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U.S. Finally Pulls Funding for Wuhan Lab The U.S. says that it will stop funding the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Why now!? A spokesperson for the Department of Health and Human Services said this on Tuesday and said that this was “necessary to mitigate any potential public health risk.” This comes after a ten-month investigation by the HHS found the lab was “not compliant with federal regulations and is not presently responsible.” We recently covered documents from Congress showing that Dr. Anthony Fauci and his colleagues purposely altered a scientific paper to make a lab leak seem implausible. This was done to politicize the lab leak theory, which was successful. It became a Democratic talking point used to call people who asked questions about a lab leak racists and conspiracy theorists. In truth, this was done to divert attention to the fact that Dr. Fauci had continued authorizing gain-of-function research long after it was banned by the Obama administration. ~Ann   | ||
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Now they need to erect the gallows and hang Fuaci!  | |||
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It's so odd how the republicans have these trigger issues. The COVID, the ATF, the FBI. By the way, what about the HHS? Aren't they an evil government entity too? Or, not in this case because it just so happens you think their opinions line up with your nutjob analysis? And, wouldn't you whackjobs normally be applauding a government official for continuing a governement activity that President Obama banned? I don't believe I've ever seen Obama's name spelled correctly in any post from Ann. Give it a rest. -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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Except the funding was under Trump....just saying.... Trump: "Putin is a Genius" "Hezbollah is very smart"  | |||
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So you agree with hanging Fauci because he was supported by Trump? Fauci is probably safe. He did what he was told by the political types. That’s what his job really was, putting a scientific veneer on political decisions. I suspect if you could get him to give a candid discussion, it might be very unsettling for those on both sides of the political aisle. | |||
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Trump was a distracted bystander, blindsided by an unanticipated public health issue (much like Saint Reagan with HIV). Do I correctly remember a piece of Pat Buchanan writing in which he suggested COVID was a biological weapon? I can't find it again, maybe should have saved it in a file. TomP Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right. Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906) | |||
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Is that all you loons do—speculate? Do any of you try working with facts or evidence? Ever? | |||
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More so than the progressives do… but that’s a very minuscule bar to clear. | |||
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That’s not really true. I don’t see the liberals coming up with the number of conspiracy theories | |||
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Do you mean conspiracy theories like the Hunter Biden laptop hoax? Or the Russian Collusion hoax? Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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Did Grassley ever find his lost anonymous uncorroborated source? | |||
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I think they found the former IRS Agent. A person now under indictment for being an unregistered Chinese Agent taking payments from the Chinese to provide access to Candidate Trump’s campaign official. Funny a whole bunch of President Trumps aligned folks went to prison by GOP appointees in the DOJ. As for the Wuhan funding. I am glad to see it go. The best I can tell NIH gave grants to an organization in 2014 that may have funneled the 600k of that money to Wahun. That more funding accorded in 2016-17 to Wahun directly. https://www.science.org/conten...virus-research-china https://theintercept.com/2021/...f-function-research/ https://www.factcheck.org/2020...n-wuhan-lab-funding/ | |||
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What does Grassley have to do with the laptop being an obvious Russian plant? Are you saying that the laptop wasn’t a hoax after all? Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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Hardly....just alluding to what Heym posted above. The guy who supposedly had the goods on HB according to Grassley is now under indictment and is accused of being a Chinese asset. More GOP conspiracy theory BS with no basis in fact. Reminds me of pizzagate. | |||
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Yeah, that one kind of fell through the cracks, huh?  -Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good. | |||
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Are you saying that the laptop was a Russian plant, designed to steal the election from Biden? Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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Nope....more of a molehill that the GOP has failed turn into the mountain that they claim it to be. | |||
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So, does that mean that those who called the laptop another “conspiracy theory” were wrong? Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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I will say that the laptop has not exactly proven to be bombshell the GOP has been telling us it would be. No proof of bribes so far that I have seen. Are you believing the indicted Chinese asset over the FBI? I'm not. | |||
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There are witnesses who have spoken out that Joe's blow 0biden, the 'big guy', was profiting with a cut to all of these deals. Also, remember, he got a ewEkrAne prosecutor fired quite publicly as well. One that was investigating dear Hunter. BaaaaawkkkkK! ~Ann | |||
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I agree with all of that, with one exception: I do believe that HB is guilty of soliciting bribes/pedaling influence. Do I believe that Joe was in on it? Hell no. Joe Biden may be the biggest fool to hold the presidency, but I can’t bring myself to believe that he would trust his drugged out idiot son to handle any illegal activity on his behalf. Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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Ann, Have you given any consideration to the possibility that Hunter was professing to have influence/partnerships with his father that didn’t exist? That would seem to fit that standard “spoiled rich kid/sleezeball/addict” MO. Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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Jason, not in this case. Don't forget all the shell corps set up in 0biden family names including grandchildren. This is very deliberate and carefully planned. I would reckon the 0biden crime family is not the only American politician using this strategy- having a family member collect the cash and divvy it out. ~Ann | |||
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I would agree with that if after these investigations they would have charged him with it. You have Joe Biden bragging he shut down the guy in Ukraine that was investigating his son. That may have been a "misstatement" but then he goes and takes Hunter on AF2 to China and meets Chinese businessmen with him also. One would think that Joe would have noticed this crap and put a stop to it. That he didn't, even when he was part of a ordinarily pretty above board Obama administration says what...?
