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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by nute:
This isn’t black and white.

What Hamas did was evil, there is no justification or excuse for it and no other way to describe it.

A Palestinian life is worth just as much as an Israeli life however. Two wrongs…

Maybe at one time there was gray but today it is black and white. The Israelis have tried to relax and begin the healing process — which in itself will take time. The Palestinians ALWAYS pick the scab and reinfect the wound.

If on October 7th had Palestinian men came with rifles and fought other men conventionally to take and hold what they perceived as theirs…I could respect that.

That is NOT what happened. The elected representatives of the Palestinian People chose to commit violent acts so heinous that I for one will never be OK sharing the earth with them. What they did was evil and the DNA with that capability should be eradicated.

God gave us minds to reason. Our minds by now should be able to see that a Two-State Solution within the confines of the Israel borders is NOT possible. The solution is to relocate the potentially salvageable people to a safe region whers they hopefully can integrate with their own kind, heal, and lead healthy prosperous lives.

This line of thinking that these people MUST be able to live on this certain real-estate or nowhere else is nuts. As Einstein said, doing the same experiment over and over andexpecting a different result is insanity. Relocation is the only viable plan.

Your nuts Lane....and filled with hatred. Go back and read the New Testament.

Have many times. No hatred here but plenty of logic.

The same logic that determined that Musk is not a rightist?

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
You mean to tell us you believe Israelis are God's favored people?

You think God approves of the slaughter of Palestinians?

If so, you're even sicker than I thought.

Not much difference to what Adolf Hitler thought of the Jews.

He said they were expendable!

NitanHitler and his lapdog, Trump, say the Palestinians cannot go back to their homes.

Kushner had plans for that last year!

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
You mean to tell us you believe Israelis are God's favored people?

You think God approves of the slaughter of Palestinians?

If so, you're even sicker than I thought.

Not much difference to what Adolf Hitler thought of the Jews.

He said they were expendable!

NitanHitler and his lapdog, Trump, say the Palestinians cannot go back to their homes.

Kushner had plans for that last year!

There is no home for them in Gaza nor future. Help them relocate and have both.

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Originally posted by ledvm:
While I think you should have waited a bit longer in hopes of a little more brain power before pronouncing your definition…let’s examine.

So by definition, Freedom of Speech is a totally “rightist” value.

Man I seem to recall the leftist back in the 60s and 70s disagreeing with you.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
False dichotomy, Scott. You can deplore the violence by both Israelis and Palestinians without taking sides.

I support a two-state solution.

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
False dichotomy, Scott. You can deplore the violence by both Israelis and Palestinians without taking sides.

I support a two-state solution.

I don't and here's why...

https://www.cfr.org/blog/teach...dren-value-terrorism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RGLUMBkz6o

https://www.congress.gov/118/c...1-01-pt1-PgH5199.pdf

https://cufi.org/issue/compreh...palestinian-schools/

https://www.algemeiner.com/202...ildren-to-hate-jews/

You get it. I could post literally dozens of articles.

As the Jews state; "If Palestine lays down its arm, there would be peace, If Israel lays down its arms there would be no Israel."

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
False dichotomy, Scott. You can deplore the violence by both Israelis and Palestinians without taking sides.

I support a two-state solution.

I don't and here's why...

https://www.cfr.org/blog/teach...dren-value-terrorism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RGLUMBkz6o

https://www.congress.gov/118/c...1-01-pt1-PgH5199.pdf

https://cufi.org/issue/compreh...palestinian-schools/

https://www.algemeiner.com/202...ildren-to-hate-jews/

You get it. I could post literally dozens of articles.

As the Jews state; "If Palestine lays down its arm, there would be peace, If Israel lays down its arms there would be no Israel."

November 2nd, 1917

Dear Lord Rothschild,

I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet.

"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."

I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.

Yours sincerely,

Arthur James Balfour


Peace and tolerance??

Read the above promise by the occupiers.

Then see what had happened since!

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
While I think you should have waited a bit longer in hopes of a little more brain power before pronouncing your definition…let’s examine.

So by definition, Freedom of Speech is a totally “rightist” value.

Man I seem to recall the leftist back in the 60s and 70s disagreeing with you.

A rare point of agreement, you are indeed confused. Elon Musk is a right wing whack job....just like you

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
While I think you should have waited a bit longer in hopes of a little more brain power before pronouncing your definition…let’s examine.

So by definition, Freedom of Speech is a totally “rightist” value.

Man I seem to recall the leftist back in the 60s and 70s disagreeing with you.

