That’s on Pelosi.

quote:

Originally posted by tomahawker:
That’s on Pelosi.

Pretzel logic only a Trumptard could muster

Pelosi did not make Trump try to steal the election, he did that on his own, though several morons did help.

quote:

Originally posted by tomahawker:
He’s such a fascist and a threat…I waited over 4 years to bring it up.

If Trump was not the GOPer candidate who might win, the issue is sorta moot. And the evidence has been accumulating, a lot most recently.

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:
Anyone who buys into this fascist BS needs to have a psychiatric evaluation. Nuts.

Nick Ayers — Pence Chief of Staff:
I’ve avoided commenting on intra-staff leaks or rumors or even lies as it relates to my time at the White House but General Kelly’s comments regarding President Trump are too egregious to ignore. I was with each of them more than most, and his commentary is *patently false.*

https://x.com/nick_ayers/statu...156855106273331?s=46

Nick Ayers - Swamp Thing

https://highline.huffingtonpos...ck-ayers-mike-pence/

General Kelly - the Real Thing

https://www.bing.com/search?q=...&FORM=SSQNT1&PC=DCTS

The policy is just hot air.

Hitler & Marxism has great policies that assure peace and economic comfort for all. It assured utopian social life.

Reality is different. Both regimes resulted in tyranny and genocide. Loss of freedom for all (not just some).

How can anyone TRUST an insurrectionist & fraudulent convicted felon of implementing policies that will comply with the constitution and the rule of law?

quote:

Originally posted by tomahawker:
You’ve bought the narrative sold to you by the media. Think for yourself, who has better policy?

Lane

Show me one single example where Trump complied WILLINGLY with anyone who disagreed with him. Just one example please.

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:
Its just the fact that they wrong about the fascist narrative. When you’re wrong…you’re wrong.

Anyone buying into this fascism BS should schedule their psych appointment or just commit themselves — total BS.

quote:

Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

quote:

Originally posted by tomahawker:
He’s such a fascist and a threat…I waited over 4 years to bring it up.

If Trump was not the GOPer candidate who might win, the issue is sorta moot. And the evidence has been accumulating, a lot most recently.

Here's a follow-up on that question.

When I said sorta moot, I meant in the short term. Long term, the question remains as to why we reached this point. We just need time to deal with that.

Anyway, there are participants herein who believe Trump can't be effective regardless of his threats and rhetoric and all the loyalists and project 2025. They think the system will hold him in check.

That's a mistake that's been made before in history.

With his fascist rhetoric ramping up lately, the issue is more in our face.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...e0106c80ea58d0&ei=59

'Grave emergency': Why military officials are speaking out against Trump's 'fascist' comments

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
Lane

Show me one single example where Trump complied WILLINGLY with anyone who disagreed with him. Just one example please.

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:
Its just the fact that they wrong about the fascist narrative. When you’re wrong…you’re wrong.

Anyone buying into this fascism BS should schedule their psych appointment or just commit themselves — total BS.

right after you show us where YOU accepted criticism and stated you were wrong in your assumption.. well, other than complaining about how you ran your business into the ground 16 years ago, and haven't recovered yet

quote:

Originally posted by Scott King:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:
Just shows how dumb that some of these people who we used to think were smart really are.

Anyone who buys into this fascist BS needs to have a psychiatric evaluation. Nuts.

Trump can be quoted as advocating the suspension of the Constitution, military tribunals for political opponents, that politically opposed Americans are greater enemies to the US than foreign enemies but isn't a fascist.

I think you repeatedly tell me not to listen to Trump's words because his own words labels himself a fascist.


https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

How does Trump not meet this definition?

Trump is a populist. Trump is a nationalist (as am I…I am actually a white Christian nationalist )

Other than those two points there is absolutely no resemblance.

I will repeat. If you find yourself exclaiming Trump as a fascist…you should follow up with hollering Scotty…beam me up.

The only way one can conclude that Trump is NOT a fascist is to neither have any clue what fascism is NOR listen to what Trump says he will do if he regains office.

quote:

Thirteen former Trump White House officials signed an open letter backing up former Trump chief of staff John Kelly, who told the New York Times that Trump fits the definition of a fascist.

“We applaud General Kelly for highlighting in stark details the danger of a second Trump term. Like General Kelly, we did not take the decision to come forward lightly,” the letter said. “We are all lifelong Republicans who served our country. However, there are moments in history where it becomes necessary to put country over party. This is one of those moments.”

Link

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:
The only way one can conclude that Trump is NOT a fascist is to neither have any clue what fascism is NOR listen to what Trump says he will do if he regains office.

Nuttiest thing I have ever heard and spoken by a true nutter.

Jeff

Well, let's just say that it takes a lot of denial and rationalization to not recognize fascist-like rhetoric and plans coming from Trump and in addition the support from other politicians.

It's my opinion that the denial and rationalizations indicate fascist fodder or activist.

I'm being nice. It's worse to recognize the clues for what they are and actively support Trump(ism).

So, I'm calling you a denier whose cognitive bias simply bars you from reality recognition on this.

And that's the "nice" accusation. All this time and you still get the benefit of doubt.

However, Trump has EARNED or deserves no benefit of doubt. He has EARNED quite the opposite. He has worked hard to remove doubt as to what he is.

Nutter number 2 opines. ME

My post above is a combo of opinion and facts, with the opinions mostly hinged on facts.

