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…watch the release of the “remains” of a mother and her two young children later this week by Hamas.

Sickening!!!


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…watch the release of the “remains” of a mother and her two young children later this week by Hamas.

Sickening!!!


What about the hundreds of thousands of Palestinians killed by the New Nazis since 1948??

November 2nd, 1917

Dear Lord Rothschild,

I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet.

"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."

I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.

Yours sincerely,

Arthur James Balfour


PALESTINE!

Always has been!

And until the Palestinians get their own State, it ain’t going to end!

Ethnic cleansing is officially supported and financed by the US!

Crimes against humanity!


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I repeat. If you really want to see what evil looks like…watch on Saturday.


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No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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I repeat. If you really want to see what evil looks like…watch on Saturday.


It is very sad.

But you are purposely turning a blind eye to WHY this is happening!


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Sadly the evil treatment of one human by another is not in short supply in this world.

The author of significant human suffering is about to be given a seat at the top table.
 
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If you don’t talk…how do you implement diplomacy?


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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If you don’t talk…how do you implement diplomacy?


By involving ALL the major parties?? Roll Eyes


Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend…
To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP
 
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There are other kinds of evil...


"If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump
 
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Well I guess so…here you are right here on ARPF.


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No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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implement diplomacy


"Implement" means to carry out, accomplish, or put into action something that has been decided or planned. For example, you might implement a plan, policy, or reform.

di·plo·ma·cy
/dəˈplōməsē/
noun
the profession, activity, or skill of managing international relations, typically by a country's representatives abroad.
Similar:
statesmanship
statecraft
negotiation(s)
discussion(s)
talks
consultation
conference
dialogue
foreign affairs
foreign policy
the art of dealing with people in a sensitive and effective way.
"his genius for tact and diplomacy"

So, this is Lane's "implement diplomacy".

With Putin's sledge hammer.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/poli...ON5?ocid=socialshare

Trump demands Ukraine hand over control of ports and oil in $500bn 'deal'
Story by John Varga, Chris Samuel, Hannah Broughton • 13h • 2 min read


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Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


 
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implement diplomacy


"Implement" means to carry out, accomplish, or put into action something that has been decided or planned. For example, you might implement a plan, policy, or reform.

di·plo·ma·cy
/dəˈplōməsē/
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the profession, activity, or skill of managing international relations, typically by a country's representatives abroad.
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foreign policy
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"his genius for tact and diplomacy"

So, this is Lane's "implement diplomacy".

With Putin's sledge hammer.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/poli...ON5?ocid=socialshare

Trump demands Ukraine hand over control of ports and oil in $500bn 'deal'
Story by John Varga, Chris Samuel, Hannah Broughton • 13h • 2 min read


What Trump is demanding from Ukraine is considerably harsher than the reparations imposed on Germany after WWII.

For not rolling over for Putin.


"If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump
 
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the return of investment is way better than any other if the deal is concluded ...

https://www.state.gov/bureau-o...eration-with-ukraine

do not forget some of the money used came from russian assets as well ....
 
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The UK-US security cooperation and Ukraine’s Peace Formula

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17 Feb 2025

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Kamila Kwapińska
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Europe

Kamila Kwapińska examines the proposed peace plans for Ukraine and argues that Trump’s strategy might disrupt security between UK-US relations.

Donald Trump’s second term as US President has the potential for escalating the war in Ukraine and upsetting the Atlantic alliance. Trump’s peace plan is closer to Putin’s than Zelenskyy’s, while the UK has committed to the Peace Formula of Ukraine’s president. Consequently, Trump’s strategy towards Europe might disrupt security cooperation between the US and the UK, leaving the British government without its key partner in resisting Russia’s aggression.

Putin’s peace plan is fundamentally unacceptable for Ukraine because it amounts to a call for capitulation. First, it entails territorial concessions of the Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson regions. Russia to this day has never fully controlled them. Second, it expects Ukraine to never pursue NATO’s accession or any other military alliance with ‘the West’, and effectively calls for demilitarisation of Ukraine. This would leave Ukraine its most vulnerable to Russia’s aggression since the country gained its independence in 1991. If Ukraine were to agree to Putin’s terms, it would be left with no defence, no deterrence, and no guarantee that Russia will not strike again.

