Do we have to put up with his shit for four years or can he be removed before then ? there is not going to be much left to salvage after he is done. Selling out Ukraine, WTF ??? A friend of mine claims at some point the military will stage a coup to remove him.

quote:

Originally posted by Grizzly Adams1:
Do we have to put up with his shit for four years or can he be removed before then ? there is not going to be much left to salvage after he is done. Selling out Ukraine, WTF ??? A friend of mine claims at some point the military will stage a coup to remove him.

The loyal nutjobs he appointed to his Cabinet are his firewall against the 25th Amendment. Impeachment again would be possible after 2026, if there are elections, but Republicans likely won't have grown the testicles to remove him.

quote:

Originally posted by Grizzly Adams1:
Do we have to put up with his shit for four years or can he be removed before then ? there is not going to be much left to salvage after he is done. Selling out Ukraine, WTF ??? A friend of mine claims at some point the military will stage a coup to remove him.

we got 9 years trudope they can enjoy a little of crazyness. it is their turn lol

LMAO... not quite 4 more years.
only 3 years and 11 months... as of tomorrow.

quote:

Originally posted by Grizzly Adams1:
Do we have to put up with his shit for four years or can he be removed before then ? there is not going to be much left to salvage after he is done. Selling out Ukraine, WTF ??? A friend of mine claims at some point the military will stage a coup to remove him.

How about you Canadians take your turn as financier and policeman of the world!

We'll watch!


.

Exhibit #26,432:

Link

Exhibit #26,433:

Link

He very bravely sat on a plane, rather than bailing out, I guess...

trump is a convicted criminal. When you put a convicted criminal in a position of power, he will do....criminal things.

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:

quote:

Originally posted by Grizzly Adams1:
Do we have to put up with his shit for four years or can he be removed before then ? there is not going to be much left to salvage after he is done. Selling out Ukraine, WTF ??? A friend of mine claims at some point the military will stage a coup to remove him.

How about you Canadians take your turn as financier and policeman of the world!

We'll watch!


.

Cannot do worse than you cowards!

Get your sorry arse handed to you EVERY TIME!

Has the memory of running out of Kabul faded already?

. . . so are a good slug (pun intended) of his loyal sycophants.

World needed little bit of Trump, that’s for sure

The world certainly does not feel like a safer place after Putin has been given his seat back at the top table.

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:

quote:

Originally posted by Grizzly Adams1:
Do we have to put up with his shit for four years or can he be removed before then ? there is not going to be much left to salvage after he is done. Selling out Ukraine, WTF ??? A friend of mine claims at some point the military will stage a coup to remove him.

How about you Canadians take your turn as financier and policeman of the world!

We'll watch!


.

We've heard a nonsensical reply from one yappy furriner..... But no Canadians have yet to volunteer???????

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:

quote:

Originally posted by Grizzly Adams1:
Do we have to put up with his shit for four years or can he be removed before then ? there is not going to be much left to salvage after he is done. Selling out Ukraine, WTF ??? A friend of mine claims at some point the military will stage a coup to remove him.

How about you Canadians take your turn as financier and policeman of the world!

We'll watch!


.

We've heard a nonsensical reply from one yappy furriner..... But no Canadians have yet to volunteer???????

I always knew that you were a lover of mother Russia comrade Jim. You make me sick. Fucking sellout just like the orange turd that you worship.

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:

quote:

Originally posted by Grizzly Adams1:
Do we have to put up with his shit for four years or can he be removed before then ? there is not going to be much left to salvage after he is done. Selling out Ukraine, WTF ??? A friend of mine claims at some point the military will stage a coup to remove him.

How about you Canadians take your turn as financier and policeman of the world!

We'll watch!


.

Yep…Zelensky reckons he needs $250B right now. Get it up Canucks! Here is your chance!

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:

quote:

Originally posted by Grizzly Adams1:
Do we have to put up with his shit for four years or can he be removed before then ? there is not going to be much left to salvage after he is done. Selling out Ukraine, WTF ??? A friend of mine claims at some point the military will stage a coup to remove him.

How about you Canadians take your turn as financier and policeman of the world!

We'll watch!


.

Yep…Zelensky reckons he needs $250B right now. Get it up Canucks! Here is your chance!

