reply?

I didn't know it was a prick reply.

I thought I was simply svoiding the quwstion.

And I don't know that what you claimed is true. I did a quick search and wasn't able to verify it. Just because you said it doesn't make it true.

And debating with you hasn't been fun in the past.

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

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Originally posted by theback40:
So why the prick reply?

I didn't know it was a prick reply.

I thought I was simply svoiding the quwstion.

And I don't know that what you claimed is true. I did a quick search and wasn't able to verify it. Just because you said it doesn't make it true.

And debating with you hasn't been fun in the past.

remember the free speech is only when it works their way ...

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Originally posted by theback40:
Except trump cant, he's doing his usual BS running off at the mouth. If the FCC tried, they would loose in court. You are always the one to say, let the courts decide.
Nexstar, that very night told disney they were dropping kimmel. His ratings were in the red with their affiliates.
The FCC didnt need to, nor should have got involved. Kimmel was going down, all on his own though.
If you can prove anything the FCC could have legally done, I'd like to see it. Everything I have read said no. That makes it hot air.

Except he is.

His 14tb Amendment EO

All the colleges that settled before Harvard won in Court.

Your hatred for Dems blinds you.

This regime has proven they do not care about precedent nor the law. Look at their defiance concerning providing due process to migrants, and a few citizens they deported.

Projecting much eggbert?
I'm to emotionally deficient to hate anything.
I find a good deal of disgust for both parties if that helps.
The overreach has been taken into overdrive for a couple decades now. The presidents now throw shit against the wall to see what sticks.
I dont know the %, but it seems like less than half are actually legal, the rest struck down
As far as party goes, neither side has respect for precedent anymore. But, it still can be challenged in court.

And Dems been doing it for decades and now the shoe is on the other foot and sky is falling
You people have short memories

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Originally posted by theback40:
Projecting much eggbert?
I'm to emotionally deficient to hate anything.
I find a good deal of disgust for both parties if that helps.
The overreach has been taken into overdrive for a couple decades now. The presidents now throw shit against the wall to see what sticks.
I dont know the %, but it seems like less than half are actually legal, the rest struck down
As far as party goes, neither side has respect for precedent anymore. But, it still can be challenged in court.

Your ramblings do not change Trump has attempted to revoke citizenship conferred by the 14th Amendment and application by the S. Ct. That he has repeatedly declined to follow 14th Amendment due process to migrants, and his Regime has deported civilians.

Trump is not talk. He is a tyrant. He should be removed by Congress through impeachment. The fact Congress will not change that.

He cares naught for the restrictions of his office as provided for by our Constitution.

If he would use an Eo to void citizenship, he is more than capable of using the FCC to remove media based on his whim.

You are right the FCC Chair should not have inserted himself. Yet, he did.


Major Universities settled w Trump, only to have Harvard beat him in court. The fact an action may be voided by a court does not stop him from pressuring and violating law for his personal gain as long as he can.

Again, if the FCC pressure upon the merger was not a factor, then why did the FCC apply that pressure?

Ultimately, the FCC Chair’s actions were not enough to amount to government action. I agree with that.

I am for all free speech.

If Disney wanted to keep Kimmel, they would and challenge in court. They don’t cause he doesn’t make money so they are happy to wash their hands of him and try to blame Trump at the same time.

We should elect folks who do not create regimes that flagrantly and consistently violate our laws.

ABC, Kimmel, You should expect an administration that understands government cannot force people from their jobs due to speech.


Keeping Kimmel if that happened is a non-issue.

Trump is unique in the modern presidency for that.

If the FCC told Disney fire him or else, it won’t matter that ABC wanted to do.

One thing I just thought of.

Kimmel may not actually be terminated. He could be getting paid, but the suspension of his show would still be actionable if directed by the Regime.

We have the Judicial branch for a reason. Disney is well versed and experienced is using it. If the executive branch broke the law…Disney would sue.

Did anyone expect anything good from the sorry excuse of a human being??

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
One thing I just thought of.

Kimmel may not actually be terminated. He could be getting paid, but the suspension of his show would still be actionable if directed by the Regime.

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Jimmy Kimmel was not fired. His late-night show, *Jimmy Kimmel Live!*, was suspended indefinitely by ABC (a Disney-owned network) following controversy over comments he made in a monologue about the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk and reactions to the suspected killer. Kimmel himself remains employed by ABC, with the network planning to discuss his future on-air content before resuming production.

I think that’s why we have a Republican House and Senate. I.e., Trump banned from Twitter, Babylon Bee, Mega censorship Facebook, mainstream media censoring Biden’s losing his mind, Jan. 6th committee destroying evidence, FBI corruption , 51 intelligence gurus saying laptop wasn’t real, Clinton abuse of Haiti and other funds, 30,000 emails destroyed, etc.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
We should elect folks who do not create regimes that flagrantly and consistently violate our laws.

ABC, Kimmel, You should expect an administration that understands government cannot force people from their jobs due to speech.


Keeping Kimmel if that happened is a non-issue.

Trump is unique in the modern presidency for that.

If the FCC told Disney fire him or else, it won’t matter that ABC wanted to do.

Judge, you left out The Onion, my favorite.

Some samples:

https://theonion.com/gavin-new...tic-surgeons-office/

Gavin Newsom, Kristi Noem Nod Silently To Each Other In Plastic Surgeon’s Office

https://theonion.com/bored-tru...new-shows-to-cancel/

Bored Trump Spends Night Channel Surfing For New Shows To Cancel

https://theonion.com/trump-ren...e-department-of-ham/

Trump Renames White House Fridge Department Of Ham

https://theonion.com/fact-chec...rump-on-voter-fraud/

Fact-Checking Trump On Voter Fraud

President Donald Trump recently reiterated claims that the U.S. electoral system remains highly susceptible to voter fraud. The Onion assesses the veracity of the president’s claims.

Claim: Vote counts are inflated with millions of illegal votes.

False: It is not illegal for women to vote yet.

Claim: Democrats are getting illegal immigrants to vote.

False: Democrats can’t get anyone to vote.

Claim: There is widespread voter fraud.

False: It is virtually impossible to bypass the nation’s robust voter suppression systems.

Claim: There are many instances of the same person voting twice in one election.

Partially True: He means twins.

Claim: Voting machines can’t be trusted.

True: It’s well known that electricity has a liberal bias.

Claim: The 2020 election was stolen.

False: Democrats were as surprised as anyone that they won the White House in 2020.

Claim: The powers that be are secretly rigging elections behind the scenes.

False: They’re rigging them out in the open.

As you would say junior, ( yawn).
Your favorite line has always been, " let the courts decide".
As I have noted, this has been going on for years.
James Rosen was listed by the DOJ as a potential co-conspirator. Holder signed off on him being a flight risk, to keep him from being informed of surveillance. He was working for fox at the time. That was not seen as stifling opposition to the obo supporters, oddly enough.
Throw a tantrum junior if it makes you feel better. This seems to be the way it is, we dont like it, but nobody puts forth a worthy candidate who changes things.