In contrast, Zelenskyy’s ten point Peace Formula includes the restoration of Ukraine’s territorial integrity, full-control of its borders (lost in 2014), and prevention of escalation with effective security guarantees. This is not least because the earlier arrangements, such as the Budapest Memorandum, ultimately proved inadequate and left Ukraine begging for security assistance for years.

Trump believes that he can force the parties to reach a peace settlement. He wants to threaten Ukraine with support withdrawal, and Russia with Ukraine’s support increase. Trump’s peace plan is unclear, but he will halt Ukraine’s NATO accession and expect the concession of some of the territory that Putin requests. This could result in a frozen line of conflict, fortified by the US on Ukraine’s side, or with some neutral demilitarised zones in Eastern Ukraine. In turn, the US would provide Ukraine with security guarantees on a bilateral level. The US support is conditional on Ukraine’s supply of rare earths minerals, critical for production of technologies in defence sectors.

Putin believes in Russia’s might and that the tactic of attrition will bring him victory, so far he has made no concessions while talking to Trump. But the reality is that for nearly three years now he has not been able to gain full control of even the territories in Eastern Ukraine, and that his plan to sanction-proof Russia’s economy has an expiry date. It is predicted that Russia’s economy will crash in the coming years and subsequently, he will not have funds to sustain an expensive war effort. So far, relying on the sheer manpower and the meatgrinder tactic (about 103 Russian casualties per square kilometre gained) has not been enough to break Ukraine’s resilience, reinforced as that is by Ukraine’s deployment of some of the newest defence technologies. In December 2024, Ukraine deployed the first attack solely using robots, and is hoping that the unmanned vehicles will secure victory against Russia’s tactics.

Trump was evidently wrong to claim that he could resolve this war within 24 hours – he is not likely to put end to it within 100 days either. Kremlin spokesman Dimitry Peskov said that a territory swap for Ukraine-controlled parts of Russia in the Kursk region is impossible, and that Russia will take “the experience of the Minsk agreements (…) into account in all further steps.” These peace agreements signed during the war in Donbas were violated by Russia nearly immediately after cease fire and then used as a leverage to gain influence over the occupied land. Ukraine will not easily give up its territories, because every peace truce signed with Russia since 2014 was used to make further incursions, and because Moscow’s rule would mean brutal terror.

What became clear in Trump’s attempts to end the war so far, is that a just and sustainable peace in Europe is not his priority. He has given in to Russia’s demands before the negotiations even started, no European leaders were invited to take part in the peace-talks so far, and NATO is not going to be considered as a peace guarantor. If a truce is signed between Russia and Ukraine, it will only give Putin more time to rebuild its military strength and strike again.

It is likely that Ukraine will become a point of contention between the US and the UK, despite the long tradition of alignment in security and foreign policy making between those nations. And even if, for now, Keir Starmer and Donald Trump have been keeping up the public appearance of warm relations.

The UK’s support for Ukraine is cross-partisan and consistent. When the current Labour government was elected, it accelerated the military aid package promised under Rishi Sunak, and pledged to increase commitments. Labour also pursues a ‘NATO first’ defence strategy, and with political volatility elsewhere there could be an opportunity for the UK to increase its leadership role in the Euro-Atlantic alliance. Moreover, the UK was first to formalise the security guarantees for Ukraine out of the G7 states and officially stated support of Zelenskyy’s peace plan in the UK-Ukraine Declaration of Unity (2023) and the UK-Ukraine 100 Year Partnership Declaration (2025). This is in addition to formalised security assurances and support of NATO accession provided in Strategic Partnership Agreement (2020), and Agreement on Security Cooperation (2024).