Another Putin apologist...your a fucking traitor not a patriot Lane.

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:

quote:

Originally posted by Grizzly Adams1:
Do we have to put up with his shit for four years or can he be removed before then ? there is not going to be much left to salvage after he is done. Selling out Ukraine, WTF ??? A friend of mine claims at some point the military will stage a coup to remove him.

How about you Canadians take your turn as financier and policeman of the world!

We'll watch!


.

Yep…Zelensky reckons he needs $250B right now. Get it up Canucks! Here is your chance!

Another Putin apologist...your a fucking traitor not a patriot Lane.

It’s only a measly $250B. Isn’t that how people in government say it these days??? Chump change right? Just trying to give Canada a chance.

And yes Steve, my veins bleed red-white-and blue.

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:

quote:

Originally posted by Grizzly Adams1:
Do we have to put up with his shit for four years or can he be removed before then ? there is not going to be much left to salvage after he is done. Selling out Ukraine, WTF ??? A friend of mine claims at some point the military will stage a coup to remove him.

How about you Canadians take your turn as financier and policeman of the world!

We'll watch!


.

Yep…Zelensky reckons he needs $250B right now. Get it up Canucks! Here is your chance!

Another Putin apologist...your a fucking traitor not a patriot Lane.

It’s only a measly $250B. Isn’t that how people in government say it these days??? Chump change right? Just trying to give Canada a chance.

And yes Steve, my veins bleed red-white-and blue.

Just red from what I can see Lane, Russian commie red is what you bleed. You and the orange turd, Putin apologists and traitors both.

Hmm, Steve
If you don't bleed red, you need to see a doctor asap

quote:

Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Hmm, Steve
If you don't bleed red, you need to see a doctor asap

Are you another that fully supports Putin? Abandoning 80 years of consistent foreign policy and our allies in favor of embracing Russia? Seem like a good move to you Jeffe?


Pretty sure that Lane's love of mother Russia will keep him bleeding commie red for the foreseeable future, no worries about that.

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:

quote:

Originally posted by Grizzly Adams1:
Do we have to put up with his shit for four years or can he be removed before then ? there is not going to be much left to salvage after he is done. Selling out Ukraine, WTF ??? A friend of mine claims at some point the military will stage a coup to remove him.

How about you Canadians take your turn as financier and policeman of the world!

We'll watch!


.

Yep…Zelensky reckons he needs $250B right now. Get it up Canucks! Here is your chance!

Another Putin apologist...your a fucking traitor not a patriot Lane.

It’s only a measly $250B. Isn’t that how people in government say it these days??? Chump change right? Just trying to give Canada a chance.

And yes Steve, my veins bleed red-white-and blue.

Just red from what I can see Lane, Russian commie red is what you bleed. You and the orange turd, Putin apologists and traitors both.

Good thing you aren’t a surgeon as your eyesight is obviously in jeopardy — sorry for that.

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:

quote:

Originally posted by Grizzly Adams1:
Do we have to put up with his shit for four years or can he be removed before then ? there is not going to be much left to salvage after he is done. Selling out Ukraine, WTF ??? A friend of mine claims at some point the military will stage a coup to remove him.

How about you Canadians take your turn as financier and policeman of the world!

We'll watch!


.

Yep…Zelensky reckons he needs $250B right now. Get it up Canucks! Here is your chance!

Another Putin apologist...your a fucking traitor not a patriot Lane.

It’s only a measly $250B. Isn’t that how people in government say it these days??? Chump change right? Just trying to give Canada a chance.

And yes Steve, my veins bleed red-white-and blue.

Just red from what I can see Lane, Russian commie red is what you bleed. You and the orange turd, Putin apologists and traitors both.

Good thing you aren’t a surgeon as your eyesight is obviously in jeopardy — sorry for that.

Nah, Lane bleeds green.$$$$$

Lane, you're good with cutting Ukraine loose? Let Putin take what he wants?

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
Lane, you're good with cutting Ukraine loose? Let Putin take what he wants?

I have wondered about that as well. Not just Lane, but all the other MAGA cheerleaders as well. I suspect you are as likely to get an answer to that as getting the MAGAts to address Trump's statement that he is free to ignore the law to "save" the country. Don't hold your breath.

