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Trump backing out of '60 Minutes': Not the behavior of someone who wants to win

VP Harris sat down for a lengthy '60 Minutes' interview that aired

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
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Trump backing out of '60 Minutes': Not the behavior of someone who wants to win

VP Harris sat down for a lengthy '60 Minutes' interview that aired

Why would he? No upside to it for him. No downside either for not doing it.

I figured it was because he would be fact checked.

Also, he has a plan to (try to) steal it anyway.

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
I figured it was because he would be fact checked.

Also, he has a plan to (try to) steal it anyway.

Any details about the "plan"?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
I figured it was because he would be fact checked.


Yeah. That's the no upside part.

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Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
I figured it was because he would be fact checked.

Also, he has a plan to (try to) steal it anyway.

Any details about the "plan"?

Falsely claim "fraud", which he's already doing, then try to get some Court to award him the election to throw it to his tame Supreme Court for a repeat of 2000. Failing that, his minions at the State level (like West Virginia Republicans are currently setting in place) will try to prevent the certification of enough votes to deny Harris an Electoral College win, throwing the election to the House where Republicans can ignore the will of the American People and complete the coup by appointing him.

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Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
I figured it was because he would be fact checked.

Also, he has a plan to (try to) steal it anyway.

Any details about the "plan"?

https://www.huffpost.com/entry...5f0de4b0d70dca9f6cb0

How Trump Is Already Setting The Groundwork To Challenge The 2024 Election Results If He Loses
A second "Stop the Steal" features an even more harebrained scenario with an even smaller chance of success than 2020's scheme.
By Paul Blumenthal
Oct 2, 2024, 07:00 AM EDT |Updated Oct 2, 2024

https://www.washingtonpost.com...aim-2020-was-rigged/

Republicans are trying to rig 2024 the way they claim 2020 was rigged
From election rules to the role of social media, the right is embracing things they used to criticize.

"How have Republicans rigged the election?"

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...TGU?ocid=socialshare

Trump backing out of '60 Minutes': Not the behavior of someone who wants to win

VP Harris sat down for a lengthy '60 Minutes' interview that aired

CBS made it plain before the Harris interview aired that Trump was invited but insisted on no fact checking. When CBS refused , he declined the interview. Enough said…

https://youtu.be/kU6MOFCs-w8?si=VgDzxZJeOl1eSzgv

Trump gets UNEXPECTED takedown on national TV

https://youtu.be/KEyfV2muEEI?si=7lRvCYQAAwVHTFez

Trump shows fear: Flees to ‘safe space’ Fox as Harris blitzes Stern, CBS, ‘The View’

https://youtu.be/orSFwyucw9Y?si=3BIAKEiQBrdETKHZ

Kamala EXPOSES Trump’s ACHILLES’ HEEL On Howard Stern Show

https://youtu.be/rr6LIYWuFp8?si=5mdPOyXNG7CSLYqP

During flurry of media appearances, Harris proposes Medicare coverage for in-home care

https://youtu.be/iRe-5uspGQM?si=inhHt2GARmbBt_QC

Michael Moore Makes STUNNING 2024 Election Prediction

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Originally posted by jdollar:

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...TGU?ocid=socialshare

Trump backing out of '60 Minutes': Not the behavior of someone who wants to win

VP Harris sat down for a lengthy '60 Minutes' interview that aired

CBS made it plain before the Harris interview aired that Trump was invited but insisted on no fact checking. When CBS refused , he declined the interview. Enough said…

Right, I saw the show, and the announcer said Trump backed out because the network's reply to his no-fact-check demand was, "We always fact-check our stories."

Trump's brilliant withdrawal left all the air time to Harris and Walz...who both looked good.

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Maybe this is why! Tom Cotton speaks on the disingenuousness of 60 Minutes interview

Or maybe Trump had his ass handed to him last time, by a woman no less, and is too chicken shit to debate Harris again, even on Fox.

https://www.reuters.com/world/...s-debate-2024-10-09/

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...908211c260a1e9&ei=30

Trump shuts the door on another debate after final pitch from networks
Story by Brett Samuels • 13h • 2 min read

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Maybe this is why! Tom Cotton speaks on the disingenuousness of 60 Minutes interview

Some bozo posts on X, and you cite it as the truth.

Now he’s saying all the media networks should lose their licenses because the ‘don’t say nice things about him.’