The scenario in which peace is set up by the states that treat Ukraine’s sovereignty and European stability as a secondary issue to their own gains in global power struggles is dire. If Trump were to actually withdraw support from Ukraine or cause a split in NATO (and Putin is willing to test it), it is difficult to envisage a scenario where the UK breaks all its guarantees and assurances towards Ukraine and changes its defence strategy entirely to align with the unpredictable US. The future of Ukraine will weigh heavily not only on the prospect of peace in Europe but also on the UK’s relationship with its key security partner.

By Kamila Kwapińska, Research Assistant at the School of Politics and International Relations, University of Kent


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https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


 
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the return of investment is way better than any other if the deal is concluded ...

https://www.state.gov/bureau-o...eration-with-ukraine

do not forget some of the money used came from russian assets as well ....


Return on investment is the way Trump is looking at Gaza too. Oligarch investment.

I would love to see both Ukraine and Gaza issues resolved. And conventional means haven't been working. If Trump can make it happen reasonably, great.

The thing is that propaganda is essential for Trump(ism). IOW, don't believe a thing they say. Believe in fact what they do.

There is no reason to think or believe that Trump's regime won't turn every agency and their official statements/messaging into a propaganda machine.

Aside from your link, here's another:

https://www.defense.gov/Spotli...Support-for-Ukraine/

Spotlight
Support for Ukraine
The United States ensures that every dollar of support to Ukraine serves a clear strategic purpose and advances America's national security interests. While we continue working with allies to strengthen Ukraine's sovereignty, Europe must take the lead in long-term security assistance. Support will be results-driven, accountable and part of a broader strategy for lasting peace.


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“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


 
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This thread is about a mother and two babies tortured and butchered by Hamas.


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No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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What Hamas did was worse, but on a much smaller scale than all the Palestinians killed by Israel. Both are evil, and should stop.

Ledvm, an Israeli is worth no more than a Palestinian--both are human beings. All are children of God. You're operating from the assumption that is not true.

Not the first time you've ignored the doctrine of the faith you profess to believe.
 
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This thread is about a mother and two babies tortured and butchered by Hamas.


They don't want to discuss or acknowledge that......those butchers are less than animals!!!!!
 
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This thread is about a mother and two babies tortured and butchered by Hamas.


Are they more dead than Palestinian mothers and babies who attacked nobody?


"If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump
 
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This thread is about a mother and two babies tortured and butchered by Hamas.


Are they more dead than Palestinian mothers and babies who attacked nobody?


Silly argument......dead ended as well....

When we bombed Berlin..... Many innocents died. When the men start a war they know there will be consequences. Or they're idiots.....
 
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This thread is about a mother and two babies tortured and butchered by Hamas.


Are they more dead than Palestinian mothers and babies who attacked nobody?


Silly argument......dead ended as well....

When we bombed Berlin..... Many innocents died. When the men start a war they know there will be consequences. Or they're idiots.....


Only poor dumb Jim would try to invoke the bombing of Berlin in the global conflagration that was WW2 as being analagous. homer



 
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This thread is about a mother and two babies tortured and butchered by Hamas.


Are they more dead than Palestinian mothers and babies who attacked nobody?


Silly argument......dead ended as well....

When we bombed Berlin..... Many innocents died. When the men start a war they know there will be consequences. Or they're idiots.....


Only poor dumb Jim would try to invoke the bombing of Berlin in the global conflagration that was WW2 as being analagous. homer


Seems analogous to me. If you are an Israeli…your world is at war.


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No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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What Hamas did was worse, but on a much smaller scale than all the Palestinians killed by Israel. Both are evil, and should stop.

Ledvm, an Israeli is worth no more than a Palestinian--both are human beings. All are children of God. You're operating from the assumption that is not true.

Not the first time you've ignored the doctrine of the faith you profess to believe.


You need to revisit the Old Testament.


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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What Hamas did was worse, but on a much smaller scale than all the Palestinians killed by Israel. Both are evil, and should stop.

Ledvm, an Israeli is worth no more than a Palestinian--both are human beings. All are children of God. You're operating from the assumption that is not true.

Not the first time you've ignored the doctrine of the faith you profess to believe.


