I've been going to DC for a lot of years. Four times in the last 20 years. Last time, two years ago. Never experienced a crime problem. Visited all the monuments, all the museums, the mall, no problems. It's like every major city, I guess. There are parts you don't want to visit.

All this is trump strongman shit.

I say to all my friends on here, there is a limit to what this motherfucking asshole can do.

I think if you lived there, you’d be singing different tune and that’s a fact

My ex in-laws live and work there.
There are places they go, and places they wont go. The usual tourist spots are well policed and OK according to them.

I think it is just a test. A test to see how far he can go in militarizing cities without getting the MAGAt faithful stirred up. If it works in DC look for it in a major metropolitan area near you soon. So we now have ICE agents all armed up and masked like storm troopers, we have humvees and troops wandering around in DC . . . just like being in Karachi, Islamabad, Pyongyang, etc.

It's a shame our nation's capital has so much crime that this has to happen. Disgusting, actually. DC is #4 for homicide in 2024? Gawd.

Coming from a law enforcement background I would prefer to see crime addressed as directly as possible. We've had many years of de-funding the police. That clearly hasn't worked. If it takes some babysitting by our military forces for a time then do it. Citizens are paying taxes and should have their safety taken seriously.

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I've been going to DC for a lot of years. Four times in the last 20 years. Last time, two years ago. Never experienced a crime problem. Visited all the monuments, all the museums, the mall, no problems. It's like every major city, I guess. There are parts you don't want to visit.

All this is trump strongman shit.

I say to all my friends on here, there is a limit to what this motherf*cking asshole can do.

Mike, last time I was in DC, 2014, I was aggressively panhandled before I could get a taxi from the airport. Perhaps our measurements are different... then again, you hold sjl in hihh regard. She was a CROOK before her first day in Houston

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It's a shame our nation's capital has so much crime that this has to happen. Disgusting, actually. DC is #4 for homicide in 2024? Gawd.

Coming from a law enforcement background I would prefer to see crime addressed as directly as possible. We've had many years of de-funding the police. That clearly hasn't worked. If it takes some babysitting by our military forces for a time then do it. Citizens are paying taxes and should have their safety taken seriously.

So how long is “for a time”? Humvees and masked troops on the streets is OK for 3 months, 6 months, 2 years? What do you think will happened when(if) the troops leave? The cockroaches won’t come back? And why are police and soldiers wearing balaclavas? Looks like the police and military in a third world country. Watching the evening news is like watching coverage from Mexico or El Salvador. Welcome to the Banama Republic of America.

I'd like to be able to aimlessly and brainlesly wander the streets and sights of my nation's Capitol. Sanctuary Cities are an expressway straight to anarchy. If it takes soldiers to make that happen I'm for it. If it takes soldiers to make the cockroaches permanently go away I'm for it.

The Army is not permitted to be used as police.

We fought a War over that once.

DC and the DC Guard are unique. He can mobilize the DC Guard. The DC Guard is permitted to police DC. He can only control the DC Police for 30 days under current federal legislation.

It was the suspension of civil government and placing troops on Massachusetts that was the spark to the powder keg.

At this rate, the S. Ct., is going to have to rule on the 3rd Amendment.

He says we should not trust the numbers considering DC Crime. I heard him myself say that. He is the person who fired a person for not giving him the labor stats he wanted. He is the person who lied to us all about his election defeat. He is the man that seduced hundreds with his lies to violence against our nation. Nothing he says is to be trusted.

Some may understand why I have used the word he.

I just have a hard time fathoming how some Americans can watch something like January 6, ICE agents armed like Navy Seals and wearing masks or armed troops and humvees on the National Mall and not just be appalled that we now look like some Central American, North African or Islamic country. Reminds you of the saying, the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

Let us face it.

All the crimes in American cities are due to the total breakdown of common sense!

