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Okay, it’s FOX so half the folks here won’t believe any part of it, but my relatives in the mountains of North and South Carolina relate that the racist and woke policies (their words) of FEMA have little to do with need and everything to do with skin color. I hope they’re wrong, but the published policies make one wonder. https://www.foxnews.com/politi...ge-embarrassment.amp JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous. | ||
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So, from your article, here are the general stated goals: The number one goal listed in the agency's priorities is to "instill equity as a foundation of emergency management." The second goal is "Lead Whole of Community in Climate Resilience" and the third goal is "Promote & Sustain a Ready FEMA & Prepared Nation." According to FEMA's plan, "Diversity, equity, and inclusion cannot be optional." What's the problem again? Specifically? What exactly is FEMA doing that is racist? And, by the way: my in-laws live 20 minutes from Asheville and are right in the middle of it. They're telling me that the relief efforts have proven difficult because of terrain, washed-out roads, no electricity or running water and on and on. They also tell me from direct experience that the state and federal government response has been "all hands on deck" doing everything possible that can be done. Politicizing this catastrophe with lies in order to get your idiot cult leader elected is truly pretty despicable. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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“People are saying”…”A lot of people are telling me…” - where have we heard that kind of innuendo and aspersion before? Avoid specifics at all cost, just utter racist statements and feed the racism of those already so inclined. The Trumpian Kool Aid factory is pumping their toxic shit out by the tanker load these days, they’re so terrified that “them there spics and niggers is taking over, y’all!” It seems there are already three parties in the American political arena - Democrats, Republicans, and the Trump Cult. They really ought to have all three on the ballot. | |||
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This whole disaster has been politicized from the git go. Pathetic… Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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From what I've seen everything that can be done is being done, from the Office of the President down to the Department of Defense and FEMA. As for politics, it wasn't Democrats who tried to shut the Federal government down just before Helene made landfall to give Trump a talking point, and Democrats didn't vote against FEMA funding. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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If you don’t recognize the racism of EQUITY as defined by the woke Biden/Harris administration as compared to Martin King’s EQUALITY, you need to learn the difference. But, TDS probably will make that impossible.
JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous. | |||
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So....explain to us again what FEMA is doing that you object to? I guess I don't understand the issue that has your panties all wadded up because you really haven't explained it very well. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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Don't you see it, right there, they used a panty-wadding word! "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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I see where this crap is coming from: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...04fb1d7c59bd2&ei=100 No, Biden didn’t take FEMA relief money to use on migrants — but Trump did Story by Glenn Kessler • 7h • 4 min read “The Harris-Biden administration says they don’t have any money [for hurricane relief]. … They spent it all on illegal migrants. … They stole the FEMA money just like they stole it from a bank, so they could give it to their illegal immigrants that they want to have vote for them.” — Former president Donald Trump, remarks at a campaign rally in Saginaw, Mich., Oct. 3 Trump has been trying to weaponize the Hurricane Helene relief efforts, accusing the Biden administration of failing to provide adequate assistance. As part of his critique, he claims there is no money available for hurricane relief because it was spent already to handle the surge of migrants at the southern border. “They stole the FEMA money just like they stole it from a bank,” Trump charged, referring to the Federal Emergency Management Agency, adding in the additional falsehood that Vice President Kamala Harris wants illegal immigrants to vote for her. As we have explained many times before, this would be against the law and there is no evidence to support this claim. Trump’s claims have been echoed by his supporters, such as billionaire Elon Musk. But Trump is completely wrong. Even though Trump was once president, he still appears to have little clue about the appropriations process. What’s even richer is that when he was president, he did exactly what he claims Biden did — take money from FEMA’s disaster fund to fund migrant programs at the southern border. The Facts FEMA is part of the Department of Homeland Security. On Wednesday, DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas told reporters: “We are meeting the immediate needs with the money that we have. We are expecting another hurricane hitting. FEMA does not have the funds to make it through the season.” He emphasized there was plenty of money to deal with the current disaster. “We are meeting the moment,” he said, adding: “We have the immediate needs right now. On a continuing resolution, we have funds, but that is not a stable source of supply, if you will.” Congress, as part of a short-term spending bill, recently provided $20 billion to the FEMA disaster relief fund. But Mayorkas noted: “That doesn’t speak about the future and the fact, as I mentioned earlier, that these extreme weather events are increasing in frequency and severity, and we have to be funded for the sake of the American