You need to revisit the Old Testament.


No, you need to revisit the Old Testament in relation to musk banging four different women for 13 different children and trump cheating on his wife.

Remind me again what the Old Testament says about those things you hypocritical POS.

We're all waiting for your pious pronouncements on these issues.

You know, if the bible holds true, you're the one who ought to be worried. Lying, obfuscating, advancing a leader who is a liar and a cheat.

Get worried about your own soul Lane. You're way on the wrong side of things.



 
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What Hamas did was worse, but on a much smaller scale than all the Palestinians killed by Israel. Both are evil, and should stop.

Ledvm, an Israeli is worth no more than a Palestinian--both are human beings. All are children of God. You're operating from the assumption that is not true.

Not the first time you've ignored the doctrine of the faith you profess to believe.


You need to revisit the Old Testament.


Didn't Jesus repeal most of that?

Do you wear garments with mixed materials?

Shouldn't Trump be stoned for adultery?


"If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump
 
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What Hamas did was worse, but on a much smaller scale than all the Palestinians killed by Israel. Both are evil, and should stop.

Ledvm, an Israeli is worth no more than a Palestinian--both are human beings. All are children of God. You're operating from the assumption that is not true.

Not the first time you've ignored the doctrine of the faith you profess to believe.


Pick a side. Simply put, pick a side.

This ongoing insinuation that some think one side is blameless is ridiculous. We're aware of Israel's good and bad as we are the Caliphates.

Sure, I guess we could go Swiss, get neutral and alow Israel to be exterminated "From the River to the Sea"
We sent our Cherokee to Oaklahoma, maybe the Jews can join them. Regardless, we stop supporting Israel that'll happen.

Some of our fellow Americans would like to aid the Palestinians/ Hamas in exterminating the Jews, it seems to me one of the bummers there is that The Palestinians/Hamas as well as the wider region would like to exterminate us Infidels too. Bring back the Death to America!" chants.

Or we take Israel's side. We have a military base there that doesn't get suicide bombed, our embassy isn't taken over and when Americans travel there their passports aren't seized and they aren't imprisoned.

There was no choice, after unlocking the gates and cells at Auschwitz, the survivors weren't moving back to Warsaw or Berlin. Israel was and is the Jews homeland.

Pick a side! Hamas or IDF? Taliban or Mosaad) Golda Meyer or Ayotolla Khomeini?
 
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False dichotomy, Scott. You can deplore the violence by both Israelis and Palestinians without taking sides.

I support a two-state solution.
 
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False dichotomy, Scott. You can deplore the violence by both Israelis and Palestinians without taking sides.

I support a two-state solution.


Like you and Tom, I also deplore the violence. The Palestinians do not
 
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This isn’t black and white.

What Hamas did was evil, there is no justification or excuse for it and no other way to describe it.

A Palestinian life is worth just as much as an Israeli life however. Two wrongs…
 
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What Hamas did was worse, but on a much smaller scale than all the Palestinians killed by Israel. Both are evil, and should stop.

Ledvm, an Israeli is worth no more than a Palestinian--both are human beings. All are children of God. You're operating from the assumption that is not true.

Not the first time you've ignored the doctrine of the faith you profess to believe.


You need to revisit the Old Testament.


Didn't Jesus repeal most of that?

No

Do you wear garments with mixed materials?

Shouldn't Trump be stoned for adultery?

No


Read it and you’ll understand. I can’t do it for you.


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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Originally posted by ledvm:
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What Hamas did was worse, but on a much smaller scale than all the Palestinians killed by Israel. Both are evil, and should stop.

Ledvm, an Israeli is worth no more than a Palestinian--both are human beings. All are children of God. You're operating from the assumption that is not true.

Not the first time you've ignored the doctrine of the faith you profess to believe.


You need to revisit the Old Testament.


Didn't Jesus repeal most of that?

No

Do you wear garments with mixed materials?

Shouldn't Trump be stoned for adultery?

No


Read it and you’ll understand. I can’t do it for you.


You have a funny understanding of genocide!