The break down of common sense has culminated in a childish bully, convicted of 34 felonious crimes, draft dodging coward, impeached twice, sold his sole and his country to the New Nazis.

And trying his luck at being the NEW ADOLF HITLER or STALIN!

He started the utterly stupid fad of MAGA!

MAKE ARSEHOLE GREAT AGAIN!

Thanks guys for doing your part to make us not evil. A couple more Trump is retarded posts should just about guarantee St Peter let’s you through.

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I just have a hard time fathoming how some Americans can watch something like January 6, ICE agents armed like Navy Seals and wearing masks or armed troops and humvees on the National Mall and not just be appalled that we now look like some Central American, North African or Islamic country. Reminds you of the saying, the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

awww, precious, and yet you said NOTHING with aunt nancy deployed troops and barricades in 2021 -- not a word -- and you didn't say SQUAT when clinton(could be wrong) put up barricades around the white house ...

good job, mike,

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
I've been going to DC for a lot of years. Four times in the last 20 years. Last time, two years ago. Never experienced a crime problem. Visited all the monuments, all the museums, the mall, no problems. It's like every major city, I guess. There are parts you don't want to visit.

All this is trump strongman shit.

I say to all my friends on here, there is a limit to what this motherf*cking asshole can do.

Mike, last time I was in DC, 2014, I was aggressively panhandled before I could get a taxi from the airport. Perhaps our measurements are different... then again, you hold sjl in hihh regard. She was a CROOK before her first day in Houston

Jeff, panhandling is something that happens in every major metropolitan area. The intersection by my office has panhandlers on all points of the compass. Do I like it? No. Is it illegal? No. It's not a military/National Guard problem.

Who is sjl?

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Let us face it.

All the crimes in American cities are due to the total breakdown of common sense!

The break down of common sense has culminated in a childish bully, convicted of 34 felonious crimes, draft dodging coward, impeached twice, sold his sole and his country to the New Nazis.

And trying his luck at being the NEW ADOLF HITLER or STALIN!

He started the utterly stupid fad of MAGA!

MAKE ARSEHOLE GREAT AGAIN!

It has shit to do with common sense. Poverty and all of its related disadvantages are what cause almost all crime.

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I just have a hard time fathoming how some Americans can watch something like January 6, ICE agents armed like Navy Seals and wearing masks or armed troops and humvees on the National Mall and not just be appalled that we now look like some Central American, North African or Islamic country. Reminds you of the saying, the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

I wouldn't say you are wrong, but I was in the SF Bay Area a little over a year ago, I was appalled and it had nothing to do with a heavy handed government law enforcement.

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Who is sjl?

Sheila Jackson Lee, I would assume

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Originally posted by MJines:
I just have a hard time fathoming how some Americans can watch something like January 6, ICE agents armed like Navy Seals and wearing masks or armed troops and humvees on the National Mall and not just be appalled that we now look like some Central American, North African or Islamic country. Reminds you of the saying, the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

I wouldn't say you are wrong, but I was in the SF Bay Area a little over a year ago, I was appalled and it had nothing to do with a heavy handed government law enforcement.

Speaking of the bay area. Remember OWS? Where newsom was the mayor of SF, then lt governor, and when OWS was no longer needed, they called out the national guard to use troops, water cannons, and bull dozens to remove the encampments?

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Originally posted by MJines:
I just have a hard time fathoming how some Americans can watch something like January 6, ICE agents armed like Navy Seals and wearing masks or armed troops and humvees on the National Mall and not just be appalled that we now look like some Central American, North African or Islamic country. Reminds you of the saying, the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

I wouldn't say you are wrong, but I was in the SF Bay Area a little over a year ago, I was appalled and it had nothing to do with a heavy handed government law enforcement.

