a fascist when they meet one

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...dccaee13e17bc2&ei=20

Just shows how dumb that some of these people who we used to think were smart really are.

Anyone who buys into this fascist BS needs to have a psychiatric evaluation. Nuts.

The nuts part is that ANYONE would support Trump knowing what we know about the POS and after his actions on Jan the 6th. Completely nuts, but yet here we are.

Apparently Mark Milley had the exact same assessment of the Orange Turd.

https://www.washingtonpost.com...onald-trump-fascist/

You’ve bought the narrative sold to you by the media. Think for yourself, who has better policy?

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Originally posted by tomahawker:
You’ve bought the narrative sold to you by the media. Think for yourself, who has better policy?

I do think for myself and refuse to support any SOB that tries to steal an election.

Trump's policy sucks, unless you happen to be a Putin supporter, then Trump is your man

Have your own opinion all you want. But as a friend, don’t show your ignorance by trying to push this phony fascist narrative. It truly is bullshit.

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:
Have your own opinion all you want. But as a friend, don’t show your ignorance by trying to push this phony fascist narrative. It truly is bullshit.

No, no, the bullshit is backing a POS that tried to steal the last election.

Trump's affinity for autocrats is well documented, nothing false at all about it. I bet it is uncomfortable for the Trumptards though.

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:
Have your own opinion all you want. But as a friend, don’t show your ignorance by trying to push this phony fascist narrative. It truly is bullshit.

No, no, the bullshit is backing a POS that tried to steal the last election.

Trump's affinity for autocrats is well documented, nothing false at all about it. I bet it is uncomfortable for the Trumptards though.

No, because we are smart enough to know it is pure bullshit.

PS: I used to have respect for Kelly. But I have always thought Milley was an idiot.

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:
Have your own opinion all you want. But as a friend, don’t show your ignorance by trying to push this phony fascist narrative. It truly is bullshit.

No, no, the bullshit is backing a POS that tried to steal the last election.

Trump's affinity for autocrats is well documented, nothing false at all about it. I bet it is uncomfortable for the Trumptards though.

No, because we are smart enough to know it is pure bullshit.

That is what your echo chamber tells you, your eyes saw something completely different on J the 6th but X and Fox got you back in the cult way of thinking.

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:
PS: I used to have respect for Kelly. But I have always thought Milley was an idiot.

Both are far more respectable and believable than the Orange Turd.

. . . I guess you are too blinded by the Orange Jesus' aura to pause to think that it is not just Kelly, it is Mattis, Pence, Tillerson, Barr, Esper, Bolton and a list as long as your arm of people you "used to respect" but as soon as they called out the Orange Jesus they became sellouts and idiots.

Its just the fact that they wrong about the fascist narrative. When you’re wrong…you’re wrong.

Anyone buying into this fascism BS should schedule their psych appointment or just commit themselves — total BS.

A rhetorical question since I already know the answer, but does it give you any pause that so many of the former Administration officials that worked directly with Trump regularly have come out since serving with him questioning his intelligence, leadership, loyalty to country, etc.? You realize we are not talking about one or two people, even a number of people you can count on both hands, you are going to need your hands and feet and some other folks hands and feet to count them all. All sellouts and idiots?

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:
Just shows how dumb that some of these people who we used to think were smart really are.

Anyone who buys into this fascist BS needs to have a psychiatric evaluation. Nuts.

Maybe, it shows what a hack you are.

They are better positioned to know better than you. In addition, the narrative is strong. You refuse to even watch Jan 6 Committee hearings.

You have nothing to make an opinion on.

And anyone who votes for either Commie Kamala or the MAGA ARSEHOLE need their heads examined!

quote:

Originally posted by tomahawker:
You’ve bought the narrative sold to you by the media. Think for yourself, who has better policy?

It took a while for the Fascist narrative to catch on. It was resisted because it seems a stretch, until analyzed for content. Plus it seems divisive to make the call. It seems absurd that country loving Americans would support such a thing.

But it is what it is. And it ain't what Fox News tells you what to think.

In regard to Trump(ism) - better policy? It's obvious that having a policy that resembles conservativism doesn't preclude fascism as a means. In fact, fascist means are intrinsic in the plans for policy success, namely project 2025. Policy and Fascism might be two different things to ID, but obviously they can be conflated and not admit it.