One child is sadly killed, and you wish to obliterate a whole race!

Conveniently turning a blind eye to the Zionists non stop genocide since 1948!

Hypocrisy doesn’t even come close to describing it!


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Originally posted by ledvm:
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What Hamas did was worse, but on a much smaller scale than all the Palestinians killed by Israel. Both are evil, and should stop.

Ledvm, an Israeli is worth no more than a Palestinian--both are human beings. All are children of God. You're operating from the assumption that is not true.

Not the first time you've ignored the doctrine of the faith you profess to believe.


You need to revisit the Old Testament.


No, you need to revisit the Old Testament in relation to musk banging four different women for 13 different children and trump cheating on his wife.

Remind me again what the Old Testament says about those things you hypocritical POS.

We're all waiting for your pious pronouncements on these issues.

Jesus reminded everyone they were sins and we should not live that way. But He recommended that unless one was perfect…that man should try to forgive and let the sinner and God reconcile.

You know, if the bible holds true, you're the one who ought to be worried. Lying, obfuscating, advancing a leader who is a liar and a cheat.

Get worried about your own soul Lane. You're way on the wrong side of things.

My old Granny had a saying: “If one does a good job of tending to their own business…they rarely had time to spend worrying with others business.” I know that I am an imperfect person, really nothing more than an unworthy sinner. But I ask for forgiveness and know the blood of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, allows for my forgiveness just for the faith and the asking.


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You mean to tell us you believe Israelis are God's favored people?

You think God approves of the slaughter of Palestinians?

If so, you're even sicker than I thought.
 
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This isn’t black and white.

What Hamas did was evil, there is no justification or excuse for it and no other way to describe it.

A Palestinian life is worth just as much as an Israeli life however. Two wrongs…


Maybe at one time there was gray but today it is black and white. The Israelis have tried to relax and begin the healing process — which in itself will take time. The Palestinians ALWAYS pick the scab and reinfect the wound.

If on October 7th had Palestinian men came with rifles and fought other men conventionally to take and hold what they perceived as theirs…I could respect that.

That is NOT what happened. The elected representatives of the Palestinian People chose to commit violent acts so heinous that I for one will never be OK sharing the earth with them. What they did was evil and the DNA with that capability should be eradicated.

God gave us minds to reason. Our minds by now should be able to see that a Two-State Solution within the confines of the Israel borders is NOT possible. The solution is to relocate the potentially salvageable people to a safe region whers they hopefully can integrate with their own kind, heal, and lead healthy prosperous lives.

This line of thinking that these people MUST be able to live on this certain real-estate or nowhere else is nuts. As Einstein said, doing the same experiment over and over andexpecting a different result is insanity. Relocation is the only viable plan.


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No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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You mean to tell us you believe Israelis are God's favored people?

You think God approves of the slaughter of Palestinians?

If so, you're even sicker than I thought.


Once again I invite you to study the history set down in the Old Testament.


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No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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Originally posted by nute:
This isn’t black and white.

What Hamas did was evil, there is no justification or excuse for it and no other way to describe it.

A Palestinian life is worth just as much as an Israeli life however. Two wrongs…


Maybe at one time there was gray but today it is black and white. The Israelis have tried to relax and begin the healing process — which in itself will take time. The Palestinians ALWAYS pick the scab and reinfect the wound.

If on October 7th had Palestinian men came with rifles and fought other men conventionally to take and hold what they perceived as theirs…I could respect that.

That is NOT what happened. The elected representatives of the Palestinian People chose to commit violent acts so heinous that I for one will never be OK sharing the earth with them. What they did was evil and the DNA with that capability should be eradicated.

God gave us minds to reason. Our minds by now should be able to see that a Two-State Solution within the confines of the Israel borders is NOT possible. The solution is to relocate the potentially salvageable people to a safe region whers they hopefully can integrate with their own kind, heal, and lead healthy prosperous lives.

This line of thinking that these people MUST be able to live on this certain real-estate or nowhere else is nuts. As Einstein said, doing the same experiment over and over andexpecting a different result is insanity. Relocation is the only viable plan.