If Trump wins, Stephen Goebbels Miller will be controlling everything you hear or see in their sole source ‘media’. Good luck with that, Comrades.

No. 60 Minutes is absolutely guilty of editing the Harris interview and by default interfering in the election. There’s no doubt about it now. They can’t be trusted and Trump made the right call.

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Originally posted by tomahawker:
No. 60 Minutes is absolutely guilty of editing the Harris interview and by default interfering in the election. There’s no doubt about it now. They can’t be trusted and Trump made the right call.

How about Fox? Why is the Orange Turd dodging a debate on Fox?

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by tomahawker:
No. 60 Minutes is absolutely guilty of editing the Harris interview and by default interfering in the election. There’s no doubt about it now. They can’t be trusted and Trump made the right call.

How about Fox? Why is the Orange T*rd dodging a debate on Fox?

It's not fox that edited comments such that some people believe trump said the neonazis at Charlotte had "good people on both sides" or that trump said all illegals are murders and rapists. But echo chamber and confirmation bias tricked yall...

Say, doesn't the tolerant left call for shutting fox done, fairly often

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Maybe this is why! Tom Cotton speaks on the disingenuousness of 60 Minutes interview

Some bozo posts on X, and you cite it as the truth.

Yep, a bozo by name of Tom Cotton verified to to be Senator Cotton of Arkansas.

I believe Trump has this one and knows it. No need to do another debate.

He sure doesn't sound like it. Sounds more like he's getting more and more desperate.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Maybe this is why! Tom Cotton speaks on the disingenuousness of 60 Minutes interview

Some bozo posts on X, and you cite it as the truth.

Yep, a bozo by name of Tom Cotton verified to to be Senator Cotton of Arkansas.

That and five bucks will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.

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Originally posted by tomahawker:
No. 60 Minutes is absolutely guilty of editing the Harris interview and by default interfering in the election. There’s no doubt about it now. They can’t be trusted and Trump made the right call.

What meaningful change did they make to the Harris interview?

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by tomahawker:
No. 60 Minutes is absolutely guilty of editing the Harris interview and by default interfering in the election. There’s no doubt about it now. They can’t be trusted and Trump made the right call.

How about Fox? Why is the Orange T*rd dodging a debate on Fox?

It's not fox that edited comments such that some people believe trump said the neonazis at Charlotte had "good people on both sides" or that trump said all illegals are murders and rapists. But echo chamber and confirmation bias tricked yall...

Say, doesn't the tolerant left call for shutting fox done, fairly often

My question remains, why is Trump dodging a debate on Fox? This is in addition to him not doing the interview with 60 minutes.

Please try to keep up with the conversation Jeffe.

Even Fox has some limit on how far they'll try to bend reality.

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Originally posted by ledvm:
I believe Trump has this one and knows it. No need to do another debate. is a coward and afraid of another humiliating performance showing how he has cognitively declined.

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by tomahawker:
No. 60 Minutes is absolutely guilty of editing the Harris interview and by default interfering in the election. There’s no doubt about it now. They can’t be trusted and Trump made the right call.

How about Fox? Why is the Orange T*rd dodging a debate on Fox?

It's not fox that edited comments such that some people believe trump said the neonazis at Charlotte had "good people on both sides" or that trump said all illegals are murders and rapists. But echo chamber and confirmation bias tricked yall...

Say, doesn't the tolerant left call for shutting fox done, fairly often

My question remains, why is Trump dodging a debate on Fox? This is in addition to him not doing the interview with 60 minutes.

Please try to keep up with the conversation Jeffe.

Hey, little stevie - the TOPIC is

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Why did Trump turn down the traditional 60 minute interview?

why did you abandon it? are you taking hypocrite lessons from fifi or just your raw, natural talent?

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My question remains, why is Trump dodging a debate on Fox? This is in addition to him not doing the interview with 60 minutes.

Please try to keep up with the conversation Jeffe.

It's a legit question in the conversation, Jeffe.

Trump complained about fact checking and bias media. We all know that Fox is his most favorable venue.

So, Why?

Princess Jeffe,
my question had to do with the Orange Turd dodging the Fox debate. I still have the same question...why is Trump so afraid of debating Harris again? I believe he is attempting to hide his cognitive decline.

I have raw natural talent, but unlike yourself, that does not include being a hypocrite.