Did you know that Ukraine held the third largest nuclear stockpile of weapons behind the US and Russia ???...this is a link to the "Budapest Memorandum " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum the cliff notes version is if Ukraine gave up its Nukes the U.S. would defend them ...Period...knowing the only threat would come from Russia...only dolt45 dosent read and constantly sides with Russia ,, One of the most despicable things i hate about King Cheeto is he thinks hes a Genius, but his only gift is talking trash about anyone,,making fun of someone ...even as low as mocking someone in a wheelchair ,,,now hes talking shit about Zelensky ,telling lies about him not popular ETC,,thats after he tried to blackmail Ukraine into giving 50% of their Minerals to the US,, So NOw the rest of the World see's the USA as a Mercenary country , no longer standing up for the little guy ,, we will but its going to cost ya ,,big time..

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:

quote:

Originally posted by Grizzly Adams1:
Do we have to put up with his shit for four years or can he be removed before then ? there is not going to be much left to salvage after he is done. Selling out Ukraine, WTF ??? A friend of mine claims at some point the military will stage a coup to remove him.

How about you Canadians take your turn as financier and policeman of the world!

We'll watch!


.

We've heard a nonsensical reply from one yappy furriner..... But no Canadians have yet to volunteer???????

I always knew that you were a lover of mother Russia comrade Jim. You make me sick. Fucking sellout just like the orange turd that you worship.

Yeah Steve.... So in other words, you got nothing!

Typical leftie.....name calling and vulgarity when you can't have any kind of sensible remark.....no wonder the democrats are done.

quote:

Budapest Memorandum

https://www.brookings.edu/arti...and-u-s-obligations/

The Budapest Memorandum and U.S. Obligations
Steven Pifer
December 4, 2014

(excerpt)

As many analysts note, Vladimir Putin may have more at stake in Ukraine than does the West. The United States, however, has a strong interest. That stems not just from twenty-three years of bilateral relations with Kyiv but from U.S. commitments in the Budapest memorandum.

When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, nuclear arms lay in sites scattered across the former Soviet republics. Ukraine inherited the third largest nuclear arsenal in the world, including some 1,900 strategic nuclear weapons designed to strike the United States.

Nothing in the post-Soviet space commanded more attention from the Bush 41 and Clinton administrations than making sure that the Soviet Union’s demise did not increase the number of nuclear-armed states. Washington brokered with Kyiv and Moscow the terms under which Ukraine agreed to eliminate the strategic missiles, missile silos and bombers on its territory and transfer the 1,900 nuclear warheads to Russia for disassembly.

A key element of the arrangement—many Ukrainians would say the key element—was the readiness of the United States and Russia, joined by Britain, to provide security assurances. The Budapest memorandum committed Washington, Moscow and London, among other things, to “respect the independence and sovereignty and existing borders of Ukraine” and to “refrain from the threat or use of force” against that country.

The Kremlin has violated those commitments. Using soldiers in Russian combat fatigues without identifying insignia, whom Mr. Putin later admitted were Russian, Moscow seized Crimea in March.

=================================================

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum

2014 Russian annexation of Crimea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...annexation_of_Crimea

2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..._invasion_of_Ukraine

Analysis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/..._Memorandum#Analysis

================================================

https://www.brookings.edu/arti...octrine-and-ukraine/

The Obama Doctrine and Ukraine
Steven Pifer and John Herbst
March 18, 2016

quote:

Originally posted by Penetrater:
Did you know that Ukraine held the third largest nuclear stockpile of weapons behind the US and Russia ???...this is a link to the "Budapest Memorandum " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum the cliff notes version is if Ukraine gave up its Nukes the U.S. would defend them ...Period...knowing the only threat would come from Russia...only dolt45 dosent read and constantly sides with Russia ,, One of the most despicable things i hate about King Cheeto is he thinks hes a Genius, but his only gift is talking trash about anyone,,making fun of someone ...even as low as mocking someone in a wheelchair ,,,now hes talking shit about Zelensky ,telling lies about him not popular ETC,,thats after he tried to blackmail Ukraine into giving 50% of their Minerals to the US,, So NOw the rest of the World see's the USA as a Mercenary country , no longer standing up for the little guy ,, we will but its going to cost ya ,,big time..