Your nuts Lane....and filled with hatred. Go back and read the New Testament.
 
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Originally posted by ledvm:
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Originally posted by nute:
This isn’t black and white.

What Hamas did was evil, there is no justification or excuse for it and no other way to describe it.

A Palestinian life is worth just as much as an Israeli life however. Two wrongs…


Maybe at one time there was gray but today it is black and white. The Israelis have tried to relax and begin the healing process — which in itself will take time. The Palestinians ALWAYS pick the scab and reinfect the wound.

If on October 7th had Palestinian men came with rifles and fought other men conventionally to take and hold what they perceived as theirs…I could respect that.

That is NOT what happened. The elected representatives of the Palestinian People chose to commit violent acts so heinous that I for one will never be OK sharing the earth with them. What they did was evil and the DNA with that capability should be eradicated.

God gave us minds to reason. Our minds by now should be able to see that a Two-State Solution within the confines of the Israel borders is NOT possible. The solution is to relocate the potentially salvageable people to a safe region whers they hopefully can integrate with their own kind, heal, and lead healthy prosperous lives.

This line of thinking that these people MUST be able to live on this certain real-estate or nowhere else is nuts. As Einstein said, doing the same experiment over and over andexpecting a different result is insanity. Relocation is the only viable plan.


Your nuts Lane....and filled with hatred. Go back and read the New Testament.


Have many times. No hatred here but plenty of logic. coffee


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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This thread is about a mother and two babies tortured and butchered by Hamas.


Are they more dead than Palestinian mothers and babies who attacked nobody?


Silly argument......dead ended as well....

When we bombed Berlin..... Many innocents died. When the men start a war they know there will be consequences. Or they're idiots.....


Only poor dumb Jim would try to invoke the bombing of Berlin in the global conflagration that was WW2 as being analagous. homer


Lil mikey.....war is war.....when you start one, you must know there will be consequences....and you call me dumb Roll Eyes
 
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Lil mikey.....war is war.....when you start one, you must know there will be consequences....and you call me dumb Roll Eyes


Not all the time Jim, take Ukraine for example, Russia invaded them and started the war. Trump flipped the narrative, lying like he always does and now claims that Ukraine started the war. There will be very few consequences for Russia thanks to that POS traitor Trump.
 
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Originally posted by nute:
This isn’t black and white.

What Hamas did was evil, there is no justification or excuse for it and no other way to describe it.

A Palestinian life is worth just as much as an Israeli life however. Two wrongs…


Maybe at one time there was gray but today it is black and white. The Israelis have tried to relax and begin the healing process — which in itself will take time. The Palestinians ALWAYS pick the scab and reinfect the wound.

If on October 7th had Palestinian men came with rifles and fought other men conventionally to take and hold what they perceived as theirs…I could respect that.

That is NOT what happened. The elected representatives of the Palestinian People chose to commit violent acts so heinous that I for one will never be OK sharing the earth with them. What they did was evil and the DNA with that capability should be eradicated.

God gave us minds to reason. Our minds by now should be able to see that a Two-State Solution within the confines of the Israel borders is NOT possible. The solution is to relocate the potentially salvageable people to a safe region whers they hopefully can integrate with their own kind, heal, and lead healthy prosperous lives.

This line of thinking that these people MUST be able to live on this certain real-estate or nowhere else is nuts. As Einstein said, doing the same experiment over and over andexpecting a different result is insanity. Relocation is the only viable plan.


Your nuts Lane....and filled with hatred. Go back and read the New Testament.


Have many times. No hatred here but plenty of logic. coffee


The same logic that determined that Musk is not a rightist? cuckoo coffee
 
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You mean to tell us you believe Israelis are God's favored people?

You think God approves of the slaughter of Palestinians?

If so, you're even sicker than I thought.


Not much difference to what Adolf Hitler thought of the Jews.

He said they were expendable!

NitanHitler and his lapdog, Trump, say the Palestinians cannot go back to their homes.

Kushner had plans for that last year!


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