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Originally posted by skb:
A job better left to the child's parent.

You are not nearly as qualified to dictate to others as you feel you are.

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Noted.

So I will give you my opinion. People like you are just as much a part of the downfall of the USA as the progressive left. You resemble nothing of the fabric of the men who founded this country and share little (if any) of their philosophy or values.

But feel free to carry on your stalking here on AR. When you do…I will happily point out how wrong you are.

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Busy bodies inserting themselves into other peoples lives is something I have no tolerance for.

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Noted.

So I will give you my opinion. People like you are just as much a part of the downfall of the USA as the progressive left. You resemble nothing of the fabric of the men who founded this country and share little (if any) of their philosophy or values.

But feel free to carry on your stalking here on AR. When you do…I will happily point out how wrong you are.

The USA is doing just fine, we would be far better off if the Luddites of the world would quit trying to drag us back into the 1950's.

Interesting that you characterize someone refuting your myopic view points as stalking. Don't worry, I will continue to push back against the nonsense that you post.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Noted.

So I will give you my opinion. People like you are just as much a part of the downfall of the USA as the progressive left. You resemble nothing of the fabric of the men who founded this country and share little (if any) of their philosophy or values.

But feel free to carry on your stalking here on AR. When you do…I will happily point out how wrong you are.

The USA is doing just fine, we would be far better off if the Luddites of the world would quit trying to drag us back into the 1950's.

Interesting that you characterize someone refuting your myopic view points as stalking. Don't worry, I will continue to push back against the nonsense that you post.

Again, anyone willing to state that the USA is doing just fine…is part of the problem. And, you are NOTHING like the men who founded the country. You likely would have been a British sympathizer in 1776. But hey carry on…it is still a free country and I will continue to point out how wrong you are. At least…I was the one who tried to reach out with common ground.

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Noted.

So I will give you my opinion. People like you are just as much a part of the downfall of the USA as the progressive left. You resemble nothing of the fabric of the men who founded this country and share little (if any) of their philosophy or values.

But feel free to carry on your stalking here on AR. When you do…I will happily point out how wrong you are.

The USA is doing just fine, we would be far better off if the Luddites of the world would quit trying to drag us back into the 1950's.

Interesting that you characterize someone refuting your myopic view points as stalking. Don't worry, I will continue to push back against the nonsense that you post.

Again, anyone willing to state that the USA is doing just fine…is part of the problem. And, you are NOTHING like the men who founded the country. You likely would have been a British sympathizer in 1776. But hey carry on…it is still a free country and I will continue to point out how wrong you are. At least…I was the one who tried to reach out with common ground.

We have common ground, both of us believe your views have validity inside your home. Where we differ is that I feel your views should have little to no bearing on others.

Where you absent the day the teachers went over the story of the three boats full of pilgrims heading to a new country to avoid having someone else's religion foisted upon them? I think my views are quite in line with those of our founding fathers', I do not want your religion brought to me by our Government.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Noted.

So I will give you my opinion. People like you are just as much a part of the downfall of the USA as the progressive left. You resemble nothing of the fabric of the men who founded this country and share little (if any) of their philosophy or values.

But feel free to carry on your stalking here on AR. When you do…I will happily point out how wrong you are.

The USA is doing just fine, we would be far better off if the Luddites of the world would quit trying to drag us back into the 1950's.

Interesting that you characterize someone refuting your myopic view points as stalking. Don't worry, I will continue to push back against the nonsense that you post.

Again, anyone willing to state that the USA is doing just fine…is part of the problem. And, you are NOTHING like the men who founded the country. You likely would have been a British sympathizer in 1776. But hey carry on…it is still a free country and I will continue to point out how wrong you are. At least…I was the one who tried to reach out with common ground.

We have common ground, both of us believe your views have validity inside your home. Where we differ is that I feel your views should have little to no bearing on others.

Where you absent the day the teachers went over the story of the three boats full of pilgrims heading to a new country to avoid having someone else's religion foisted upon them? I think my views are quite in line with those of our founding fathers', I do not want your religion brought to me by our Government.

The pilgrims were not the Founders.

The Founders were Christian and believed men had rights ordained by God. They were willing to sacrifice all to sustain those rights and founded a country governed by law based in Judeo-Christian principles. These men were idealists. And “one” of their ideals was tolerance.

