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I know trump says lock her up, But he didnt. This guy seems to have done so.

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Not yet.This article is two months old.He lost majority on his own this time and had to form a government with the help of coalition partners. The opposition has gained strength and its voice in the Parliament.


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India has been an Oligarchy for over 50 years.

Indira Gandhi was the first to corrupt the system by bribing rivals to defect during parliamentary votes.

Most of the business family dynasties were controlling government policy and tariff protections with quotas. This stifled economic growth for 30 years. Many of them are now in the pits with 4th & 5th generation having squandered all the wealth and with no initiative to make any progress.

Now that the economy is open, the new generation oligarchs have a free run on everything including banks, government reserves etc. Plunder unlimited.

The main advantage for the country is the huge scale of the economy. The general population can still thrive in an entrepreneurial system at the lower levels with a reasonable standard of living. They just do not feel the opportunity gap from the corruption above.

Poverty is still an issue for about 10% to 20% of the population - mostly in the remote provinces.

Technological networks like wireless internet banking services in the remote villages has made life a lot better for most.


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Sounds like there is now room for you to go home and clean up the 8 millions slaves ... here is your chance to put you money where your mouth is...


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Sounds like there is now room for you to go home and clean up the 8 millions slaves ... here is your chance to put you money where your mouth is...



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He's too busy enjoying life in an evil European capitalist country!!!
 
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Sounds like there is now room for you to go home and clean up the 8 millions slaves ... here is your chance to put you money where your mouth is...


I didnt realise it was so bad. Seems like as many as 11 million people in slavery/ sex trafficking in India.

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Literally more slaves in india TODAY than 5x the total number of slaves brought to the US... and, of course, eventually freed by Republicans.

In fact, 11 million is close to the entire estimated number of slaves brought to all the America's during all the slave trade

Looks like the time is right for naki to take he mental prowess and success to help his native country

Or send 540 emails, once a week, with his manifesto on how to solve all the US problems to the actual governors of the country.

Or just shout into the whirlwind and pretend to be smart


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Leave it to our MINO and JTEX to add nothing to a topic.
 
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Well, the Federal Government ended the international slave trade on January 8, 1808.

A domestic slave trade became necessary. Thus, the number of 11 million being enslaved by chattel slavery in the US by the slave trade is misleading.

There were “farms” in KY that raised slaves for sale down south.

It is what our state song is about with its original lyrics.

Yeah, India sucks. The only thing they have to say for themselves is they are a counterweight to Pakistan. To the point of India sucking, the last Venus before the Civil War was 1860.
The total amount of enslaved persons were 3,953,760 slaves in the country according to that census.
This was the final census before the American Civil War and represented 89% of the 4.4 million African Americans in the US at the time.

Now, I tend to think that 3,953,760 number only represents 3/5 of the total number because slaves were not counted but 3/5s by the census. This 3.9 mill number maybe adjusted to remove this 3/5s issue. I do not know.

Another issue is the percentage in slavery compared to overall African American population.
 
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With the oligarchy and and history of slavery, its sounding alot like russia. The indian phrase translated to 'let it be' is eerily similar to what we see from the ordinary people there right now. A profound disinterest in improving thier lot in life.

Its also interesting that the first nations to take action on slavery are the western nations that experimented with colonialism or had a link too them, and abandoned both ideas in a relatively short space of time.
 
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The United Kingdom by an act of Parliament ended slavery in 183.

However, the English textile industry of the Industrial Revolution was made on the back of southern plantation economy.

The PM at the time of the Civil War was anti-slavery, but pro-Confederacy. He tried to get authority to broker a negotiated peace after Antietam. When the situation became apparent it was not a strategic victory, the PM lost support to recognize the Confederacy by England. A quick reference for my pistol. On Antietam’s affect on Britain.


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No one appears to be pure on the issue to me in the 1800s.

Napoleon restored the slave trade to France and is colonies in 1802.
 
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I dont think any nation in the process of any huge societal change will be pure. But It was a relatively short timeframe when you look at it. Considering it was something never achieved before.
 