For example, if Trump wasn't using fascist-like rhetoric, and there's project 2025 even though he lied and denied it, and if Trump didn't lie so much, and GOPers in congress too, and so much more in the package/baggage of Trumpism, and Trump wasn't a demagogue, then there would be practically zero basis for concluding he's fascist.

But the reality is that Trump is like a duck.

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then it's probably a duck.

Call him an eagle if you want. But don't expect agreement. And also expect your judgment to be questionable.

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:
The only way one can conclude that Trump is NOT a fascist is to neither have any clue what fascism is NOR listen to what Trump says he will do if he regains office.

Nuttiest thing I have ever heard and spoken by a true nutter.

Jeff

quote:

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.[2][3] Opposed to anarchism, democracy, pluralism, egalitarianism, liberalism, socialism, and Marxism,[4][5] fascism is placed on the far right-wing within the traditional left–right spectrum

...

Fascism's extreme authoritarianism and nationalism often manifest as a belief in racial purity or a master race, usually blended with some variant of racism or discrimination against a demonized "Other", such as Jews, homosexuals, transgender people, ethnic minorities, or immigrants.

...

Mussolini perceived women's primary role as primarily child bearers, while that of men as warriors, once saying: "War is to man what maternity is to the woman.


...


The German Nazi government strongly encouraged women to stay at home to bear children and keep house.

...

The Nazis said that homosexuality was degenerate, effeminate, perverted and undermined masculinity because it did not produce children.[285] They considered homosexuality curable through therapy, citing modern scientism and the study of sexology. Open homosexuals were interned in Nazi concentration camps.

...

Fascism's extreme authoritarianism and nationalism often manifest as a belief in racial purity or a master race, usually blended with some variant of racism or discrimination against a demonized "Other", such as Jews, homosexuals, transgender people, ethnic minorities, or immigrants. These ideas have motivated fascist regimes to commit massacres, forced sterilizations, deportations, and genocides.

Link

quote:

Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
My post above is a combo of opinion and facts, with the opinions mostly hinged on facts.

ME, I think you confuse facts with farts. There is a difference.

For example, if Trump wasn't using fascist-like rhetoric, and there's project 2025 even though he lied and denied it, and if Trump didn't lie so much, and GOPers in congress too, and so much more in the package/baggage of Trumpism, and Trump wasn't a demagogue, then there would be practically zero basis for concluding he's fascist.

But the reality is that Trump is like a duck.

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then it's probably a duck.

Call him an eagle if you want. But don't expect agreement. And also expect your judgment to be questionable.

ME

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:
The only way one can conclude that Trump is NOT a fascist is to neither have any clue what fascism is NOR listen to what Trump says he will do if he regains office.

Nuttiest thing I have ever heard and spoken by a true nutter.

Jeff

quote:

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.[2][3] Opposed to anarchism, democracy, pluralism, egalitarianism, liberalism, socialism, and Marxism,[4][5] fascism is placed on the far right-wing within the traditional left–right spectrum

...

Fascism's extreme authoritarianism and nationalism often manifest as a belief in racial purity or a master race, usually blended with some variant of racism or discrimination against a demonized "Other", such as Jews, homosexuals, transgender people, ethnic minorities, or immigrants.

...

Mussolini perceived women's primary role as primarily child bearers, while that of men as warriors, once saying: "War is to man what maternity is to the woman.


...


The German Nazi government strongly encouraged women to stay at home to bear children and keep house.

...

The Nazis said that homosexuality was degenerate, effeminate, perverted and undermined masculinity because it did not produce children.[285] They considered homosexuality curable through therapy, citing modern scientism and the study of sexology. Open homosexuals were interned in Nazi concentration camps.

...

Fascism's extreme authoritarianism and nationalism often manifest as a belief in racial purity or a master race, usually blended with some variant of racism or discrimination against a demonized "Other", such as Jews, homosexuals, transgender people, ethnic minorities, or immigrants. These ideas have motivated fascist regimes to commit massacres, forced sterilizations, deportations, and genocides.

Link

Jeff,
We have already recognized you as a class A number 1 nutter. No need to work overtime being an over achiever.

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:
The only way one can conclude that Trump is NOT a fascist is to neither have any clue what fascism is NOR listen to what Trump says he will do if he regains office.

Nuttiest thing I have ever heard and spoken by a true nutter.

Jeff

quote:

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.[2][3] Opposed to anarchism, democracy, pluralism, egalitarianism, liberalism, socialism, and Marxism,[4][5] fascism is placed on the far right-wing within the traditional left–right spectrum

...

Fascism's extreme authoritarianism and nationalism often manifest as a belief in racial purity or a master race, usually blended with some variant of racism or discrimination against a demonized "Other", such as Jews, homosexuals, transgender people, ethnic minorities, or immigrants.

...

Mussolini perceived women's primary role as primarily child bearers, while that of men as warriors, once saying: "War is to man what maternity is to the woman.


...


The German Nazi government strongly encouraged women to stay at home to bear children and keep house.

...

The Nazis said that homosexuality was degenerate, effeminate, perverted and undermined masculinity because it did not produce children.[285] They considered homosexuality curable through therapy, citing modern scientism and the study of sexology. Open homosexuals were interned in Nazi concentration camps.

...

Fascism's extreme authoritarianism and nationalism often manifest as a belief in racial purity or a master race, usually blended with some variant of racism or discrimination against a demonized "Other", such as Jews, homosexuals, transgender people, ethnic minorities, or immigrants. These ideas have motivated fascist regimes to commit massacres, forced sterilizations, deportations, and genocides.