Tolerance- the ability or willingness to tolerate something, in particular the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with.

Tolerate- allow the existence, occurrence, or practice of (something that one does not necessarily like or agree with) without interference.

Tolerating something is one thing. I live by the principle of tolerance and expect it back. But, the thing about tolerance is that it must be like a phone line and ring both ways.

The Founders are rolling in their graves today. They never intended a federal government so bloated and wasteful. They never intended a government to abandon the Judeo-Christian principles in which it was founded. They never intended “tolerance” to be morphed into a mandate of acceptance.

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Originally posted by jdollar:
How the hell did we get from a dead mercenary war criminal to abortion rights??

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Noted.

So I will give you my opinion. People like you are just as much a part of the downfall of the USA as the progressive left. You resemble nothing of the fabric of the men who founded this country and share little (if any) of their philosophy or values.

But feel free to carry on your stalking here on AR. When you do…I will happily point out how wrong you are.

The USA is doing just fine, we would be far better off if the Luddites of the world would quit trying to drag us back into the 1950's.

Interesting that you characterize someone refuting your myopic view points as stalking. Don't worry, I will continue to push back against the nonsense that you post.

Again, anyone willing to state that the USA is doing just fine…is part of the problem. And, you are NOTHING like the men who founded the country. You likely would have been a British sympathizer in 1776. But hey carry on…it is still a free country and I will continue to point out how wrong you are. At least…I was the one who tried to reach out with common ground.

We have common ground, both of us believe your views have validity inside your home. Where we differ is that I feel your views should have little to no bearing on others.

Where you absent the day the teachers went over the story of the three boats full of pilgrims heading to a new country to avoid having someone else's religion foisted upon them? I think my views are quite in line with those of our founding fathers', I do not want your religion brought to me by our Government.

The pilgrims were not the Founders.

The Founders were Christian and believed men had rights ordained by God. They were willing to sacrifice all to sustain those rights and founded a country governed by law based in Judeo-Christian principles. These men were idealists. And “one” of their ideals was tolerance.

Tolerance- the ability or willingness to tolerate something, in particular the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with.

Tolerate- allow the existence, occurrence, or practice of (something that one does not necessarily like or agree with) without interference.

Tolerating something is one thing. I live by the principle of tolerance and expect it back. But, the thing about tolerance is that it must be like a phone line and ring both ways.

The Founders are rolling in their graves today. They never intended a federal government so bloated and wasteful. They never intended a government to abandon the Judeo-Christian principles in which it was founded. They never intended “tolerance” to be morphed into a mandate of acceptance.

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Noted.

So I will give you my opinion. People like you are just as much a part of the downfall of the USA as the progressive left. You resemble nothing of the fabric of the men who founded this country and share little (if any) of their philosophy or values.

But feel free to carry on your stalking here on AR. When you do…I will happily point out how wrong you are.

The USA is doing just fine, we would be far better off if the Luddites of the world would quit trying to drag us back into the 1950's.

Interesting that you characterize someone refuting your myopic view points as stalking. Don't worry, I will continue to push back against the nonsense that you post.

Again, anyone willing to state that the USA is doing just fine…is part of the problem. And, you are NOTHING like the men who founded the country. You likely would have been a British sympathizer in 1776. But hey carry on…it is still a free country and I will continue to point out how wrong you are. At least…I was the one who tried to reach out with common ground.

We have common ground, both of us believe your views have validity inside your home. Where we differ is that I feel your views should have little to no bearing on others.

Where you absent the day the teachers went over the story of the three boats full of pilgrims heading to a new country to avoid having someone else's religion foisted upon them? I think my views are quite in line with those of our founding fathers', I do not want your religion brought to me by our Government.

The pilgrims were not the Founders.

The Founders were Christian and believed men had rights ordained by God. They were willing to sacrifice all to sustain those rights and founded a country governed by law based in Judeo-Christian principles. These men were idealists. And “one” of their ideals was tolerance.

Tolerance- the ability or willingness to tolerate something, in particular the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with.

Tolerate- allow the existence, occurrence, or practice of (something that one does not necessarily like or agree with) without interference.