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UK directly permitted the market for chattel slavery in the South to be economical.

Had the Confederacy given a major Saratoga like victory Britain would have recognized the Confederacy, and sought to obtain its independence through negotiations.

That is more than not pure.

France finally ended slavery in 1848. I do not know how connected the French industry was to raw material production of the plantation system.

Yes, we can give them credit for being better than Arabs, Persians, and Turks.

Iran did not by legislation “end” slavery until 1929. End is a strong word.

There is no argument that I can find that Western European nation states were not the first to take steps to end slavery. I believe steps is the correct word as even in “ending slavery” within their jurisdictions. Industrial practices were the life blood of the plantation system. This statement applies certainly to UK.
 
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India is another perfect example of DEMOCRACY! rotflmo


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UK directly permitted the market for chattel slavery in the South to be economical.

Had the Confederacy given a major Saratoga like victory Britain would have recognized the Confederacy, and sought to obtain its independence through negotiations.


That is more than not pure.

France finally ended slavery in 1848. I do not know how connected the French industry was to raw material production of the plantation system.

Yes, we can give them credit for being better than Arabs, Persians, and Turks.

Iran did not by legislation “end” slavery until 1929. End is a strong word.

There is no argument that I can find that Western European nation states were not the first to take steps to end slavery. I believe steps is the correct word as even in “ending slavery” within their jurisdictions. Industrial practices were the life blood of the plantation system. This statement applies certainly to UK.


It probably had to be that way. You dont change economic and political systems inside a generation without doing major harm. Just look at ME'S memories of growing up in the south where change was forced in a shortened timeframe. 150 years is a very short time frame really.
 
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They had the world’s most ridiculous wedding there a while back.

It was the perfect example of what is wrong with society today.

An extremely rich families.

Invited all the idiots and wannabes to several parties to celebrate the wedding.

Every little dickhead and bimbo in Europe and America were invited to attend!

A couple of miles away they have one of the world’s worst poor people living in slums!

They are called the world’s biggest DEMOCRACY! rotflmo


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An oligarchy is just a monarchy that hasn't sorted out who's top dog yet. Unlike you guys Saeed.
Putin is an illegitimate monarch, But given a generation or two...
India has two choices. Remain as they are and never really prosper, or get on top of the corruption. slavery etc and they will improve.

UAE tops india for slavery per 1000 people by they way.
 
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At least we do not pretend to be anything else!

"Democracies" on the other hand, are as sick as being demonstrated by America, UK, most of Europe and New Zealand.

Oh, let us not forget those whose ancestors were hand picked by His majesty's judges! rotflmo


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Thats Australia and Norfolk Island. NZ was never a prison colony.

Is that why you dislike Zelensky so much? Hes leading the country away from the corruption and inhumanity of a totalitarian monarch, and towards a better future as a democracy.
 
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Saeed

Here is a suggestion.

Why don't you persuade your brother to deport ALL Indians for Dubai and the UAE. Even better, deport them from all the Arab countries.

It should be absolutely fantastic for your economies!

On second thoughts let the MAGA bigots persuade Trump to deport ALL Indians from the US. The economy should just thrive! Wink

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At least we do not pretend to be anything else!

"Democracies" on the other hand, are as sick as being demonstrated by America, UK, most of Europe and New Zealand.

Oh, let us not forget those whose ancestors were hand picked by His majesty's judges! rotflmo


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How did we jump from what Saeed said, too removing all the indians from their countries of residence? Its not about individual Indians.
Its about the faults of the indian political and cultural system that allows corruption and slavery to thrive.
Naki, please stay on topic! Wink
 
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Saeed

Here is a suggestion.

Why don't you persuade your brother to deport ALL Indians for Dubai and the UAE. Even better, deport them from all the Arab countries.

It should be absolutely fantastic for your economies!

On second thoughts let the MAGA bigots persuade Trump to deport ALL Indians from the US. The economy should just thrive! Wink

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Originally posted by Saeed:
At least we do not pretend to be anything else!