Link

Jeff,
We have already recognized you as a class A number 1 nutter. No need to work overtime being an over achiever.

Anybody who can read written English can see MAGA directly reflected in those excepts. It's fascism.

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:
The only way one can conclude that Trump is NOT a fascist is to neither have any clue what fascism is NOR listen to what Trump says he will do if he regains office.

Nuttiest thing I have ever heard and spoken by a true nutter.

Jeff

quote:

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.[2][3] Opposed to anarchism, democracy, pluralism, egalitarianism, liberalism, socialism, and Marxism,[4][5] fascism is placed on the far right-wing within the traditional left–right spectrum

...

Fascism's extreme authoritarianism and nationalism often manifest as a belief in racial purity or a master race, usually blended with some variant of racism or discrimination against a demonized "Other", such as Jews, homosexuals, transgender people, ethnic minorities, or immigrants.

...

Mussolini perceived women's primary role as primarily child bearers, while that of men as warriors, once saying: "War is to man what maternity is to the woman.


...


The German Nazi government strongly encouraged women to stay at home to bear children and keep house.

...

The Nazis said that homosexuality was degenerate, effeminate, perverted and undermined masculinity because it did not produce children.[285] They considered homosexuality curable through therapy, citing modern scientism and the study of sexology. Open homosexuals were interned in Nazi concentration camps.

...

Fascism's extreme authoritarianism and nationalism often manifest as a belief in racial purity or a master race, usually blended with some variant of racism or discrimination against a demonized "Other", such as Jews, homosexuals, transgender people, ethnic minorities, or immigrants. These ideas have motivated fascist regimes to commit massacres, forced sterilizations, deportations, and genocides.

Link

Jeff,
We have already recognized you as a class A number 1 nutter. No need to work overtime being an over achiever.

Anybody who can read written English can see MAGA directly reflected in those excepts. It's fascism.

Is nutter not a high enough mark for you now? Are you questing for a straight-jacket?

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:
The only way one can conclude that Trump is NOT a fascist is to neither have any clue what fascism is NOR listen to what Trump says he will do if he regains office.

Nuttiest thing I have ever heard and spoken by a true nutter.

Jeff

quote:

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.[2][3] Opposed to anarchism, democracy, pluralism, egalitarianism, liberalism, socialism, and Marxism,[4][5] fascism is placed on the far right-wing within the traditional left–right spectrum

...

Fascism's extreme authoritarianism and nationalism often manifest as a belief in racial purity or a master race, usually blended with some variant of racism or discrimination against a demonized "Other", such as Jews, homosexuals, transgender people, ethnic minorities, or immigrants.

...

Mussolini perceived women's primary role as primarily child bearers, while that of men as warriors, once saying: "War is to man what maternity is to the woman.


...


The German Nazi government strongly encouraged women to stay at home to bear children and keep house.

...

The Nazis said that homosexuality was degenerate, effeminate, perverted and undermined masculinity because it did not produce children.[285] They considered homosexuality curable through therapy, citing modern scientism and the study of sexology. Open homosexuals were interned in Nazi concentration camps.

...

Fascism's extreme authoritarianism and nationalism often manifest as a belief in racial purity or a master race, usually blended with some variant of racism or discrimination against a demonized "Other", such as Jews, homosexuals, transgender people, ethnic minorities, or immigrants. These ideas have motivated fascist regimes to commit massacres, forced sterilizations, deportations, and genocides.

Link

Jeff,
We have already recognized you as a class A number 1 nutter. No need to work overtime being an over achiever.

Anybody who can read written English can see MAGA directly reflected in those excepts. It's fascism.

Is nutter not a high enough mark for you now? Are you questing for a straight-jacket?

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian ideology characterized by strong nationalism, dictatorial power, suppression of dissent, and often an emphasis on racial or cultural supremacy. Here are some signs or tendencies that might align with fascist beliefs:

1.Extreme Nationalism: Fascists prioritize a hyper-nationalist ideology, often idolizing their nation and promoting an “us versus them” mentality. They believe their country and culture are superior and often reject internationalism or multiculturalism.

Check

2.Authoritarianism: Fascists believe in strong, centralized authority, usually led by a single powerful leader. They often support the curtailing of democratic institutions and civil liberties, arguing that society functions better under strict control.

"Only I can fix it."

3.Disregard for Democratic Norms: Fascists may have little respect for democratic processes, often undermining electoral integrity, attacking the judiciary, or advocating for power to be concentrated in a single leader or small group.

January 6th, attacking every Judge he comes before except Cannon...

4.Suppression of Dissent: Fascists frequently reject freedom of speech and political pluralism, advocating for the suppression of any opposing viewpoints. Censorship, intimidation, and imprisonment of critics are common in fascist regimes.

Using the military against political opponents seems to fit...

5.Glorification of Military and Violence: Fascism often glorifies military strength, discipline, and action as the foundation of society. Fascists may believe violence or militarism is justified to achieve political goals, preserve “order,” or suppress perceived enemies.

The weakest point, since Trump was too weak to serve, so the Proud Boys and their ilk have to fill in.

6.Scapegoating and Persecution: Fascists frequently blame specific groups (ethnic, religious, political) for society’s problems. This leads to policies targeting these groups, promoting discrimination, exclusion, or even violence as a means of “purifying” or “protecting” the nation.