When you have years of policy failure and lack of acceptance by the majority, what's logical to hard-right so-deemed conservatives? One would think compromise. But no - they double-down, go further right, run off all the RINOs, lie, and adopt fascist play book and a demagogue agent.

The thought never occurs that when you have policy failures, a Fascist means is gonna fail too, sooner or later.

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Several years ago I made a wish, and even posted it herein.

It has reinforced the old saying that one ought to be very careful of what he wishes for.

The genie in the bottle doesn't care.

I wished that the Right would fully expose themselves as to their ideology. At the time my idea was that the public would see and understand the obvious, reject it, and things would change for the better.

I had no idea how wrong I was. I didn't know that the rabbit hole was that deep and there was no escape. It could only get deeper.

My wish has been partially realized because the Right has revealed themselves for what and who they are and represent. If Trump wins we are gonna realize much more.

But my expectation was reasonable people would make the right choices, given enough evidence. That turned out to be partially true as evidenced by so many conservatives who declare non-support for Trump(ism).

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:
Just shows how dumb that some of these people who we used to think were smart really are.

Anyone who buys into this fascist BS needs to have a psychiatric evaluation. Nuts.

Trump can be quoted as advocating the suspension of the Constitution, military tribunals for political opponents, that politically opposed Americans are greater enemies to the US than foreign enemies but isn't a fascist.

I think you repeatedly tell me not to listen to Trump's words because his own words labels himself a fascist.


https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

How does Trump not meet this definition?

I think Lane supports Fascist means to an end.

It's just that he's so righteous about the end goals that he can't recognize the means as fascist, and thus bypasses the justification altogether.

When he says: "psychiatric evaluation. Nuts" he's projecting.

I had a "discussion" with a relative lately and told her about my wish of several years ago.

She flipped it and said the Right had exposed the Left. Then she gave several examples, which were parroting things Trump said and Fox amplified with edited clips.

I looked up the claims which were easily debunked with truth and context.

She could not be swayed. She made excuses and rationalizations to maintain the cognitive bias.


She believes lies and thinks they expose the Left. But in reality, it exposes the Right.

One other thing she said that really struck me was that all those people claiming to be conservative who don't support Trump aren't really conservatives because they are abandoning their principles.

I was shocked, because I always thought of it as they were maintaining their principles, specifically in finding Trump(ism) abhorrent.

Lane has no objection to fascism as long as he gets a spiffy black uniform and gets to let his racism and elitism out.

He thinks Stephen Miller is a bigger patriot than two Generals with a combined 70+ years of honorable service.

I whole heartedly agree w Jeff on that one.

I will add, Dr. Easter does not care if government is using the mechanisms of government to place controls or direction on the economy. He just wants it to benefit him.

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:
Have your own opinion all you want. But as a friend, don’t show your ignorance by trying to push this phony fascist narrative. It truly is bullshit.

No, no, the bullshit is backing a POS that tried to steal the last election.

Trump's affinity for autocrats is well documented, nothing false at all about it. I bet it is uncomfortable for the Trumptards though.

No, because we are smart enough to know it is pure bullshit.

Per my prediction, Lane's got nothing other than "oh no, it's just not true".....cult member.

Let me think. Who might be better informed? A career military officer who served as trump's WH Chief of Staff for two years or a horse doctor from Texas? Hmmmm....

Here are two of the issues with different take-aways, depending on bias and source, that I mentioned above.

These are examples of what I'm talking about.

Decipher the truth:

Claim:
The Trump administration’s approach is notable in light of a campaign ad that slams Vice President Kamala Harris for supporting taxpayer-funded transgender surgeries for prisoners and migrants.


https://www.nytimes.com/2024/1....html?smid=url-share

Under Trump, U.S. Prisons Offered Gender-Affirming Care
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Claim:
The DOJ is blocking voter roll purge in states like Alabama and Virginia in order to allow non-citizens to vote.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yj98grr5lo

Can illegal immigrants (non-US citizen) really vote in the US election?
12 October 2024

Donald Trump and his Republican allies have repeatedly claimed that the Democrats are planning to get illegal immigrants to vote in the US election.