people. This is not a political issue.” In other words, Trump falsely claimed that there is no money left for Hurricane Helene survivors. That’s the opposite of what Mayorkas said. “FEMA has what it needs for immediate response and recovery efforts,” FEMA spokeswoman Jaclyn Rothenberg said on X. “As [FEMA Administrator Deanne Criswell] said, she has the full authority to spend against the President’s budget, but we’re not out of hurricane season yet so we need to keep a close eye on it. We may need to go back into immediate needs funding and we will be watching it closely.” So how does Trump link this to migrants? A Trump campaign spokesman pointed to FEMA’s Shelter and Services Program, which gives grants to local governments and nonprofits to take care of undocumented immigrants. Congress boosted the budget from $360 million in fiscal year 2023 to $650 million in fiscal year 2024. The program’s 2023 annual report says it provides shelter, such as hotel/motel services, food and transportation, including plane tickets up to $700 a person. As we said, Congress appropriated this money, just as it did the disaster fund. There’s no evidence that any money from the disaster fund was used to help migrants. “These claims are completely false,” DHS said in a statement Thursday night. “As Secretary Mayorkas said, FEMA has the necessary resources to meet the immediate needs associated with Hurricane Helene and other disasters. The Shelter and Services Program (SSP) is a completely separate, appropriated grant program that was authorized and funded by Congress and is not associated in any way with FEMA’s disaster-related authorities or funding streams.” Trump has a habit of assuming other politicians act in the same way as he would. So we wondered why he would accuse Biden of raiding the FEMA disaster fund to handle undocumented migrants. It turns out that’s because he did this. In 2019, the Trump administration, in the middle of hurricane season, told Congress that it was taking $271 million from DHS programs, including $155 million from the disaster fund, to pay for immigration detention space and temporary hearing locations for asylum seekers who had been forced to wait in Mexico. “The U.S. is facing a security and humanitarian crisis on the Southern border,” the administration said in its notice that it was redirecting the funds. The monthly reports issued by the FEMA disaster fund show $38 million was plucked and given to Immigration and Customs Enforcement in August that year — just before the prime storm period of September and October. The Trump campaign did not respond to questions about Trump’s actions in 2019. The Pinocchio Test Trump falsely claims FEMA has run out of disaster money — and then falsely says that’s because money instead was spent on migrants. There is no evidence the Biden administration spent FEMA disaster money on migrants. Rather, that’s what Trump did. He earns Four Pinocchios. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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“Equity” is a perversion of a word that used to mean the proportion of value that results by contribution other than contributions to purchase price. Perhaps one partner puts up the purchase price in a house and obtains sole legal title. The other partner enhances the house, doubling the value, markets it and it is sold for twice the original purchase price. Ignoring some of the complications of partnerships, the second partner has earned an equitable value in the house, and at the time of the sale would quite likely receive a distribution according to his non-purchase monetary contribution, even though he did not hold legal title. Woke equity translate that you deserve compensation and priority treatment, not because you made a contribution to the status quo at the time of loss, but you get compensation and priority because of color and the inherent unfairness of all white people. JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous. | |||
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Just as there’s no evidence to support the vast majority of Trump’s claims. The kool aid must be really tasty…. Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend… To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP | |||
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According to the judge, Merriam-Webster is perverting words now. Lordy!!!! Equity Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster The meaning of EQUITY is fairness or justice in the way people are treated; often, specifically : freedom from disparities in the way people of different races, genders, … It's equity vs disenfranchisement. https://www.merriam-webster.co...vs-equity-difference ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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MAGAts can only handle words having one meaning, preferably one about making money. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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To Democrats DEI means Diversity, Equity, Inclusion as national and cultural value. To Republicans it means Disenfranchisement, Exclusion, Inequity as a national and cultural mandate - for tradition's sake, of course. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...4e71ba58e10e5&ei=145 ‘Smoking gun’: Trump refused disaster relief until he learned it helped GOP voters, ex-aides say https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...4e71ba58e10e5&ei=166 Trump's politicized lies about Helene recovery calls to mind his abysmal record handling disasters ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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The OP post was based on reports from Fox News, the lie affirmation division machine. That's the first mistake and perhaps the only one that counts. Choose your affirmations carefully. ================================ https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...4e6663c84cb734&ei=30 As Trump makes false claims about hurricane relief, White House calls it ‘poison’ Story by Sabrina Rodriguez, Justine McDaniel • 19h • 7 min read EVANS, Ga. — Former president Donald Trump doubled down on misinformation about Hurricane Helene in an appearance