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 like you and the Steele dossier???? Really cat? Really? | |||
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Jtex, you create a straw man to knock it down. I never voiced an opinion about the Steele dossier. There may have been some, but it wasn’t mainstream. How would I have known if it was valid? That’s the point of my post. You loons always try to paint with a broad brush. There are probably 100 ANTIFA in Portland and they were generally sustained by everyone, yet you loons were making claims that suggest all liberals are these big ANTIFA supporters. | |||
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If this link proves true, your consideration would be wrong. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...mpaign=1490&ito=1490 Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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“If”? | |||
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Which is precisely why I used the word. I offer it as information, not proof. DA has now been a "no show" three times. Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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That’s the problem that we labor under now: You loons have if after if, but virtually no credible evidence. After publishing a “if” it becomes a reality to many. | |||
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True, but it’s not just the “loons on the right.” | |||
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Believe that Hunter is 100% dirty. I am far less willing to believe that Joe is on the take. But I do believe that he is covering up the fact that his son was pedaling his influence. But I do believe that Joe is human trash, and I will be pleased if his attempts to cover up his involvement becomes his downfall. So I hope that your information proves to be correct. Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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I think we are pretty well aligned. However, I see far to many examples of Joe having more contact with guys that he denies knowing. The shell companies could be strictly Hunter I guess? At this point in American politics, it's become nothing more than collecting scalps. Our system is the problem. There is far to much money involved in politics. Even the noble ones, who go to Washington with purity of purpose, seem to learn that feeding at the public trough has far reaching financial benefits. They become part of the establishment. How is Biden or Pelosi or McConnell or any of them so bloody rich, during and after their "public service" We are their subjects, all of us. We are being played and used as tools to fight one another while they sit in their protected castle and legislate rules that only we live by. Yet, it seems to be impossible for us in these chat rooms across the country/world to agree on anything. Even when the answer is sitting right in front of us. 536 People are controlling 350,000,000 of us and getting filthy rich doing so. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" Once we can agree on who the actual enemy is, we've gotten halfway there. America is at stake. Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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I quoted my own post because this JRE podcast speaks to exactly the point of my post. Joe Rogan Podcast #1599. This YouTube video is a short excerpt from it. The clip doesn't really get into the meat of the full podcast.The full video isn't available on YT. It's on Spotify, which is a free app. Neither Joe or Tulsi can be accused of being knuckle-draggers. They, I believe see things pretty clearly, and as I believe the vast majority of rank and file Americans do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROd2JuDM8lc&t=201s Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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I agree with except your assertion that Rogan and Gabbard can’t be accused of being knuckle draggers. Libs call Rogan a right winger because he doesn’t parrot all of the party line BS. The call Gabbard “nutty as hell” and when you ask them what she says/supports that is “nutty” the get kinda quiet. But then they will repeat that she is a “wack job”. Thos killing off of all their mavericks leaves us with garbage like Biden and Harris. I guess the Democrats prefer Trump winning in 2024, instead of running candidates like RFK or Gabbard. I can’t wrap my head around it. Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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Right back at ya!   Personally, I do not see post j-6th Trump winning much other than 3 hots and a cot. Maybe a nice orange jump suit too. I wonder why the GOP can't just run a moderate and win. Of course moderates in the GOP are almost as scarce as the are in the Democratic party these days. Biden's age is most certainly an issue as is Hunter, if the GOP can prove the link as they have been claiming for the last 4 years. Despite the Republicans spending the last 3 years rooting for a recession, the economy remains remarkably strong. I'm not crediting Biden for that, but that is the case. Myself, I see Biden in the stronger position as sad as that may be. | |||
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I meant Knuckle Dragging R's. Joe considers himself a Liberal. Tulsi, seems to me a Libertarian for the most part. SKB, When the Republicans run Moderates, we lose. McCain, Romney were both pretty moderate and both didn't fare well. Formerly "Nganga" | |||
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You lost the last few go arounds running Trumpers. Neither 2020 or 2022 was a good look for the GOP. Red Wave? Not so much. The GOP has lost the political middle with Trumpism. | |||
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SKB, I don’t paint the Republicans as being any better as far as candidates. They are in a worst position, in my opinion. Most any viable republican candidate sullied themselves by cozying up to Trump during his presidency. The democrats, on the other hand, kill off any candidate that doesn’t toe the party line. I hope that Trump is not re-elected. Trump is directly and indirectly responsible for nearly every single thing that is divisive within our country. For example, I see the acceptance/push of the transgender garbage in schools as a direct response to the extremism that Trump incites on both the right and the left. Racial divide? Same Proxy war in Ukraine? Same Whether Trump is re-elected or locked up, we will continue to suffer as a country. Now if he were to decide to retire, or if old age suddenly over took him? Well, then we might be able to get back to that WJC/GWB/BHO “normality”. Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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Noted, but I would contend that the democrats are already doing that. Gabbard was slandered as a double agent when she refused to play along. We already see RFK being called a DINO here on this forum. Basically, anyone who is moderate is being called a right winger. The democrats act like sheep, always looking to the shepherds of the party for guidance. The progressives have become the party of conformity. I never thought that I would love to see that! And I’m still a few years shy of the half century mark. Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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