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The mentally ill need a friend, so what's the problem? You should get in line.
 
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By posting that short clip I figure you are soliciting.

One could say the woman ain't perfect, but she's not the villain demon the Right has painted her.

I think that statement of "deprogramming" is about the same level of shouldn't have said it as her "Basket of Deplorables" comment. She was right on both accounts but WTF does it matter except to give affirmation for hate.

She was right about her cult-like comment too.

OTOH, she still thinks somehow the MAGAs can be reasoned or negotiated with.

Anyway, I'm glad she's still out and about and speaking out. We need all the help we can get to rid ourselves of Trumpism.

The interview was much longer. Here's a longer version of that segment.

https://youtu.be/7dhNJ0MK0BY?si=lGisEEYS-MNWRYiZ

The comments below the video are interesting too.

Us who are opposed to Trumpism, outside looking in, have struggled to understand what's going on there and put labels on it, such as cult, alt-reality, fantasy, ignorance, fascist, etc.

The little incident of FEMA testing the national emergency system and the rabid conspiracy theories that fomented before the event caused me to think about the Right and Trumpism a little differently. We see the "tear it all down", the projectionism, MTG, Gaetz, the wild conspiracy theories, the closing in or shutting out to believing what is observed and experienced as the only trusted reality, yet Fox news proliferates. etc.

It's dystopic, from at least two angles - one is the behavior/beliefs, two is their presumed solution. They actually believe they are living in a Dystopia now, and would if they could fix it by dominating their worldview dystopia upon us all.

"Deprograming" as in involuntary outside force, isn't the right thing that will solve such a problem. Even the suggestion of such a thing serves as fear affirmation, practically the same as if Hillary visited the Jim Jones cult and made such suggestion to them.


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Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

FYI - if you ID as "conservative" nowadays, Trump owns you.



 
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dah, tovarishch, send political enemies to the gulag, er, re-education centers


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dah, tovarishch, send political enemies to the gulag, er, re-education centers


I rest my case. I wish she wouldn't say shit like that. It only feeds the fodder.

Actually, IMO, I wish she and Trump would just STFU.


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It's the only effective way to break the grip of a cult on those weak-minded enough to get caught up to begin with.


"If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump
 
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dah, tovarishch, send political enemies to the gulag, er, re-education centers


I rest my case. I wish she wouldn't say shit like that. It only feeds the fodder.

Actually, IMO, I wish she and Trump would just STFU.

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It's the only effective way to break the grip of a cult on those weak-minded enough to get caught up to begin with.


legality, sir - But Pol Pot couldn't agree more

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dah, tovarishch, send political enemies to the gulag, er, re-education centers


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When a right winger says something this stupid, they get rightly hammered.

When HRC says it, it’s treated like “she has a point…”

And the media and the center left wonders why the right feels like there is a two tier track in society?

Hint, the left has put way more people away worldwide for “reeducation/reprogramming” than the right. The marxists started before the fascists and continued after the fascist regimes were thrown out.
 
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When a right winger says something this stupid, they get rightly hammered.

When HRC says it, it’s treated like “she has a point…”

And the media and the center left wonders why the right feels like there is a two tier track in society?

Hint, the left has put way more people away worldwide for “reeducation/reprogramming” than the right. The marxists started before the fascists and continued after the fascist regimes were thrown out.


The Right just puts them before firing squads or into ovens.


"If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump
 
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In a true shocker nobody could have seen coming Fox News deceptively edited the video and left out important context...

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And Mao or Stalin just shot them behind the ear and dumped the corpse.

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When a right winger says something this stupid, they get rightly hammered.

When HRC says it, it’s treated like “she has a point…”

And the media and the center left wonders why the right feels like there is a two tier track in society?

Hint, the left has put way more people away worldwide for “reeducation/reprogramming” than the right. The marxists started before the fascists and continued after the fascist regimes were thrown out.


The Right just puts them before firing squads or into ovens.
 
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Whose hero? A good third choice would be great. If it’s a choice between trump and fresh dog turd, I’ll choose the dog turd. Dog shit has more integrity than trump.
 