Gays, immigrants...

7.Anti-Intellectualism and Control of Information: Fascists often view intellectualism, higher education, and independent media as threats to their ideology. They may dismiss or discredit science, literature, and press that question their worldview, labeling them as corrupt or deceitful.

FAKE NEWS!

8.Obsession with Traditional Values: Fascist movements often promote a return to traditional values, particularly around family, gender roles, and religion, while decrying social progress or cultural change as morally degrading.

Bibles in schools, women should be forced to carry every pregnancy to term so a rapist has the right to choose who he breeds with...

9.Economic Control with Corporatist Elements: Fascists typically support a form of state-regulated capitalism where businesses align with government goals. They discourage worker movements and unions that conflict with state priorities.

Elon Musk, Leonard Leo...

10.Charismatic Leadership and Cult of Personality: Fascist regimes often center around a charismatic leader who is seen as embodying the will and power of the people. This leader is often above criticism and revered as a symbol of national strength.

That sure seems to describe the way some Republicans talk about somebody, I can't quite recall who it is...

EVERY SINGLE POINT, Dear Goat Doctor.

You are a proud member of a fascist movement.

Yep, certifiable nut.

quote:

Half the country sees former President Donald Trump as a fascist, amplifying concerns raised in recent days by Vice President Kamala Harris and past members of Trump's own administration. Far fewer in a new ABC News/Ipsos poll level the same charge against Harris.

Link

We already knew anyone who would vote for a Democrat is a nut Jeff.

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:
We already knew anyone who would vote for a Democrat is a nut Jeff.

I have given you textbook definitions of fascism and the fact that half of Americans agree that Trump is a fascist, so I'll let those reading decide for themselves whether one of us is a nut.

He's just trolling you, Jeffive. He offers nothing but bald opinions and name-calling.

And simply the FACT that other than being a populist (not his choice…just what he is) and a nationalist (as am I)…there is no resemblance of a fascist in Trump.

To see it any other way is just nutty.

Holocaust survivor rips Kamala Harris for boosting Trump-Hitler comparisons, says ex-prez is ‘a mensch’

quote:

“I know more about Hitler than Kamala will ever know in a thousand lifetimes,”

“For her to accuse President Trump of being like Hitler is the worst thing I ever heard in my 75 years living in the United States,” he goes on, adding that Harris “owes my parents and everybody else who was murdered by Hitler an apology for repeating this lie.”

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:
The only way one can conclude that Trump is NOT a fascist is to neither have any clue what fascism is NOR listen to what Trump says he will do if he regains office.

Nuttiest thing I have ever heard and spoken by a true nutter.

Jeff

quote:

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.[2][3] Opposed to anarchism, democracy, pluralism, egalitarianism, liberalism, socialism, and Marxism,[4][5] fascism is placed on the far right-wing within the traditional left–right spectrum

...

Fascism's extreme authoritarianism and nationalism often manifest as a belief in racial purity or a master race, usually blended with some variant of racism or discrimination against a demonized "Other", such as Jews, homosexuals, transgender people, ethnic minorities, or immigrants.

...

Mussolini perceived women's primary role as primarily child bearers, while that of men as warriors, once saying: "War is to man what maternity is to the woman.


...


The German Nazi government strongly encouraged women to stay at home to bear children and keep house.

...

The Nazis said that homosexuality was degenerate, effeminate, perverted and undermined masculinity because it did not produce children.[285] They considered homosexuality curable through therapy, citing modern scientism and the study of sexology. Open homosexuals were interned in Nazi concentration camps.

...

Fascism's extreme authoritarianism and nationalism often manifest as a belief in racial purity or a master race, usually blended with some variant of racism or discrimination against a demonized "Other", such as Jews, homosexuals, transgender people, ethnic minorities, or immigrants. These ideas have motivated fascist regimes to commit massacres, forced sterilizations, deportations, and genocides.

Link

Jeff,
We have already recognized you as a class A number 1 nutter. No need to work overtime being an over achiever.

Anybody who can read written English can see MAGA directly reflected in those excepts. It's fascism.

Is nutter not a high enough mark for you now? Are you questing for a straight-jacket?

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian ideology characterized by strong nationalism, dictatorial power, suppression of dissent, and often an emphasis on racial or cultural supremacy. Here are some signs or tendencies that might align with fascist beliefs:

1.Extreme Nationalism: Fascists prioritize a hyper-nationalist ideology, often idolizing their nation and promoting an “us versus them” mentality. They believe their country and culture are superior and often reject internationalism or multiculturalism.

Check

2.Authoritarianism: Fascists believe in strong, centralized authority, usually led by a single powerful leader. They often support the curtailing of democratic institutions and civil liberties, arguing that society functions better under strict control.

"Only I can fix it."

3.Disregard for Democratic Norms: Fascists may have little respect for democratic processes, often undermining electoral integrity, attacking the judiciary, or advocating for power to be concentrated in a single leader or small group.

January 6th, attacking every Judge he comes before except Cannon...

4.Suppression of Dissent: Fascists frequently reject freedom of speech and political pluralism, advocating for the suppression of any opposing viewpoints. Censorship, intimidation, and imprisonment of critics are common in fascist regimes.

Using the military against political opponents seems to fit...

5.Glorification of Military and Violence: Fascism often glorifies military strength, discipline, and action as the foundation of society. Fascists may believe violence or militarism is justified to achieve political goals, preserve “order,” or suppress perceived enemies.

