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This is over.

She can chase him around the country like Elmer Fudd after Bugs Bunny, but the end result is set.

To quote an important acquaintance, “ This election is what it is.”

This is going to play real well in the General Election.

https://www.washingtonpost.com...s-indicted-mug-shot/

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https://www.nytimes.com/intera...ublican-primary.html
 
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This is over.

She can chase him around the country like Elmer Fudd after Bugs Bunny, but the end result is set.

To quote an important acquaintance, “ This election is what it is.”

This is going to play real well in the General Election.

https://www.washingtonpost.com...s-indicted-mug-shot/

60 percent
https://www.nytimes.com/intera...ublican-primary.html


He didn't win BY 60, he won WITH 60, to Haley's 40.

He won BY 20.


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Correct.

Killed her either way.
 
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Correct.

Killed her either way.


If 59% of her voters mean it when they say they won't vote for him that's a quarter of Republicans in that State.


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She won 4 counties.
 
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She won 4 counties.


Must have been the Counties with people.


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"I have never seen the Republican Party so unified as it is right now."

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Seriously, what happens when Trump is convicted? The GOP needs a Nikki.


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Conviction does not in and of itself bar him from Office.

He will be granted bond pending appeal.

Assuming, all appeals are exhausted and the S. Ct., allows a setting president to go to prison, Congress will have to impeach him.

The other option is a Cabinet invokes the 25th Amendment due to his disability of being incarcerated.

The Supreme Court may be set to give the House another tool in the form of the Insurrection Clause vote to vacate. This would appear given the one historical example I can find, to trigger another election that President Trump can run in.

Congress would not have to wait on the appeals to become exhausted. I just do not think they will do anything until appeals are so.
 
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The Trumpeteers are, in one respect, much like the supporters of Hillary Clinton in 2016; they just don't believe how repugnant their candidate is to the non-believers. In both cases, the choice of a presidential candidate went beyond partisan politics. The election will come down to which party has the most who decline to vote. "None of the above", if an option, would do very well this time around. Regards, Bill
 
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Even worse is trying to convince them that he is responsible for his behavior and all of the charges against him. Then they always deflect to well Biden did such and such. Even if true just because Joe did it doesn't mean that trump can do it. Try to tell them that if trump had simply returned the documents when asked that there likely would have been no further action. I wonder if the FBI had the good sense to seize any copy machines at MAL since AFAIK many retain an image of what was copied.


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"I have never seen the Republican Party so unified as it is right now."

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Once the dissenters are purged as RINOs, what's left is unified by definition.
Will that be enough to win an election?


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Nikki needs to stay in. The result was never in question. The MAGA morons still own the Republican Party and they like taking it in the butt. They will vote for their Orange Jesus whether he is the worse piece of shit on the planet. They have no free will. They have gone too far down the rabbit hole for too long.

Nikki may be the answer after the MAGA morons get the shit kicked out of them again, or Orange Jesus dies. Good for her. Ron from Florida folded like a cheap suit. He has no future.
 
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But he LOST by 40%!

Those who voted for the Bimbo did it not because they like her.

Because they HATE TRUMP! clap


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But he LOST by 40%!

Those who voted for the Bimbo did it not because they like her.

Because they HATE TRUMP! clap


Exactly, and the vast majority voted FOR him when he lost in 2020.

Without them he's not even competitive.


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From what I see, the more the Dims persecute Trump with civil and criminal cases, the more entrenched his base becomes.
 
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From what I see, the more the Dims persecute Trump with civil and criminal cases, the more entrenched his base becomes.


And smaller.

If he was being persecuted rather than prosecuted wouldn't he win one?


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Saber metrics coming out of SC are not general election favorable.
 
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The best thing that Biden has going for him is the hard core Trump supporters. Unless something major happens the outcome of the next election is not that hard to predict. No matter what happens to Trump legally the hard core are going to push him though to be the GOP candidate so the election is going to be Biden vs. Trump part 2.

The last election the numbers were real close, about 40% of the registered voters are GOP and about 40% are democrats and about 20% independent. The two parties voted right down party lines so each got 40% and the 20% independents split almost right down the middle also with the slight edge going Biden and thus he won by a very small margin, something like 49.5 to 50.5%.

