A reason not to vote for Vance in 4 years.

No worries. He’ll be drunk and assaulting women in no time. It’s what he does best. In fact, other than stealing from veterans, it’s all he does well…

McConnell has turned into McCain.

JD 2028

Always a good idea to have a drunk woman abuser and adulterer in charge of the military...

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Originally posted by ledvm:
McConnell has turned into McCain.

JD 2028

Everything JDollar said is true. You have provided nothing to refute it. That flag emoji is a disgrace for you to use.

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Originally posted by jdollar:
No worries. He’ll be drunk and assaulting women in no time. It’s what he does best. In fact, other than stealing from veterans, it’s all he does well…

A DUI hire...

I have talked and e-mailed a number of men and women serving now. all are excited to give Hegseth a chance. They are tired of the same old men run by old ways.
If Jeffi claims he's no good, he has a very good chance of success. Just look at his prediction rate. You said he would never get confirmed jeffi.
Oh, the FBI deep dive found " nothing remarkable" in any and all accusations.
If he cant do the job, replace him.

I'm sure that all the women serving our country are delighted that a drunken misogynist with a history of sexual assault and who is on record saying that females should not serve in combat roles is our new defense secretary. I mean, what woman would not be excited for a boss like that?

1950's, here we come.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
McConnell has turned into McCain.

JD 2028

Everything JDollar said is true. You have provided nothing to refute it. That flag emoji is a disgrace for you to use.

First you declare you don’t believe in God’s Will on earth and now you reveal you don’t believe in Jesus’s teachings of forgiveness.

There are no perfect people (Albeit Joshua believes he is — except for spelling and grammar ) . If he made (which I don’t know if T or F) mistakes in his past I forgive — I have made mistakes as well.

I asked some women Steve. I suggest you do the same before answering for all of them.

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Originally posted by theback40:
I asked some women Steve. I suggest you do the same before answering for all of them.

You should brush up on your reading skills Tony. Read what I wrote again. I am not speaking for all of them, rather pointing out that some of them may find Hegseth less than appealing for the reasons stated above.

. . . wonder if his mom will show up at his swearing in?

Have you read Sec. Hegseph’s books? They are enlightening and really talk more about relaxing physical standards necessary for women to qualify for combat.

In Gen. Millie’s woke military, the physical standards for combat are met by women and are touted as equal. This was accomplished by lowering men’s standards to that which most all women could perform. So, the woke agenda didn’t just lower the women’s requirements (from assuring combat readiness equally in both sexes), it made women’s performance the common denominator and thereby the U.S. military less lethal, i.e. men have to perform only like physically weaker women instead of women having to perform as physically stronger men can. The intentionally false claim that women can perform as well as men doesn’t tell the whole truth… and that’s men’s physical criteria has been modified downward to allow women to qualify thereby reducing what’s required for all.

As an aside and as a former carrier-qualified fighter pilot myself, I don’t see any overwhelming reason that a woman couldn’t fly tactical aircraft (Lt Karin Hultgreen understood as too much, too fast for P.C. Reasons).

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
I'm sure that all the women serving our country are delighted that a drunken misogynist with a history of sexual assault and who is on record saying that females should not serve in combat roles is our new defense secretary. I mean, what woman would not be excited for a boss like that?

1950's, here we come.

Steve you said "all the women" that, to me, reads like you are speaking for all of them.
If it is only for some, sure, I'll go along with it. But what you wrote does not read like that.

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Originally posted by theback40:
Steve you said "all the women" that, to me, reads like you are speaking for all of them.
If it is only for some, sure, I'll go along with it. But what you wrote does not read like that.

My first language is sarcasm Tony, you take me too literally at times. I prefaced "all of the women" with I'm sure, that was tongue in cheek and an attempt to point out that everyone may not be in agreement on the matter.

I am not speaking any of them, just pointing out that some may not be thrilled with his history or his views on their prospects for career advancement in the Armed Forces.

https://www.npr.org/2025/01/24...te-confirmation-vote

Pete Hegseth, Trump's embattled pick for defense secretary, wins Senate confirmation
January 24, 20259:52 PM ET

(excerpt)

Talking to reporters in California after the vote, Trump said Hegseth would make a great defense secretary. He said he didn't know McConnell voted no, but added: "Winning is all that matters."

