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Oh, while we are on the dems better planning capabilities, does quemala have one that doesn't cost 3.5 to 6 trillion, depending on the selection

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Originally posted by jdollar:
Ride on, Lone Ranger……The fact you’re the only TX Trumpiteer defending the orange Jesus is telling…

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Originally posted by wymple:

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Oh, while we are on the dems better planning capabilities, does quemala have one that doesn't cost 3.5 to 6 trillion, depending on the selection

https://www.aol.com/news/colum...-says-100059495.html

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by jdollar:
Ride on, Lone Ranger……The fact you’re the only TX Trumpiteer defending the orange Jesus is telling…

And you haven't even tried to show a single lie. And can't produce a better, contemporary plan...

Judging by your vehemence, it should be easy to spot... crickets


So, you got nothing but your rage and name calling. Dude, find a hobby

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Originally posted by jdollar:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by jdollar:
Ride on, Lone Ranger……The fact you’re the only TX Trumpiteer defending the orange Jesus is telling…

And you haven't even tried to show a single lie. And can't produce a better, contemporary plan...

Judging by your vehemence, it should be easy to spot... crickets


So, you got nothing but your rage and name calling. Dude, find a hobby

Lie? FEMA isn’t doing anything. Is that a big enough lie for you? Silly question. Obviously not…

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by jdollar:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by jdollar:
Ride on, Lone Ranger……The fact you’re the only TX Trumpiteer defending the orange Jesus is telling…

And you haven't even tried to show a single lie. And can't produce a better, contemporary plan...

Judging by your vehemence, it should be easy to spot... crickets


So, you got nothing but your rage and name calling. Dude, find a hobby

Lie? FEMA isn’t doing anything. Is that a big enough lie for you? Silly question. Obviously not…

And no one is saying fema is doing nothing. Not a soul, well, except you.

White house presser, about 1/2 an hour ago, did say fema has given out 334m in direct assistance... we have given roughly 175 b to Ukraine

Just to refresh, what's the difference between 1 million and 1 billion dollars? About a billion.

So ALMOST 0.2% as much as given to Ukraine. That point 2 percent, or 0.0019 and a bit

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Originally posted by wymple:
Jeffeosso may need a history lesson

From hurricane Mathew a few years ago

2017...RALEIGH

Governor Cooper today expressed his disappointment in the Trump Administration and Congressional leadership after they failed to fulfill North Carolina’s funding request for Hurricane Matthew recovery. In a letter, Cooper urged for more robust aid, especially in the form of housing block grants from HUD, in the upcoming budget process. That letter can be read here.



Last month, Cooper worked with Senator Thom Tillis and Representatives David Price and David Rouzer on compiling an unmet needs request to Congress. This week, state officials learned that of the more than $900 million requested, North Carolina will receive just $6.1 million, less than 1% of the resources needed to help communities and families fix homes, repair businesses and recover from the historic flooding. In today’s letter, Governor Cooper reiterated the critical and immediate need for support and urged the President to visit affected communities to better understand the challenges that remain.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by jdollar:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by jdollar:
Ride on, Lone Ranger……The fact you’re the only TX Trumpiteer defending the orange Jesus is telling…

And you haven't even tried to show a single lie. And can't produce a better, contemporary plan...

Judging by your vehemence, it should be easy to spot... crickets


So, you got nothing but your rage and name calling. Dude, find a hobby

Lie? FEMA isn’t doing anything. Is that a big enough lie for you? Silly question. Obviously not…

And no one is saying fema is doing nothing. Not a soul, well, except you.

White house presser, about 1/2 an hour ago, did say fema has given out 334m in direct assistance... we have given roughly 175 b to Ukraine

Just to refresh, what's the difference between 1 million and 1 billion dollars? About a billion.

So ALMOST 0.2% as much as given to Ukraine. That point 2 percent, or 0.0019 and a bit

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Originally posted by jdollar:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by jdollar:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by jdollar:
Ride on, Lone Ranger……The fact you’re the only TX Trumpiteer defending the orange Jesus is telling…

And you haven't even tried to show a single lie. And can't produce a better, contemporary plan...

Judging by your vehemence, it should be easy to spot... crickets


So, you got nothing but your rage and name calling. Dude, find a hobby

Lie? FEMA isn’t doing anything. Is that a big enough lie for you? Silly question. Obviously not…

And no one is saying fema is doing nothing. Not a soul, well, except you.

White house presser, about 1/2 an hour ago, did say fema has given out 334m in direct assistance... we have given roughly 175 b to Ukraine

Just to refresh, what's the difference between 1 million and 1 billion dollars? About a billion.

So ALMOST 0.2% as much as given to Ukraine. That point 2 percent, or 0.0019 and a bit

Compare apples to apples. Ukraine aid was given over a 2+ year period. Helene aid was given over a 2 week period….

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Originally posted by wymple:
For one thing, the son of a b!tch could have not delayed the covid response because it was nothing, just a plot to make him look bad. A lot of people are dead because he had to be dragged on board kicking & screaming.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by jdollar:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by jdollar:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by jdollar:
Ride on, Lone Ranger……The fact you’re the only TX Trumpiteer defending the orange Jesus is telling…

And you haven't even tried to show a single lie. And can't produce a better, contemporary plan...