The weakest point, since Trump was too weak to serve, so the Proud Boys and their ilk have to fill in.

6.Scapegoating and Persecution: Fascists frequently blame specific groups (ethnic, religious, political) for society’s problems. This leads to policies targeting these groups, promoting discrimination, exclusion, or even violence as a means of “purifying” or “protecting” the nation.

Gays, immigrants...

7.Anti-Intellectualism and Control of Information: Fascists often view intellectualism, higher education, and independent media as threats to their ideology. They may dismiss or discredit science, literature, and press that question their worldview, labeling them as corrupt or deceitful.

FAKE NEWS!

8.Obsession with Traditional Values: Fascist movements often promote a return to traditional values, particularly around family, gender roles, and religion, while decrying social progress or cultural change as morally degrading.

Bibles in schools, women should be forced to carry every pregnancy to term so a rapist has the right to choose who he breeds with...

9.Economic Control with Corporatist Elements: Fascists typically support a form of state-regulated capitalism where businesses align with government goals. They discourage worker movements and unions that conflict with state priorities.

Elon Musk, Leonard Leo...

10.Charismatic Leadership and Cult of Personality: Fascist regimes often center around a charismatic leader who is seen as embodying the will and power of the people. This leader is often above criticism and revered as a symbol of national strength.

That sure seems to describe the way some Republicans talk about somebody, I can't quite recall who it is...

EVERY SINGLE POINT, Dear Goat Doctor.

You are a proud member of a fascist movement.

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by Jefffive:
The only way one can conclude that Trump is NOT a fascist is to neither have any clue what fascism is NOR listen to what Trump says he will do if he regains office.

Nuttiest thing I have ever heard and spoken by a true nutter.

Jeff

quote:

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.[2][3] Opposed to anarchism, democracy, pluralism, egalitarianism, liberalism, socialism, and Marxism,[4][5] fascism is placed on the far right-wing within the traditional left–right spectrum

...

Fascism's extreme authoritarianism and nationalism often manifest as a belief in racial purity or a master race, usually blended with some variant of racism or discrimination against a demonized "Other", such as Jews, homosexuals, transgender people, ethnic minorities, or immigrants.

...

Mussolini perceived women's primary role as primarily child bearers, while that of men as warriors, once saying: "War is to man what maternity is to the woman.


...


The German Nazi government strongly encouraged women to stay at home to bear children and keep house.

...

The Nazis said that homosexuality was degenerate, effeminate, perverted and undermined masculinity because it did not produce children.[285] They considered homosexuality curable through therapy, citing modern scientism and the study of sexology. Open homosexuals were interned in Nazi concentration camps.

...

Fascism's extreme authoritarianism and nationalism often manifest as a belief in racial purity or a master race, usually blended with some variant of racism or discrimination against a demonized "Other", such as Jews, homosexuals, transgender people, ethnic minorities, or immigrants. These ideas have motivated fascist regimes to commit massacres, forced sterilizations, deportations, and genocides.

Link

Jeff,
We have already recognized you as a class A number 1 nutter. No need to work overtime being an over achiever.

Anybody who can read written English can see MAGA directly reflected in those excepts. It's fascism.

Is nutter not a high enough mark for you now? Are you questing for a straight-jacket?

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian ideology characterized by strong nationalism, dictatorial power, suppression of dissent, and often an emphasis on racial or cultural supremacy. Here are some signs or tendencies that might align with fascist beliefs:

1.Extreme Nationalism: Fascists prioritize a hyper-nationalist ideology, often idolizing their nation and promoting an “us versus them” mentality. They believe their country and culture are superior and often reject internationalism or multiculturalism.

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2.Authoritarianism: Fascists believe in strong, centralized authority, usually led by a single powerful leader. They often support the curtailing of democratic institutions and civil liberties, arguing that society functions better under strict control.

"Only I can fix it."

3.Disregard for Democratic Norms: Fascists may have little respect for democratic processes, often undermining electoral integrity, attacking the judiciary, or advocating for power to be concentrated in a single leader or small group.

January 6th, attacking every Judge he comes before except Cannon...

4.Suppression of Dissent: Fascists frequently reject freedom of speech and political pluralism, advocating for the suppression of any opposing viewpoints. Censorship, intimidation, and imprisonment of critics are common in fascist regimes.

Using the military against political opponents seems to fit...

5.Glorification of Military and Violence: Fascism often glorifies military strength, discipline, and action as the foundation of society. Fascists may believe violence or militarism is justified to achieve political goals, preserve “order,” or suppress perceived enemies.

The weakest point, since Trump was too weak to serve, so the Proud Boys and their ilk have to fill in.

6.Scapegoating and Persecution: Fascists frequently blame specific groups (ethnic, religious, political) for society’s problems. This leads to policies targeting these groups, promoting discrimination, exclusion, or even violence as a means of “purifying” or “protecting” the nation.

Gays, immigrants...

7.Anti-Intellectualism and Control of Information: Fascists often view intellectualism, higher education, and independent media as threats to their ideology. They may dismiss or discredit science, literature, and press that question their worldview, labeling them as corrupt or deceitful.

FAKE NEWS!

8.Obsession with Traditional Values: Fascist movements often promote a return to traditional values, particularly around family, gender roles, and religion, while decrying social progress or cultural change as morally degrading.