“Our elections are bad, and a lot of these illegal immigrants coming in, they're trying to get them to vote,” Trump said during the presidential debate with Kamala Harris.

BBC Verify has identified more than 100 paid-for ads on Facebook and Instagram posted by Republicans since the start of September focusing on the issue.

It is illegal for a non-US citizen to vote in a national election, but studies suggest cases of this actually happening are very rare.

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Here's the general search results:

https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

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The claims are based on Trump spew with Fox News amplifying.

There are hundreds of such examples.

I don’t buy that Trump is a fascist.

Yes, he’s a bad choice.

He certainly has stated desire for some autocratic trappings associated with both fascist and communist regimes.

But I really doubt that Trump will be able to do what Mussolini did… get government to work efficiently. He won’t “get the trains to run on time.”

Trump is as much a fascist as Harris is a communist… not that much so.

The fact that he can’t does not excuse the attempt on Jan 6 and the Bog Lie.

Fox News has a different view of the content in the following articles, but I won't post Fox link. Look it up yourself if you haven't already seen it.

https://www.theatlantic.com/po...l&utm_campaign=share

Donald Trump’s Fascist Romp
After the former president described American citizens as “the enemy within,” Glenn Youngkin reveals his own complicity.

By Tom Nichols

October 14, 2024

Over the past week, Donald Trump has been on a fascist romp. At rallies in Colorado and California, he amped up his usual rants, and added a rancid grace note by suggesting that a woman heckler should “get the hell knocked out of her” by her mother after she gets back home. But on Sunday morning, he outdid himself in an interview on Fox News, by saying that “the enemy within”—Americans he described as “radical left lunatics,” including Representative Adam Schiff of California, whom he mentioned by name—are more dangerous than Russia or China, and could be “very easily handled” by the National Guard or the U.S. military.

This wasn’t the first time Trump suggested using America’s armed forces against its own people: As president, he thought of the military as his personal guard and regularly fantasized about commanding “his generals” to crush dissent, which is one reason former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley reportedly told Bob Woodward that he sees Trump as “fascist to his core.”

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https://www.theatlantic.com/po...l&utm_campaign=share

Trump Is Speaking Like Hitler, Stalin, and Mussolini
The former president has brought dehumanizing language into American presidential politics.

By Anne Applebaum

October 18, 2024

Rhetoric has a history. The words democracy and tyranny were debated in ancient Greece; the phrase separation of powers became important in the 17th and 18th centuries. The word vermin, as a political term, dates from the 1930s and ’40s, when both fascists and communists liked to describe their political enemies as vermin, parasites, and blood infections, as well as insects, weeds, dirt, and animals. The term has been revived and reanimated, in an American presidential campaign, with Donald Trump’s description of his opponents as “radical-left thugs” who “live like vermin.”

This language isn’t merely ugly or repellent: These words belong to a particular tradition. Adolf Hitler used these kinds of terms often. In 1938, he praised his compatriots who had helped “cleanse Germany of all those parasites who drank at the well of the despair of the Fatherland and the People.” In occupied Warsaw, a 1941 poster displayed a drawing of a louse with a caricature of a Jewish face. The slogan: “Jews are lice: they cause typhus.” Germans, by contrast, were clean, pure, healthy, and vermin-free. Hitler once described the Nazi flag as “the victorious sign of freedom and the purity of our blood.”

Stalin used the same kind of language at about the same time. He called his opponents the “enemies of the people,” implying that they were not citizens and that they enjoyed no rights. He portrayed them as vermin, pollution, filth that had to be “subjected to ongoing purification,” and he inspired his fellow communists to employ similar rhetoric. In my files, I have the notes from a 1955 meeting of the leaders of the Stasi, the East German secret police, during which one of them called for a struggle against “vermin activities” (there is, inevitably, a German word for this: Schädlingstätigkeiten), by which he meant the purge and arrest of the regime’s critics. In this same era, the Stasi forcibly moved suspicious people away from the border with West Germany, a project nicknamed “Operation Vermin.”

This kind of language was not limited to Europe. Mao Zedong also described his political opponents as “poisonous weeds.” Pol Pot spoke of “cleansing” hundreds of thousands of his compatriots so that Cambodia would be “purified.”