If you believe in local government, why should SF care what you thought about your visit? You do not live there. You do not pay taxes there. If the visit left you appalled, don’t go back. If your tourism is so important to them, they will address whatever concerns you have. If not, they will keep on doing things like they want and you can vote with your feet. So long as San Franciscans are okay with their city, why should you or some other outsider be allowed to tell them to run it differently. If San Franciscans are unhappy with the way their city is being run, they can vote the bastards out. You would not want folks from SF telling you how to run your community in Alaska, why should they feel any differently?

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Originally posted by MJines:
I just have a hard time fathoming how some Americans can watch something like January 6, ICE agents armed like Navy Seals and wearing masks or armed troops and humvees on the National Mall and not just be appalled that we now look like some Central American, North African or Islamic country. Reminds you of the saying, the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

I wouldn't say you are wrong, but I was in the SF Bay Area a little over a year ago, I was appalled and it had nothing to do with a heavy handed government law enforcement.

If you believe in local government, why should SF care what you thought about your visit? You do not live there. You do not pay taxes there. If the visit left you appalled, don’t go back. If your tourism is so important to them, they will address whatever concerns you have. If not, they will keep on doing things like they want and you can vote with your feet. So long as San Franciscans are okay with their city, why should you or some other outsider be allowed to tell them to run it differently. If San Franciscans are unhappy with the way their city is being run, they can vote the bastards out. You would not want folks from SF telling you how to run your community in Alaska, why should they feel any differently?

Your right and I moved away 30 years ago exactly as you say and for those reasons.

I do think there's a standard of right and wrong no matter my residency. Allowing my fellow Americans to be homeless is wrong. Allowing the liberal use and exchange of deadly drugs is wrong. Allowing violent street crime is wrong.

If San Francisco for example just doesn't provide for basic public safety, public education and public works, maybe someone from somewhere else should step in.

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If San Francisco for example just doesn't provide for basic public safety, public education and public works, maybe someone from somewhere else should step in.

. . . isn’t that for the residents and voters to decide? Or who decides that for them?

I wonder how long it will take to get the gangs [if there are any] out of DC.

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I just have a hard time fathoming how some Americans can watch something like January 6, ICE agents armed like Navy Seals and wearing masks or armed troops and humvees on the National Mall and not just be appalled that we now look like some Central American, North African or Islamic country. Reminds you of the saying, the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

I wouldn't say you are wrong, but I was in the SF Bay Area a little over a year ago, I was appalled and it had nothing to do with a heavy handed government law enforcement.

If you believe in local government, why should SF care what you thought about your visit? You do not live there. You do not pay taxes there. If the visit left you appalled, don’t go back. If your tourism is so important to them, they will address whatever concerns you have. If not, they will keep on doing things like they want and you can vote with your feet. So long as San Franciscans are okay with their city, why should you or some other outsider be allowed to tell them to run it differently. If San Franciscans are unhappy with the way their city is being run, they can vote the bastards out. You would not want folks from SF telling you how to run your community in Alaska, why should they feel any differently?

Your right and I moved away 30 years ago exactly as you say and for those reasons.

I do think there's a standard of right and wrong no matter my residency. Allowing my fellow Americans to be homeless is wrong. Allowing the liberal use and exchange of deadly drugs is wrong. Allowing violent street crime is wrong.

If San Francisco for example just doesn't provide for basic public safety, public education and public works, maybe someone from somewhere else should step in.

Anchorage has a higher violent crime rate than San Francisco. A lot higher. Higher than Washington, DC too....and Chicago, Houston, New Orleans and Atlanta.

And, has an overall crime rate that is significantly higher than the national average. Better send in the Airborne, eh?

https://getsafeandsound.com/bl...-per-capita-by-city/

And how many homeless are there because they want to be, or at least refuse to be responsible enough to take advantage of the safety net that does exist.

Until we return to having involuntary commitment of the incapable, we will continue to have substantial numbers of homeless.

Either we don’t allow the homeless choices, or we tolerate homelessness. There really isn’t much of a middle ground.