"Democracies" on the other hand, are as sick as being demonstrated by America, UK, most of Europe and New Zealand.

Oh, let us not forget those whose ancestors were hand picked by His majesty's judges! rotflmo


Why would we want to deport our legally immigrated Indians????

We got the smart ones!!!!!

New Zealand got the dregs!!!!!!

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How did we jump from what Saeed said, too removing all the indians from their countries of residence? Its not about individual Indians.
Its about the faults of the indian political and cultural system that allows corruption and slavery to thrive.
Naki, please stay on topic! Wink


He can't do it....stay on topic......when he is shown that his topic is ludicrous.....


His only topic: White people of European decent bad......brown people of any decent great..... He is a terrible racist!
 
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Saeed

Here is a suggestion.

Why don't you persuade your brother to deport ALL Indians for Dubai and the UAE. Even better, deport them from all the Arab countries.

It should be absolutely fantastic for your economies!

On second thoughts let the MAGA bigots persuade Trump to deport ALL Indians from the US. The economy should just thrive! Wink

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Originally posted by Saeed:
At least we do not pretend to be anything else!

"Democracies" on the other hand, are as sick as being demonstrated by America, UK, most of Europe and New Zealand.

Oh, let us not forget those whose ancestors were hand picked by His majesty's judges! rotflmo


America and Dubai have something in common.

Neither country would be where it is today if we did not offer opportunities for LEGAL workers into our countries.

But, we have certain rules America does not.

Visitors are offered opportunities to better their lives, and support their families back at home.

But, they have to follow our rules.

Which they all do.

We don't have stupid politicians who use them as a political point of support.

They know the rules, and they play by them.


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Saeed

Here is a suggestion.

Why don't you persuade your brother to deport ALL Indians for Dubai and the UAE. Even better, deport them from all the Arab countries.

It should be absolutely fantastic for your economies!

On second thoughts let the MAGA bigots persuade Trump to deport ALL Indians from the US. The economy should just thrive! Wink

jumping



quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
At least we do not pretend to be anything else!

"Democracies" on the other hand, are as sick as being demonstrated by America, UK, most of Europe and New Zealand.

Oh, let us not forget those whose ancestors were hand picked by His majesty's judges! rotflmo


Why would we want to deport our legally immigrated Indians????

We got the smart ones!!!!!

New Zealand got the dregs!!!!!!

animal animal animal


We have alot of indian immigrants too NZ that are top shelf people too. Hard working, fit into society, get involved in the community etc.
 
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Saeed

Here is a suggestion.

Why don't you persuade your brother to deport ALL Indians for Dubai and the UAE. Even better, deport them from all the Arab countries.

It should be absolutely fantastic for your economies!

On second thoughts let the MAGA bigots persuade Trump to deport ALL Indians from the US. The economy should just thrive! Wink

jumping



quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
At least we do not pretend to be anything else!

"Democracies" on the other hand, are as sick as being demonstrated by America, UK, most of Europe and New Zealand.

Oh, let us not forget those whose ancestors were hand picked by His majesty's judges! rotflmo


Why would we want to deport our legally immigrated Indians????

We got the smart ones!!!!!

New Zealand got the dregs!!!!!!

animal animal animal


We have alot of indian immigrants too NZ that are top shelf people too. Hard working, fit into society, get involved in the community etc.


I'm sure you. But you also got naki.....
 
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The racist bigot is going to get deported from Texas with the blue wave.

He will have to immigrate to Putin's Siberia

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Im not sure its racist or bigoted to judge and individual by their character. or at least the one they present online.
If so, that would make you a racist bigot too Naki.
 
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If so, that would make you a racist bigot too Naki.



BINGO!!!!!
 
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Im not sure its racist or bigoted to judge and individual by their character. or at least the one they present online.
If so, that would make you a racist bigot too Naki.


Exactly!


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Im not sure its racist or bigoted to judge and individual by their character. or at least the one they present online.
If so, that would make you a racist bigot too Naki.


Exactly!


Bloody Racist! hilbily
 
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