What I see happening this election is the two parties are going to spit again pretty close so 40% and the elections again will be decided by the independents. this time I see more of the independents deciding to go with Biden but not by a big amount. My guess would be 70/30 split so overall I would expect the numbers to be somewhere around 53% Biden and 47% Trump.

If the GOP would get off the Trump cult and get just about any other reasonable candidate I think they would have a chance at beating Biden but the Trump core just cannot see that by pushing Trump forward at any cost is going to cost them the election in November.
 
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Actually, Haley getting pretty near 40% is better than she had been polling.

I do think Trump fatigue is going to hurt Biden more than anything. Despite the best efforts, the continual attempt to have a relatively irrelevant politician’s misdeeds be issue number 1 instead of what the current occupant is doing is going to numb the folks that dislike trump. They may not vote for him, but 10 years straight of how orange man had being the main issue in the papers and political shows is fatiguing.

Heck, I suspect Trump coverage more than doubles Biden coverage, despite Biden being POTUS.

Note this is not saying Trump is good. It’s saying that harping on his misdeeds continually even while he’s not in office tends to make the average person tune it all out.

Frankly, other than some really wealthy folks, I don’t know anyone who thinks they are better off economically now.

Inflation has raised prices dramatically, and wages have not caught up, and while the markets may be at all time highs, most of us don’t see 20-30% increases in our 401k’s to offset the total inflation over the last 4 years.
 
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Actually, Haley getting pretty near 40% is better than she had been polling.

I do think Trump fatigue is going to hurt Biden more than anything. Despite the best efforts, the continual attempt to have a relatively irrelevant politician’s misdeeds be issue number 1 instead of what the current occupant is doing is going to numb the folks that dislike trump. They may not vote for him, but 10 years straight of how orange man had being the main issue in the papers and political shows is fatiguing.

How is the presumptive nominee of a major Party "irrelevant"? Which of his crimes should folks not be mentioning, the sexual assault, the fraud, stealing classified documents or trying to overthrow the Constitution?

Heck, I suspect Trump coverage more than doubles Biden coverage, despite Biden being POTUS.

Note this is not saying Trump is good. It’s saying that harping on his misdeeds continually even while he’s not in office tends to make the average person tune it all out.
He announced he was running in November of 2022.

Frankly, other than some really wealthy folks, I don’t know anyone who thinks they are better off economically now.

I suspect a lot of the 14 million who have jobs now would disagree.

Inflation has raised prices dramatically, and wages have not caught up, and while the markets may be at all time highs, most of us don’t see 20-30% increases in our 401k’s to offset the total inflation over the last 4 years.

You are almost delusional enough for a MAGAt card.


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Gas is 2.70 for regular. 2.58 in my hometown.

Inflation was horrible. It has gotten significantly better from that horrible.
 
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have a relatively irrelevant politician’s misdeeds be issue number 1



This, this is why you are not a person to take serious.

It is not that you dislike, or disagree w President Biden.

It is your continued mitigation, and exude making seen above.

The usually will be along to tell us this child’s death is not the fault of those who beat the person to death.
 
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Actually, Haley getting pretty near 40% is better than she had been polling.

I do think Trump fatigue is going to hurt Biden more than anything. Despite the best efforts, the continual attempt to have a relatively irrelevant politician’s misdeeds be issue number 1 instead of what the current occupant is doing is going to numb the folks that dislike trump. They may not vote for him, but 10 years straight of how orange man had being the main issue in the papers and political shows is fatiguing.

Heck, I suspect Trump coverage more than doubles Biden coverage, despite Biden being POTUS.

Note this is not saying Trump is good. It’s saying that harping on his misdeeds continually even while he’s not in office tends to make the average person tune it all out.

Frankly, other than some really wealthy folks, I don’t know anyone who thinks they are better off economically now.

Inflation has raised prices dramatically, and wages have not caught up, and while the markets may be at all time highs, most of us don’t see 20-30% increases in our 401k’s to offset the total inflation over the last 4 years.


Wow. Barring some extraordinary event, trump will be your party's nominee for POTUS and you think he is a "relatively irrelevant politician?" And, I wouldn't describe sedition as a "misdeed."

Confused


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Get with it.

He was relatively irrelevant from 1/20 until 11/22 when he declared he was a candidate for president again.

Yes, now he’s relevant, but I do think that the constant use of him to take attention away from the current POTUS until that time says what?