Bibles in schools, women should be forced to carry every pregnancy to term so a rapist has the right to choose who he breeds with...

9.Economic Control with Corporatist Elements: Fascists typically support a form of state-regulated capitalism where businesses align with government goals. They discourage worker movements and unions that conflict with state priorities.

Elon Musk, Leonard Leo...

10.Charismatic Leadership and Cult of Personality: Fascist regimes often center around a charismatic leader who is seen as embodying the will and power of the people. This leader is often above criticism and revered as a symbol of national strength.

That sure seems to describe the way some Republicans talk about somebody, I can't quite recall who it is...

EVERY SINGLE POINT, Dear Goat Doctor.

You are a proud member of a fascist movement.

Now you’re are reduced to ad hominem attacks.

Only nuts run around spewing the term fascist. Face it you are the face of the definition.

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The only way one can conclude that Trump is NOT a fascist is to neither have any clue what fascism is NOR listen to what Trump says he will do if he regains office.

Nuttiest thing I have ever heard and spoken by a true nutter.

Jeff

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Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.[2][3] Opposed to anarchism, democracy, pluralism, egalitarianism, liberalism, socialism, and Marxism,[4][5] fascism is placed on the far right-wing within the traditional left–right spectrum

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Fascism's extreme authoritarianism and nationalism often manifest as a belief in racial purity or a master race, usually blended with some variant of racism or discrimination against a demonized "Other", such as Jews, homosexuals, transgender people, ethnic minorities, or immigrants.

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Mussolini perceived women's primary role as primarily child bearers, while that of men as warriors, once saying: "War is to man what maternity is to the woman.


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The German Nazi government strongly encouraged women to stay at home to bear children and keep house.

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The Nazis said that homosexuality was degenerate, effeminate, perverted and undermined masculinity because it did not produce children.[285] They considered homosexuality curable through therapy, citing modern scientism and the study of sexology. Open homosexuals were interned in Nazi concentration camps.

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Fascism's extreme authoritarianism and nationalism often manifest as a belief in racial purity or a master race, usually blended with some variant of racism or discrimination against a demonized "Other", such as Jews, homosexuals, transgender people, ethnic minorities, or immigrants. These ideas have motivated fascist regimes to commit massacres, forced sterilizations, deportations, and genocides.

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Jeff,
We have already recognized you as a class A number 1 nutter. No need to work overtime being an over achiever.

Anybody who can read written English can see MAGA directly reflected in those excepts. It's fascism.

Is nutter not a high enough mark for you now? Are you questing for a straight-jacket?

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian ideology characterized by strong nationalism, dictatorial power, suppression of dissent, and often an emphasis on racial or cultural supremacy. Here are some signs or tendencies that might align with fascist beliefs:

1.Extreme Nationalism: Fascists prioritize a hyper-nationalist ideology, often idolizing their nation and promoting an “us versus them” mentality. They believe their country and culture are superior and often reject internationalism or multiculturalism.

Check

2.Authoritarianism: Fascists believe in strong, centralized authority, usually led by a single powerful leader. They often support the curtailing of democratic institutions and civil liberties, arguing that society functions better under strict control.

"Only I can fix it."

3.Disregard for Democratic Norms: Fascists may have little respect for democratic processes, often undermining electoral integrity, attacking the judiciary, or advocating for power to be concentrated in a single leader or small group.

January 6th, attacking every Judge he comes before except Cannon...

4.Suppression of Dissent: Fascists frequently reject freedom of speech and political pluralism, advocating for the suppression of any opposing viewpoints. Censorship, intimidation, and imprisonment of critics are common in fascist regimes.

Using the military against political opponents seems to fit...

5.Glorification of Military and Violence: Fascism often glorifies military strength, discipline, and action as the foundation of society. Fascists may believe violence or militarism is justified to achieve political goals, preserve “order,” or suppress perceived enemies.

The weakest point, since Trump was too weak to serve, so the Proud Boys and their ilk have to fill in.

6.Scapegoating and Persecution: Fascists frequently blame specific groups (ethnic, religious, political) for society’s problems. This leads to policies targeting these groups, promoting discrimination, exclusion, or even violence as a means of “purifying” or “protecting” the nation.

Gays, immigrants...

7.Anti-Intellectualism and Control of Information: Fascists often view intellectualism, higher education, and independent media as threats to their ideology. They may dismiss or discredit science, literature, and press that question their worldview, labeling them as corrupt or deceitful.

FAKE NEWS!

8.Obsession with Traditional Values: Fascist movements often promote a return to traditional values, particularly around family, gender roles, and religion, while decrying social progress or cultural change as morally degrading.

Bibles in schools, women should be forced to carry every pregnancy to term so a rapist has the right to choose who he breeds with...

9.Economic Control with Corporatist Elements: Fascists typically support a form of state-regulated capitalism where businesses align with government goals. They discourage worker movements and unions that conflict with state priorities.

Elon Musk, Leonard Leo...

10.Charismatic Leadership and Cult of Personality: Fascist regimes often center around a charismatic leader who is seen as embodying the will and power of the people. This leader is often above criticism and revered as a symbol of national strength.

That sure seems to describe the way some Republicans talk about somebody, I can't quite recall who it is...

EVERY SINGLE POINT, Dear Goat Doctor.

You are a proud member of a fascist movement.

Now you’re are reduced to ad hominem attacks.

Only nuts run around spewing the term fascist. Face it you are the face of the definition.

