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https://x.com/kylenabecker/sta...773564997644341?s=46 Whistleblowers accuse senior Army officials of lying about National Guard response on Jan. 6 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | ||
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Trump not only dropped the ball regarding the mob he instigated on J the 6th, but he did his damn well best to try to steal the election both before and after the 6th. Fake electors, the "perfect phone call" to Raffensperger asking him to find 11,780 votes, ETC. The 6th was just the most visible part of Trump's attempted theft, it went far, far beyond what happened on that day. This post by you, embracing an alternative set of facts, does indeed make common ground a hard to to achieve. Ironic when looked at in context of your last post on the NPR thread. Steve | |||
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Let me get this straight Steve. You are classifying the sworn testimony in front of the US Congress by an Army Captain who was present throughout the chain of command events on J6 as “alternative facts!?” ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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What he said immediately after he lost amounts to treason! Lock up the bastard! In a MAGA JAIL! | |||
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I have posted the law on the issue. I have heard the general testify under oath’s I saw Trump do it w BLM. Your opinion piece cannot change the law. Let us look at what the law says https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/12406 https://www.archives.gov/feder...ive-order/11485.html | |||
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Please Joshua…show me where I interjected “my opinion” in the above post. I posted the words of the Army Captain whose job it was to transcribe the events of day. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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I am classifying your version of the "truth" as an alternative set of facts. I could care less about the National Guard's actions that day. What matters to me is the totality of the evidence, the vast, vast majority of which shows that Trump did everything he could to try to steal the 2020 election. I'll agree with Saeed, Lock the bastard up. | |||
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You are on a fishing expedition who will give credence to your view to take the heat off President Trump. When, the law clearly gives the lier to mobilize the DC guard to the President. We saw President Trump mobilize the DC Guard against BLM. The generals have testified under oath on this issue. The DC Guard is the Garrison of Rome. The above opinion piece you posted cannot change Fed Law. Read it. Also, did you ever consider this man’s potential biases. Officer Biographies are full of presenting their view on the best light while down playing reasons for failure. We know he has done bias because the position is not supported by Fed Law, recent history, nor testimony of generals. What does Flynn have to do with the President’s authority over the DC Guard. I do not know who this man is you quote, but he is not credible on this issue. You need to stop it, read the law, look at what President Trump did on a similar situation with the Left, accept it, hold President Trump to account, and move on. | |||
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OK…you’re entitled to your opinion. The thread is about the National Guard on Jan 6th. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Posse Comitatus Act Go read it. Not an opinion. Legal fact. You are intentionally being stupid. Your stupidity on this matter is being manipulated. Go read the Law. | |||
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I believe you mean to say....look over there>>>>> Your attempts to paint Trump as somehow acting in a reasonable manner on the 6th are REALLY pathetic. Trump was a total failure on the 6th, as well as before and after the 6th. | |||
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I posted the words of the man, an Army Captain, whose job it was to transcribe the events in the chain of command of the DC NG. Don’t be so blinded by your hatred. He tells the story. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Your opinion have zero relevance in “the truth” (you know that distraction on getting things done ) of what went on that day. This man, an Army Captain, had the job of documenting the events of the command that day. He set the record straight. Yes, yes…it gets in the way of “getting things done.” ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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All hail the Orange Jesus! Pathetic Lane, completely pathetic. Trump failed every way a man could fail on J the 6th. There is nothing in his behavior that day worthy of defending. | |||
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I watched January 6 live on television. I saw what happened. I know the President has the power to call out the national guard to help restore order . . . or just Tweet to his disciples that enough is enough. Efforts to spin January 6 as something it wasn't or that January 6 was someone else's fault frankly sicken me and reinforce the intellectual dishonesty of those doing the spinning. Mike | |||
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The Guard was authorized to go. The chain of command failed due to “optics.” Those of you who don’t want the truth to get in way of getting things done — there is no hope for you. You are just blinded by hatred. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Revisionist history Lane. None of your excuses justify Trump's behavior the 6th, or in the days surrounding it. Trump tried to steal the election....enough said. | |||
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I think “revisionist” better describes those who don’t listen to what this Captain just testified to. He was the best person to lay out the facts of the chain of command that day…don’t you agree? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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No, what I think is that you are trying to muddy the water in an attempt to paint Trump's actions as somehow just. The Guard is only a tiny piece of the puzzle regarding Trump's attempt to steal the 2020 election. It really means nothing. What is important is the failed plot that Trump put into action, both before and after the 6th. No matter how hard you try, those basic facts remain. Trump is a lying, cheating, philandering, fraud who attempted to steal the 2020 Presidential Election. Facts..... | |||
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Me muddying the water??? All I did was post a credible factual quote from a man in the best position to know something about the NG deployment on J6. The thread was solely about the NG on J6. You have now posted volumes trying to “muddy the water” on actual facts on a post about a specific event. I guess this like you “living in reality!” Give me a break. Steve ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Lane, You can minimize until the cows come home. The attack on the Capital was broadcast live on TV, I watched it and I have heard the evidence of Trump's attempts to steal the election. I listened to the "perfect phone call" to Raffensperger. Trump's behavior is inexcusable....no matter how hard you try. Steve | |||