Tolerating something is one thing. I live by the principle of tolerance and expect it back. But, the thing about tolerance is that it must be like a phone line and ring both ways.

The Founders are rolling in their graves today. They never intended a federal government so bloated and wasteful. They never intended a government to abandon the Judeo-Christian principles in which it was founded. They never intended “tolerance” to be morphed into a mandate of acceptance.

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Rubbish.

You want to control others and push your religious views on them.

Nothing in your views shows tolerance of others.

YOU are NOTHING like our founders, nor is their anything tolerant about you.

You are a closed minded bigot.

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Originally posted by skb:
So do you not stand behind the bigoted statements you have made on this board repeatedly?

Show me a bigoted statement.

You have told us over and over again how you want the Government to promote your religious views,

No. I want them not trampled on in my community.

your feelings toward homosexuals, etc.

Exactly what are those feelings?

What I know of you is what you have stated.

No sir…it is what infer and your skills of deduction are poor.

It is clear what you are. A closed minded bigot.

“ ”

Our founders are rolling in their graves because people like you have no respect for others rights.

At least you know agree they would not be happy with the country today. This…a good first step for you. But, as a student of their writings…I submit my beliefs and politics are much closer to theirs than yours.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
Some of you don't get it. It's not that you yourself would do violence against gays. No one has accused anyone here of such a thing.

By condoning hate speech, and participating in it yourself with terms like "abomination," you influence your children, and others who may be weak-minded or disturbed to commit violence.

And if you use words like "abomination" to paint other human beings, you really should consider whether your're doing your children any favors.

To be 100% clear…I chose that word as it fits perfectly.

I am not responsible for what some nut does.

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
Some of you don't get it. It's not that you yourself would do violence against gays. No one has accused anyone here of such a thing.

By condoning hate speech, and participating in it yourself with terms like "abomination," you influence your children, and others who may be weak-minded or disturbed to commit violence.

And if you use words like "abomination" to paint other human beings, you really should consider whether your're doing your children any favors.

To be 100% clear…I chose that word as it fits perfectly.

I am not responsible for what some nut does.

Here we have the good horse Doctor telling us gays are an abomination. Hard to be more bigoted than that.


So by your train of thought...disliking or disagreeing with something is being bigoted?

No, you want your religious views promoted by the State...

No...I want the Feds to tolerate religion in the State and local levels. I want the voters at the state and local level to decide if religion is openly expressed at that level.

My deduction skills are spot on, see your words above.

Wrong again. Disliking/disagreeing with something is not a bigoted action.

The thing that needs to change in our country is that closed minded bigots such as yourself need to stop trying to drag the rest of us back into the 1950's.

While I nor like minded people are acting in a bigoted way...close to 50% of the population share my views. Greater than 50% at my states level and the vast majority at my local level.

People filled with hatred such as yourself are the abomination, not someone who happens to be attracted to people of the same sex.

I have no "hatred" for anyone.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Noted.

So I will give you my opinion. People like you are just as much a part of the downfall of the USA as the progressive left. You resemble nothing of the fabric of the men who founded this country and share little (if any) of their philosophy or values.

But feel free to carry on your stalking here on AR. When you do…I will happily point out how wrong you are.

The USA is doing just fine, we would be far better off if the Luddites of the world would quit trying to drag us back into the 1950's.

Interesting that you characterize someone refuting your myopic view points as stalking. Don't worry, I will continue to push back against the nonsense that you post.

Again, anyone willing to state that the USA is doing just fine…is part of the problem. And, you are NOTHING like the men who founded the country. You likely would have been a British sympathizer in 1776. But hey carry on…it is still a free country and I will continue to point out how wrong you are. At least…I was the one who tried to reach out with common ground.

We have common ground, both of us believe your views have validity inside your home. Where we differ is that I feel your views should have little to no bearing on others.

Where you absent the day the teachers went over the story of the three boats full of pilgrims heading to a new country to avoid having someone else's religion foisted upon them? I think my views are quite in line with those of our founding fathers', I do not want your religion brought to me by our Government.

The pilgrims were not the Founders.

The Founders were Christian and believed men had rights ordained by God. They were willing to sacrifice all to sustain those rights and founded a country governed by law based in Judeo-Christian principles. These men were idealists. And “one” of their ideals was tolerance.

