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Originally posted by bluefish:
Right after you tell us how AOC and other Squad clowns, et al became the face of the Democratic Party

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Originally posted by Jefffive:
Gaetz can only oust McCarthy from the Speaker's chair for working with Democrats if he works with Democrats.

Democrats should let McCarthy fall, there is no Republican behind him who can get the votes and eventually the few remaining sane Republicans will agree to seat [insert drum roll here] Speaker Hakeem Jeffries.

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Originally posted by bluefish:
Right after you tell us how AOC and other Squad clowns, et al became the face of the Democratic Party

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:
Gaetz can only oust McCarthy from the Speaker's chair for working with Democrats if he works with Democrats.

Democrats should let McCarthy fall, there is no Republican behind him who can get the votes and eventually the few remaining sane Republicans will agree to seat [insert drum roll here] Speaker Hakeem Jeffries.

I thought working with the opposition party was the way congress gets shit done.

Gaetz is nothing but a shit-stirring bomb-throwing troll who loves attention.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
my money is on kevin getting dem support -

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Originally posted by crbutler:
And that subgroup of republicans doesn’t realize that the vast majority of the country doesn’t agree with them as far as priorities?

Shutting the country down is vehemently disagreed with by the vast majority. Their claim that by doing so they would affect border security is hogwash. Biden isn’t going to change his spots, and shutting down the government makes the GOP look like they cannot govern. Shutting down just strengthens the opposition.

But apparently Gaetz doesn’t realize he’s not on the winning side of the argument as far as running the country goes.

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...aafd061fc374c2&ei=25

All That Drama and the House GOP’s Only Win Was for the Kremlin
Opinion by David Rothkopf • 21h

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But they also knew that every recent past government shutdown—and all were the handiwork of Republican House majorities—backfired on its authors. And so, just as many had given up hope and every agency of the U.S. government was making plans for a government shutdown that would have begun at midnight of Oct. 1, McCarthy agreed to put forward a so-called “clean” Continuing Resolution that would extend funding for government programs until Nov. 17 of this year. They continued funding at prior levels. They even included funding for disaster assistance and cut a pay boost the House GOP was trying to give itself despite their reckless disregard for their responsibilities.

But something had to be given to the far right. The GOP needed some concession to make it seem as though their childish games had all been worth it. What did they choose? What was the one thing they said would be the last hill they would die on, the one issue so important to them that they would turn out the lights of the U.S. government to defend their position? It was to defund Ukraine aid. It was to settle for, in the words of progressive commentator Josh Marshall, “one sloppy kiss with Vladimir Putin.”

The message that it sent to the world was unmistakable. Economist Timothy Ash tweeted, “Staggering that the GOP, the party of Reagan, has been captured by Russian fascists.”

French writer and philosopher Bernard-Henri Levy wrote that U.S. aid to Ukraine should not be politicized, saying “it is about freedom and democracy, good over evil, right over wrong. Support for Ukraine is essential for the entire free world.”

Yale history professor Timothy Snyder wrote, “Cutting off Ukraine aid makes America unreliable, weakens the cause of democracy, threatens the international legal order, encourages tyrants around the world, and hastens Chinese aggression.”

Liz Cheney, one of the last Republicans with a conscience still standing, pointedly noted that the decision by the MAGA GOP to deny Ukraine funding came on the 85th anniversary of Neville Chamberlain’s 1938 “peace in our time” speech.

It was an apt point. Just as Hitler saw Chamberlain’s weakness as the opening he was looking for, surely Vladimir Putin saw the GOP message for what it was, encouragement for his aggression and his war crimes from the Party of Trump, a clear signal that all he would have to do was wait until the next election cycle and if they won, a GOP-led U.S. would abandon Ukraine, our allies in Europe, and reward Putin’s brutality by extending his reach ever more deeply into the heart of Europe.

Democrats and a handful of more moderate Republicans promised in the wake of the deal that they would seek and expected to get a new supplemental bill that would ensure Ukraine aid continued to be funded.

Nobody is cheering the last-minute deal to keep the government open that cleared the House and then, late Saturday, the Senate. McCarthy, seen as weak before, is seen as even more spineless and at risk than he was. The reprieve that was won is only temporary. The future is uncertain. While the Biden administration and Democrats handled this as well as possible, it is clear that getting anything done in Congress will be very difficult. And while the lunatics from the GOP’s MAGA ward may have temporarily gained control of the congressional asylum, they damaged their tattered reputations even further by achieving not a single solitary thing for any of their supporters—any that is, except their cackling Russian patron whose Bond villain laughter from deep within his bunker home could be heard round the world by all who understand the menace and his Trumpist supporters represent.

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Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
Gaetz. Gaetz. Is he that sleazeball from Florida who hired one of Jeffrey Epstein's attorneys to help defend him against sex trafficking charges?