In each of these very different societies, the purpose of this kind of rhetoric was the same. If you connect your opponents with disease, illness, and poisoned blood, if you dehumanize them as insects or animals, if you speak of squashing them or cleansing them as if they were pests or bacteria, then you can much more easily arrest them, deprive them of rights, exclude them, or even kill them. If they are parasites, they aren’t human. If they are vermin, they don’t get to enjoy freedom of speech, or freedoms of any kind. And if you squash them, you won’t be held accountable.

Until recently, this kind of language was not a normal part of American presidential politics. Even George Wallace’s notorious, racist, neo-Confederate 1963 speech, his inaugural speech as Alabama governor and the prelude to his first presidential campaign, avoided such language. Wallace called for “segregation today, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever.” But he did not speak of his political opponents as “vermin” or talk about them poisoning the nation’s blood. Franklin D. Roosevelt’s Executive Order 9066, which ordered Japanese Americans into internment camps following the outbreak of World War II, spoke of “alien enemies” but not parasites.

In the 2024 campaign, that line has been crossed. Trump blurs the distinction between illegal immigrants and legal immigrants—the latter including his wife, his late ex-wife, the in-laws of his running mate, and many others. He has said of immigrants, “They’re poisoning the blood of our country” and “They’re destroying the blood of our country.” He has claimed that many have “bad genes.” He has also been more explicit: “They’re not humans; they’re animals”; they are “cold-blooded killers.” He refers more broadly to his opponents—American citizens, some of whom are elected officials—as “the enemy from within … sick people, radical-left lunatics.” Not only do they have no rights; they should be “handled by,” he has said, “if necessary, National Guard, or if really necessary, by the military.”

In using this language, Trump knows exactly what he is doing. He understands which era and what kind of politics this language evokes. “I haven’t read Mein Kampf,” he declared, unprovoked, during one rally—an admission that he knows what Hitler’s manifesto contains, whether or not he has actually read it. “If you don’t use certain rhetoric,” he told an interviewer, “if you don’t use certain words, and maybe they’re not very nice words, nothing will happen.”

His talk of mass deportation is equally calculating. When he suggests that he would target both legal and illegal immigrants, or use the military arbitrarily against U.S. citizens, he does so knowing that past dictatorships have used public displays of violence to build popular support. By calling for mass violence, he hints at his admiration for these dictatorships but also demonstrates disdain for the rule of law and prepares his followers to accept the idea that his regime could, like its predecessors, break the law with impunity.

These are not jokes, and Trump is not laughing. Nor are the people around him. Delegates at the Republican National Convention held up prefabricated signs: Mass Deportation Now. Just this week, when Trump was swaying to music at a surreal rally, he did so in front of a huge slogan: Trump Was Right About Everything. This is language borrowed directly from Benito Mussolini, the Italian fascist. Soon after the rally, the scholar Ruth Ben-Ghiat posted a photograph of a building in Mussolini’s Italy displaying his slogan: Mussolini Is Always Right.

These phrases have not been put on posters and banners at random in the final weeks of an American election season. With less than three weeks left to go, most candidates would be fighting for the middle ground, for the swing voters. Trump is doing the exact opposite. Why? There can be only one answer: because he and his campaign team believe that by using the tactics of the 1930s, they can win. The deliberate dehumanization of whole groups of people; the references to police, to violence, to the “bloodbath” that Trump has said will unfold if he doesn’t win; the cultivation of hatred not only against immigrants but also against political opponents—none of this has been used successfully in modern American politics.

But neither has this rhetoric been tried in modern American politics. Several generations of American politicians have assumed that American voters, most of whom learned to pledge allegiance to the flag in school, grew up with the rule of law, and have never experienced occupation or invasion, would be resistant to this kind of language and imagery. Trump is gambling—knowingly and cynically—that we are not.

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https://www.theatlantic.com/ma...l&utm_campaign=share

Trump Isn’t Bluffing
We’ve become inured to his rhetoric, but his message has grown darker.

https://www.theatlantic.com/id...l&utm_campaign=share

Have You Listened Lately to What Trump Is Saying?
He is becoming frighteningly clear about what he wants.

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:
Just shows how dumb that some of these people who we used to think were smart really are.