Reading this thread I find it interesting that there appears to be no distinction being made between a high rate of homelessness and crime. I have no idea whether statistically the two are directly correlated. There obviously is some link but the news here was reporting that trump saw a lot of homeless on his way to play golf and that is what has sparked this mini crusade.

Nute, you know that there is no way Trump walked to or on the golf course

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Originally posted by MJines:
I just have a hard time fathoming how some Americans can watch something like January 6, ICE agents armed like Navy Seals and wearing masks or armed troops and humvees on the National Mall and not just be appalled that we now look like some Central American, North African or Islamic country. Reminds you of the saying, the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

I wouldn't say you are wrong, but I was in the SF Bay Area a little over a year ago, I was appalled and it had nothing to do with a heavy handed government law enforcement.

If you believe in local government, why should SF care what you thought about your visit? You do not live there. You do not pay taxes there. If the visit left you appalled, don’t go back. If your tourism is so important to them, they will address whatever concerns you have. If not, they will keep on doing things like they want and you can vote with your feet. So long as San Franciscans are okay with their city, why should you or some other outsider be allowed to tell them to run it differently. If San Franciscans are unhappy with the way their city is being run, they can vote the bastards out. You would not want folks from SF telling you how to run your community in Alaska, why should they feel any differently?

Your right and I moved away 30 years ago exactly as you say and for those reasons.

I do think there's a standard of right and wrong no matter my residency. Allowing my fellow Americans to be homeless is wrong. Allowing the liberal use and exchange of deadly drugs is wrong. Allowing violent street crime is wrong.

If San Francisco for example just doesn't provide for basic public safety, public education and public works, maybe someone from somewhere else should step in.

Anchorage has a higher violent crime rate than San Francisco. A lot higher. Higher than Washington, DC too....and Chicago, Houston, New Orleans and Atlanta.

And, has an overall crime rate that is significantly higher than the national average. Better send in the Airborne, eh?

https://getsafeandsound.com/bl...-per-capita-by-city/

No doubt. But that's why I don't live there and am happy there's no road connecting me to there.

Occasionally the Syate trooper SWAT and various federal agencies make big raids here in Dillingham. They are always welcome.

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Originally posted by Scott King:
If San Francisco for example just doesn't provide for basic public safety, public education and public works, maybe someone from somewhere else should step in.

. . . isn’t that for the residents and voters to decide? Or who decides that for them?

I wouldn't know what the line is, but at some point I'm not capable of saying that's someone else's problem.

. . . hopefully no one from Texas, Georgia, California or New York ever takes it upon themselves to decide what is best for Dillingham from a policing, public safety or public service perspective.

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. . . hopefully no one from Texas, Georgia, California or New York ever takes it upon themselves to decide what is best for Dillingham from a policing, public safety or public service perspective.

Maybe they should if we're that negligent.

I think I'm already subject to federal law and enforcement enforcement regardless what the Dillingham municipal code says right? That would qualify as Texas, Georgia California or New York

Its my understanding that some of the federal laws enforced in Texas are also enforced in Dillingham regardless what the resident voters and tax payer think.

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Originally posted by nute:
Reading this thread I find it interesting that there appears to be no distinction being made between a high rate of homelessness and crime. I have no idea whether statistically the two are directly correlated. There obviously is some link but the news here was reporting that trump saw a lot of homeless on his way to play golf and that is what has sparked this mini crusade.

I've thought for a while that my fellow Americans find it much more satisfying to take umbrage at an issue, "Over There!" than the travesty on the street in front of our house. It's much cleaner, much more satisfying to Introduce Democracy in Afghanistan, send the Airborne into Somalia and contribute billions to Ukraine than it is to end homelessness and the War on Drugs.

Jines is right, SF should be SF's problem. D.C. should be D.C.'s problem. But sometimes it's not sufficient and many agree that Eisenhower should have sent the Airborne to Little Rock.