A rare point of agreement, you are indeed confused. Elon Musk is a right wing whack job....just like you

So I see you are conflicted on your definition. Maybe when the cobwebs are out you might refine it and lets see if it fits.

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
While I think you should have waited a bit longer in hopes of a little more brain power before pronouncing your definition…let’s examine.

So by definition, Freedom of Speech is a totally “rightist” value.

Man I seem to recall the leftist back in the 60s and 70s disagreeing with you.

A rare point of agreement, you are indeed confused. Elon Musk is a right wing whack job....just like you

So I see you are conflicted on your definition. Maybe when the cobwebs are out you might refine it and lets see if it fits.

Musk is still a right wing whack job....just like you

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
While I think you should have waited a bit longer in hopes of a little more brain power before pronouncing your definition…let’s examine.

So by definition, Freedom of Speech is a totally “rightist” value.

Man I seem to recall the leftist back in the 60s and 70s disagreeing with you.

A rare point of agreement, you are indeed confused. Elon Musk is a right wing whack job....just like you

So I see you are conflicted on your definition. Maybe when the cobwebs are out you might refine it and lets see if it fits.

Musk is still a right wing whack job....just like you

Repeating yourself now…a sign of dementia. Maybe try a new definition mid morning after breakfast and some exercise.

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
While I think you should have waited a bit longer in hopes of a little more brain power before pronouncing your definition…let’s examine.

So by definition, Freedom of Speech is a totally “rightist” value.

Man I seem to recall the leftist back in the 60s and 70s disagreeing with you.

A rare point of agreement, you are indeed confused. Elon Musk is a right wing whack job....just like you

So I see you are conflicted on your definition. Maybe when the cobwebs are out you might refine it and lets see if it fits.

Musk is still a right wing whack job....just like you

Repeating yourself now…a sign of dementia. Maybe try a new definition mid morning after breakfast and some exercise.

Did you see Trump/Musk interview? Musk is truly a visionary. He is going help the blind see, the paralyzed get the use of their bodies back, bring us to Mars. His goal is to help humanity.

But the left hates him, Orange Man bad.

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
While I think you should have waited a bit longer in hopes of a little more brain power before pronouncing your definition…let’s examine.

So by definition, Freedom of Speech is a totally “rightist” value.

Man I seem to recall the leftist back in the 60s and 70s disagreeing with you.

A rare point of agreement, you are indeed confused. Elon Musk is a right wing whack job....just like you

So I see you are conflicted on your definition. Maybe when the cobwebs are out you might refine it and lets see if it fits.

Musk is still a right wing whack job....just like you

Repeating yourself now…a sign of dementia. Maybe try a new definition mid morning after breakfast and some exercise.

Did you see Trump/Musk interview? Musk is truly a visionary. He is going help the blind see, the paralyzed get the use of their bodies back, bring us to Mars. His goal is to help humanity.

But the left hates him, Orange Man bad.

I think the Hag wrote a song about him Steve, it's called "Rainbow stew"

I'll be shitting bricks of gold before we have people living on Mars.

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Originally posted by Tumbleweed:
I think we should test Orange Jesus and see if he’ll rise from the dead after three days. Only then will we know if God actually chose him.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Tumbleweed:
I think we should test Orange Jesus and see if he’ll rise from the dead after three days. Only then will we know if God actually chose him.

If you have plans to visit the US in the next 4 years…you might want to delete that^^^post.

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

quote:

Originally posted by ledvm:
While I think you should have waited a bit longer in hopes of a little more brain power before pronouncing your definition…let’s examine.

So by definition, Freedom of Speech is a totally “rightist” value.

Man I seem to recall the leftist back in the 60s and 70s disagreeing with you.

A rare point of agreement, you are indeed confused. Elon Musk is a right wing whack job....just like you

So I see you are conflicted on your definition. Maybe when the cobwebs are out you might refine it and lets see if it fits.

Musk is still a right wing whack job....just like you

Repeating yourself now…a sign of dementia. Maybe try a new definition mid morning after breakfast and some exercise.

Did you see Trump/Musk interview? Musk is truly a visionary. He is going help the blind see, the paralyzed get the use of their bodies back, bring us to Mars. His goal is to help humanity.

But the left hates him, Orange Man bad.

I think the Hag wrote a song about him Steve, it's called "Rainbow stew"

I'll be shitting bricks of gold before we have people living on Mars.

I didn't say -"Living on mars"

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Tumbleweed:
I think we should test Orange Jesus and see if he’ll rise from the dead after three days. Only then will we know if God actually chose him.

If you have plans to visit the US in the next 4 years…you might want to delete that^^^post.

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Steve Bertram:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
While I think you should have waited a bit longer in hopes of a little more brain power before pronouncing your definition…let’s examine.