Anyone who buys into this fascist BS needs to have a psychiatric evaluation. Nuts.

Funny. Everything you post makes me think the same thing.

quote:

Originally posted by LongDistanceOperator:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:
Just shows how dumb that some of these people who we used to think were smart really are.

Anyone who buys into this fascist BS needs to have a psychiatric evaluation. Nuts.

Funny. Everything you post makes me think the same thing.

^^^ true that.

quote:

Originally posted by LongDistanceOperator:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:
Just shows how dumb that some of these people who we used to think were smart really are.

Anyone who buys into this fascist BS needs to have a psychiatric evaluation. Nuts.

Funny. Everything you post makes me think the same thing.

I don't know if Lane is really that ignorant or if he knows what fascism is and is lying.

quote:

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.[2][3] Opposed to anarchism, democracy, pluralism, egalitarianism, liberalism, socialism, and Marxism,[4][5] fascism is placed on the far right-wing within the traditional left–right spectrum

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Fascism's extreme authoritarianism and nationalism often manifest as a belief in racial purity or a master race, usually blended with some variant of racism or discrimination against a demonized "Other", such as Jews, homosexuals, transgender people, ethnic minorities, or immigrants.

quote:

Mussolini perceived women's primary role as primarily child bearers, while that of men as warriors, once saying: "War is to man what maternity is to the woman.

Sound familiar?

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The German Nazi government strongly encouraged women to stay at home to bear children and keep house.

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The Nazis said that homosexuality was degenerate, effeminate, perverted and undermined masculinity because it did not produce children.[285] They considered homosexuality curable through therapy, citing modern scientism and the study of sexology. Open homosexuals were interned in Nazi concentration camps.

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Fascism's extreme authoritarianism and nationalism often manifest as a belief in racial purity or a master race, usually blended with some variant of racism or discrimination against a demonized "Other", such as Jews, homosexuals, transgender people, ethnic minorities, or immigrants. These ideas have motivated fascist regimes to commit massacres, forced sterilizations, deportations, and genocides

Link

Certainly nothing there that sounds remotely like Trumpism, eh Lane?

quote:

Originally posted by Scott King:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:
Just shows how dumb that some of these people who we used to think were smart really are.

Anyone who buys into this fascist BS needs to have a psychiatric evaluation. Nuts.

Trump can be quoted as advocating the suspension of the Constitution, military tribunals for political opponents, that politically opposed Americans are greater enemies to the US than foreign enemies but isn't a fascist.

I think you repeatedly tell me not to listen to Trump's words because his own words labels himself a fascist.


https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

How does Trump not meet this definition?

Of Trumps former cabinet a lot of them don't now think he is worthy of their support. These are people who were picked by Trump ("we have the best people") and worked with him in his government.

These are people who agreed sufficiently with Trumps political stance that they agreed to work with / for him but who on knowing him and working with him now do not think he is fit to be president.

Some of them have gone so far as to characterise him as a moron. They, of all people, have a better basis to judge the man than virtually anyone else.

It should make any reasonable intelligent person wonder if support of him is justified.

quote:

Originally posted by nute:
It should make any reasonable intelligent person wonder if support of him is justified.

. . . therein lies the rub. Trumplicans are neither reasonable nor intelligent. Have you heard the interviews of folks attending Trump rallies? Make the greeter at Walmart look like a Rhodes Scholar.

quote:

Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
I think Lane supports Fascist means to an end.

It's just that he's so righteous about the end goals that he can't recognize the means as fascist, and thus bypasses the justification altogether.

When he says: "psychiatric evaluation. Nuts" he's projecting.

I had a "discussion" with a relative lately and told her about my wish of several years ago.

She flipped it and said the Right had exposed the Left. Then she gave several examples, which were parroting things Trump said and Fox amplified with edited clips.

I looked up the claims which were easily debunked with truth and context.

She could not be swayed. She made excuses and rationalizations to maintain the cognitive bias.


She believes lies and thinks they expose the Left. But in reality, it exposes the Right.

One other thing she said that really struck me was that all those people claiming to be conservative who don't support Trump aren't really conservatives because they are abandoning their principles.

I was shocked, because I always thought of it as they were maintaining their principles, specifically in finding Trump(ism) abhorrent.