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When a right winger says something this stupid, they get rightly hammered.

When HRC says it, it’s treated like “she has a point…”

And the media and the center left wonders why the right feels like there is a two tier track in society?

Hint, the left has put way more people away worldwide for “reeducation/reprogramming” than the right. The marxists started before the fascists and continued after the fascist regimes were thrown out.


Can you imaging if trump endorsed Govt. mandated "deprogramming"

Here's where all this started. It's a very important 13 minutes to watch. Our left has been brainwashed by KGB tactics and they can't admit it.

This video is exactly what is happening now. it's from 1985

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOmXiapfCs8


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In a true shocker nobody could have seen coming Fox News deceptively edited the video and left out important context...

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Oh, so creative editing is against the rules...
Hey, MSM - we need to talk, Lord High Sarge said ......


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When a right winger says something this stupid, they get rightly hammered.

When HRC says it, it’s treated like “she has a point…”

And the media and the center left wonders why the right feels like there is a two tier track in society?

Hint, the left has put way more people away worldwide for “reeducation/reprogramming” than the right. The marxists started before the fascists and continued after the fascist regimes were thrown out.



The Right just puts them before firing squads or into ovens.



Where has the Right put people in ovens?

Do you perhaps mean the National Socialist German Workers’ Party,( in German, National-Sozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei), is that the 'Right' you are talking about? You do know that the NAZI Party was far-Left, don't you? And that the NAZI's put many people into the 'ovens'

Let's see, during WW2, who put who into 'camps'? Oh yes, it was a Democrat (FDR) that put 'those Brown people' in to camps.

Which side wanted to keep slaves? Why, none other than the Democratic Senator Stephen A. Douglas, during his debates with Abe Lincoln, (who, by the way, was a Republican).

Seems to me that, if you study history, you will find that Leftist/Communist/Socialist/Democrats, but I repeat myself, are the ones who actually HAVE put people in ovens, 're-education' camps and that wanted to keep slaves.
 
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When a right winger says something this stupid, they get rightly hammered.

When HRC says it, it’s treated like “she has a point…”

And the media and the center left wonders why the right feels like there is a two tier track in society?

Hint, the left has put way more people away worldwide for “reeducation/reprogramming” than the right. The marxists started before the fascists and continued after the fascist regimes were thrown out.


The Right just puts them before firing squads or into ovens.


You sir need to watch the youtube I posted from the ex KGB agent. You have been successfully brainwashed.


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Ah , yes,
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When a right winger says something this stupid, they get rightly hammered.

When HRC says it, it’s treated like “she has a point…”

And the media and the center left wonders why the right feels like there is a two tier track in society?

Hint, the left has put way more people away worldwide for “reeducation/reprogramming” than the right. The marxists started before the fascists and continued after the fascist regimes were thrown out.



The Right just puts them before firing squads or into ovens.



Where has the Right put people in ovens?

Do you perhaps mean the National Socialist German Workers’ Party,( in German, National-Sozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei), is that the 'Right' you are talking about? You do know that the NAZI Party was far-Left, don't you? And that the NAZI's put many people into the 'ovens'

Let's see, during WW2, who put who into 'camps'? Oh yes, it was a Democrat (FDR) that put 'those Brown people' in to camps.

Which side wanted to keep slaves? Why, none other than the Democratic Senator Stephen A. Douglas, during his debates with Abe Lincoln, (who, by the way, was a Republican).

Seems to me that, if you study history, you will find that Leftist/Communist/Socialist/Democrats, but I repeat myself, are the ones who actually HAVE put people in ovens, 're-education' camps and that wanted to keep slaves.


A terribly inconvenient truth...... But truth nonetheless...... Repeating the same atrocities in a gentler form still today.


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In a true shocker nobody could have seen coming Fox News deceptively edited the video and left out important context...

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I saw that but didn't comment on it.

Deceptively edited the video is obvious. There are several skips.

"Nobody could have seen it coming"? Why not? It's standard M.O. for Fox. It's not a shocker at all. That's what they do. That's why I posted the link to the longer version of the interview for that segment.