Tolerance- the ability or willingness to tolerate something, in particular the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with.

Tolerate- allow the existence, occurrence, or practice of (something that one does not necessarily like or agree with) without interference.

Tolerating something is one thing. I live by the principle of tolerance and expect it back. But, the thing about tolerance is that it must be like a phone line and ring both ways.

The Founders are rolling in their graves today. They never intended a federal government so bloated and wasteful. They never intended a government to abandon the Judeo-Christian principles in which it was founded. They never intended “tolerance” to be morphed into a mandate of acceptance.

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You may not be legally responsible. You are morally. Abomination is hate speech.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Not Progressive to identity yiu on your own words.

You preach hate others pick up a gun and act in it.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Not Progressive to identity yiu on your own words.

You preach hate others pick up a gun and act in it.

No hate here. You are the only one using that word.

Your opinion amounts to just that...your opinion. That and a $5 bill will buy you a cup of Starbucks coffee.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Not Progressive to identity yiu on your own words.

You preach hate others pick up a gun and act in it.

No hate here. You are the only one using that word.

Your opinion amounts to just that...your opinion. That and a $5 bill will buy you a cup of Starbucks coffee.

Yes it is Abomination is preaching hate.

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The Founders were Christian and believed men had rights ordained by God.

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Originally posted by nute:

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The Founders were Christian and believed men had rights ordained by God.

Just as long as they were white…

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Originally posted by Bivoj:

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Originally posted by nute:

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The Founders were Christian and believed men had rights ordained by God.

Just as long as they were white…

You sound like that Indian guy in Ghost and the darkness movie…

Anyway, Wagner group more then likely has already new guys on top and continue operations
Everyone is replaceable

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Originally posted by ledvm:


Here we have the good horse Doctor telling us gays are an abomination. Hard to be more bigoted than that.


So by your train of thought...disliking or disagreeing with something is being bigoted? The Oxford Dictionary Abomination: A feeling or state of mind of disgust and hatred; detestation, loathing, abhorrence.

No, you want your religious views promoted by the State...

No...I want the Feds to tolerate religion in the State and local levels. I want the voters at the state and local level to decide if religion is openly expressed at that level. The State and Local Governments have no business being in the religion game. I do not want to go back in time or live in a Theocracy. The Feds are correct in keeping locals like yourself from imposing your religious views on the rest of us.

My deduction skills are spot on, see your words above.

Wrong again. Disliking/disagreeing with something is not a bigoted action. See the Oxford definition above.

The thing that needs to change in our country is that closed minded bigots such as yourself need to stop trying to drag the rest of us back into the 1950's.

While I nor like minded people are acting in a bigoted way...close to 50% of the population share my views. Greater than 50% at my states level and the vast majority at my local level. Your math is off, about 25% of voters appear to be Trumptards.

People filled with hatred such as yourself are the abomination, not someone who happens to be attracted to people of the same sex.

I have no "hatred" for anyone.

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An abomination (in the context of my use) is, in general, an offense against the religious senses of a people.

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Originally posted by skb:

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Originally posted by ledvm:


Here we have the good horse Doctor telling us gays are an abomination. Hard to be more bigoted than that.


So by your train of thought...disliking or disagreeing with something is being bigoted? The Oxford Dictionary Abomination: A feeling or state of mind of disgust and hatred; detestation, loathing, abhorrence.

No, you want your religious views promoted by the State...

No...I want the Feds to tolerate religion in the State and local levels. I want the voters at the state and local level to decide if religion is openly expressed at that level. The State and Local Governments have no business being in the religion game. I do not want to go back in time or live in a Theocracy. The Feds are correct in keeping locals like yourself from imposing your religious views on the rest of us.

My deduction skills are spot on, see your words above.

Wrong again. Disliking/disagreeing with something is not a bigoted action. See the Oxford definition above.

The thing that needs to change in our country is that closed minded bigots such as yourself need to stop trying to drag the rest of us back into the 1950's.

While I nor like minded people are acting in a bigoted way...close to 50% of the population share my views. Greater than 50% at my states level and the vast majority at my local level. Your math is off, about 25% of voters appear to be Trumptards.

People filled with hatred such as yourself are the abomination, not someone who happens to be attracted to people of the same sex.

I have no "hatred" for anyone.