In one way it's a shame that so few of the "Greatest Generation" are left to explain to you that you now support exactly what they went to Europe and the Pacific to defeat, but in another it's good that they lived out their years without having to see it gain traction here.

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The only way one can conclude that Trump is NOT a fascist is to neither have any clue what fascism is NOR listen to what Trump says he will do if he regains office.

Nuttiest thing I have ever heard and spoken by a true nutter.

Jeff

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Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.[2][3] Opposed to anarchism, democracy, pluralism, egalitarianism, liberalism, socialism, and Marxism,[4][5] fascism is placed on the far right-wing within the traditional left–right spectrum

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Fascism's extreme authoritarianism and nationalism often manifest as a belief in racial purity or a master race, usually blended with some variant of racism or discrimination against a demonized "Other", such as Jews, homosexuals, transgender people, ethnic minorities, or immigrants.

...

Mussolini perceived women's primary role as primarily child bearers, while that of men as warriors, once saying: "War is to man what maternity is to the woman.


...


The German Nazi government strongly encouraged women to stay at home to bear children and keep house.

...

The Nazis said that homosexuality was degenerate, effeminate, perverted and undermined masculinity because it did not produce children.[285] They considered homosexuality curable through therapy, citing modern scientism and the study of sexology. Open homosexuals were interned in Nazi concentration camps.

...

Fascism's extreme authoritarianism and nationalism often manifest as a belief in racial purity or a master race, usually blended with some variant of racism or discrimination against a demonized "Other", such as Jews, homosexuals, transgender people, ethnic minorities, or immigrants. These ideas have motivated fascist regimes to commit massacres, forced sterilizations, deportations, and genocides.

Link

Jeff,
We have already recognized you as a class A number 1 nutter. No need to work overtime being an over achiever.

Anybody who can read written English can see MAGA directly reflected in those excepts. It's fascism.

Is nutter not a high enough mark for you now? Are you questing for a straight-jacket?

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian ideology characterized by strong nationalism, dictatorial power, suppression of dissent, and often an emphasis on racial or cultural supremacy. Here are some signs or tendencies that might align with fascist beliefs:

1.Extreme Nationalism: Fascists prioritize a hyper-nationalist ideology, often idolizing their nation and promoting an “us versus them” mentality. They believe their country and culture are superior and often reject internationalism or multiculturalism.

Check

2.Authoritarianism: Fascists believe in strong, centralized authority, usually led by a single powerful leader. They often support the curtailing of democratic institutions and civil liberties, arguing that society functions better under strict control.

"Only I can fix it."

3.Disregard for Democratic Norms: Fascists may have little respect for democratic processes, often undermining electoral integrity, attacking the judiciary, or advocating for power to be concentrated in a single leader or small group.

January 6th, attacking every Judge he comes before except Cannon...

4.Suppression of Dissent: Fascists frequently reject freedom of speech and political pluralism, advocating for the suppression of any opposing viewpoints. Censorship, intimidation, and imprisonment of critics are common in fascist regimes.

Using the military against political opponents seems to fit...

5.Glorification of Military and Violence: Fascism often glorifies military strength, discipline, and action as the foundation of society. Fascists may believe violence or militarism is justified to achieve political goals, preserve “order,” or suppress perceived enemies.

The weakest point, since Trump was too weak to serve, so the Proud Boys and their ilk have to fill in.

6.Scapegoating and Persecution: Fascists frequently blame specific groups (ethnic, religious, political) for society’s problems. This leads to policies targeting these groups, promoting discrimination, exclusion, or even violence as a means of “purifying” or “protecting” the nation.

Gays, immigrants...

7.Anti-Intellectualism and Control of Information: Fascists often view intellectualism, higher education, and independent media as threats to their ideology. They may dismiss or discredit science, literature, and press that question their worldview, labeling them as corrupt or deceitful.

FAKE NEWS!

8.Obsession with Traditional Values: Fascist movements often promote a return to traditional values, particularly around family, gender roles, and religion, while decrying social progress or cultural change as morally degrading.

Bibles in schools, women should be forced to carry every pregnancy to term so a rapist has the right to choose who he breeds with...

9.Economic Control with Corporatist Elements: Fascists typically support a form of state-regulated capitalism where businesses align with government goals. They discourage worker movements and unions that conflict with state priorities.

Elon Musk, Leonard Leo...

10.Charismatic Leadership and Cult of Personality: Fascist regimes often center around a charismatic leader who is seen as embodying the will and power of the people. This leader is often above criticism and revered as a symbol of national strength.

That sure seems to describe the way some Republicans talk about somebody, I can't quite recall who it is...

EVERY SINGLE POINT, Dear Goat Doctor.

You are a proud member of a fascist movement.

Now you’re are reduced to ad hominem attacks.

Only nuts run around spewing the term fascist. Face it you are the face of the definition.

In one way it's a shame that so few of the "Greatest Generation" are left to explain to you that you now support exactly what they went to Europe and the Pacific to defeat, but in another it's good that they lived out their years without having to see it gain traction here.

I know one well. Visit him weekly. Carried him to vote the other day. Came out and put his “I voted early” sticker on his Make America Great Again red cap.

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Originally posted by Jefffive:
The only way one can conclude that Trump is NOT a fascist is to neither have any clue what fascism is NOR listen to what Trump says he will do if he regains office.

Nuttiest thing I have ever heard and spoken by a true nutter.