Nonetheless, I think she shouldn't have used the concept or the words, "deprograming". It could have a malevolent meaning, but the assumption will be for the worse. She should know better by now, especially spouting the rest of the stuff she says. One slip-up like that negates whatever good she may be saying.


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Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

FYI - if you ID as "conservative" nowadays, Trump owns you.



 
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When a right winger says something this stupid, they get rightly hammered.

When HRC says it, it’s treated like “she has a point…”

And the media and the center left wonders why the right feels like there is a two tier track in society?

Hint, the left has put way more people away worldwide for “reeducation/reprogramming” than the right. The marxists started before the fascists and continued after the fascist regimes were thrown out.



The Right just puts them before firing squads or into ovens.



Where has the Right put people in ovens?

Do you perhaps mean the National Socialist German Workers’ Party,( in German, National-Sozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei), is that the 'Right' you are talking about? You do know that the NAZI Party was far-Left, don't you? And that the NAZI's put many people into the 'ovens'

Let's see, during WW2, who put who into 'camps'? Oh yes, it was a Democrat (FDR) that put 'those Brown people' in to camps.

Which side wanted to keep slaves? Why, none other than the Democratic Senator Stephen A. Douglas, during his debates with Abe Lincoln, (who, by the way, was a Republican).

Seems to me that, if you study history, you will find that Leftist/Communist/Socialist/Democrats, but I repeat myself, are the ones who actually HAVE put people in ovens, 're-education' camps and that wanted to keep slaves.


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The Nazi Party,[b] officially the National Socialist German Workers' Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei[c] or NSDAP), was a far-right[10][11][12] political party in Germany active between 1920 and 1945 that created and supported the ideology of Nazism.
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The National Socialist German Workers’ Party—also known as the Nazi Party—was the far-right racist and antisemitic political party led by Adolf Hitler.
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The claim that the Nazis actually were leftists or socialists in any generally accepted sense of those terms flies in the face of historical reality.
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Also, the party of Lincoln is NOT the GOP today. That's a fact.

Neither is the Democrat party the same as the southern democrats who succeeded and wanted slavery.

It's a false narrative to claim otherwise, but it's std fodder for Rightist argument. It trashes one's credibility, especially talking about history, to make the claim, in the context of today.


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"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

FYI - if you ID as "conservative" nowadays, Trump owns you.



 
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Also, the party of Lincoln is NOT the GOP today. That's a fact.

Neither is the Democrat party the same as the southern democrats who succeeded and wanted slavery.

It's a false narrative to claim otherwise, but it's std fodder for Rightist argument. It trashes one's credibility, especially talking about history, to make the claim Butler did, in the context of today.


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And nobody on the right should be lecturing anybody about values & right & wrong.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...46fb6625966119&ei=31
 
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I agree with Hillary here to some extent. Millions of MAGA cult members really ought to be deprogrammed for their own good and the good of the country.

But her use of the term "formally deprogrammed" suggests government involvement, a scary thought. If that's how she thinks, she's not what I want for a president.
 
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And if you are not Maga, then you must be Heaven water carrier?
Amazing


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Instead of deprograming, let's flip it and talk about programing.

Hillary's comment was a one-off, unreal, but it wasn't as noxious as this:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...WVC?ocid=socialshare

‘The endgame of election denial is that we shouldn't have elections’: Authoritarianism expert


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"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

FYI - if you ID as "conservative" nowadays, Trump owns you.



 
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https://youtu.be/OCaEM83jsm4?si=91Wcci5Okma2nZ0v

Hillary Clinton explains why Donald Trump fans need to be "deprogrammed"


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"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

FYI - if you ID as "conservative" nowadays, Trump owns you.



 
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When a right winger says something this stupid, they get rightly hammered.

When HRC says it, it’s treated like “she has a point…”

And the media and the center left wonders why the right feels like there is a two tier track in society?

Hint, the left has put way more people away worldwide for “reeducation/reprogramming” than the right. The marxists started before the fascists and continued after the fascist regimes were thrown out.