Did you ever switch to sugar free free Kool-Aid?

All my best,
Steve

Trump knows he got his ass kicked by Harris in the debate.

He knows the network will fact-check--even Fox, to some extent.

There's no mystery why he backed out of the interview.

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
Princess Jeffe,
my question had to do with the Orange T*rd dodging the Fox debate. ...
All my best,
Steve

Then start a thread on it, but, Steve, you may have noticed, every time you try to get intellectual, you fail...

This is your opportunity to be an adult and say " ops".. you won't, you'll be juvenile.. it might be your only mode

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Then star [sic] a thread on it, but, Steve, you may have noticed, every time you try to get intellectual, you fail...

Now, that's friggin funny at least, ironic at best.

Bottom line is Trump is afraid to be fact checked on anything by anyone,including a debate moderator or interviewer……Coward by another name is still a coward……

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

quote:

Originally posted by tomahawker:
No. 60 Minutes is absolutely guilty of editing the Harris interview and by default interfering in the election. There’s no doubt about it now. They can’t be trusted and Trump made the right call.

How about Fox? Why is the Orange T*rd dodging a debate on Fox?

It's not fox that edited comments such that some people believe trump said the neonazis at Charlotte had "good people on both sides" or that trump said all illegals are murders and rapists. But echo chamber and confirmation bias tricked yall...

Say, doesn't the tolerant left call for shutting fox done, fairly often

My question remains, why is Trump dodging a debate on Fox? This is in addition to him not doing the interview with 60 minutes.

Please try to keep up with the conversation Jeffe.

Magine is correct as everyone knows. He is dodging all interactions with the press that might result in being fact-checked on his non-stop lies.

Interesting article in the WaPo about it today:

>>>>Trump wages campaign against real-time fact checks
The moves are the latest example of Trump’s long-held resistance to being called to account for his falsehoods.

By Ashley Parker and Josh Dawsey
Updated October 14, 2024 at 9:02 a.m. EDT|Published October 14, 2024 at 5:00 a.m. EDT

Donald Trump and his campaign have waged an aggressive campaign against fact-checking in recent months, pushing TV networks, journalism organizations and others to abandon the practice if they hope to interact with Trump.

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Trump nearly backed out of an August interview with a group of Black journalists after learning they planned to fact-check his claims. The following month, he and his allies repeatedly complained about the fact-checking that occurred during his debate with Vice President Kamala Harris, berating journalists and news executives in the middle of the televised debate.

And this month, Trump declined to sit down for an interview with CBS’s “60 Minutes” because he objected to the show’s practice of fact-checking, according to the show.

Campaign advisers also expressly asked CBS News to forgo fact checking in its vice-presidential debate with Trump’s running mate, Ohio Sen. JD Vance — who then complained on air when a moderator corrected him.

The moves are the latest example of Trump’s long-held resistance to being called to account for his falsehoods, which have formed the bedrock of his political message for years. Just in recent weeks, for example, Trump has seized on fabricated tales of migrants eating pets and Venezuelan gangs overtaking cities in pushing his anti-immigration message as he seeks a second term in office.

Lucas Graves, a journalism and mass communications professor at the University of Wisconsin at Madison, said that publicly chafing at fact-checking has become a form of tribalism among some Republicans.

“Within the political establishment on the right, it is now considered quite legitimate — and quite legitimate to say publicly and openly — that you disapprove of fact-checking,” said Lucas, author of “Deciding What’s True: The Rise of Political Fact-Checking in American Journalism. “Precisely because of Trump’s unusual relationship with the truth — even for a politician — it’s hardly surprising that he would object to it so volubly and so forcefully.”

The Washington Post Fact Checker team tallied that by the end of Trump’s presidency, he had made 30,573 false or misleading claims — an average of about 21 false, erroneous or misleading claims a day.

In August, Trump had agreed to appear at a National Association of Black Journalists gathering, where three of the group’s members would interview him. But upon realizing that he would be fact-checked in real time, Trump’s team said he would not be taking the stage.

NABJ president Ken Lemon described a tense scene backstage as Trump’s team objected to any fact-checking of the interview, with the discussions lasting more than an hour. “If you guys are going to fact check, he’s not going to take the stage,” Lemon said a Trump aide told him. “They were just totally insistent that he was not going to take the stage if we fact-checked.”