So by definition, Freedom of Speech is a totally “rightist” value.

Man I seem to recall the leftist back in the 60s and 70s disagreeing with you.

A rare point of agreement, you are indeed confused. Elon Musk is a right wing whack job....just like you

So I see you are conflicted on your definition. Maybe when the cobwebs are out you might refine it and lets see if it fits.

Musk is still a right wing whack job....just like you

Repeating yourself now…a sign of dementia. Maybe try a new definition mid morning after breakfast and some exercise.

Did you see Trump/Musk interview? Musk is truly a visionary. He is going help the blind see, the paralyzed get the use of their bodies back, bring us to Mars. His goal is to help humanity.

But the left hates him, Orange Man bad.

I think the Hag wrote a song about him Steve, it's called "Rainbow stew"

I'll be shitting bricks of gold before we have people living on Mars.

I didn't say -"Living on mars"

Oh, so we are playing the devil is in the details game. You win. I'll revise my statement.

I'll be shitting bricks of gold before Musk brings us to Mars.

Is that better?

Musk is a turd, just like Trump.

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by nute:
This isn’t black and white.

What Hamas did was evil, there is no justification or excuse for it and no other way to describe it.

A Palestinian life is worth just as much as an Israeli life however. Two wrongs…

Maybe at one time there was gray but today it is black and white. The Israelis have tried to relax and begin the healing process — which in itself will take time. The Palestinians ALWAYS pick the scab and reinfect the wound.

If on October 7th had Palestinian men came with rifles and fought other men conventionally to take and hold what they perceived as theirs…I could respect that.

That is NOT what happened. The elected representatives of the Palestinian People chose to commit violent acts so heinous that I for one will never be OK sharing the earth with them. What they did was evil and the DNA with that capability should be eradicated.

God gave us minds to reason. Our minds by now should be able to see that a Two-State Solution within the confines of the Israel borders is NOT possible. The solution is to relocate the potentially salvageable people to a safe region whers they hopefully can integrate with their own kind, heal, and lead healthy prosperous lives.

This line of thinking that these people MUST be able to live on this certain real-estate or nowhere else is nuts. As Einstein said, doing the same experiment over and over andexpecting a different result is insanity. Relocation is the only viable plan.

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Originally posted by nute:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by nute:
This isn’t black and white.

What Hamas did was evil, there is no justification or excuse for it and no other way to describe it.

A Palestinian life is worth just as much as an Israeli life however. Two wrongs…

Maybe at one time there was gray but today it is black and white. The Israelis have tried to relax and begin the healing process — which in itself will take time. The Palestinians ALWAYS pick the scab and reinfect the wound.

If on October 7th had Palestinian men came with rifles and fought other men conventionally to take and hold what they perceived as theirs…I could respect that.

That is NOT what happened. The elected representatives of the Palestinian People chose to commit violent acts so heinous that I for one will never be OK sharing the earth with them. What they did was evil and the DNA with that capability should be eradicated.

God gave us minds to reason. Our minds by now should be able to see that a Two-State Solution within the confines of the Israel borders is NOT possible. The solution is to relocate the potentially salvageable people to a safe region whers they hopefully can integrate with their own kind, heal, and lead healthy prosperous lives.

This line of thinking that these people MUST be able to live on this certain real-estate or nowhere else is nuts. As Einstein said, doing the same experiment over and over andexpecting a different result is insanity. Relocation is the only viable plan.

Plenty of instances of law abiding Palestinians being forcibly evicted, burnt out or shot by settlers who want their land while the Israeli security forces es stand by and do nothing.

It’s not been a case of Israel repeatedly offering the olive branch. If that is your opinion you should try to do some further reading on the subject. Both sides are guilty of wrongs.

I don’t condone what Hamas has done, just as I don’t condone violence on the part of the Israelis.

With sufficient political pressure on both sides this might be solvable, but it’s not going to be easy. And forcibly relocating 5 million people from what they view as their homeland as and end to the violence is a pipe dream.

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
You mean to tell us you believe Israelis are God's favored people?

You think God approves of the slaughter of Palestinians?

If so, you're even sicker than I thought.

Not much difference to what Adolf Hitler thought of the Jews.

He said they were expendable!

NitanHitler and his lapdog, Trump, say the Palestinians cannot go back to their homes.

Kushner had plans for that last year!

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Originally posted by Tumbleweed:

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Originally posted by ledvm:

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Originally posted by Tumbleweed:
I think we should test Orange Jesus and see if he’ll rise from the dead after three days. Only then will we know if God actually chose him.