Yeah, of course what you are ignoring is that it's only the right-wingers that have a cult. Wink


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antifa isn't a cult? who knew


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antifa isn't a cult? who knew


Antifa is an inconsequential cult incapable of supporting and electing a president.

Not a valid analogy.


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Just to be clear, it was Hillary who put Donald Trump in office; Hillary and the idiots who were bound and determined to put her up as their candidate. They simply didn't believe how despised she was. Regards, Bill.
 
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in response to NAZI's being right-wing, here are a few of the NAZI parties ideas:
We demand that the State shall make it its primary duty to provide a livelihood for its citizens;
We demand the nationalization of all businesses which have been formed into corporations (trusts);
We demand the creation and maintenance of a healthy middle class, the immediate communalizing of big department stores, and their lease at a cheap rate to small traders, and that the utmost consideration shall be shown to all small traders in the placing of State and municipal orders.;
We demand a land reform suitable to our national requirements, the passing of a law for the expropriation of land for communal purposes without compensation; the abolition of ground rent, and the prohibition of all speculation in land;
The publishing of papers which are not conducive to the national welfare must be forbidden;
we demand the creation of a strong central state power for the Reich;


This NAZI party play book does not appear to be right-wing oriented, does it?

It sounds more like a Lefty's wet dream, lol.
 
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I for one would like to see your source for that post.

I'm always glad to provide a link to my sources:

https://www.vaholocaust.org/wp...2016/06/25Points.pdf

or: https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org.../nazi-party-platform