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Nute, you know that there is no way Trump walked to or on the golf course

Nute never even implied that he did. He likely would have waddled, but no doubt looked out the window of whatever he was riding in.

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I just have a hard time fathoming how some Americans can watch something like January 6, ICE agents armed like Navy Seals and wearing masks or armed troops and humvees on the National Mall and not just be appalled that we now look like some Central American, North African or Islamic country. Reminds you of the saying, the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

I wouldn't say you are wrong, but I was in the SF Bay Area a little over a year ago, I was appalled and it had nothing to do with a heavy handed government law enforcement.

If you believe in local government, why should SF care what you thought about your visit? You do not live there. You do not pay taxes there. If the visit left you appalled, don’t go back. If your tourism is so important to them, they will address whatever concerns you have. If not, they will keep on doing things like they want and you can vote with your feet. So long as San Franciscans are okay with their city, why should you or some other outsider be allowed to tell them to run it differently. If San Franciscans are unhappy with the way their city is being run, they can vote the bastards out. You would not want folks from SF telling you how to run your community in Alaska, why should they feel any differently?

Your right and I moved away 30 years ago exactly as you say and for those reasons.

I do think there's a standard of right and wrong no matter my residency. Allowing my fellow Americans to be homeless is wrong. Allowing the liberal use and exchange of deadly drugs is wrong. Allowing violent street crime is wrong.

If San Francisco for example just doesn't provide for basic public safety, public education and public works, maybe someone from somewhere else should step in.

Anchorage has a higher violent crime rate than San Francisco. A lot higher. Higher than Washington, DC too....and Chicago, Houston, New Orleans and Atlanta.

And, has an overall crime rate that is significantly higher than the national average. Better send in the Airborne, eh?

https://getsafeandsound.com/bl...-per-capita-by-city/

No doubt. But that's why I don't live there and am happy there's no road connecting me to there.

Occasionally the Syate trooper SWAT and various federal agencies make big raids here in Dillingham. They are always welcome.

That's great. You got any Humvees parked in Anchorage? US troops patrolling the streets with M-4's and armored vehicles? The POTUS saying he needs to take over your towns because of some make-believe emergency?

The point is that trump is exercising his DC power for no other reason than what he perceives to be political gain with his idiot supporters.

It is bullshit.

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I just have a hard time fathoming how some Americans can watch something like January 6, ICE agents armed like Navy Seals and wearing masks or armed troops and humvees on the National Mall and not just be appalled that we now look like some Central American, North African or Islamic country. Reminds you of the saying, the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

I wouldn't say you are wrong, but I was in the SF Bay Area a little over a year ago, I was appalled and it had nothing to do with a heavy handed government law enforcement.

If you believe in local government, why should SF care what you thought about your visit? You do not live there. You do not pay taxes there. If the visit left you appalled, don’t go back. If your tourism is so important to them, they will address whatever concerns you have. If not, they will keep on doing things like they want and you can vote with your feet. So long as San Franciscans are okay with their city, why should you or some other outsider be allowed to tell them to run it differently. If San Franciscans are unhappy with the way their city is being run, they can vote the bastards out. You would not want folks from SF telling you how to run your community in Alaska, why should they feel any differently?

Your right and I moved away 30 years ago exactly as you say and for those reasons.

I do think there's a standard of right and wrong no matter my residency. Allowing my fellow Americans to be homeless is wrong. Allowing the liberal use and exchange of deadly drugs is wrong. Allowing violent street crime is wrong.

If San Francisco for example just doesn't provide for basic public safety, public education and public works, maybe someone from somewhere else should step in.

Anchorage has a higher violent crime rate than San Francisco. A lot higher. Higher than Washington, DC too....and Chicago, Houston, New Orleans and Atlanta.

And, has an overall crime rate that is significantly higher than the national average. Better send in the Airborne, eh?

https://getsafeandsound.com/bl...-per-capita-by-city/

No doubt. But that's why I don't live there and am happy there's no road connecting me to there.