I think it's be best and I wish you would stop having political discussions with family.

quote:

Originally posted by crbutler:
I don’t buy that Trump is a fascist.

Yes, he’s a bad choice.

He certainly has stated desire for some autocratic trappings associated with both fascist and communist regimes.

But I really doubt that Trump will be able to do what Mussolini did… get government to work efficiently. He won’t “get the trains to run on time.”

Trump is as much a fascist as Harris is a communist… not that much so.

By his own words Trump has identified himself as a fascist, how do you reason otherwise? That Trump a not "be able," has nothing to do with anything, if he intends to he is guilty of.

Honestly Doc, I'm wondering how much further people like you and I are going to be pushed before we do the previously unthinkable and vote for Harris in order to block Trump. The more Trump and his adherents here speak, the more worried I get.

quote:

Originally posted by Scott King:

quote:

Originally posted by crbutler:
I don’t buy that Trump is a fascist.

Yes, he’s a bad choice.

He certainly has stated desire for some autocratic trappings associated with both fascist and communist regimes.

But I really doubt that Trump will be able to do what Mussolini did… get government to work efficiently. He won’t “get the trains to run on time.”

Trump is as much a fascist as Harris is a communist… not that much so.

By his own words Trump has identified himself as a fascist, how do you reason otherwise? That Trump a not "be able," has nothing to do with anything, if he intends to he is guilty of.

Honestly Doc, I'm wondering how much further people like you and I are going to be pushed before we do the previously unthinkable and vote for Harris in order to block Trump. The more Trump and his adherents here speak, the more worried I get.

Harris is not a clear and present danger to the Constitution, Trump is.

I must have missed where Trump declared himself a Fascist?

He certainly has expressed a desire for authoritarian trappings... but fascism is more than just authoritarian trappings.

And no, none of it excuses his behaviors.

quote:

Originally posted by Scott King:

quote:

Originally posted by crbutler:
I don’t buy that Trump is a fascist.

Yes, he’s a bad choice.

He certainly has stated desire for some autocratic trappings associated with both fascist and communist regimes.

But I really doubt that Trump will be able to do what Mussolini did… get government to work efficiently. He won’t “get the trains to run on time.”

Trump is as much a fascist as Harris is a communist… not that much so.

By his own words Trump has identified himself as a fascist, how do you reason otherwise? That Trump a not "be able," has nothing to do with anything, if he intends to he is guilty of.

Honestly Doc, I'm wondering how much further people like you and I are going to be pushed before we do the previously unthinkable and vote for Harris in order to block Trump. The more Trump and his adherents here speak, the more worried I get.

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I must have missed where Trump declared himself a Fascist?

Scott didn't say Trump declared himself a fascist. He said Trump by his own words identified himself as a fascist.

Similarly, Trump identified himself as a sexual assailant by saying things like, "I just grab them by the pussy."

And lo, a jury of twelve agreed with the latter identification.

quote:

Originally posted by LHeym500:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:
Just shows how dumb that some of these people who we used to think were smart really are.

Anyone who buys into this fascist BS needs to have a psychiatric evaluation. Nuts.

Maybe, it shows what a hack you are.

They are better positioned to know better than you. In addition, the narrative is strong. You refuse to even watch Jan 6 Committee hearings.

You have nothing to make an opinion on.

quote:

Nick Ayers — Pence Chief of Staff:
I’ve avoided commenting on intra-staff leaks or rumors or even lies as it relates to my time at the White House but General Kelly’s comments regarding President Trump are too egregious to ignore. I was with each of them more than most, and his commentary is *patently false.*

https://x.com/nick_ayers/statu...156855106273331?s=46

It sure seems like a very small minority of those who worked in Trump's administration still support the Orange Turd compared to the many who have come out against him and who have stated that Trump is not fit for office(quite obvious really).

He’s such a fascist and a threat…I waited over 4 years to bring it up.

quote:

Originally posted by tomahawker:
He’s such a fascist and a threat…I waited over 4 years to bring it up.

Sometimes the truth takes time to rise to the top.

Seems like you have an unlimited thirst for the Kool-Aid that turd is selling.

Don't believe your own eyes? Don't see the autocrat tendencies on full display the day of J the 6th?

Sad really.