25 Points of the Nazi Party
National Socialistic Yearbook 1941
Edited by: Dr. Robert Ley
Published by: Central Publishing House of the N.S.D.A.P.
Franz Eher, successor Munich
The program of the NSDAP
The program is the political foundation of the NSDAP and accordingly the primary political law of
the State. It has been made brief and clear intentionally.
All legal precepts must be applied in the spirit of the party program.
Since the taking over of control, the Fuehrer has succeeded in the realization of essential
portions of the Party program from the fundamentals to the detail.
The Party Program of the NSDAP was proclaimed on the 24 February 1920 by Adolf Hitler at the
first large Party gathering in Munich and since that day has remained unaltered. Within the national
socialist philosophy is summarized in 25 points:
1. We demand the unification of all Germans in the Greater Germany on the basis of the right of
self-determination of peoples.
2. We demand equality of rights for the German people in respect to the other nations;
abrogation of the peace treaties of Versailles and St. Germain.
3. We demand land and territory (colonies) for the sustenance of our people, and colonization
for our surplus population.
4. Only a member of the race can be a citizen. A member of the race can only be one who is of
German blood, without consideration of creed. Consequently no Jew can be a member of the race.
5. Whoever has no citizenship is to be able to live in Germany only as a guest, and must be
under the authority of legislation for foreigners.
6. The right to determine matters concerning administration and law belongs only to the citizen.
Therefore we demand that every public office, of any sort whatsoever, whether in the Reich, the county
or municipality, be filled only by citizens. We combat the corrupting parliamentary economy, officeholding only according to party inclinations without consideration of character or abilities.
7. We demand that the state be charged first with providing the opportunity for a livelihood and
way of life for the citizens. If it is impossible to sustain the total population of the State, then the
members of foreign nations (non-citizens) are to be expelled from the Reich.
8. Any further immigration of non-citizens is to be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans,
who have immigrated to Germany since the 2 August 1914, be forced immediately to leave the Reich.
9. All citizens must have equal rights and obligations.
10. The first obligation of every citizen must be to work both spiritually and physically. The
activity of individuals is not to counteract the interests of the universality, but must have its result within
the framework of the whole for the benefit of all
Consequently we demand:
11. Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of rent-slavery.
12. In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of
the people personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people.
Therefore we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.
13. We demand the nationalization of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).
14. We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.
15. We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.
16. We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate
communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost
consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.
17. We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free
expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all
speculation in land.
18. We demand struggle without consideration against those whose activity is injurious to the
general interest. Common national criminals, usurers, Schieber1
and so forth are to be punished with
death, without consideration of confession or race.
19. We demand substitution of a German common law in place of the Roman Law serving a
materialistic world-order.
20. The state is to be responsible for a fundamental reconstruction of our whole national
education program, to enable every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education and
subsequently introduction into leading positions. The plans of instruction of all educational institutions
are to conform with the experiences of practical life. The comprehension of the concept of the State
must be striven for by the school [Staatsbuergerkunde] as early as the beginning of understanding. We
demand the education at the expense of the State of outstanding intellectually gifted children of poor
parents without consideration of position or profession.
21. The State is to care for the elevating national health by protecting the mother and child, by
outlawing child-labor, by the encouragement of physical fitness, by means of the legal establishment of
a gymnastic and sport obligation, by the utmost support of all organizations concerned with the physical
instruction of the young.
22. We demand abolition of the mercenary troops and formation of a national army.
23. We demand legal opposition to known lies and their promulgation through the press. In
order to enable the provision of a German press, we demand, that a: All writers and employees of the
newspapers appearing in the German language be members of the race b: Non-German newspapers be
required to have the express permission of the State to be published. They may not be printed in the
German language c: Non-Germans are forbidden by law any financial interest in German publications or
any influence on them and as punishment for violations the closing of such a publication as well as the
immediate expulsion from the Reich of the non-German concerned. Publications which are counter to
the general good are to be forbidden. We demand legal prosecution of artistic and literary forms which
exert a destructive influence on our national life, and the closure of organizations opposing the above
made demands.
24. We demand freedom of religion for all religious denominations within the state so long as
they do not endanger its existence or oppose the moral senses of the Germanic race. The Party as such
advocates the standpoint of a positive Christianity without binding itself confessionally to any one
denomination. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit within and around us, and is convinced that a
lasting recovery of our nation can only succeed from within on the framework: common utility precedes
individual utility.
25. For the execution of all of this we demand the formation of a strong central power in the
Reich. Unlimited authority of the central parliament over the whole Reich and its organizations in
general. The forming of state and profession chambers for the execution of the laws made by the Reich
within the various states of the confederation. The leaders of the Party promise, if necessary by
sacrificing their own lives, to support by the execution of the points set forth above without
consideration.
Adolf Hitler proclaimed the following explanation for this program on the 13 April 1928:
Explanation
Regarding the false interpretations of Point 17 of the program of the NSDAP on the part of our
opponents, the following definition is necessary:
"Since the NSDAP stands on the platform of private ownership it happens that the passage "gratuitous
expropriation concerns only the creation of legal opportunities to expropriate if necessary, land which
has been illegally acquired or is not administered from the viewpoint of the national welfare. This is
directed primarily against the Jewish land-speculation companies.”


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Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

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https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org.../nazi-party-platform

https://www.ushmm.org/

United States Holocaust Memorial Museum.

Look up Nazi Party Platform.

In spite of what various University professors would like you to believe, the NAZI party was Socialist, not right-wing.

Remember way back in the 1990's, when a TV network 'color-coded' the voting between Red and Blue? At that time, Red was Democrat and Blue was Republican.

After a couple of election cycles, someone noticed that Red stands for Democrat but also stands for Communist, so the major news networks quietly, and without fanfare, switched the colors to what we have today.

The Left/Democrats/Communists have always lied and obfuscated their positions using 'the ends justify the means' logic.

Isn't that correct?
 
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https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org.../nazi-party-platform

https://www.ushmm.org/

United States Holocaust Memorial Museum.

Look up Nazi Party Platform.

In spite of what various University professors would like you to believe, the NAZI party was Socialist, not right-wing.

Remember way back in the 1990's, when a TV network 'color-coded' the voting between Red and Blue? At that time, Red was Democrat and Blue was Republican.

After a couple of election cycles, someone noticed that Red stands for Democrat but also stands for Communist, so the major news networks quietly, and without fanfare, switched the colors to what we have today.

The Left/Democrats/Communists have always lied and obfuscated their positions using 'the ends justify the means' logic.

Isn't that correct?