If four Republicans had voted with Senate Democrats to oppose Hegseth it would have sunk the nomination.

Among the allegations: Hegseth was accused of sexually assaulting a woman at a Republican conference in 2017 and ended up signing a nondisclosure agreement and paying a financial settlement. In addition, a former sister-in-law accused him of "abusive" behavior toward his second wife, who denied any physical abuse. And Hegseth was in charge of two veterans' nonprofit groups where more money was spent than was taken in. Hegseth has called any allegations against him false, the result of disgruntled employees or part of media smear campaigns against him.

The 44-year-old Hegseth, a Army National Guard combat veteran and a former Fox News host, has no experience running a large organization, and during his confirmation hearing he addressed that, saying he had a different background. He referred to the "dust on his boots" from his combat deployments to Iraq and vowing to be a "change agent" and "disruptor," at the Pentagon.

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by theback40:
Steve you said "all the women" that, to me, reads like you are speaking for all of them.
If it is only for some, sure, I'll go along with it. But what you wrote does not read like that.

My first language is sarcasm Tony, you take me too literally at times. I prefaced "all of the women" with I'm sure, that was tongue in cheek and an attempt to point out that everyone may not be in agreement on the matter.

I am not speaking any of them, just pointing out that some may not be thrilled with his history or his views on their prospects for career advancement in the Armed Forces.

in the immortal words of johnny carson, when a joke utterly failed
BOMBO

i had a frenemey named bill, who instructed me, what i think was the LAST time I used the unqualified phrase "most people" ...

said
"you don't know most people"

entirely shut me down, i acknowledged he was correct, and walked away to ponder

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by theback40:
Steve you said "all the women" that, to me, reads like you are speaking for all of them.
If it is only for some, sure, I'll go along with it. But what you wrote does not read like that.

My first language is sarcasm Tony, you take me too literally at times. I prefaced "all of the women" with I'm sure, that was tongue in cheek and an attempt to point out that everyone may not be in agreement on the matter.

I am not speaking any of them, just pointing out that some may not be thrilled with his history or his views on their prospects for career advancement in the Armed Forces.

in the immortal words of johnny carson, when a joke utterly failed
BOMBO

Were you making the case that all the women in the military are in favor of our new defense secretary?

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by theback40:
Steve you said "all the women" that, to me, reads like you are speaking for all of them.
If it is only for some, sure, I'll go along with it. But what you wrote does not read like that.

My first language is sarcasm Tony, you take me too literally at times. I prefaced "all of the women" with I'm sure, that was tongue in cheek and an attempt to point out that everyone may not be in agreement on the matter.

I am not speaking any of them, just pointing out that some may not be thrilled with his history or his views on their prospects for career advancement in the Armed Forces.

in the immortal words of johnny carson, when a joke utterly failed
BOMBO

Were you making the case that all the women in the military are in favor of our new defense secretary?

No, honey. My comments were on your failed "joke"..

I don't presume to speak for everyone in my house, much less people I don't interact with....

In the end, Hegseth will either improve the lethality of the military, or he won't.

Whether he gets bogged down by the built in bureaucracy or not is also a factor.

Frankly, as we have civilian control of the military, I think folks make too much of the "qualifications" of the secdef. He's supposed to be the guy who passes to the military the desires of the political leader (president).

I fully trust that if Hegseth is not doing his job, he will be removed.

I have to admit that after watching some basic training videos lately, the women DI's don't seem to be in anything like the physical shape of the males, and whats more, the men were no where near as impressive as the sergeants I remember from my ROTC days... when they described us as a bunch of fat "gentlemen" we looked at them and could tell they could do twice what they were making us do.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:


I don't presume to speak for everyone in my house, much less people I don't interact with....

Oh child, you misunderstand, that is not that unusual for you.

I was speaking for nobody, merely pointing out that not everyone necessarily shares the same opinion as those that TB40 spoke with, he seems to understand that, shame you are too slow to follow along.

. . . if folks cannot recognize sarcasm perhaps they ought to find another sandbox to play in. Oh, and a joke is no less a joke simply because someone hearing it is too dim to understand it.

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:


I don't presume to speak for everyone in my house, much less people I don't interact with....

Oh child, you misunderstand, that is not that unusual for you.