Jeff

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Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.[2][3] Opposed to anarchism, democracy, pluralism, egalitarianism, liberalism, socialism, and Marxism,[4][5] fascism is placed on the far right-wing within the traditional left–right spectrum

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Fascism's extreme authoritarianism and nationalism often manifest as a belief in racial purity or a master race, usually blended with some variant of racism or discrimination against a demonized "Other", such as Jews, homosexuals, transgender people, ethnic minorities, or immigrants.

...

Mussolini perceived women's primary role as primarily child bearers, while that of men as warriors, once saying: "War is to man what maternity is to the woman.


...


The German Nazi government strongly encouraged women to stay at home to bear children and keep house.

...

The Nazis said that homosexuality was degenerate, effeminate, perverted and undermined masculinity because it did not produce children.[285] They considered homosexuality curable through therapy, citing modern scientism and the study of sexology. Open homosexuals were interned in Nazi concentration camps.

...

Fascism's extreme authoritarianism and nationalism often manifest as a belief in racial purity or a master race, usually blended with some variant of racism or discrimination against a demonized "Other", such as Jews, homosexuals, transgender people, ethnic minorities, or immigrants. These ideas have motivated fascist regimes to commit massacres, forced sterilizations, deportations, and genocides.

Link

Jeff,
We have already recognized you as a class A number 1 nutter. No need to work overtime being an over achiever.

Anybody who can read written English can see MAGA directly reflected in those excepts. It's fascism.

Is nutter not a high enough mark for you now? Are you questing for a straight-jacket?

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian ideology characterized by strong nationalism, dictatorial power, suppression of dissent, and often an emphasis on racial or cultural supremacy. Here are some signs or tendencies that might align with fascist beliefs:

1.Extreme Nationalism: Fascists prioritize a hyper-nationalist ideology, often idolizing their nation and promoting an “us versus them” mentality. They believe their country and culture are superior and often reject internationalism or multiculturalism.

Check

2.Authoritarianism: Fascists believe in strong, centralized authority, usually led by a single powerful leader. They often support the curtailing of democratic institutions and civil liberties, arguing that society functions better under strict control.

"Only I can fix it."

3.Disregard for Democratic Norms: Fascists may have little respect for democratic processes, often undermining electoral integrity, attacking the judiciary, or advocating for power to be concentrated in a single leader or small group.

January 6th, attacking every Judge he comes before except Cannon...

4.Suppression of Dissent: Fascists frequently reject freedom of speech and political pluralism, advocating for the suppression of any opposing viewpoints. Censorship, intimidation, and imprisonment of critics are common in fascist regimes.

Using the military against political opponents seems to fit...

5.Glorification of Military and Violence: Fascism often glorifies military strength, discipline, and action as the foundation of society. Fascists may believe violence or militarism is justified to achieve political goals, preserve “order,” or suppress perceived enemies.

The weakest point, since Trump was too weak to serve, so the Proud Boys and their ilk have to fill in.

6.Scapegoating and Persecution: Fascists frequently blame specific groups (ethnic, religious, political) for society’s problems. This leads to policies targeting these groups, promoting discrimination, exclusion, or even violence as a means of “purifying” or “protecting” the nation.

Gays, immigrants...

7.Anti-Intellectualism and Control of Information: Fascists often view intellectualism, higher education, and independent media as threats to their ideology. They may dismiss or discredit science, literature, and press that question their worldview, labeling them as corrupt or deceitful.

FAKE NEWS!

8.Obsession with Traditional Values: Fascist movements often promote a return to traditional values, particularly around family, gender roles, and religion, while decrying social progress or cultural change as morally degrading.

Bibles in schools, women should be forced to carry every pregnancy to term so a rapist has the right to choose who he breeds with...

9.Economic Control with Corporatist Elements: Fascists typically support a form of state-regulated capitalism where businesses align with government goals. They discourage worker movements and unions that conflict with state priorities.

Elon Musk, Leonard Leo...

10.Charismatic Leadership and Cult of Personality: Fascist regimes often center around a charismatic leader who is seen as embodying the will and power of the people. This leader is often above criticism and revered as a symbol of national strength.

That sure seems to describe the way some Republicans talk about somebody, I can't quite recall who it is...

EVERY SINGLE POINT, Dear Goat Doctor.

You are a proud member of a fascist movement.

Now you’re are reduced to ad hominem attacks.

Only nuts run around spewing the term fascist. Face it you are the face of the definition.

In one way it's a shame that so few of the "Greatest Generation" are left to explain to you that you now support exactly what they went to Europe and the Pacific to defeat, but in another it's good that they lived out their years without having to see it gain traction here.

I know one well. Visit him weekly. Carried him to vote the other day. Came out and put his “I voted early” sticker on his Make America Great Again red cap.

Lane, you have pissed away any credibility to the point that you saying something happened is nearly prima facia evidence it did not.

There is no greater, some as great, than a defeated president directing his VP under an unconstitutional theory to not certify the EC, PERMIT violence upon our constitutional system, and call for the suspension of the Constitution to stay on power.

Dr. Easter cannot deny Trump did those actions.

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There is no greater, some as great, than a defeated president directing his CO under an unconstitutional theory to not certify the EC, PERMIT violence upon our constitutional system, and call for the suspension of the Constitution to stay on power.

Dr. Easter cannot deny Trump did those actions.

He just pretends they didn't happen.