Occasionally the Syate trooper SWAT and various federal agencies make big raids here in Dillingham. They are always welcome.

That's great. You got any Humvees parked in Anchorage? US troops patrolling the streets with M-4's and armored vehicles? The POTUS saying he needs to take over your towns because of some make-believe emergency?

The point is that trump is exercising his DC power for no other reason than what he perceives to be political gain with his idiot supporters.

It is bullshit.

I read not to long ago about the Sinaloa Cartel operating in Butte Montana. The last big drug raid we had here involved Dillingham'ers that were working for a prison gang that operated out of Anchorage but was headquartered in California.

I'd welcome m4's and armored vehicles.

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I just have a hard time fathoming how some Americans can watch something like January 6, ICE agents armed like Navy Seals and wearing masks or armed troops and humvees on the National Mall and not just be appalled that we now look like some Central American, North African or Islamic country. Reminds you of the saying, the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

I wouldn't say you are wrong, but I was in the SF Bay Area a little over a year ago, I was appalled and it had nothing to do with a heavy handed government law enforcement.

If you believe in local government, why should SF care what you thought about your visit? You do not live there. You do not pay taxes there. If the visit left you appalled, don’t go back. If your tourism is so important to them, they will address whatever concerns you have. If not, they will keep on doing things like they want and you can vote with your feet. So long as San Franciscans are okay with their city, why should you or some other outsider be allowed to tell them to run it differently. If San Franciscans are unhappy with the way their city is being run, they can vote the bastards out. You would not want folks from SF telling you how to run your community in Alaska, why should they feel any differently?

Your right and I moved away 30 years ago exactly as you say and for those reasons.

I do think there's a standard of right and wrong no matter my residency. Allowing my fellow Americans to be homeless is wrong. Allowing the liberal use and exchange of deadly drugs is wrong. Allowing violent street crime is wrong.

If San Francisco for example just doesn't provide for basic public safety, public education and public works, maybe someone from somewhere else should step in.

Anchorage has a higher violent crime rate than San Francisco. A lot higher. Higher than Washington, DC too....and Chicago, Houston, New Orleans and Atlanta.

And, has an overall crime rate that is significantly higher than the national average. Better send in the Airborne, eh?

https://getsafeandsound.com/bl...-per-capita-by-city/

No doubt. But that's why I don't live there and am happy there's no road connecting me to there.

Occasionally the Syate trooper SWAT and various federal agencies make big raids here in Dillingham. They are always welcome.

That's great. You got any Humvees parked in Anchorage? US troops patrolling the streets with M-4's and armored vehicles? The POTUS saying he needs to take over your towns because of some make-believe emergency?

The point is that trump is exercising his DC power for no other reason than what he perceives to be political gain with his idiot supporters.

It is bullshit.

I read not to long ago about the Sinaloa Cartel operating in Butte Montana. The last big drug raid we had here involved Dillingham'ers that were working for a prison gang that operated out of Anchorage but was headquartered in California.

I'd welcome m4's and armored vehicles.

Man, that is awesome. Military troops is a great idea then, I guess.

Tell me what you think they are going to do. Thwart drug use in your town? How so? National guard troops are going to prevent drug use in your town? They're going to make the people in your town not want drugs? Or they are going to magically arrest the people in your town that sell drugs. Truly, tell me what the national guard trops are going to do. No offense, but you're stupid if you think they will have any effect.

How so? Be specific.

It's a dumb idea. If you subscribe to it, you're dumb. No offense but looking at the history of things, no other conclusion makes any sense. It won't work. Drugs have been against the law forever. Hasn't made any difference in the population's appetite for drugs. What does that tell you?

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I think it is just a test. A test to see how far he can go in militarizing cities without getting the MAGAt faithful stirred up. If it works in DC look for it in a major metropolitan area near you soon. So we now have ICE agents all armed up and masked like storm troopers, we have humvees and troops wandering around in DC . . . just like being in Karachi, Islamabad, Pyongyang, etc.