If you have plans to visit the US in the next 4 years…you might want to delete that^^^post.

No worries there. I promise to stay on my side of the line, if you (and especially he) promise to stay on yours. Cross with evil intent and all bets are off.

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As the Jews state; "If Palestine lays down its arm, there would be peace, If Israel lays down its arms there would be no Israel."

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
You mean to tell us you believe Israelis are God's favored people?

You think God approves of the slaughter of Palestinians?

If so, you're even sicker than I thought.

Not much difference to what Adolf Hitler thought of the Jews.

He said they were expendable!

NitanHitler and his lapdog, Trump, say the Palestinians cannot go back to their homes.

Kushner had plans for that last year!

Why would anyone let rabid dogs into their homes? That's what HAMAS acts like.....and they where freely elected to represent Palestinians.....

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I personally doubt that Trump intends to allow an election he is likely to lose, either.

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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I personally doubt that Trump intends to allow an election he is likely to lose, either.

You are an idiot.......

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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I personally doubt that Trump intends to allow an election he is likely to lose, either.

You are an idiot.......

Yet exponentially smarter than you'll ever experience, so there's that.

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
You mean to tell us you believe Israelis are God's favored people?

You think God approves of the slaughter of Palestinians?

If so, you're even sicker than I thought.

Not much difference to what Adolf Hitler thought of the Jews.

He said they were expendable!

NitanHitler and his lapdog, Trump, say the Palestinians cannot go back to their homes.

Kushner had plans for that last year!

Why would anyone let rabid dogs into their homes? That's what HAMAS acts like.....and they where freely elected to represent Palestinians.....

.

The last time the Palestinian people in Gaza got to vote in anything resembling fair elections was in 2006 when Hamas got 44.45% of the vote, not dissimilar to Trump's 49%, and achieved a small legislative majority (74 of 132 seats), not unlike the current slim Republican margins in Congress.

Hamas then claimed these slim margins were a "mandate" to assume unilateral rule over Gaza, without respect to the wishes or welfare of the population at large, not unlike the Trump Administration.

Hamas has not allowed any elections since 2006; I personally doubt that Trump intends to allow an election he is likely to lose, either.

Gaza is, like the United States, currently ruled by an authoritarian minority. It only remains to be seen if Americans will tolerate it for 9 years before the throat-slitting starts.

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Originally posted by medved:

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
You mean to tell us you believe Israelis are God's favored people?

You think God approves of the slaughter of Palestinians?

If so, you're even sicker than I thought.

Not much difference to what Adolf Hitler thought of the Jews.

He said they were expendable!

NitanHitler and his lapdog, Trump, say the Palestinians cannot go back to their homes.

Kushner had plans for that last year!

Why would anyone let rabid dogs into their homes? That's what HAMAS acts like.....and they where freely elected to represent Palestinians.....

.

The last time the Palestinian people in Gaza got to vote in anything resembling fair elections was in 2006 when Hamas got 44.45% of the vote, not dissimilar to Trump's 49%, and achieved a small legislative majority (74 of 132 seats), not unlike the current slim Republican margins in Congress.

Hamas then claimed these slim margins were a "mandate" to assume unilateral rule over Gaza, without respect to the wishes or welfare of the population at large, not unlike the Trump Administration.

Hamas has not allowed any elections since 2006; I personally doubt that Trump intends to allow an election he is likely to lose, either.

Gaza is, like the United States, currently ruled by an authoritarian minority. It only remains to be seen if Americans will tolerate it for 9 years before the throat-slitting starts.

some should think about it and re read when they wont be able to vote or express how happy they are with the second term ...

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Now back to the OP.

Hamas is so evil that they make rabid dogs look like angels.

Analysis of the returned remains revealed the woman was not the mother of the children. The autopsies of the children revealed they were brutally butchered by hand and then had their remains mutilated to look like killed in a bombing raid.

Anyone who defends these heathens is complicit in their evil.

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Originally posted by Jefffive:

The last time the Palestinian people in Gaza got to vote in anything resembling fair elections was in 2006 when Hamas got 44.45% of the vote, not dissimilar to Trump's 49%, and achieved a small legislative majority (74 of 132 seats), not unlike the current slim Republican margins in Congress.

Hamas then claimed these slim margins were a "mandate" to assume unilateral rule over Gaza, without respect to the wishes or welfare of the population at large, not unlike the Trump Administration.

Hamas has not allowed any elections since 2006; I personally doubt that Trump intends to allow an election he is likely to lose, either.

Gaza is, like the United States, currently ruled by an authoritarian minority. It only remains to be seen if Americans will tolerate it for 9 years before the throat-slitting starts.