Also when we had 3-4 serious GOP candidates, who got the majority of the press attention?

All of you are missing the point- Trump is in front because the left and the media kept him in front, probably as a distraction.

The show business aphorism about there being no bad press as long as you are in the news seems to be missing you guys.


Hell, you all wouldn’t admit there was a problem at the border until recently… when it finally started getting some front page news headlines because Abbott started shipping them to sanctuary cities.
 
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Get with it.

He was relatively irrelevant from 1/20 until 11/22 when he declared he was a candidate for president again.

Yes, now he’s relevant, but I do think that the constant use of him to take attention away from the current POTUS until that time says what?

Also when we had 3-4 serious GOP candidates, who got the majority of the press attention?

All of you are missing the point- Trump is in front because the left and the media kept him in front, probably as a distraction.

The show business aphorism about there being no bad press as long as you are in the news seems to be missing you guys.


Hell, you all wouldn’t admit there was a problem at the border until recently… when it finally started getting some front page news headlines because Abbott started shipping them to sanctuary cities.


"Get with it"?

Try again.

trump is the republican frontrunner because the republicans have lost their collective minds. Blaming the Dems or the media is straight-up horseshit. trump runs a cult and cult members don't listen to anybody but the cult leader.


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And why have the average GOP voter lost their minds?

Look, I agree with you that Trump is bad.

You are refusing to acknowledge that group psychology is playing a role here that your side contributed to.

Is it solely the media or the Democrats? No.

But frankly, with the continual drumbeat it tends to harden attitudes.

Yes in the end it’s the person voting for the guy. I think that the right sided voters are convincing themselves that more folks like Trump than not.

But…

The folks who are pro trump are pretty worked up.

The folks who are voting anti trump are probably fatigued with hearing about him.

That Trump gets the @50% support when he’s as bad as portrayed says that the folks attacking him are doing something wrong.

IMO it’s backing a guy who in his own way is as unpalatable to the public.

What would this race be like if it was Manchin vs. Haley?
 
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This is over.

She can chase him around the country like Elmer Fudd after Bugs Bunny, but the end result is set.

To quote an important acquaintance, “ This election is what it is.”

This is going to play real well in the General Election.

https://www.washingtonpost.com...s-indicted-mug-shot/

60 percent
https://www.nytimes.com/intera...ublican-primary.html


He didn't win BY 60, he won WITH 60, to Haley's 40.

He won BY 20.


i know math is hard on you -- but you do admit to being gooder at reading comprehension -- no one said, but you, "by 60" --

though, 60/40 is a 50% margin ...

you know, sarge, the math they use in peckerwood county should always be mistrusted

btw, i am surprised it was one-sided - i had HOPED (not expected) Nikki to have had a stronger showing .. i do keep hope that the GOP will flush the trump bowl and have a gooder thought


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What would this race be like if it was Manchin vs. Haley?[/QUOTE]

Better?


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Manchin AND Haley? same ticket?


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Manchin v Haley
Manchin.

Msnchin and Haley as a third party option is still a losing play for that ticket.
 
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What would this race be like if it was Manchin vs. Haley?


Better?[/QUOTE]

Exactly.

The point being either one wins and we are better off than we have been for quite some time now.
 
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This is over.

She can chase him around the country like Elmer Fudd after Bugs Bunny, but the end result is set.

To quote an important acquaintance, “ This election is what it is.”

This is going to play real well in the General Election.

https://www.washingtonpost.com...s-indicted-mug-shot/

60 percent
https://www.nytimes.com/intera...ublican-primary.html


He didn't win BY 60, he won WITH 60, to Haley's 40.

He won BY 20.


i know math is hard on you -- but you do admit to being gooder at reading comprehension -- no one said, but you, "by 60" --

though, 60/40 is a 50% margin ...

you know, sarge, the math they use in peckerwood county should always be mistrusted

btw, i am surprised it was one-sided - i had HOPED (not expected) Nikki to have had a stronger showing .. i do keep hope that the GOP will flush the trump bowl and have a gooder thought


You pig-ignorant piece of crap, he edited the Title after I pointed out to him that it said "BY 60".


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I did edit the title.

Jeffries pointed out it was 60 to 40
 
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I did edit the title.

Jeffries pointed out it was 60 to 40


Wasn't anything wrong with correcting it.


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I was just confirming. This ain’t on you, but me.
 
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