I was speaking for nobody, merely pointing out that not everyone necessarily shares the same opinion as those that TB40 spoke with, he seems to understand that, shame you are too slow to follow along.

oh .. sweety, here's your exact words

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
I'm sure that all the women serving our country....

yep, "bomb-o" would have been the correct response

but i have learned, due to exposure, not to expect responsibility or intellectual honesty from some members of these forums --

At least Hegseth will show up for the job. Your libs Austin didn’t think it was important to go to work for a week at one of the countries most critical jobs or let his superiors know he was MIA. How crazy is that?

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but i we have learned, due to exposure, not to expect responsibility or intellectual honesty from some members of these forums --

Also, often some members deflect, nitpick, and otherwise deviate a thread off topic, compulsively.

How many posts already - nitpicking and off topic, all due to ONE poster?

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

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but i we have learned, due to exposure, not to expect responsibility or intellectual honesty from some members of these forums --

Also, often some members deflect, nitpick, and otherwise deviate a thread off topic, compulsively.

How many posts already - nitpicking and off topic, all due to ONE poster?

Idk ME, but how do you see your post as being on this topic?
Pot.. kettle...

In all fairness to VP Vance, even if I personally objections to Hegseth, I would vote in affirmation to break the tie.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Idk ME, but how do you see your post as being on this topic?
Pot.. kettle...

I have a choice, ignore you or call out your BS.

Of course, any response to your BS distraction only feeds your ego.

https://youtu.be/Otm4RusESNU?si=ubucD6j8RTRKnk1j

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
In all fairness to VP Vance, even if I personally objections to Hegseth, I would vote in affirmation to break the tie.

Correct. He really didn't have a choice.

Same with Pence when he broke the tie re DeVos.

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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Idk ME, but how do you see your post as being on this topic?
Pot.. kettle...

I have a choice, ignore you or call out your BS.

Of course, any response to your BS distraction only feeds your ego.

https://youtu.be/Otm4RusESNU?si=ubucD6j8RTRKnk1j

and THIS post is topical, how?

but, OF COURSE your "rules" never apply to you, ME --

i must say, in over 45 years of being on the internet, one thing NEVER changes -- volunteer "hall monitors" trying to correct other persons actions, from behind a keyboard --
i have seen it for decades, in several countries and languages -- that "mentality" has never changed ... i guess it's just human nature to try and compel someone to do your wants - especially when there isn't an authority relationship --

"teacher, he's CHEWING GUM" .... never changes

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:


I don't presume to speak for everyone in my house, much less people I don't interact with....

Oh child, you misunderstand, that is not that unusual for you.

I was speaking for nobody, merely pointing out that not everyone necessarily shares the same opinion as those that TB40 spoke with, he seems to understand that, shame you are too slow to follow along.

oh .. sweety, here's your exact words

quote:

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
I'm sure that all the women serving our country....

yep, "bomb-o" would have been the correct response

but i have learned, due to exposure, not to expect responsibility or intellectual honesty from some members of these forums --

My exact words, and you are too dumb to follow along. Sarcasm is a fairly common literary device, commonly used by adults but often failed to be recognized by children.



You are cute the way you follow folks around like a rat dog....




Due to the combination of that and your intellectual ferocity, I think that I call you Daisy going forward.

^^

Back on the sugar, steve? you had been in remission

that your pup? it's awfully cute!!
Signed
"Daisy" (oh, the misogyny of your attempt to use a normally female name on a man, thinking to be insulting -- careful, honey, your sexism is showing ... conversely, for wokies.... "steve is misgendering me.. and that's violence" )

You know what else is typical of "the 50s" -- trying to shrug over one's own bad behavior by saying "it was a joke"

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Originally posted by ledvm:
McConnell has turned into McCain.

JD 2028

Now you are defending another rapist.

Have you no shame?

The last guy was a fuckup? I can’t think of a better reason to hire a new fuckup.

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Originally posted by Jefffive:
Always a good idea to have a drunk woman abuser and adulterer in charge of the military...

But will he fight for the country is the Big question, his past history is moot.

He will fight for Trump.

Hegseth is a warrior, a patriot, an America First advocate — he will fight for America.

Hopefully he fights for America with the same passion he fights his women with.