What a hoot. Crime is less in the cities to which you referred.

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I think it is just a test. A test to see how far he can go in militarizing cities without getting the MAGAt faithful stirred up. If it works in DC look for it in a major metropolitan area near you soon. So we now have ICE agents all armed up and masked like storm troopers, we have humvees and troops wandering around in DC . . . just like being in Karachi, Islamabad, Pyongyang, etc.

What a hoot. Crime is less in the cities to which you referred.

You mean the cities that exist under dictatorships? You're comparing us unfavorably to North Korea? Where they cut your head off for selling weed? I mean, I am sure you are in favor of that but damn....

Idiotic.

Of course it is, you would expect that in an authoritarian regime. Freedom actually carries some baggage. I guess I should not be surprised that MAGAts aspire to replicate living in an authoritarian country.

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Of course it is, you would expect that in an authoritarian regime. Freedom actually carries some baggage. I guess I should not be surprised that MAGAts aspire to replicate living in an authoritarian country.

replicate or already living at the fast path you are going the road is well paved ...

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Man, that is awesome. Military troops is a great idea then, I guess.

Tell me what you think they are going to do. Thwart drug use in your town? How so? National guard troops are going to prevent drug use in your town? They're going to make the people in your town not want drugs? Or they are going to magically arrest the people in your town that sell drugs. Truly, tell me what the national guard trops are going to do. No offense, but you're stupid if you think they will have any effect.

How so? Be specific.

It's a dumb idea. If you subscribe to it, you're dumb. No offense but looking at the history of things, no other conclusion makes any sense. It won't work. Drugs have been against the law forever. Hasn't made any difference in the population's appetite for drugs. What does that tell you?

I read recently the governor of New Mexico declared a State of Emergency in a portion of her state due to drugs and crime. Was that an appropriate time to have military troops deployed ?

I believe that in many cases today available law enforcement is inadequate. The BLM riots, ANTIFA foolishness and January 6th are easy examples. I believe in Alaska and several other places illegal drugs are to readily available. It looks to me like criminals not only have no fear of their neighbors and family but also feel no fear of law enforcement.

Personally, I believe criminals should fear being seen or caught by anyone; pedestrians, teachers, housewives, school principals, law enforcement and me. National Guard too.

Mike, do you feel safer today than you did when 14 or 25 years old? Do you think your children are safer during their childhood under your roof than you were under your parents roof? I doubt you do. That doesn't have to be.

My grandfathers in my lifetime owned less than 6 firearms between them. A single rifle, maybe two or three shotguns and a single revolver. Both were outdoor sportsmen. I believe both considered themselves and their families perfectly safe. My father and uncles in my lifetime owned less than two dozen firearms. One uncle owned none, one owned about a dozen and a half, my father owned less than a dozen. All three were outdoorsmen and heads of household and I believe they considered themselves and their families perfectly safe.

I own more than two dozen but am actively trying to reduce the herd. How many do you own Mike? Do you feel safe? Neither of my grandfather's kept firearms by the bedside while they slept. Do you? I have one in the bedroom, one in the middle of the house and one near the door. I've never in my life even wondered if my home was in danger. What about you Mike?

Drugs and the criminals pedaling drugs are to liberal, to available. Current law enforcement has demonstrated itself to be in capable. I appreciate Trump labeling the Cartels as terrorist organizations and i hope they receive a few dozen drone strikes. Itd be great if Delta Force was on the ground with them. I'd like to see the Montana National Guard stamp out the Sinaloa Cartel in Butte. I'd like to see the Alaska National Guard erase the drug traffic in Alaska.

Specific enough?

Calling me stupid twice and saying no offense twice doesn't really work. Stupid is offensive. Believing me to be so is fine, I don't mind, but if you don't want to be offensive you can keep it to yourself.