It’s not as one sided as people think but of course when you say that about that particular conflict, people,jump on you like fly on shit
Interesting observation and you would think that we are civilized and fairly smart and educated people and we were all taught to see things from several different views right?

When it comes to Dems, different opinion might get you damn near stoned to death ( not with weed tough )
Dems got downright scary last few years

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

quote:

Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Hmm, Steve
If you don't bleed red, you need to see a doctor asap

Are you another that fully supports Putin? Abandoning 80 years of consistent foreign policy and our allies in favor of embracing Russia? Seem like a good move to you Jeffe?


Pretty sure that Lane's love of mother Russia will keep him bleeding commie red for the foreseeable future, no worries about that.

Wow... human blood is red... there is no mention of putin or the other stuff you have conflated with my post. Literally nothing to do with my post.

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:

quote:

Originally posted by Grizzly Adams1:
Do we have to put up with his shit for four years or can he be removed before then ? there is not going to be much left to salvage after he is done. Selling out Ukraine, WTF ??? A friend of mine claims at some point the military will stage a coup to remove him.

How about you Canadians take your turn as financier and policeman of the world!

We'll watch!


.

We've heard a nonsensical reply from one yappy furriner..... But no Canadians have yet to volunteer???????

I always knew that you were a lover of mother Russia comrade Jim. You make me sick. Fucking sellout just like the orange turd that you worship.

Yeah Steve.... So in other words, you got nothing!

Typical leftie.....name calling and vulgarity when you can't have any kind of sensible remark.....no wonder the democrats are done.

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
Lane, you're good with cutting Ukraine loose? Let Putin take what he wants?

While we are on the subject of nothing Jim, how about weighing in the foregoing?

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:

quote:

Originally posted by Grizzly Adams1:
Do we have to put up with his shit for four years or can he be removed before then ? there is not going to be much left to salvage after he is done. Selling out Ukraine, WTF ??? A friend of mine claims at some point the military will stage a coup to remove him.

How about you Canadians take your turn as financier and policeman of the world!

We'll watch!


.

Yep…Zelensky reckons he needs $250B right now. Get it up Canucks! Here is your chance!

They are all busy counting the change in their piggy banks right now......getting ready to ask China for a loan!

That's what they expect us to do.......


.

. . . more nothing.

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:

quote:

Originally posted by Grizzly Adams1:
Do we have to put up with his shit for four years or can he be removed before then ? there is not going to be much left to salvage after he is done. Selling out Ukraine, WTF ??? A friend of mine claims at some point the military will stage a coup to remove him.

How about you Canadians take your turn as financier and policeman of the world!

We'll watch!


.

Yep…Zelensky reckons he needs $250B right now. Get it up Canucks! Here is your chance!

Another Putin apologist...your a fucking traitor not a patriot Lane.

It’s only a measly $250B. Isn’t that how people in government say it these days??? Chump change right? Just trying to give Canada a chance.

And yes Steve, my veins bleed red-white-and blue.

Steve? You can send all your money! Write a check man, screw all that dealing in high end guns, give Ukraine all your money! Hell take out a loan and borrow some money to send to Ukraine too!!

I know, I know I'm a communist, fascist, misogynist and several other ists.....cause I'm much more worried about taking care of American citizens.....

quote:

Originally posted by Lamar:
LMAO... not quite 4 more years.
only 3 years and 11 months... as of tomorrow.

or ever for the better if trump find a loophole with his buddy judges and you are getting the lovely south african ...

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

quote:

Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Hmm, Steve
If you don't bleed red, you need to see a doctor asap

Are you another that fully supports Putin? Abandoning 80 years of consistent foreign policy and our allies in favor of embracing Russia? Seem like a good move to you Jeffe?


Pretty sure that Lane's love of mother Russia will keep him bleeding commie red for the foreseeable future, no worries about that.

How much debt has the united states of America incurred protecting Europe from Russia Steve?????

While Europe is steadily enriching Russia by purchasing their energy from russia????? Russia would dry up and blow away if Europe didn't buy their gas and oil.....

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:

quote:

Originally posted by Grizzly Adams1:
Do we have to put up with his shit for four years or can he be removed before then ? there is not going to be much left to salvage after he is done. Selling out Ukraine, WTF ??? A friend of mine claims at some point the military will stage a coup to remove him.