Judging by your vehemence, it should be easy to spot... crickets


So, you got nothing but your rage and name calling. Dude, find a hobby

Lie? FEMA isn’t doing anything. Is that a big enough lie for you? Silly question. Obviously not…

And no one is saying fema is doing nothing. Not a soul, well, except you.

White house presser, about 1/2 an hour ago, did say fema has given out 334m in direct assistance... we have given roughly 175 b to Ukraine

Just to refresh, what's the difference between 1 million and 1 billion dollars? About a billion.

So ALMOST 0.2% as much as given to Ukraine. That point 2 percent, or 0.0019 and a bit

Compare apples to apples. Ukraine aid was given over a 2+ year period. Helene aid was given over a 2 week period….

Sure,
let's do THAT - exactly
let's say 2 years for ukraine (you can quibble about the number, but it won't make a material difference)
175 BILLION / 104 weeks = $1,682,692,307.69 PER WEEK

334 MILLION over 3 weeks is $111,333,333.33 per week

or about 6.6% as much "given" to Americans vs given to ukraine -

math really isn't your thing, is it??

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
The issue to me is not how much Ukraine has gotten. The issue is not an initial emergency payment to US citizens of $750 dollars.

The issue is we have given uphundred of billion dollar allocations to Ukraine that once approved fast tracked to the need.

While U.S. Citizens are left w a mountain on paper to fight through, needing lawyers to navigate the sea of paperwork, while suffering terribly to get any additional aide.

In Eastern KY folks are still living on FEMA trailers that lost homes to our flood destruction.

Most folks entire wealth is the equity of their home. Folks are not going to have flood insurance living in places that never flooded before.

Why is there not a legislative package to fast track the economic side including the replacement of homes based on local pac accessed value or insured value for our people.

I don’t want to hear concerns about fraud and oversight. I’ll take a little book cooking to get folks help. I’ll take a bank getting worked on a mortgage they should nicer have written.

I blame both parties bc neither has come to the floor w a bill or structure for a bill.

There is no reason we cannot have a bill sending up teen billion dollars to NC when we can in less than 30 days send a massive amount of aide by legislation to Ukraine.

If we have to pick one give me NC citizens. I do not apologize for that.

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Originally posted by jdollar:
DUMP TRUMP. Sound familiar? Just asking for a friend… And the Ukraine aid was over 134 weeks not 104. FEMA money is still going out. The rescue efforts consumed the first 7-10 days and is ongoing.How much money was sent to Ukraine in the first 10-14 days?? From a Trump opponent to a Trump apologist must be painful. I’m not voting for either candidate but obviously your morals and positions are more fluid and much more flexible…

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Originally posted by crbutler:
This was the justification for why they handed out all kinds of "loans" for Covid.

That ended up being a total cluster.

While I certainly can sympathize with getting help sooner, and more completely, it does need to be given appropriately.

That is my biggest concern re aid to Ukraine as well. I am all for helping them defend themselves, but the country didn't go from one of the 10 most corrupt nations to efficiently run just because Putin invaded.

Too much politics is "we gotta do SOMETHING!!!" and no accountability for doing the wrong thing.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
The issue to me is not how much Ukraine has gotten. The issue is not an initial emergency payment to US citizens of $750 dollars.

The issue is we have given uphundred of billion dollar allocations to Ukraine that once approved fast tracked to the need.

While U.S. Citizens are left w a mountain on paper to fight through, needing lawyers to navigate the sea of paperwork, while suffering terribly to get any additional aide.

In Eastern KY folks are still living on FEMA trailers that lost homes to our flood destruction.

Most folks entire wealth is the equity of their home. Folks are not going to have flood insurance living in places that never flooded before.

Why is there not a legislative package to fast track the economic side including the replacement of homes based on local pac accessed value or insured value for our people.

I don’t want to hear concerns about fraud and oversight. I’ll take a little book cooking to get folks help. I’ll take a bank getting worked on a mortgage they should nicer have written.

I blame both parties bc neither has come to the floor w a bill or structure for a bill.

There is no reason we cannot have a bill sending up teen billion dollars to NC when we can in less than 30 days send a massive amount of aide by legislation to Ukraine.

If we have to pick one give me NC citizens. I do not apologize for that.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by jdollar:
DUMP TRUMP. Sound familiar? Just asking for a friend… And the Ukraine aid was over 134 weeks not 104. FEMA money is still going out. The rescue efforts consumed the first 7-10 days and is ongoing.How much money was sent to Ukraine in the first 10-14 days?? From a Trump opponent to a Trump apologist must be painful. I’m not voting for either candidate but obviously your morals and positions are more fluid and much more flexible…

as i said in my first post with scary maths, the number of weeks won't make a material difference to the "apples to apples" comparison that YOU asked for - the is called moving the goal posts, as i exactly answered your first question and you didn't like the answer ..

you do under the concept of "long pole in the tent" and the WEEKS part isn't it?

Oh, and the "delayed started" for us not sending Ukraine for the first segment of the war ACTUALLY skews the numbers in a worse direction for your query

oh, but anyway, using your new numbers, adjusted for the new goal post placement, and confirming that the difference in quibbling isn't meaningful
let's do THAT - exactly
let's say 2 years for ukraine (you can quibble about the number, but it won't make a material difference)
175 BILLION / 134 weeks = $1,305,970,149.25 PER WEEK

334 MILLION over 3 weeks is $111,333,333.33 per week

or about 8.5+% as much "given" to Americans vs given to ukraine

perhaps you have a different question you'd like to ask