Lemon said he spoke with three Trump aides — who at one point called to confer with someone not at the event — about their objections to fact-checking as the audience waited.

At one point, Lemon said he became convinced Trump was ultimately going to back out of the interview over his fact-checking concerns, so Lemon prepared remarks to go out and explain the cancellation to the crowd. But in the end, Trump took part in the interview, making headlines by falsely suggesting that Vice President Kamala Harris had only recently decided to identify as Black.

“It was a very revealing moment where we got to hear him answer questions, and we were shocked at what some of the answers were,” Lemon said.

Trump officials blamed the delay in taking the stage on technical audio issues.

“Here’s the truth: President Trump initially couldn’t take the stage because there were audio issues. Once the audio issues were resolved, President Trump took the stage and participated in the discussion, and the fact-checks still occurred,” Karoline Leavitt, a Trump spokeswoman, said in a statement.

Harris, too, has taken a cautious approach to interviews, largely eschewing rigorous policy questioners for lower-stakes venues and having her advisers, at times, try to prescreen questions. Her blitz this week of unscripted media settings hewed to friendly questioners, including Howard Stern of Sirius XM, CBS’s “Late Night with Stephen Colbert” and the popular “Call Her Daddy” podcast. During Harris’s NABJ forum, the interviewers pressed less contentiously than they did Trump, and during the ABC presidential debate with Trump, the moderators did not fact check her in the same manner.

One Trump adviser, speaking on the condition of anonymity to describe the campaign’s thinking, argued that Trump is treated more harshly than others. “Every candidate is opposed to fact checking on some degree, but if you’re Trump, you know they are always going to go after you harder,” the adviser said.

But Harris does not misstate the truth regularly, as Trump does, and she has also not protested being fact-checked. And unlike Trump, she sat down for a wide-ranging interview with “60 Minutes” that aired last week.

As part of Harris’s interview, the show took the extraordinary step of explaining why it was not airing a similar segment with Trump, who had initially agreed to an interview before changing his mind.

“A week ago, Trump backed out,” CBS correspondent Scott Pelley explained. “The campaign offered shifting explanations. First, it complained that we would fact-check the interview. We fact-check every story. Later, Trump said he needed an apology for his interview in 2020.”

Pelley went on to explain that the 2020 incident for which Trump requested an apology had never occurred.

Campaign advisers acknowledged there were discussions with CBS over fact-checking, and the campaign objected to the network wanting to cut into the interview to fact-check.

The two debates — first with President Joe Biden and then with Harris after Biden dropped out — proved another point of contention. Trump’s team repeatedly raised objections in negotiations that it did not want a fact-checking element during the debates, and continued to ask networks about the issue in the weeks leading up to the events, according to people familiar with the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe private negotiations.


During the debate between Trump and Biden, CNN publicly stated in advance that the moderators would not fact-check, instead leaving that to the candidates.

Before the second debate, Jason Miller, a spokesman for the Trump campaign, said the team was told by an ABC journalist that similar to the CNN debate, there would be no fact checks from the moderators. However, a copy of the ABC News debate rules, obtained by The Post, did not put any limitations on fact checking.

Nonetheless, Trump and his allies were furious with ABC for pointedly fact-checking Trump live during his debate with Harris. At one point, after Trump falsely claimed that some Democrats support executing babies after birth, moderator Linsey Davis noted, “There is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it’s born.”


At another point — after Trump repeated the false and baseless claim that Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, were abducting and eating their neighbors’ cats and dogs — moderator David Muir interjected to say that ABC News had reached out to the city manager, who “told us there have been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed, injured or abused by individuals within the immigrant community.”

Trump’s advisers — including Chris LaCivita and Miller — erupted at ABC executives and journalists in the middle of the debate, according to the people familiar with the situation. They implored the network to stop fact-checking for the rest of the event and said it had breached its promise, and a call was even lodged to the president of ABC News by Susie Wiles, the campaign’s top aide. At least one Trump adviser demanded to talk to the moderators during the debate.

The network declined to comment.

“Everyone who watched the ABC debate agreed that it was a 3-on-1 fight with 2 moderators who wrongly ‘fact-checked’ President Trump multiple times, but did not fact check Kamala Harris ONCE, even though she spewed multiple lies on the debate stage,” Leavitt said in her statement. “The ABC debate was widely viewed as one of the worst moderated debates in history, yet President Trump still won.”