How about you Canadians take your turn as financier and policeman of the world!

We'll watch!


.

we never claimed to be or wanted to be ... but it seems it will harder for your country to be trusted and you should focus on your own issues and fixes all your walls to make sure you cannot escape ...

quote:

Originally posted by MJines:

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:

quote:

Originally posted by Grizzly Adams1:
Do we have to put up with his shit for four years or can he be removed before then ? there is not going to be much left to salvage after he is done. Selling out Ukraine, WTF ??? A friend of mine claims at some point the military will stage a coup to remove him.

How about you Canadians take your turn as financier and policeman of the world!

We'll watch!


.

We've heard a nonsensical reply from one yappy furriner..... But no Canadians have yet to volunteer???????

I always knew that you were a lover of mother Russia comrade Jim. You make me sick. Fucking sellout just like the orange turd that you worship.

Yeah Steve.... So in other words, you got nothing!

Typical leftie.....name calling and vulgarity when you can't have any kind of sensible remark.....no wonder the democrats are done.

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
Lane, you're good with cutting Ukraine loose? Let Putin take what he wants?

While we are on the subject of nothing Jim, how about weighing in the foregoing?

No Mike, I dont think we ought to cut them loose. I think we should have complete accountability for our money and I think Europe should bear a much larger burden then we do.

Tell me mike? What is your position?

quote:

Originally posted by medved:

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:

quote:

Originally posted by Grizzly Adams1:
Do we have to put up with his shit for four years or can he be removed before then ? there is not going to be much left to salvage after he is done. Selling out Ukraine, WTF ??? A friend of mine claims at some point the military will stage a coup to remove him.

How about you Canadians take your turn as financier and policeman of the world!

We'll watch!


.

we never claimed to be or wanted to be ... but it seems it will harder for your country to be trusted and you should focus on your own issues and fixes all your walls to make sure you cannot escape ...

No. You expect us to be! More Canadian freeloading.....go figure...


.

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:

quote:

Originally posted by medved:

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:

quote:

Originally posted by Grizzly Adams1:
Do we have to put up with his shit for four years or can he be removed before then ? there is not going to be much left to salvage after he is done. Selling out Ukraine, WTF ??? A friend of mine claims at some point the military will stage a coup to remove him.

How about you Canadians take your turn as financier and policeman of the world!

We'll watch!


.

we never claimed to be or wanted to be ... but it seems it will harder for your country to be trusted and you should focus on your own issues and fixes all your walls to make sure you cannot escape ...

No. You expect us to be! More Canadian freeloading.....go figure...


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as of today you want our country... do not present yourself as the victim ... trump might believe putin but i doubt it will work with us lol

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by JTEX:

quote:

Originally posted by Grizzly Adams1:
Do we have to put up with his shit for four years or can he be removed before then ? there is not going to be much left to salvage after he is done. Selling out Ukraine, WTF ??? A friend of mine claims at some point the military will stage a coup to remove him.

How about you Canadians take your turn as financier and policeman of the world!

We'll watch!


.

Yep…Zelensky reckons he needs $250B right now. Get it up Canucks! Here is your chance!

Another Putin apologist...your a fucking traitor not a patriot Lane.

It’s only a measly $250B. Isn’t that how people in government say it these days??? Chump change right? Just trying to give Canada a chance.

And yes Steve, my veins bleed red-white-and blue.

Steve? You can send all your money! Write a check man, screw all that dealing in high end guns, give Ukraine all your money! Hell take out a loan and borrow some money to send to Ukraine too!!

I know, I know I'm a communist, fascist, misogynist and several other ists.....cause I'm much more worried about taking care of American citizens.....

Comrade Yakob,
I'm happy to pay more taxes to maintain a free world and stand by our allies. Yes, you are a communist supporter, but the most concerning "ist" that you are is a cultist, worshipping at the altar of the orange turd. Trump has destroyed our standing among our allies and turds like you support it. Fucking pathetic is what you are comrade.

If we are going to abandon Ukraine to Putin's tender mercies as Trump obviously intends, AND agree to the large reduction in nuclear forces Putin has convinced Trump is a good thing I think it is only fair that Ukraine be provided with the weapons systems and warheads we "reduce" up to the equivalent throw-weight they had before Budapest.