From your Link

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The National Socialist German Workers’ Party—also known as the Nazi Party—was the far-right racist and antisemitic political party led by Adolf Hitler.


So what's the purpose of your lying and obfuscation?


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The Left/Democrats/Communists have always lied and obfuscated their positions using 'the ends justify the means' logic.

Isn't that correct?


Psychological projection doesn't get much clearer than that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...hological_projection

Psychological projection is a defence mechanism of alterity concerning "inside" content mistaken to be coming from the "outside" Other.[1] It forms the basis of empathy by the projection of personal experiences to understand someone else's subjective world.[1] In its malignant forms , it is a defense mechanism in which the ego defends itself against disowned and highly negative parts of the self by denying their existence in themselves and attributing them to others, breeding misunderstanding and causing untold interpersonal damage.[2] A bully may project their own feelings of vulnerability onto the target, or a person who is confused may project feelings of confusion and inadequacy onto other people. Projection incorporates blame shifting and can manifest as shame dumping.[3] Projection has been described as an early phase of introjection.[4]

The Babylonian Talmud (500 AD) notes the human tendency toward projection and warns against it: "Do not taunt your neighbour with the blemish you yourself have."[10] In the New Testament, Jesus warned against projection: "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."[11]

Projection (German: Projektion) was conceptualised by Sigmund Freud in his letters to Wilhelm Fliess,[12] and further refined by Karl Abraham and Anna Freud. Freud considered that, in projection, thoughts, motivations, desires, and feelings that cannot be accepted as one's own are dealt with by being placed in the outside world and attributed to someone else.[13] What the ego refuses to accept is split off and placed in another.[14]

Freud would later come to believe that projection did not take place arbitrarily, but rather seized on and exaggerated an element that already existed on a small scale in the other person.[15]


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Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

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Reading the points laid out by the source ME cited, there are some subtle, but important verbiage changes:

My source:
We demand the nationalization of all businesses which have been formed into corporations (trusts);
ME's:We demand the nationalization of all (previous) associated industries (trusts);

My source:We demand the creation and maintenance of a healthy middle class, the immediate communalizing of big department stores, and their lease at a cheap rate to small traders, and that the utmost consideration shall be shown to all small traders in the placing of State and municipal orders.
ME's:We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate
communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost
consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.

In any event, 'Nationalization of all business' or 'nationalization of all associated industries', is not a right-wing theme, but it is with the Left.

Socialists are weak-minded. At least a Communist has the courage of his convictions.

A Socialist will 'let' you retain ownership, but they want to tell you how to run your business. If their ideas go bad, the owner takes the hit.

Communists, on the other hand, want to own the business and tell it what to do. If it goes bad, it's on them.

A direct question to ME and Jeffive:

Does nationalization of private business come from the Right, or the Left?
 
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Does nationalization of private business come from the Right, or the Left?


It comes from a figment of your imagination and indoctrination, insofar as this country is concerned. It's theoretical, as in conspiracy theory.


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Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

FYI - if you ID as "conservative" nowadays, Trump owns you.



 
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Reading the points laid out by the source ME cited, there are some subtle, but important verbiage changes:

My source:
We demand the nationalization of all businesses which have been formed into corporations (trusts);
ME's:We demand the nationalization of all (previous) associated industries (trusts);

My source:We demand the creation and maintenance of a healthy middle class, the immediate communalizing of big department stores, and their lease at a cheap rate to small traders, and that the utmost consideration shall be shown to all small traders in the placing of State and municipal orders.
ME's:We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate
communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost
consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.

In any event, 'Nationalization of all business' or 'nationalization of all associated industries', is not a right-wing theme, but it is with the Left.

Socialists are weak-minded. At least a Communist has the courage of his convictions.

A Socialist will 'let' you retain ownership, but they want to tell you how to run your business. If their ideas go bad, the owner takes the hit.

Communists, on the other hand, want to own the business and tell it what to do. If it goes bad, it's on them.

A direct question to ME and Jeffive:

Does nationalization of private business come from the Right, or the Left?


The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum clearly states that the Nazi Party was a far-right group.


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