in this storm-ravaged state Friday, repeating the falsehood that the White House used disaster funds for migrants. Speaking at a news conference after a state disaster briefing, Trump again falsely said the U.S. government is unable to fund the storm response because it used the money on people “who came into the country illegally” — claims that the White House slammed in a memo Friday as “poison.” Trump’s comments that the White House is “missing $1 billion” that was used for migrants, as he said Friday, have created a swirl of misinformation around the Helene response. The White House warned Friday that the falsehoods could keep hurricane victims from seeking the assistance they critically need, and the Federal Emergency Management Agency launched an anti-rumor tool that counters Trump’s claims. The Biden administration said in its memo — which did not name Trump but included a headline that did — that Republicans are spreading “bald-faced lies” about the hurricane response and are “using Hurricane Helene to lie and divide us.” “It is paramount that every leader, whatever their political beliefs, stops spreading this poison,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates wrote in the memo, adding: “This isn’t about politics — it’s about helping people.” ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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Trump's longest-lasting legacy will be that he trained his MAGAts without morals or scruples that lies are just fine if you think you derive some political benefit from them. If it diverts emergency services to respond to a hoax that's just a price the scum is willing for someone else to pay. Hillary was being charitable when she called them deplorables. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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Search on: "FEMA issues statement about disinformation" Results: https://www.bing.com/search?q=...e71ba58e10e5&pc=DCTS One in particular: https://www.fema.gov/press-rel...ts-related-hurricane FEMA Launches Web Page to Respond to Rumors and Confirm the Facts Related to Hurricane Helene Response and Recovery Also: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...YlX?ocid=socialshare FEMA warns of Helene misinformation, launches ‘rumor response’ page =========================================== This shouldn't be necessary. And importantly, Fox News is a major contributor to dis/misinformation. ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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How an agency which has as a mandate to help deal with emergencies can claim their ultimate duty is equity is a crock. Their duty as a federal agency is emergency management. How much time and taxpayer money was wasted coming up with those politically correct platitudes? FEMA’s duty is emergency relief, not equity, inclusion, etc. They do have to follow federal law. So why waste time and money bleating about something utterly unrelated to emergency management? Are they going to refuse help to some folks and give extra to others based on their purpose statement? I doubt it, given that would violate a bunch of other laws. Aren’t you leftists against redundancy? Or only when it’s politically correct? | |||
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This Country has a LONG history of treating different communities differently after disasters, you don't have to look that far back to see the difference in how the French Quarter was treated compared to the Ninth Ward. When people need help after a disaster the government should do all it can for those in need without regard to the race or ethnicity, their tax bracket or their immigration status OR ANYTHING ELSE but need. Including Equity in the mission statement says just that with far fewer words. You MAGAts must lie awake at night scared somebody you don't like is going to get help. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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Now here's two very different reports. I'm very inclined to NOT believe anything Fox reports. What do Ya'll think? What do you know as factual? https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...ZAf?ocid=socialshare CNN ‘That is not true’: Kaitlan Collins debunks Trump’s comments about FEMA and migrants https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...CY3?ocid=socialshare Biden, Harris have done the ‘exact opposite’ of Trump with FEMA funds: Ken Cuccinelli Former Acting DHS Deputy Secretary Ken Cuccinelli discusses concern ============================================== https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...a4289366fcb24d&ei=11 False claims about the federal response to Helene are an ominous sign for the coming election ************* Real conservatives aren't radicalized. Thus "radicalized conservative" is an oxymoron. Yet there are many radicalized republicans. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks" D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal. | |||
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DEI is as stupid as Black Lives Matter! It is racist, stupid, giving advantages to losers! | |||
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I agree with Saeed with a caveat: I’d add that DEI is a calculated Democrat scheme to dupe people of color into believing that they are victims and thereby keep them on the racist plantation. Most Democrats are so stupid that they unwittingly play the useful idiot role, encouraging the lie that folks of color are incapable of using the tools that the good Lord and the Constitution give/gave them. Sheeplike, Democrats (often with good intent but without thought) believe Joe Biden’s hateful and racist stereotype “If you don’t vote for me, you’re not Black.” What a sad and bitter world to live in that requires patronizing and judgment of others on the basis of skin color instead of Character. As a young volunteer, I spent a day in Albany, GA with MLK, Jr. My Grandfather went to seminary with Sr. and both were leaders of communities of faith in Atlanta. (My “in” to meet Jr.) Of course I can’t talk to the three, but I don’t think they’d be very happy with the Democrat DEI policies of color before character.
JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous. | |||
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I always find it odd that it's the privileged and advantaged folks who opine that things like DEI are racist. And, I find it hilarious that morons like the good Judge think that black folks would have a single reason in the world to vote for any republican. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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Polls are showing a higher % than the past are voting R. Not every black is a Dem. | |||
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That's because in the past, virtually none voted R. I'll be willing to bet that Harris wins a higher percentage of the black vote than Biden did in 2020. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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It is funny how it seems that the only people talking about black support for trump are white MAGATs. https://www.facebook.com/reel/2907846269369152 -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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I will be curious too Mike. The polls I have seen say she gets less. Mostly "they" claim, because black men do not see a black woman as presidential material. Or, maybe she's not black enough? | |||
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We got a serious mental problem going on with these lunatics.. | |||
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That would explain why the only black man elected President was a Democrat, and why the first black woman likely will be. Keepin' them on that plantation... "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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Yeah, it is an interesting question. It seems like maybe the polls have shown a slight up-tick in support for trump among young black men. Maybe. But, it won't make a difference. People of color still overwhelmingly reject trump per every poll I have seen. trump's problem isn't a lack of support from blacks. It's the women that are gonna do him in this time around...white, black, green, purple or yellow. He screwed the pooch listening to the loony tune evangelicals like Dr. Easter getting Roe overturned. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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Only partly Roe. He's just doesnt treat women properly. | |||
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Perhaps young Black males are beginng to understand the patronizing religion of the Democrat party and are finally disgusted as being treated as permanently incompetent and naive children. Kamala Harris, in her confusing method of communication, has stated “equity” (the new definition) as a goal. This is not her quote, btw, but a pretty good example of the ploy of co-opting the definition of a good word with a real meaning to a definition that fulfills an agenda. “Equity: This word is commonly understood to mean fairness or justice, but it is now used by activists to mean something much more specific: equality of outcomes between different racial groups. When you hear activists demand “equity,” what they’re actually saying is that the basic American value of equality of opportunity — that the rules should apply equally to everyone, regardless of race — is racist, because equality of opportunity doesn’t always produce equality of results. The solution is “equity,” or attempting to achieve equality of results through discrimination. An example of “equity” is the adoption by elite universities of quotas that deny admission to highly-qualified Asian students in order to reduce the proportion of Asians in the student body, regardless of academic merit.” In other words, it’s systematic racism in the DNC’s platform. JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous. | |||
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So, not her words, not the DNC's words, but words a sham "grass roots" organization (Parents Defending Education) linked to the loons at "Moms for Liberty" and largely financed by Koch money put together to represent the positions of a Candidate and a Committee, both perfectly capable and willing to say exactly what they mean. In other words, liars like you. Equity is a word, as is equality; each has a distinct meaning. They are not interchangeable unlike, say, Melania Trump and Laura Loomer. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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I apologize. I had thought you had listened to extant tapes of Kamala defining her “equity” agenda. I’m sorry that I presumed you actually paid attention to who she is and what she stands for. https://www.foxnews.com/video/6360423204112
JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous. | |||
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I know what she's said, and what she's for; let me try to make it so simple even you can grasp it. Think of a race, a one-miler, with three "runners", Biff, Jerome and Jose. At the starting gun all three take off, Biff on a bicycle, Jerome barefoot and Jose dragging a small log behind him. At the quarter-mile mark Biff has to dismount, Jerome can put on shoes and Jose can quit dragging the log. From that point all three can be said to be "equal" but only a Republican would call the race fair. "If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump | |||
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I just don’t understand the “something for nothing” mentality. I guess you do because somewhere in your attempt at logic, equal opportunity, logs, bicycles and bare feet are supposed to be rewarded with equal results. Let me ask you this: Why even have a race if all runners get the same prize. Why not just distribute regardless of effort, ingenuity, acquired skills, determination, heart, perseverance and end product. I’m white and can’t jump. Where’s my LeBron-sized check. Trophies for Little League attendance ruined America, I guess.
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