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One of the most intellectually dishonest folks on this forum is fond of saying that some people cannot see the forest for the trees. That is exactly what the January 6 revisionists want voters to do . . . focus on the trees and ignore the forest. If they can get folks to focus on the minutia then they hope folks will forget what they saw with their lying eyes. The good news is that most folks recognize the rubbish they try to sell as trash. Mike | |||
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If Trump had gotten 10,000 troops lined up, would he have ordered them to clear his supporters from the grounds, or seize voting machines? I idly wonder... TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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The events you watched (as did I) have zero to do with the chain of command that day and the failure of the NG to be present. Idiots rioted that day — fact. The NG should have responded earlier — fact. The NG was pre-authorized to respond — fact. They didn’t due to failure in the chain of command below the POTUS — fact. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Nowhere in that testimony do I see any indication that Donald Trump made any attempt to mobilize the National Guard. On Jan. 6th, I did see the Rabble Rouser in Chief stir up a mob and send them to the capitol. This was just before he jumped in his car and ran away and hid. In essence, this testimony is only an attempt to assign or deflect blame within the command structure. It says nothing about the actions of Donald Trump. Regards, Bill. | |||
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He pre-authorized the NG to go. Told McCarthy to send them if requested. That is undeniable fact. What more do you want? The guard didn’t mobilize due to a break down in lower command — just as the Captain testified. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Not what was testified too by the generals. See the Fed Laws who has direct control. It was President Trump’s duty and responsibility. He failed. | |||
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An honest man who can accept his loss. Someone with integrity. | |||
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I am going to take this Captain at his word. You can call him a liar and believe a General with a political agenda over him if you choose. The NG was greenlighted. The chain of command (read Generals worried about “optics”) broke down. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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A lovely way of saying "I embrace alternative facts and the narrative of my choice". How are you sure it is not the Captain who is politically motivated? None of which matters anyway, the fact is that Trump tried to steal the election and encouraged the attack on the Capital on the 6th. Those facts are irrefutable. | |||
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The person at the top of the chain of command was Trump. If he had wanted the national guard to intervene he could have made that happen — fact. Mike | |||
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The Federal Law tells us who has the power. I have given those laws. Dr. Easter refuses to read them. The law is clear. The duty and power set in the President’s lap. | |||
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This is the first I’ve heard that Trump had previously authorized deployment… of course, I suspect that the POTUS authorization is required, but I have always suspected that there is a generic approval on file for urgent action when emergencies arise. What this captain said doesn’t surprise me at all. The way things worked out showed all kinds of confusion. That being said, Trump could have made it happen earlier if he had wanted to. The generals failed. Trump failed. That the GOP voters want him again after this is really sad. | |||
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A 1949 exec, order by Harry Truman gave command of the DC NG to the Sec of Defense and Sec of the Army. Why does the lie continue "only the president can order the DC NG? This all came out in the congressional hearings. The DC chief of police was fired ( resigned) for her failure to get her head out of her ass. The mayor was involved in the 3 way circle jerk that ensued, and delayed the guards arrival. Some of you are trying to rewrite history. | |||
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Nitwit, could Trump have ordered the National Guard out if he wanted to quell the rioting while he watched it like a football game at the White House? Truman also had a plate on his desk that said, “The Buck Stops Here”. Mike | |||
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I think you both are correct. Trump could have insisted the guard be turned out, but so could the underlying chain of command. Trump failed to do his duty. So did the mayor, the folks in the DC police department, and the generals involved. Yes, Trump is the guy with the ultimate authority. He failed. But so did all the subordinates who had authority and passed the buck up to him. It’s not only on Trump, but it is on him. | |||
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Sure dumbass. Trump could say " go rush the mob" Of course, not knowing where the DC cops were, the undercover cops were, or a host of other issues like, where is the route clear to get in there. You have never run a military style operation have you Jines? You need info to make it work, unless it's scorched earth. All of this was going on while Trump was giggling about the mob. But please, with your vast knowledge, tell us how it would have worked? | |||
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I guess you forgot . . . conveniently no doubt . . . that the Orange Jesus called out National Guard troops to forcefully push back protesters outside the White House protesting the George Floyd killing to clear a way for him to visit a church, saying he wanted a military show of force against violent protests gripping the country. You know the event he showed up holding the Bible upside down. Own it, he did not call out the National Guard on January 6 because he was like a giddy schoolboy watching the riots. Idiot. Mike | |||
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you mean the "mostly peaceful" rioters, looters, and arsonists that attacked over 60 secret service uniformed service agents? THAT'S what you are going to try and whataboutism about? THAT? man, dude, must wow opinions vary band of bubbas and STC hunting Club Information on Ammoguide about the416AR, 458AR, 470AR, 500AR What is an AR round? Case Drawings 416-458-470AR and 500AR. 476AR, http://www.weaponsmith.com | |||
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Jeffe, Jeffe, Jeffe...please try to keep your riots straights. https://abcnews.go.com/Politic...ls/story?id=71004151 https://www.npr.org/2020/06/01...ers-church-officials Because other protests turned to riots, it does not mean all protests are riots. Boy do you seem to struggle with the concept of equivalency. If you are going to bring up the Floyd riots, do not leave out the fact that some of the worst violence during those riots was committed by the far right, including murder and arson of a police station. https://www.courthousenews.com...ing-federal-officer/ https://www.police1.com/george...re-nKd5RboPPFKRy53f/ | |||
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