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NEW YORK (AP) — A judge has ruled that Donald Trump committed fraud for years while building the real estate empire that catapulted him to fame and the White House.

Judge Arthur Engoron, ruling Tuesday in a civil lawsuit brought by New York’s attorney general, found that the former president and his company deceived banks, insurers and others by massively overvaluing his assets and exaggerating his net worth on paperwork used in making deals and securing financing.

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Sigh, the boy cried wolf too many times. Now when wolves may really be at the gate no one believes. That’s the bed, now lay in it.

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Sigh, the boy cried wolf too many times. Now when wolves may really be at the gate no one believes. That’s the bed, now lay in it.

Most of this trial just ended; he's guilty of bank and insurance fraud. All that's left to determine is does the State get the $250 million fine they are asking for and the ban against him or his companies doing business in New York State.

understated the Judge's ruling.

He's ordering the dissolution of the Trump Org. and all associated LLCs owned by Trump, Junior, I'm Eric, Allen Weisselberg and Jeffrey McConney, AND ANYTHING ELSE THEY OWN IN NEW YORK.

If you loathe the Mango Mussolini half as much as I do mark this date on your calendar, it is officially the worst day of Donald Trump's life.

So far.

https://youtu.be/9FesfjIaOKQ?si=llbZpPaH2AkwfLcs

Judge finds Trump committed fraud in NY civil case

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These civil cases will haunt him for the rest of his life and his decedents, aside from the outcome of the felony charges.

For those who don't want to watch the whole video, I started it at 5:50.

Of course you can scroll back or fwd, as you wish.

https://youtu.be/iCFfNNanWt8?s...LPC6rrraGOamqk&t=349

Orange jail suit will go well with his orange hair!

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Orange jail suit will go well with his orange hair!

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Orange jail suit will go well with his orange hair!

This one won't involve jail time, just a huge fine his stupid supporters will donate to pay and he and his kids can't do business in New York anytime soon, if ever.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...=22#image=AA1eLfux|1

George Conway Shows Why Trump Ruling Is ‘Corporate Death Penalty’
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Nonetheless, to the ardent Trumpeteers, he is simply a smart businessman who knows how to play the game. Besides, he's more focused on what the country needs, because he is such a patriot and all. Regards, Biil

NYC Landmarks!!

Are the maga azzhats tired of all this "winning" yet?

No good and decent person will ever run for high public office again. You will be smeared besmirched, tarred and feathered, drowned with lawsuits, career and character destroyed at all costs. Trumps guilt or innocence is irrelevant in this statement. Your average America taxpayer, maybe a small town mayor, county auditor, township trustee is well aware of how the government and media treat anyone running for office that doesn’t toe the line. You will be crushed. Congratulations on ensuring good and decent want nothing to do with serving our country in office. Fuck all

You probably don't want to read my opinion on that, but I'll give it anyway.

IMO, you have displayed the attitude and belief which is the sort of vulnerability being exploited nowadays. It's Nihilism, deep distrust in the systems, and it extends further than you will admit.

In other words, to be a devoted far rightist, one has to believe a lot of deep doo-doo, and it taints everything, as in worldview.

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"Trumps guilt or innocence is irrelevant"

IMO, it's everything regarding the rule of law and whether it matters or not, present and future.

IMO, Trump MUST be prosecuted, for the sake of the Founding principles.

Note: I didn't say found guilty. I said prosecuted in the judicial system. It HAS to play out. All the BS interference at this point serves Fascism - that's all.

Of course, I think he's guilty of all 91 counts and a lot more, but that's just my opinion based on reasonable facts/evidence. And, most importantly, I still trust the judiciary, mostly.

Tomahawker,

Another aspect of this, IMO, is that your opinions are significant.

I don't want to give more credit to this forum than it deserves, but your posts have value, IMO.

This forum is the only place I have found where such diverse opinions are expressed and taken with merit. I've looked and found none other.

Anyway, I think you are in the right place. This is your chance to learn something, and perhaps to share something worth learning.

I do not mean to put you down, or silence you. Go forth.