Harris spokesman Kevin Munoz responded: “You have to lie to be fact-checked, and only one person on that stage was telling lie after lie.”

By the time Vance was preparing for a CBS debate with Harris’s running mate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, the issue of fact-checking was ever-present. During Vance’s debate preparations, Trump advisers had former Fox News contributor Monica Crowley play the role of a fact-checking journalist, according to people familiar with the discussions, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe deliberations.

In meetings with network executives, Vance’s team insisted there would be no fact-checking, and CBS officials said they did not expect moderators to jump in and correct candidates, leaving it up to the candidates themselves, the people said.

However, at one point, moderator Margaret Brennan corrected a comment Vance had made about the “illegal immigrants” that he claimed where overwhelming Springfield, Ohio, noting that the city’s large population of Haitian immigrants in fact have “legal status — temporary protected status.”

“Margaret, the rules were that you guys weren’t going to fact check,” Vance said. Behind the scenes, his team also raised strenuous objections with the network, arguing that such a moment was not supposed to have occurred. CBS declined to comment.

The exchange was brief, but by then, the Trump-Vance ticket’s desire to eschew fact-checking had so penetrated the public consciousness that “Saturday Night Live” poked fun at it in their next episode, when Bowen Yang, playing Vance, uttered a series of falsehoods while repeatedly muttering for the moderators not to check his facts.

“You know, Nora, it’s rich to say that Donald Trump is a threat to democracy when he peacefully gave over power — we said no fact checking — and willingly, and willingly — don’t check that — got on his plane without incident — don’t — right after saving Obamacare — don’t check that,” Yang-as-Vance said as the audience laughed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com...-interviews-debates/

There's more:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...12f34693ea0406&ei=54

Ex-DOJ Official Spells Out ‘Coming Massive Crisis’ On Election Day
Story by Lee Moran • 6h • 1 min read

(excerpt)

Former acting Solicitor General Neal Katyal this weekend suggested GOP vice presidential candidate JD Vance is “a barometer for the Republican Party” with his repeated refusals to admit that GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump lost the 2020 election to President Joe Biden— and Katyal warned what that may lead to in the immediate aftermath of next month’s vote.

“You know me, I’m normally a voice of calm and I’m here not as a voice of calm today,”

Katyal envisioned — thanks to election result-denying comments that have been made by Trump, Vance and myriad other Republicans — a “coming massive crisis that’s going to occur” when Trump and his allies will declare victory even if Democratic rival, Vice President Kamala Harris, actually wins.

Trump and the GOP will “pressure courts, they will pressure state legislatures, they will pressure state governors and they will pressure the United States Congress to throw out the popular vote and get this election through shenanigan,” Katyal warned.

Later, Katyal asked: “If they can’t admit that they lost in 2020, what makes you think, even with an overwhelming victory by Kamala Harris in 2024, that they’ll acknowledge it??

https://youtu.be/qtU_G1V829w

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...253655b50d16cb&ei=36

The Purge is real: Inside the GOP's 2024 playbook to disenfranchise voters
Story by Matt Laslo, Raw Story • 3h • 8 min read

quote:

Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

quote:

Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:

quote:

Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
I figured it was because he would be fact checked.

Also, he has a plan to (try to) steal it anyway.

Any details about the "plan"?

https://www.huffpost.com/entry...5f0de4b0d70dca9f6cb0

How Trump Is Already Setting The Groundwork To Challenge The 2024 Election Results If He Loses
A second "Stop the Steal" features an even more harebrained scenario with an even smaller chance of success than 2020's scheme.
By Paul Blumenthal
Oct 2, 2024, 07:00 AM EDT |Updated Oct 2, 2024

https://www.washingtonpost.com...aim-2020-was-rigged/

Republicans are trying to rig 2024 the way they claim 2020 was rigged
From election rules to the role of social media, the right is embracing things they used to criticize.

"How have Republicans rigged the election?"

Search results:

https://www.bing.com/news/sear...election&FORM=HDRSC7

West Virginia House Resolution on recognizing presidential election turning heads
Story by Kelli McAlhany • 1d • 3 min read

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...Uwj?ocid=socialshare

"states mandating ballot hand counting?"

Search results:

https://www.bing.com/search?q=...ghsh=0&ghacc=0&ghpl=

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/p...-voting-set-to-begin

(There's a lot more)